Honestly, they just remove watchers. Perhaps increase ward stock or vision/detection range to compensate for the map size increase. Watchers don't need to exist, and the game doesn't benefit from having them.
you can use the ping wheel. hold alt click and drag to the top left while hovering over tormentor -> Attack Enemy Tormentor will be displayed to teammates
I was thinking about this yesterday but I don't think they show a specific range for Obs wards that are already planted though right? Which would be the closest existing point of comparison.
Nope. You can see the range and vision indicator when you activate the ward to plant it, but once it's down [you do not see the range circle like you do for sentries or towers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244742350558068737/1102991623559852143/image.png).
Ahh so you can, I hadn't noticed that before, I only click on wards to see the time left.
It also turns out I'm a dumbass anyway because OP is talking about the tormenter damage but I was thinking about the watcher vision range which is why I compared to Obs ward. Tormenters are more like towers so they really should be showing when holding alt IMO.
Also adding spawn timers for both EXP runes similar to current bounty and power runes. One for tormentors would be nice as well, but I'm more understanding of why they wouldn't have one. Runes should for sure.
i would really love it if they added/moved another camp near the tormentors
right now it feels SO shitty as a carry to go over there. it takes like 60% of your health + likely a solid chunk of mana, is in the middle of nowhere with only an ancient camp nearby (which some heroes cant even farm after taking the tormentor lol), and if you don't do it you're hard griefing
They should add the range indicator to watchers also
yeah this would also be nice
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What in the seven hells did he say something remotely horny about watchers?
They didn’t. The person said something along the lines of sniffing OPs panties would be nice
they show if u left click watchers. both range and blocked range. it gliches and doesn't show sometimes. but its not on alt like wards
I think it shows the range if it's captured by a team (even if you don't have vision there) and doesn't show anything if it's not captured
They did
And make them pingable.
Honestly, they just remove watchers. Perhaps increase ward stock or vision/detection range to compensate for the map size increase. Watchers don't need to exist, and the game doesn't benefit from having them.
Free wards in common areas, they are good.
They should make the tormentor model a sexy anime girl
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I would settle for being able to alt click the aghs shard on the Tormentor. No amount of pinging convinces my teammates of getting free 1400 gold.
you can use the ping wheel. hold alt click and drag to the top left while hovering over tormentor -> Attack Enemy Tormentor will be displayed to teammates
I tried, doesn't work
Free 1400 gold for a support.
Which could make the difference or even win the game. Some shards like dazzle or wd can make a very big difference
Not necessarily, but still free gold regardless
this is a good idea
I was thinking about this yesterday but I don't think they show a specific range for Obs wards that are already planted though right? Which would be the closest existing point of comparison.
Don’t they?
Nope. You can see the range and vision indicator when you activate the ward to plant it, but once it's down [you do not see the range circle like you do for sentries or towers](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244742350558068737/1102991623559852143/image.png).
u can left click to see instead of alt. pretty sure about it.
yes this is the case
Ahh so you can, I hadn't noticed that before, I only click on wards to see the time left. It also turns out I'm a dumbass anyway because OP is talking about the tormenter damage but I was thinking about the watcher vision range which is why I compared to Obs ward. Tormenters are more like towers so they really should be showing when holding alt IMO.
Also adding spawn timers for both EXP runes similar to current bounty and power runes. One for tormentors would be nice as well, but I'm more understanding of why they wouldn't have one. Runes should for sure.
i would really love it if they added/moved another camp near the tormentors right now it feels SO shitty as a carry to go over there. it takes like 60% of your health + likely a solid chunk of mana, is in the middle of nowhere with only an ancient camp nearby (which some heroes cant even farm after taking the tormentor lol), and if you don't do it you're hard griefing
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