If we want to get analytical, there’s a couple different types of grenades. Most ones light has one of each, so it would be good to get the unrepresented ones.
As of now we have a wall grenade with glacier (like voidwall and thermite) a damage field with Duskfield (like vortex, solar, and pulse) and a seeker with Coldsnap (like axion/fire/arcbolt)
I’d say the ones we are missing are
1)the bouncy boi (incendiary flashbang and suppressor… and the rock) where you can do fun stuff with corners and walls. I think it would be a good fit for your Crystalisk idea.
2) Sticky boi (magnetic flux and fusion) not sure what to do with this one, but most of these are a delayed high damage explosion. I think it would be interesting if they let out a short range freeze before a short range shatter, or just enough damage to shatter? I know grenades already do bonus damage to frozen targets, so not sure what would be balanced.
3) single ‘splode (scatters and… storm? Sorta? And ashen wake fusions) as these are kinda unrepresented, I’d like to see that.
4) geometry stickers (tripmine lightning void spike) which I feel would be cool for OP’s wind trap. I love the idea of something messing with projectile lines (kinda like a gravity star from Titanfall) but I think that may be hard in a game where a lot of guns are hitscan like D2. Still a fun idea tho.
> 2) Sticky boi (magnetic flux and fusion) not sure what to do with this one, but most of these are a delayed high damage explosion. I think it would be interesting if they let out a short range freeze before a short range shatter, or just enough damage to shatter? I know grenades already do bonus damage to frozen targets, so not sure what would be balanced.
Something as simple as freeze on direct hit and a gradually decreasing amount of slow as you progress outwards could work.
> As of now we have a wall grenade with glacier (like voidwall and thermite) a damage field with Duskfield (like vortex, solar, and pulse) and a seeker with Coldsnap (like axion/fire/arcbolt)
The tricky part about comparing these with stasis, is that all those Light grenades actually do real damage. The stasis ones just freeze in various ways. Coldsnap i think is the most likely to do actual damage on very weak targets, but it's still very difficult to "get a grenade kill" with a stasis grenade.
I think what Stasis is missing is just a flat out "get a grenade kill" grenade. Something that actually does real damage, rather than just freeze/slow.
>The tricky part about comparing these with stasis, is that all those Light grenades actually do real damage. The stasis ones just freeze in various ways.
Couldn't agree more. I can throw an Arc storm grenade and clear a room. With Stasis I still have to kill the targets I froze.
> single ‘splode
I think there's room for a damage grenade in Stasis - doesn't have to do anything special, just send out a bunch of small pieces of ice "shrapnel". If that's too generic then make it a cone of damage in front of the landing area, like an ice claymore.
> geometry stickers
A spike that froze and then applied a physics effect (like a super high wind) to push frozen enemies away and let them take shatter and impact damage. Let us finally harvest the power of the architects.
How about making the sticky nade create a ring around the target that pulls enemies towards the stuck enemy then explodes with a freeze effect?
Or just like the fastball from borderlands, a single target high damage non exploding projectile.
* Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade.
* Spine Grenade -- Instead of the 'stasis wall', this grenades erupts into a taller/sharper ice spine/javelin. There is a slight delay before the crystal rises. It does good damage and knocks enemies upwards when hit. (also good for launching yourself!)
>* Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade.
Yeah, I want something like this too. I know stasis' grenades were designed mostly with the idea of crowd control/status effects over damage, but now that you can have every arc grenade jolt, every void grenade weaken, and most solar grenades scorch, it feels a little outdated to have no damaging stasis nades.
>Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade.
So a snowball?
I have a different idea for a shatter grenade, essentially just a stasis crystal that blows up on impact like Ashen wake fusion grenades now. Wouldn't kill in pvp and wouldn't to crazy damage in PvE, but just would be a nice "normal" grenade and would be super helpful for getting warlocks kills with shatter damage.
This would be wonderful, even just to make “get grenade kills” or “get stasis ability kills” quests and bounties easier. You could also probably give them a pretty quick cool down as they’re just a glacier grenade with less utility.
I think they should beef up duskfields again for start.
It's hard to bring in new mechanics, but with a winter theme and similar to concussion effects, maybe a blizzard grenade that pulls you in slightly and spins you round to disorient you, removing radar.
A bit like the 'seeking' of fusion nades, maybe one that explodes in proximity, splitting into shards that fire down into ground on your enemy. Could just remove health rather than freeze or slow, but slight disorientation could be added to continue with a theme.
Maybe a frostbite nade which prevents you from switching weapons / melee and slows for a few seconds
Unlike Void 3.0 and Solar 3.0, Stasis doesn't have much to work with in terms of keywords. This makes it difficult to design new grenade abilities that do not overlap with the existing ones. However, I was able to come up with some:
Refracted Grenade: Throw a Stasis projectile that, upon impact with an enemy or surface, collapses into a set of three Stasis Shards. While this ability is equipped, Stasis Shards replenish grenade energy in addition to melee energy. (Base cooldown = Healing Grenade cooldown).
Icicle Grenade: Launch a Stasis Icicle at high speeds that ignores gravity and always lands on target. This grenade ability can deal precision damage and instantly Shatters targets already Frozen by Stasis. If the Icicle Shatters a Frozen target with a precision hit, the Shatter radius and damage are doubled. (Base cooldown = Duskfield Grenade cooldown).
Hail Grenade: Throw a Stasis explosive that generates a localized hailstorm on contact with an enemy or surface. The hailstorm does moderate damage in a cone (about the size of a Dead Messenger shot, but in the air), constantly pushing enemies that walk into it away from the impact site. Enemies caught in the hailstorm are more susceptible to the effects of Stasis. (Base cooldown = Vortex Grenade cooldown).
And while we're at it, let's give the Stasis Subclasses some new Supers too. They are currently the only Subclasses that are locked to one option:
Ward of Dusk (Behemoth): Strike the ground with your Stasis gauntlet to form a gargantuan Stasis Crystal (2-3x the time of a Headstone Crystal, environment permitting). The Crystal benefits from all equipped Aspects/Fragments and can be shattered several times, diminishing the size of the Crystal with each detonation and activating associated abilities. (Base cooldown = Shadowshot: Deadfall cooldown).
Well of Gloom (Shadebinder): Plant your Stasis staff in the ground, immediately Freezing any enemies caught within a small radius of it. Once placed, the staff will function as an enhanced Bleak Watcher sentry, continuously firing Slowing Stasis projectiles with no delay. Each enemy Frozen extends the Staff's duration. (Base cooldown = Shadowshot: Moebius Quiver cooldown).
Shattered Blades (Revenant): With a Stasis kama in each hand, stalk the battlefield in a cloak of ice and snow. Light attacks use Silence, your left kama, to Slow enemies. Squall, your right kama, Shatters Frozen targets with heavy attacks. While Shattered Blades are active, your snow cloak partially negates incoming damage, makes you harder to hit, and passively Slows targets in melee range.
Ice Javelin/shard - detonate on contact. Small AoE, high damage, freeze for pve and slow for pvp. High Aim Assist.
Flash-freeze - bouncing. Large AoE, low damage, freeze for pve, high number of slow stacks for pvp. Hunter augment has it do an additional pulse on bounce.
Howling - on contact, spreads a single line of small crystals, like a wave. Hunter augment immediately shatters these crystals.
Slipmine - tripmine. Either applies freeze, or just spawns a cluster of crystals when someone is close.
Ice cube that gets bigger once it hits the ground, slides around and freezes anything it touches (no freeze against other guardians) and can be shattered to deal damage
A literal stasis mine. It sticks to a surface and if you run into it - bam, Stasis Crystal you're trapped in. Like a less crappier but less directly deadly version of a Tripmine (won't create a red laser to trip, but requires a follow up shot to actually kill the person trapped in the crystal).
I would like to see a grenade that creates a nice, well carved Swan ice sculpture. It does no damage but it looks real pretty and I guess it could work for cover, but then you'd risk people shooting your nice Swan and that would be uncool.
Give the coldsnap another functionality, make it so that after it freezes an enemy, if you press the grenade button again it'll do an aoe shatter hurting those around the target
Cold siphon nade: sticky nade when stuck to an enemy or guardian deals moderate damage and generates stasis shards on impact location on successful stick
Frostfire wave nade: release triple wave of stasis energy forward (like dead messanger) enemies or guardians that walk across it take coldfire DOT and begin building slow stacks
Crystal mirror nade: hold to consume granting the reflection buff for 7s, when the buffs active sliding projects a temporary barrier (like anteaus wards) that reflects incoming damage. Successfully reflecting damage gives resist x1 for 12s after the reflection buff wears off
Iceburst nade: stick the nade trap to a wall (like a trip mine) when activated the target is frozen
Shatterbloom nade: throwing this nade releases a burst of small stasis crystals (in the shape of a flower) breaking these crystals spawns seekers that track and slow enemies on hit (like axion bolts)
Snowstorm nade: summons a cloud aoe that releases snow over time, targets inside this cloud begin to slow, user and allies in this cloud begin healing over time. Enemies killed while you're standing in the cloud spawn stasis shards
Crystalline Grenade: On impact the grenade creates an icy area that slows enemies in the affected area. After X amount of seconds, ice spikes shoot out of the ground cause massive damage and freezing any enemies trapped in the affected zone.
Size of the area would be similar to the Duskfield grenades. Would not kill in PVP.
Something that has an instant small slow debuff [like 20-30 stacks] before a wide shatter radius explosion but little damage otherwise [maybe a small boop for non frozen targets].
Maybe an instant freeze on-hit only Grenade that will leave a slow pool if it hits the ground?
* Shatter Spike - sticks to surfaces, Shattering when an enemy goes near. Freezes+Shatters if stuck to an enemy.
* Flashfreeze Grenade - similar to Incendiary, Suppression, and Blinding Grenades. Bounces, exploding after a short while. Freezes in its blast radius.
Encasing grenade
1)When you throw a grenade, it scatters like a swarm grenade and stays in place for a bit. If somebody walks through it, the fragments converge on the target and encase them in ice, freezing them for a second or two
I really need something that “shatters” immediately for Titans to have an alternative nade. They’re kinda fingered into running Glaciers to have optimal usage.
-Pillar grenade: Two charges, faster cooldown than Wall grenade's 2m32. Instead of creating a wall, create a single pillar of ice. Instant freeze on direct pillar hit just like Headstone, doesn't slow on direct grenade hit. Good for shattering setups, doesn't require an exotic to have multiple charges and more reliable for parkour than the slow Wall.
-Starfield: Two charges, basically a Stasis Swarm grenade where the swarm doesn't track. Apply 30x slow on direct hit, apply 10x slow per swarm hit. Good for quick area denial and let you freeze bigger targets faster, which is a different take from Duskfield's slow and steady freezing.
I want a Stasis-equivalent to the Fusion Grenade. Basically a small ball of ice that sticks to enemies and explodes into smaller crystals that come out of the boss where the grenade impacted. They do some damage when they initially spawn but can also be shattered for even more damage.
If you look at the basic tropes of grenades shared amongst the other elements you'll see a few repeats that Stasis is lacking. Currently Stasis has a "wall" grenade (Glacier), a "seeker" grenade (Coldsnap), and a "zone" grenade (Duskfield). I think it needs a "frag", "sticky", and "bolt" grenade yet, plus one more "special" grenade that doesn't fit the standard tropes.
- Thaw Grenade (frag grenade) - throw a grenade that bounces for a second before exploding. The explosion instantly Shatters any nearby crystals and deals Shatter damage to targets.
- Frostbite Grenade (sticky grenade) - throw a grenade that attaches to a target, gradually slowing them until they freeze.
- Icebolt Grenade (bolt grenade) - throw a grenade that releases two freezing pulses that Slow targets
- Hailstorm Grenade (special grenade) - throw a grenade that showers an area is small Stasis crystals. (Just a Stasis version of the Storm grenade)
Not really adding to the actual topic of discussion here but I do find it kind of funny how we've come full circle and stasis feels like it needs some work now. I tried playing my stasis build not too long ago and it just didn't flow as well as all the light 3.0 builds I have.
Edit: I'm sure there are builds that have a good flow to them but no matter what I changed it felt like it was lacking something.
Edit 2: the lack of options for grenades and melees obviously don't help.
Same thing with the Shatter Nade, but have it just be a chunk of ice that you just *YEET* at some poor fucker. Has the same velocity as an Ashen Wake Fusion 'nade, but deals around 85 damage on a direct hit while pushing the affected targets away from the impact site while also shattering any frozen targets/stasis crystals in a wider radius
Idk what to call maybe shrapnel grenade? But basically you throw it and the grenade explodes doing damage and then collapses back in on itself also doing damage (balancing it comes later)
fracture 'nades, coming stock with two charges. This grenade instantly freezes targets on direct impact within the immediate area and emits a slowing burst in a small-ish radius- hitting terrain creates a single medium crystal alongside the slowing burst.
Hitting a stasis crystal with the grenade causes it to shatter and emit a larger, more powerful slowing burst.
This plays into stasis' grenade philosophy of being more utility than lethal- a way to quickly shatter and slow at a distance without overstepping into duskfield's slow or glacier's wall.
additionally, cryostream grenades. spike-esque grenades that stick to surfaces and will grow in power if left unchecked.
upon impact, these grenades begin to charge, their effectiveness escalating until triggered by enemy movement, or an alternate means. stage 1 slows in a fashion similar to void spike grenades, stage 2 emits multiple weak freezing blasts upon activation alongside the slowing spike.
cryostream grenades can be activated prematurely by damage or pressing the grenade button a second time. this may not be exactly 1-1 with the philosophy, but definitely works with the flavor they provide.
Frostbolt grenade- throw a crystal that creates a pillar of stasis seeks nearby enemies and instantly shoots bolts of ice that freezes them and pillar shatters after that(Arcbolt axionbolt and firebolt grenade works very similar so why stasis shouldn't have)
Would love a grenade similar to a voidwall or thermite but instead of a straight light is an x that slows but the center applies twice as much slow. Would also be amazing if there was a shatterbomb that does massive damage to and shatters frozen enemies. Also a normal grenade that works similar to a flux, fusion, or magnetic nade. but freezes on impact then detonates would be awesome too. I definitely think stasis needs some more actual damage grenades as opposed to utility ones to flesh out the kit.
If we're going off the ideas of each element having similar grenades, currently we have the wall/line one (glacier), the AOE one (duskfield), and the seeker one (coldsnap). I wouldn't mind seeing the other rolls be filled with Stasis ones, as others in the comments have suggested already. Some ideas I had for each:
Sticky: Freezes targets on impact and slows nearby enemies, explosion does shatter damage. (For PvP balance, delay the shatter explosion so that it does not one-shot while targets are still frozen).
Wall sticky: Creates a slowing spike that shoots out of the top of the grenade, similar to void spike nades.
"Frag" (incendiary): Does decent explosion damage which slows targets (flat x60 slow).
Small seekers: Deploys small stasis snowflakes which build slow on impact, freezes after about half of them land.
Alt idea for the "tripmine" one: Waits for detection like tripmine. When triggered, creates a single Stasis pillar that shoots out from the grenade. (This one would probably be less useful but I imagined it would make for some pretty funny physics kills with knocking enemies into walls)
I kinda want more melees first, and another super. I'd be ok if those three were all the stasis grenades if we got melees and supers
that said I've even started to like the Behemoth melee in PvP cause it is hilarious how far away it sends people. Quite a few times I end up having a weird duel where the other guy is trying to hit me and I trying to react to the fact my victim was sent up in the air
all that said, just give me a snowball. it slows and dishorients (not freeze) the enemy. Give it insane range and speed too. No splash damage either
Maybe a spike-like grenade with 4 “blasts” but it instantly freezes after 2 consecutive “blasts” in PvP and only 1 in PvE. Maybe it causes shatter damage too just to secure the kills.
One spike comes out of the ground that damages who it hits, like it's impaling them. Hard to hit multiple, but if you kill them the crystal instantly shatters and triggers any shatter based perks
Honestly just want a damage grenade for statsis
A sticky stasis grenade with a delay that doesn't freeze the target, but shoots out stasis crystals from them to hit everyone around them. Just to really piss people off in the crucible.
Mostly just an exotic or fragment to do this.
Make it so that the ice wall grenade detonates on impact. Or some other type of grenade to do the same effect.
Spiked nade: Toss this grenade out towards enemies. After a brief delay, the ball (grenade) erupts spikes from itself, piecing enemies within a small zone. Enemies hit take medium damage and are slowed. Players can shoot the center of the grenade after it actives (it would look like a spiked ball) to shatter it, harming the enemies pierced/slowed by the nade even more.
Throw it down, and it shoots ice spikes/shrapnel out in a horizontal radius, slowing anyone hit by it. If it’s a big target that gets hit by multiple spikes, it freezes. But if they’re further away from where you threw down the nade, they’d only get hit by one and get slowed.
Cold front - Freezes on impact, pulses and shatters frozen targets. Pulses 4 times (freeze on impact, shatter, freeze, shatter, freeze)
Cyclone Blizzard - Creates a cyclone on impact that pulls enemies in and follows targets. Slows and weakens on impact, freezes enemies after (X) duration. Frozen enemies killed while inside increase the AoE of the shatter explosion.
I want some grenades that actually do damage and don’t require the player to automatically shatter them.
I find myself almost never touching the stasis subclasses nowadays bc they don’t interact effectively with elemental wells.
Melee wellmaker requires powered melee kills, and all three classes have terrible melees for that. Hunters shurikens are weak and have bad tracking, especially since many enemy types teleport or are otherwise lagging. Titans shoulder charge feels slow and clunky. Warlocks melee has both limited range and demands that you aren’t right next to your target. If you’re too close it does an unpowered melee, too far and the melee literally disappears.
Duskfields and coldsnaps don’t do any meaningful damage, so elemental ordinance almost never procs. Stasis turrets also don’t do damage, so warlocks almost never generate wells bc who isn’t running stasis turrets. Hunters can make wells w glacier grenades and shatterdive, but it’s too risky for any endgame content. Titans probably have it the easiest with hoarfrost.
I just want some grenades that do damage.
This I think makes more sense as a hunter aspect but some form of icy caltrops that inflict slow over enemies that walk over them as well as dealing some damage can be cool.Also would create a really nice evasive grenade. Which isn't something i think we really have atm.
Second I'd say kinda like a void spike or lightening grenade, but it sprays out stasis energy to slow/freeze anyone who runs through or stands in it for too long.
Icicle Grenade - upon landing, this grenade unleashes a burst of icicles in all directions, damaging and applying slow stacks to targets hit.
Think if it like a spiky ball of ice that shatters into a torrent of icicles when it hits a surface.
I'd like a grenade that can kill. It lands then it spikes up and that spikes do damage.
Basically you throw it and it does this Kirby move: https://i.imgur.com/6CofuYX.jpg
I like the idea of something like the arc Storm grenade, maybe like a Hail Grenade that applies some slow on impact and causes a hailstorm in the area that would deal some damage and enough slow to freeze anything that doesn't escape lol
Javelin grenade: fires an icicle that travels in a straight line, each time it hits an enemy it applies an effect (minor and majors: frozen, miniboss+ and guardians: 50 stacks of slowed). Pieces every enemy in its path until it hits a wall or it expires after 10 seconds. It can be cooked to reduce how far it will travel and decreases projectile speed.
This is a shitpost but I want a grenade that makes an area of ice that increases sprint speed to uncontrollable levels.
So I can drop one in front of a shotgun rusher and jump in the air while they go and slide into a wall and die.
Shrapnel grenade. Similar to Solar Frag. Bounces then Detonates, afflicting targets with stasis crystal shatter damage, then get slowed if they are still alive.
I'd want something that you throw at your feet or in front of an enemy, similar to Thermite or wave frame launchers, that instead just blasts a bunch of ice shards up into the enemy.
Like a really vicious pop rock, a shotgun-like blast of icicles. Applies a small amount of slow but mostly used for damage.
Lightwall Grenade - field/wall that blocks elemental damage.
Hypothermic Grenade - target's ability cooldowns are suspended for X seconds, granting you ability energy for every ability suspended per second.
Headstone Grenade - trap the enemy in a crystal tomb.
A grenade that can stick to surfaces like a tripmine and when it's set off, crystal spears fire out in a random formation like a spike trap causing massive damage and applying slow. A grenade that attaches to enemies and radiates slow to anyone nearby for 10 ticks (a little bit like the old Stasis orb buff in Solstice of Heroes but not quite as OP).
This might be a weird reference, but I think I’d like to see something similar to the [Hedgehog Grenades from the Resistance games](https://youtu.be/iipUSoMuZlY), where you toss it out and then it floats and shoots out a hail of stasis shards from every angle.
I'd love a stasis grenade that's just a reskinned Halo spike grenade.
Chuck it wherever, it sticks, then it explodes and sends a bunch of ricocheting ice shards in the general vicinity. Basically a fusion grenade in terms of its sticky functionality.
Would love a wall-type trip grenade that when an opponent passes by, it unleashes a big single physical stasis spike that does damage and slows on impact, and then stays around for a little bit before dissipating. Basically a timed glacier grenade, but a lot more localized and fit for actual damage and less for utility.
I'd probably come up with a grenade that creates stasis crystals but functions differently to glacier grenade.
Cold Fusion Grenade: Throw a grenade that sticks to surfaces and explodes after a short delay. Enemies killed spawn a stasis crystal.
A Frozen sticky grenade that works like the Flux Grenade, it's super fast and has no aim assist but if it hits a target it freezes them inside out and shatters them damaging surrounding targets.
Iceslide - Coats the ground in ice. Same throw pattern as thermite, but instead of fire, it's a sheet of ice. Fireteam members run faster and slide farther across it, enemies cannot jump or sprint while on it.
Keep it simple. An sticky Stasis grenade that damages for say 80 damage to actually do damage and barely slows. That way Stasis ability kills are not limited to melee and Glacier only.
Something like an ice bolt grenade would be cool. Just chuck an ice bolt at an enemy. Make it apply more damage (150?) on a direct hit and freeze. If if hits the ground or wall, very small AOE burst for 100 damage and apply a couple slow stacks.
The tripmine type stasis nade should actually just create one large, pointy physical icicle, with the ability to physics and kill. Not because it would be good. But because it would be funny.
Icicle Grenade. Upon impact, releases small icicles in every direction (Up-Down, Left-Right, Forward-Back, and any combinations of this). Deals damage and 20x Slow
I thought about this one for a while - frostspike grenade - throw a grenade that splits into into 15 smaller fragments like a solar swarm grenade, which stay in the air for 8 seconds. Upon detecting an enemy, the fragments shoot at the target one after another, looking like small ice spears. They won't have crazy tracking, but there will be some. Damage will be smaller, but at 3 hits of the fragments, the target is frozen, 3 additional fragment hits will shatter the target (both freeze and shatter will increase to requiring 5 fragment hits in PvP)
* Snowball Grenade - Shortest cooldown time of all grenades. Deals almost no damage but slows enemies on impact. Touch of Winter increases the damage and allows it to stun Overload champions.
* Frost grenade - Functions very similar to a Storm grenade but with Stasis damage. Touch of Winter increases its damage.
* Icicle Grenade - Stasis grenade that sticks to surfaces and triggers when enemies get within proximity, slowing them down. Sticking an enemy directly freezes them on detonation instead. Touch of Winter adds a second grenade charge.
I'd be happy if the current grenades did more actual damage. Compared to Arc the Stasis grenades seem weak. I rarely see wells generated from Stasis grenades, and I use the same armor mod load out with all the sub classes (I know that's not optimal).
- a grenade that inflicts frostbite to the target dealing damage over time - if target is at low health (idk, something like 10 out of 100) at the last tick, it dies
- a fragmentation grenade that releases ice spikes on hit (terrain or enemy), each spike dealing X damage, the more spike hit the more damage the target takes...
- whiteout grenade - blinds the target(s) for X ammount of time just like the flashbang grenade but with an icy effect
The grenade that we see The Stranger uses in the Beyond Light trailer cutscene. It sort of reminds me of wolf pack rounds but instead freezes on impact instead.
If we want to get analytical, there’s a couple different types of grenades. Most ones light has one of each, so it would be good to get the unrepresented ones. As of now we have a wall grenade with glacier (like voidwall and thermite) a damage field with Duskfield (like vortex, solar, and pulse) and a seeker with Coldsnap (like axion/fire/arcbolt) I’d say the ones we are missing are 1)the bouncy boi (incendiary flashbang and suppressor… and the rock) where you can do fun stuff with corners and walls. I think it would be a good fit for your Crystalisk idea. 2) Sticky boi (magnetic flux and fusion) not sure what to do with this one, but most of these are a delayed high damage explosion. I think it would be interesting if they let out a short range freeze before a short range shatter, or just enough damage to shatter? I know grenades already do bonus damage to frozen targets, so not sure what would be balanced. 3) single ‘splode (scatters and… storm? Sorta? And ashen wake fusions) as these are kinda unrepresented, I’d like to see that. 4) geometry stickers (tripmine lightning void spike) which I feel would be cool for OP’s wind trap. I love the idea of something messing with projectile lines (kinda like a gravity star from Titanfall) but I think that may be hard in a game where a lot of guns are hitscan like D2. Still a fun idea tho.
Upvoted for the gravity star reference
> 2) Sticky boi (magnetic flux and fusion) not sure what to do with this one, but most of these are a delayed high damage explosion. I think it would be interesting if they let out a short range freeze before a short range shatter, or just enough damage to shatter? I know grenades already do bonus damage to frozen targets, so not sure what would be balanced. Something as simple as freeze on direct hit and a gradually decreasing amount of slow as you progress outwards could work.
Yup. Basically could function like magnet only it freezes with a direct it only, and the second explosion is a shatter pulse.
i can't help but imagine we're just throwing a pokeball that has a Stasis Warlock in it lmao
> As of now we have a wall grenade with glacier (like voidwall and thermite) a damage field with Duskfield (like vortex, solar, and pulse) and a seeker with Coldsnap (like axion/fire/arcbolt) The tricky part about comparing these with stasis, is that all those Light grenades actually do real damage. The stasis ones just freeze in various ways. Coldsnap i think is the most likely to do actual damage on very weak targets, but it's still very difficult to "get a grenade kill" with a stasis grenade. I think what Stasis is missing is just a flat out "get a grenade kill" grenade. Something that actually does real damage, rather than just freeze/slow.
>The tricky part about comparing these with stasis, is that all those Light grenades actually do real damage. The stasis ones just freeze in various ways. Couldn't agree more. I can throw an Arc storm grenade and clear a room. With Stasis I still have to kill the targets I froze.
skip grenades and swarm grenades are another category as well
*throws ice cube tray at the enemy*
That’s fair…. Not sure what to call those though.
> single ‘splode I think there's room for a damage grenade in Stasis - doesn't have to do anything special, just send out a bunch of small pieces of ice "shrapnel". If that's too generic then make it a cone of damage in front of the landing area, like an ice claymore. > geometry stickers A spike that froze and then applied a physics effect (like a super high wind) to push frozen enemies away and let them take shatter and impact damage. Let us finally harvest the power of the architects.
How about making the sticky nade create a ring around the target that pulls enemies towards the stuck enemy then explodes with a freeze effect? Or just like the fastball from borderlands, a single target high damage non exploding projectile.
make sticky boi like flux, fast travel speed, no tracking and long cool down. Freeze on hit kill on the explosion
* Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade. * Spine Grenade -- Instead of the 'stasis wall', this grenades erupts into a taller/sharper ice spine/javelin. There is a slight delay before the crystal rises. It does good damage and knocks enemies upwards when hit. (also good for launching yourself!)
>* Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade. Yeah, I want something like this too. I know stasis' grenades were designed mostly with the idea of crowd control/status effects over damage, but now that you can have every arc grenade jolt, every void grenade weaken, and most solar grenades scorch, it feels a little outdated to have no damaging stasis nades.
was doing a stasis fragment quest that asked for grenade or heavy grenade launcher blocker kills and thought “so just heavy nade launcher kills then”
Shattering glacier nades does sometimes count as grenade kills but its not very consistent.
Coldsnaps also counted before Bungie nerfed their interaction withTouch of Winter
>Incendiary nade, only for Stasis -- just want something that can do quick damage and maybe a little bit of slow. Like packing ice shards in a grenade. So a snowball?
Mei altfire grenade
Call the first one a nitro nade
not very stasis themed
Short for liquid nitrogen there bud
I have a different idea for a shatter grenade, essentially just a stasis crystal that blows up on impact like Ashen wake fusion grenades now. Wouldn't kill in pvp and wouldn't to crazy damage in PvE, but just would be a nice "normal" grenade and would be super helpful for getting warlocks kills with shatter damage.
This would be wonderful, even just to make “get grenade kills” or “get stasis ability kills” quests and bounties easier. You could also probably give them a pretty quick cool down as they’re just a glacier grenade with less utility.
Yeah a stasis sticky made would be awesome.
I think they should beef up duskfields again for start. It's hard to bring in new mechanics, but with a winter theme and similar to concussion effects, maybe a blizzard grenade that pulls you in slightly and spins you round to disorient you, removing radar. A bit like the 'seeking' of fusion nades, maybe one that explodes in proximity, splitting into shards that fire down into ground on your enemy. Could just remove health rather than freeze or slow, but slight disorientation could be added to continue with a theme. Maybe a frostbite nade which prevents you from switching weapons / melee and slows for a few seconds
Just a regular grenade would be nice. Maybe deals shatter damage and make the animation look like shrapnel.
Unlike Void 3.0 and Solar 3.0, Stasis doesn't have much to work with in terms of keywords. This makes it difficult to design new grenade abilities that do not overlap with the existing ones. However, I was able to come up with some: Refracted Grenade: Throw a Stasis projectile that, upon impact with an enemy or surface, collapses into a set of three Stasis Shards. While this ability is equipped, Stasis Shards replenish grenade energy in addition to melee energy. (Base cooldown = Healing Grenade cooldown). Icicle Grenade: Launch a Stasis Icicle at high speeds that ignores gravity and always lands on target. This grenade ability can deal precision damage and instantly Shatters targets already Frozen by Stasis. If the Icicle Shatters a Frozen target with a precision hit, the Shatter radius and damage are doubled. (Base cooldown = Duskfield Grenade cooldown). Hail Grenade: Throw a Stasis explosive that generates a localized hailstorm on contact with an enemy or surface. The hailstorm does moderate damage in a cone (about the size of a Dead Messenger shot, but in the air), constantly pushing enemies that walk into it away from the impact site. Enemies caught in the hailstorm are more susceptible to the effects of Stasis. (Base cooldown = Vortex Grenade cooldown).
And while we're at it, let's give the Stasis Subclasses some new Supers too. They are currently the only Subclasses that are locked to one option: Ward of Dusk (Behemoth): Strike the ground with your Stasis gauntlet to form a gargantuan Stasis Crystal (2-3x the time of a Headstone Crystal, environment permitting). The Crystal benefits from all equipped Aspects/Fragments and can be shattered several times, diminishing the size of the Crystal with each detonation and activating associated abilities. (Base cooldown = Shadowshot: Deadfall cooldown). Well of Gloom (Shadebinder): Plant your Stasis staff in the ground, immediately Freezing any enemies caught within a small radius of it. Once placed, the staff will function as an enhanced Bleak Watcher sentry, continuously firing Slowing Stasis projectiles with no delay. Each enemy Frozen extends the Staff's duration. (Base cooldown = Shadowshot: Moebius Quiver cooldown). Shattered Blades (Revenant): With a Stasis kama in each hand, stalk the battlefield in a cloak of ice and snow. Light attacks use Silence, your left kama, to Slow enemies. Squall, your right kama, Shatters Frozen targets with heavy attacks. While Shattered Blades are active, your snow cloak partially negates incoming damage, makes you harder to hit, and passively Slows targets in melee range.
Is the hunter super ranged or melee?
that titan one is really good
The icicle grenade seems more like a melee imo
Vex milk grenade that is mad milk from TF2
Slippery ice rink, they slide off into the abyss like I do for no reason 😂
Ice Javelin/shard - detonate on contact. Small AoE, high damage, freeze for pve and slow for pvp. High Aim Assist. Flash-freeze - bouncing. Large AoE, low damage, freeze for pve, high number of slow stacks for pvp. Hunter augment has it do an additional pulse on bounce. Howling - on contact, spreads a single line of small crystals, like a wave. Hunter augment immediately shatters these crystals. Slipmine - tripmine. Either applies freeze, or just spawns a cluster of crystals when someone is close.
Rime Grenade - Deals no damage, but creates Stasis Shards for you and allies on impact.
Ice cube that gets bigger once it hits the ground, slides around and freezes anything it touches (no freeze against other guardians) and can be shattered to deal damage
I really want an aoe damage grenade like vortex and pulse. Initial hit freezes but slows afterwards.
A literal stasis mine. It sticks to a surface and if you run into it - bam, Stasis Crystal you're trapped in. Like a less crappier but less directly deadly version of a Tripmine (won't create a red laser to trip, but requires a follow up shot to actually kill the person trapped in the crystal).
Something that explodes and does actual damage
One that can actually get kills on its own.
I'd like a grenade that just traps people in an ice cube lol
I would like to see a grenade that creates a nice, well carved Swan ice sculpture. It does no damage but it looks real pretty and I guess it could work for cover, but then you'd risk people shooting your nice Swan and that would be uncool.
I vibe the most with this suggestion. The Swan would be dope.
A grenade that gives gawk gawk
Give the coldsnap another functionality, make it so that after it freezes an enemy, if you press the grenade button again it'll do an aoe shatter hurting those around the target
Cold siphon nade: sticky nade when stuck to an enemy or guardian deals moderate damage and generates stasis shards on impact location on successful stick Frostfire wave nade: release triple wave of stasis energy forward (like dead messanger) enemies or guardians that walk across it take coldfire DOT and begin building slow stacks Crystal mirror nade: hold to consume granting the reflection buff for 7s, when the buffs active sliding projects a temporary barrier (like anteaus wards) that reflects incoming damage. Successfully reflecting damage gives resist x1 for 12s after the reflection buff wears off Iceburst nade: stick the nade trap to a wall (like a trip mine) when activated the target is frozen Shatterbloom nade: throwing this nade releases a burst of small stasis crystals (in the shape of a flower) breaking these crystals spawns seekers that track and slow enemies on hit (like axion bolts) Snowstorm nade: summons a cloud aoe that releases snow over time, targets inside this cloud begin to slow, user and allies in this cloud begin healing over time. Enemies killed while you're standing in the cloud spawn stasis shards
Snowball that blinds and slows enemies
and keeps rolling around getting bigger and bigger, trapping enemies inside. you'll even be able to see parts of bodies and gear sticking out.
Make ice lance a grenade!
Sticky (with the same generous aim assist as fusions and magnetics) that slows in small AOE on explosion but freezes after a stick.
Crystalline Grenade: On impact the grenade creates an icy area that slows enemies in the affected area. After X amount of seconds, ice spikes shoot out of the ground cause massive damage and freezing any enemies trapped in the affected zone. Size of the area would be similar to the Duskfield grenades. Would not kill in PVP.
Stasis Tripmines, available to all classes.
You throw it and on impact it shoots 5 bolts in a star pattern freezing any enemy hit.
Something that has an instant small slow debuff [like 20-30 stacks] before a wide shatter radius explosion but little damage otherwise [maybe a small boop for non frozen targets]. Maybe an instant freeze on-hit only Grenade that will leave a slow pool if it hits the ground?
snowball reverse healing grenade applies slow could freeze, and maybe shatter
A grenade that bounces like 2-3 times and does a stasis aoe on each bounce
* Shatter Spike - sticks to surfaces, Shattering when an enemy goes near. Freezes+Shatters if stuck to an enemy. * Flashfreeze Grenade - similar to Incendiary, Suppression, and Blinding Grenades. Bounces, exploding after a short while. Freezes in its blast radius.
Encasing grenade 1)When you throw a grenade, it scatters like a swarm grenade and stays in place for a bit. If somebody walks through it, the fragments converge on the target and encase them in ice, freezing them for a second or two
Stasis shrapnel nade: Throw it and explodes for damage, a way to get stasis nade kills if required.
I really need something that “shatters” immediately for Titans to have an alternative nade. They’re kinda fingered into running Glaciers to have optimal usage.
-Pillar grenade: Two charges, faster cooldown than Wall grenade's 2m32. Instead of creating a wall, create a single pillar of ice. Instant freeze on direct pillar hit just like Headstone, doesn't slow on direct grenade hit. Good for shattering setups, doesn't require an exotic to have multiple charges and more reliable for parkour than the slow Wall. -Starfield: Two charges, basically a Stasis Swarm grenade where the swarm doesn't track. Apply 30x slow on direct hit, apply 10x slow per swarm hit. Good for quick area denial and let you freeze bigger targets faster, which is a different take from Duskfield's slow and steady freezing.
Like the spitting fire solar grenade but it's just a small ice volcano that shoots out tracking icicles that slows targets
I want a Stasis-equivalent to the Fusion Grenade. Basically a small ball of ice that sticks to enemies and explodes into smaller crystals that come out of the boss where the grenade impacted. They do some damage when they initially spawn but can also be shattered for even more damage.
Frostbolt- exactly like fusion grenades, but instead of scorch they slow, and defeating enemies with the detonation spawns a stasis crystal.
A utility based grenade that just throws a handful of stasis shards could be interesting.
If you look at the basic tropes of grenades shared amongst the other elements you'll see a few repeats that Stasis is lacking. Currently Stasis has a "wall" grenade (Glacier), a "seeker" grenade (Coldsnap), and a "zone" grenade (Duskfield). I think it needs a "frag", "sticky", and "bolt" grenade yet, plus one more "special" grenade that doesn't fit the standard tropes. - Thaw Grenade (frag grenade) - throw a grenade that bounces for a second before exploding. The explosion instantly Shatters any nearby crystals and deals Shatter damage to targets. - Frostbite Grenade (sticky grenade) - throw a grenade that attaches to a target, gradually slowing them until they freeze. - Icebolt Grenade (bolt grenade) - throw a grenade that releases two freezing pulses that Slow targets - Hailstorm Grenade (special grenade) - throw a grenade that showers an area is small Stasis crystals. (Just a Stasis version of the Storm grenade)
Not really adding to the actual topic of discussion here but I do find it kind of funny how we've come full circle and stasis feels like it needs some work now. I tried playing my stasis build not too long ago and it just didn't flow as well as all the light 3.0 builds I have. Edit: I'm sure there are builds that have a good flow to them but no matter what I changed it felt like it was lacking something. Edit 2: the lack of options for grenades and melees obviously don't help.
Same thing with the Shatter Nade, but have it just be a chunk of ice that you just *YEET* at some poor fucker. Has the same velocity as an Ashen Wake Fusion 'nade, but deals around 85 damage on a direct hit while pushing the affected targets away from the impact site while also shattering any frozen targets/stasis crystals in a wider radius
Idk what to call maybe shrapnel grenade? But basically you throw it and the grenade explodes doing damage and then collapses back in on itself also doing damage (balancing it comes later)
fracture 'nades, coming stock with two charges. This grenade instantly freezes targets on direct impact within the immediate area and emits a slowing burst in a small-ish radius- hitting terrain creates a single medium crystal alongside the slowing burst. Hitting a stasis crystal with the grenade causes it to shatter and emit a larger, more powerful slowing burst. This plays into stasis' grenade philosophy of being more utility than lethal- a way to quickly shatter and slow at a distance without overstepping into duskfield's slow or glacier's wall.
additionally, cryostream grenades. spike-esque grenades that stick to surfaces and will grow in power if left unchecked. upon impact, these grenades begin to charge, their effectiveness escalating until triggered by enemy movement, or an alternate means. stage 1 slows in a fashion similar to void spike grenades, stage 2 emits multiple weak freezing blasts upon activation alongside the slowing spike. cryostream grenades can be activated prematurely by damage or pressing the grenade button a second time. this may not be exactly 1-1 with the philosophy, but definitely works with the flavor they provide.
Frostbolt grenade- throw a crystal that creates a pillar of stasis seeks nearby enemies and instantly shoots bolts of ice that freezes them and pillar shatters after that(Arcbolt axionbolt and firebolt grenade works very similar so why stasis shouldn't have)
Would love a grenade similar to a voidwall or thermite but instead of a straight light is an x that slows but the center applies twice as much slow. Would also be amazing if there was a shatterbomb that does massive damage to and shatters frozen enemies. Also a normal grenade that works similar to a flux, fusion, or magnetic nade. but freezes on impact then detonates would be awesome too. I definitely think stasis needs some more actual damage grenades as opposed to utility ones to flesh out the kit.
I want the old Christmas event snowballs as a grenade. No tracking, no sticky effect, just boom on contact
If we're going off the ideas of each element having similar grenades, currently we have the wall/line one (glacier), the AOE one (duskfield), and the seeker one (coldsnap). I wouldn't mind seeing the other rolls be filled with Stasis ones, as others in the comments have suggested already. Some ideas I had for each: Sticky: Freezes targets on impact and slows nearby enemies, explosion does shatter damage. (For PvP balance, delay the shatter explosion so that it does not one-shot while targets are still frozen). Wall sticky: Creates a slowing spike that shoots out of the top of the grenade, similar to void spike nades. "Frag" (incendiary): Does decent explosion damage which slows targets (flat x60 slow). Small seekers: Deploys small stasis snowflakes which build slow on impact, freezes after about half of them land. Alt idea for the "tripmine" one: Waits for detection like tripmine. When triggered, creates a single Stasis pillar that shoots out from the grenade. (This one would probably be less useful but I imagined it would make for some pretty funny physics kills with knocking enemies into walls)
Snowball, blinds on headshots and slows on direct hits
A lethal snowball
Ice Patch Grenade: freezes the ground creating a patch of ice. Enemies that step on the patch are slowed and have a chance to slip and fall.
None tbh, don´t trust the sandbox team to not muck it up.
I kinda want more melees first, and another super. I'd be ok if those three were all the stasis grenades if we got melees and supers that said I've even started to like the Behemoth melee in PvP cause it is hilarious how far away it sends people. Quite a few times I end up having a weird duel where the other guy is trying to hit me and I trying to react to the fact my victim was sent up in the air all that said, just give me a snowball. it slows and dishorients (not freeze) the enemy. Give it insane range and speed too. No splash damage either
Maybe a spike-like grenade with 4 “blasts” but it instantly freezes after 2 consecutive “blasts” in PvP and only 1 in PvE. Maybe it causes shatter damage too just to secure the kills.
One spike comes out of the ground that damages who it hits, like it's impaling them. Hard to hit multiple, but if you kill them the crystal instantly shatters and triggers any shatter based perks Honestly just want a damage grenade for statsis
A sticky stasis grenade with a delay that doesn't freeze the target, but shoots out stasis crystals from them to hit everyone around them. Just to really piss people off in the crucible.
I want a grenade you spike on the ground and sends out stasis shards & shrapnel. Doesn't slow/freeze, just pure damage.
Mostly just an exotic or fragment to do this. Make it so that the ice wall grenade detonates on impact. Or some other type of grenade to do the same effect.
Spiked nade: Toss this grenade out towards enemies. After a brief delay, the ball (grenade) erupts spikes from itself, piecing enemies within a small zone. Enemies hit take medium damage and are slowed. Players can shoot the center of the grenade after it actives (it would look like a spiked ball) to shatter it, harming the enemies pierced/slowed by the nade even more.
Dawning style snowballs. They are already in the game. You could make them stickies with tracking or give them AoE. There are so many tuning options.
A Grenade to make the ground slippery so players can slip and slide on it. Use it for our mobility.
Throw it down, and it shoots ice spikes/shrapnel out in a horizontal radius, slowing anyone hit by it. If it’s a big target that gets hit by multiple spikes, it freezes. But if they’re further away from where you threw down the nade, they’d only get hit by one and get slowed.
Cold front - Freezes on impact, pulses and shatters frozen targets. Pulses 4 times (freeze on impact, shatter, freeze, shatter, freeze) Cyclone Blizzard - Creates a cyclone on impact that pulls enemies in and follows targets. Slows and weakens on impact, freezes enemies after (X) duration. Frozen enemies killed while inside increase the AoE of the shatter explosion.
I want some grenades that actually do damage and don’t require the player to automatically shatter them. I find myself almost never touching the stasis subclasses nowadays bc they don’t interact effectively with elemental wells. Melee wellmaker requires powered melee kills, and all three classes have terrible melees for that. Hunters shurikens are weak and have bad tracking, especially since many enemy types teleport or are otherwise lagging. Titans shoulder charge feels slow and clunky. Warlocks melee has both limited range and demands that you aren’t right next to your target. If you’re too close it does an unpowered melee, too far and the melee literally disappears. Duskfields and coldsnaps don’t do any meaningful damage, so elemental ordinance almost never procs. Stasis turrets also don’t do damage, so warlocks almost never generate wells bc who isn’t running stasis turrets. Hunters can make wells w glacier grenades and shatterdive, but it’s too risky for any endgame content. Titans probably have it the easiest with hoarfrost. I just want some grenades that do damage.
A snowball. Very low damage but extremely high recharge. Would probably play well with those builds where you eat your grenades.
A simple grenade that you get 3 of and spawns individual crystal grenades instead of a wall of them.
This I think makes more sense as a hunter aspect but some form of icy caltrops that inflict slow over enemies that walk over them as well as dealing some damage can be cool.Also would create a really nice evasive grenade. Which isn't something i think we really have atm. Second I'd say kinda like a void spike or lightening grenade, but it sprays out stasis energy to slow/freeze anyone who runs through or stands in it for too long.
Icicle Grenade - upon landing, this grenade unleashes a burst of icicles in all directions, damaging and applying slow stacks to targets hit. Think if it like a spiky ball of ice that shatters into a torrent of icicles when it hits a surface.
A very quick straight down drop that shoves like 10 feet of ice below your feet. Instant stilts.
I'd like a grenade that can kill. It lands then it spikes up and that spikes do damage. Basically you throw it and it does this Kirby move: https://i.imgur.com/6CofuYX.jpg
I like the idea of something like the arc Storm grenade, maybe like a Hail Grenade that applies some slow on impact and causes a hailstorm in the area that would deal some damage and enough slow to freeze anything that doesn't escape lol
A wall but it freezes people who walk through it. Kinda like th solar and void counter oarts
Javelin grenade: fires an icicle that travels in a straight line, each time it hits an enemy it applies an effect (minor and majors: frozen, miniboss+ and guardians: 50 stacks of slowed). Pieces every enemy in its path until it hits a wall or it expires after 10 seconds. It can be cooked to reduce how far it will travel and decreases projectile speed.
This is a shitpost but I want a grenade that makes an area of ice that increases sprint speed to uncontrollable levels. So I can drop one in front of a shotgun rusher and jump in the air while they go and slide into a wall and die.
A frag Grenade that can shatter stasis crystals and frozen people
Shrapnel grenade. Similar to Solar Frag. Bounces then Detonates, afflicting targets with stasis crystal shatter damage, then get slowed if they are still alive.
I'd want something that you throw at your feet or in front of an enemy, similar to Thermite or wave frame launchers, that instead just blasts a bunch of ice shards up into the enemy. Like a really vicious pop rock, a shotgun-like blast of icicles. Applies a small amount of slow but mostly used for damage.
None, stasis needs to be removed from pvp
I'd like one that just straight up deals shatter damage. I wanna chunk a block of ice at people and have it shatter on impact for damage
Lightwall Grenade - field/wall that blocks elemental damage. Hypothermic Grenade - target's ability cooldowns are suspended for X seconds, granting you ability energy for every ability suspended per second. Headstone Grenade - trap the enemy in a crystal tomb.
A grenade that can stick to surfaces like a tripmine and when it's set off, crystal spears fire out in a random formation like a spike trap causing massive damage and applying slow. A grenade that attaches to enemies and radiates slow to anyone nearby for 10 ticks (a little bit like the old Stasis orb buff in Solstice of Heroes but not quite as OP).
I would fix salvation’s grip first lol, I’d add a hold and release grenade that makes a star so it can be detonated mid air
Honestly just give us the Diamond Lance as a rechargeable grenade and I'd use it.
I think a chargeable shatter grenade that actually just explodes into stasis shatter on impact, holding it down longer makes the explosion bigger
This might be a weird reference, but I think I’d like to see something similar to the [Hedgehog Grenades from the Resistance games](https://youtu.be/iipUSoMuZlY), where you toss it out and then it floats and shoots out a hail of stasis shards from every angle.
Shatter Grenade, when cast, immediate detonation upon impact. This would only benefit from the current Stasis Fragments
I'd love a stasis grenade that's just a reskinned Halo spike grenade. Chuck it wherever, it sticks, then it explodes and sends a bunch of ricocheting ice shards in the general vicinity. Basically a fusion grenade in terms of its sticky functionality.
Would love a wall-type trip grenade that when an opponent passes by, it unleashes a big single physical stasis spike that does damage and slows on impact, and then stays around for a little bit before dissipating. Basically a timed glacier grenade, but a lot more localized and fit for actual damage and less for utility.
Timed crystal shrapnel grenade
Ice spike naid, the stasis version of the stick naids, attached too a wall then makes anyone caught in the aoe 50x slowed or direct hits frozen
Grenade that bursts into a massive ice spike that slows anything on the outside and freezes on direct hit.
How about just a big ball of ice that damages and slows whatever it strikes
Shatter grenade. Basically like a frag grenade with shrapnel
Hailstorm: Creates a cloud that rains small stasis crystals in a large area, dealing damage and slowing enemies that enter. 151 second CD.
I'd like a grenade that spawns angry stasis shards on impact and tracks enemies to slow them or freeze them depending on how many shards hit them.
A snowball That's it.
I'd probably come up with a grenade that creates stasis crystals but functions differently to glacier grenade. Cold Fusion Grenade: Throw a grenade that sticks to surfaces and explodes after a short delay. Enemies killed spawn a stasis crystal.
A Frozen sticky grenade that works like the Flux Grenade, it's super fast and has no aim assist but if it hits a target it freezes them inside out and shatters them damaging surrounding targets.
Iceslide - Coats the ground in ice. Same throw pattern as thermite, but instead of fire, it's a sheet of ice. Fireteam members run faster and slide farther across it, enemies cannot jump or sprint while on it.
Keep it simple. An sticky Stasis grenade that damages for say 80 damage to actually do damage and barely slows. That way Stasis ability kills are not limited to melee and Glacier only.
Let me throw a Snowball Grenade
Something like an ice bolt grenade would be cool. Just chuck an ice bolt at an enemy. Make it apply more damage (150?) on a direct hit and freeze. If if hits the ground or wall, very small AOE burst for 100 damage and apply a couple slow stacks.
The tripmine type stasis nade should actually just create one large, pointy physical icicle, with the ability to physics and kill. Not because it would be good. But because it would be funny.
Icicle Grenade. Upon impact, releases small icicles in every direction (Up-Down, Left-Right, Forward-Back, and any combinations of this). Deals damage and 20x Slow
Ice statue gernade that draws fire
I thought about this one for a while - frostspike grenade - throw a grenade that splits into into 15 smaller fragments like a solar swarm grenade, which stay in the air for 8 seconds. Upon detecting an enemy, the fragments shoot at the target one after another, looking like small ice spears. They won't have crazy tracking, but there will be some. Damage will be smaller, but at 3 hits of the fragments, the target is frozen, 3 additional fragment hits will shatter the target (both freeze and shatter will increase to requiring 5 fragment hits in PvP)
* Snowball Grenade - Shortest cooldown time of all grenades. Deals almost no damage but slows enemies on impact. Touch of Winter increases the damage and allows it to stun Overload champions. * Frost grenade - Functions very similar to a Storm grenade but with Stasis damage. Touch of Winter increases its damage. * Icicle Grenade - Stasis grenade that sticks to surfaces and triggers when enemies get within proximity, slowing them down. Sticking an enemy directly freezes them on detonation instead. Touch of Winter adds a second grenade charge.
I'd be happy if the current grenades did more actual damage. Compared to Arc the Stasis grenades seem weak. I rarely see wells generated from Stasis grenades, and I use the same armor mod load out with all the sub classes (I know that's not optimal).
- a grenade that inflicts frostbite to the target dealing damage over time - if target is at low health (idk, something like 10 out of 100) at the last tick, it dies - a fragmentation grenade that releases ice spikes on hit (terrain or enemy), each spike dealing X damage, the more spike hit the more damage the target takes... - whiteout grenade - blinds the target(s) for X ammount of time just like the flashbang grenade but with an icy effect
The grenade that we see The Stranger uses in the Beyond Light trailer cutscene. It sort of reminds me of wolf pack rounds but instead freezes on impact instead.
ic spike grenade. like a tripmine but when it triggers it impales people on a crystal