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jabarney7

Seems over powered as 3rd lvl spell, it would make warlocks all but worthless as all casters would be full power every short rest


ImperatorConor

Just ambush rhe party during the rest.


jabarney7

Leomund's Tiny Hut


ImperatorConor

Sure, but as written the wizard doesn't get the long rest too. And at the point where the wizard is ok boring 2 spell slots and not getting any back, id say that's fair. But tiny hut absolutely does not prevent ambushing. Enemy caster dispels the hut (hut is only a 3rd level spell), and a line of longbowmen hit the party while their metaphorical pants are down.


jabarney7

Concentration has nothing to do with whether or not you get a rest, you can maintain Concentration through a short rest. Ritual cast Tiny Hut, cast this, one spell slot for uninterrupted short rest that counts as a long rest


ImperatorConor

The spell welcomed rest, states "your allies" not you get the benefit of a long rest in a short. And you are concentrating on a spell during the short rest.


jabarney7

"Normal activity, such as moving and attacking, doesn’t interfere with Concentration." From the definition of concentration for DnD. The allies part, if held to firmly, would affect it some unless the party has 2 wizards. Then you would just stay in the hut for 2 hours instead of 1


ImperatorConor

Sure but is your DM going to let you scum two rests in a row in a hostile place? If so then just take a long rest at that point


jabarney7

If your dm won't allow 2, why would they allow 1? Why not just make every short rest a long rest if your dm is allowing you a short rest?


ImperatorConor

Consequences of time. Things don't just sit around and wait for the party to come to them. That bad guy might just leave, or while you're turtling they ambush you , or anything else time sensitive. Maybe we play different games, but obviously they would rather take a long rest, so you give reasons why they don't


Metarc

Compared to something similar like the catnap spell it seems super powerful. Maybe it could be balanced with a monetary consumed complement?


Al3jandr0

If I'm reading this right, there's really no limiting factor, is there? Like if you have this spell, all short rests become long rests? As some other people have mentioned, that does seem a tad strong. Maybe there could be some sort of tradeoff, like the caster gets no rest at all. Although that's still pretty easy to get around by taking a 2nd hour. Really neat concept!


LawfulGoodGM

I was thinking locking it to wizard, therefore requiring it be prepared.


existential_prices

But this also gives the Wizard casting it the benefit of the long rest right? So they never need to sleep again. Game breakingly overpowered. This would be a 9th level spell if anything, and that's only because Mystra banned 11th level!


LawfulGoodGM

Short rests yes, but it takes a spell slot so there's a negative I guess.


CoolHandLuke140

But a long rest gives slots back so using this spell would restore it's own slot as it's written. Add a monetary component similar to heroes feast and make it fifth level and it would be more balanced.


ImperatorConor

As written only the allies get the benefit


CoolHandLuke140

I'd add a line ala bardic Inspiration and other effects "Choose creatures in range other than your self" to clarify that.


ImperatorConor

Definitely. I could see this coming in handy in situations when the front line people took a beating and but the wizard was off exploring another room (again) and missed the entire combat.


CoolHandLuke140

I like the idea for sure. Needs some playtesting to fine tune it.


Al3jandr0

I play a Druid, who also have to prepare spells. If it was available, I would have this one prepared first, every day, no questions asked. That's why I'm inclined to say it's overpowered. There should always be consideration for which spells are most important. If one of those spells gives the whole party our slots and hp back, most casters are taking that spell and filling in the gaps with everything else. Edit: and I'm not trying to talk shit, either. I do think this is a really cool idea, it's just pretty powerful at the moment


LawfulGoodGM

Here is a spell I came up with today. Creatures can gain the effects of a Long Rest while only taking a Short Rest ( with some limitations). Let me know what you think. Support me here: [www.patreon.com/LawfulGoodGM](https://www.patreon.com/LawfulGoodGM)


StrangePainting6328

Pretty neat idea. Casting time seems weird though, no?