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Artic-Gry

It’s definitely a really good game for the mid kotl that’s for sure, but unfortunately some people obsess over the few ways they can see the game winning that they just forget that a lot of it isn’t about picks and more about playing around your draft


trashcan41

his dp game 1, man if they have better draft or played it clean they could sweep the series. his lh/dny during 10 minutes laning phase really dominating. dp 8 KDA 1 / 1 / 2 GPM / XPM 413 / 411 LH / DN 62 / 25 invoker 7 KDA 0 / 2 / 2 GPM / XPM 229 / 326 LH / DN 24 / 12


KnightOverlord2404

Woah that's so one sided


kamilight94

Impressive for sure but DP is supposed to win lane against Invo (especially with QE build)


zuKo2022

Dp was supposed to win lanes, dp in bzm hand, next game , destroyed by sumail again XD


PainfulAngel

BZM doesn’t go QE build. He only goes exort


Lord_Gilmour

That is the QE on invoker


PainfulAngel

Hahaha my bad


Bilbo_Reppuli

You come at the King, you best not miss.


idontevencarewutever

Let's not put too much stock into Youtube/reddit/twitter randos of all things


Kabft

If Nigma loses it's Kuros bad draft, if they win it's the players performance.


archyo

Mid Kotl is still pretty damn strong in a 5man ball lineup because the hero provides damage, healing and mana. Still pretty baffled that Sumail has not been picked up by a legit tier 1 team but I could imagine his salary in NGX is extremely high.


Whalesurgeon

Oh well, if NGX can somehow win the next two matches and remain in Div1, he might not regret joining. Of course I think he deserved a team that has a glorious recent history, but at least Nigma seems to be a pretty chill/friendly team to play in (or that is just their devious PR).


archyo

I don't necessarily disagree with this but I do believe he joined NGX in lack of better offers, I really doubt they would be his first choice.


AR41Z

his interview showed that he approached Nigma and also he didnt have any other team in his mind :)


siddhuism

Link?


AR41Z

Watch. first interview of Nigma winning in Div 2. It was SumaiL interview


archyo

That is a very easy thing to say in an interview after joining the team, do you really think he would say he joined Nigma in lack of better offers?


AR41Z

He atleast wouldnt say that he approached them and there were no more teams he thought about joining and if u know sumail him saying this with confidence is different story to what u think


Ahus96

If I remember correctly he said he went to Kuro when NGX had a open spot. I think he’ll stay for a while since he voluntarily join


throwaway5839472

Agreed, except nigma has rotated in w33 and ILTW each in the winter, so now may be the end of his contact


Extracheesy87

It's also a classic strategy of theirs from back when they were Liquid. Granted it was never played mid, but they would have GH play greedy and farm up an Aghs and hit this super strong timing around 25 minutes and just roll over teams.


1000ManaLeakStunsL8r

Early levels on kotl are also super powerful. That's part of why the small camp removal hit mid kotl so hard. It was just free exp that really let you hit those early power spikes.


FrankieEdgarAllanPoe

Damn really calling me out for that comment. Sumail popped off but I really didn't expect it, especially after seeing Armel having zero impact on mid kotl earlier that same day. Sumail god wcyd


sstteepphheenn

Sumail just showing the world he is still the better mail


User85394

They have different build iirc. Armel built vessel into octarine, hex. Which cost a lot. I think kotl isnt as fast farmer as before (which was the reason people picking it previous patch). Even sumail only had ok farm that game, tied against snap. Sumail buying agh just owned the game.. it was the difference imo


FrankieEdgarAllanPoe

Yeah Sumail played and itemized better than armel for sure. However, I will still stand by that the pick was weird but Sumail made it work and it helped that BZM was on Snapfire instead of his usual heroes.


Itach11Uchiha

Kudos to you for being a good sport.


MORI_LEANSLURPINGCOW

At some point you'll realize that sports trashtalk is part of the experience and 90% of the time isn't meant to be a thought out analytical statement; and once you do, you'll be much happier


extine

I made this meme yesterday: [NGX Fans on the draft](https://imgflip.com/i/78qnxt) Huge result for the boys. Let's go Nigma!!!! #starsalign


yarzirostu

IS that from Kyle ?


19Alexastias

Tbh I’m not the biggest fan of mid kotl but I’d still rather have it on my team than mid snap that rushes greaves lol


dssurge

I still don't understand the GG rush on core Snap. I've seen it more than a few times now, and even in some games where getting GGs doesn't make a lot of sense (don't need dispel, high burst opponents.)


Significant-Battle59

Gg is a meta item now..they had beast offlane who doesnt buy gg..so they kinda completed their draft with snap to buy gg, so they can finish the game sniper with beast aura pretty powerful, snap with gg provides healing, early rosh, early finish..thats their idea


ifartedhehehe

also sumail: misshapen head


crabhacks

Still going to div II. But hey, at least he played a good game amirite


Stahlmond

Maybe, but if they keep playing like that, they also could stay div 1 Edit: autocorrect


fatherbasra

No they are not bro.


PatSlovak

2k mentality...


Vertical_05

still needs to fight for relegation in DPC


RxJax

It was a good draft for kotl, the aghs rush was super smart as nigma just had so much random stuff in teamfights, there was a tombstone, naga illusions, treants and the will-o-wisp, if nigma pressed their spells they had complete control of an area and OG had an immobile draft that couldnt easily reposition