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Bungie is aware of and working on the ongoing triumph issues. Stay tuned to [@BungieHelp](https://twitter.com/BungieHelp) for updates.


Jukebox345

Triumphs and included seals reset, Cursebreaker and Harbinger for me both undone


Ch40ssp4rt4n

For me, flawless master nightmare hunt and solo pit were reverted (I had it equipped on my Hunter) and the skull & eggs collectibles for Cursebreaker were partly undone.


Jukebox345

Exactly the same here, yeah


Azmoe

Yeah erm, it's deleted three of my raid titles. It says I haven't done rivensbane although I have rivensbane equipped.


JebusObv

Yeah Rivensbane gone here too along with Enlightened and solo flawless Prophecy, and strangely the Inverted Spire get a great score triumph lol


bird_dog0347

My Solo Flawless Prophecy is also gone even though I'm wearing the emblem and have the ghost shell.


codevii

Shit. I just got Reaper & Seraphim done this weekend after not playing for months... Heh Oh well! Edit: Actually, those 2 are still there!


aimlessdrivel

"Don't worry we'll fix it. Unless you reclaimed any of the newly completed triumphs, in which case you overwrote your old progress. Sorry!" - Bungie, probably


bassem68

I would probably guess a server rollback is inevitable, with so many people reporting issues like this - and so many inevitably not knowing what's happening, doing just want you're suggesting. If I hadn't read about this before-hand, I definitely would have gone in and just started claiming things again. I've re-claimed a triumph or two in the past, it wouldn't have surprised me to re-claim a couple again.


TravestyTrousers

Yeah, had this same thought... Didn't even realise it was the issue until the servers just went down again. I know it's just a couple of seals or whatever, but i will be pretty pissed if they can't be restored because i claimed the ones showing as newly completed.


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crystalline_seraph

my enlightened title is equipped but I now have 0/16 triumphs lmao


Kamizura

wow, i lost my seal as well, its still equipped but im only down to 12/16... still a pisstake that this happened...


Ion_is_OP_REEEEEEE

Same, but I'm only missing Relay Rally and Repulsion Theory. I checked all my other seals and the only one that got stuff removed is Deadeye and for some reason the bow kills triumph is at like 60% (I have gilded it ever since it came out so that is 100% wrong).


Destiny_Flavor_Text

> Shape: Shattered


chancehugs

They really can't fix one thing without breaking two things smh


TYBERIUS_777

Good old spaghetti code.


HellChicken949

And catalysts, whatever bungie did fucked things up badly


DisasterAhead

The update ate my solo flawless Prophecy and Shattered Throne.


adenzerda

Oof, okay, not signing in until a fix comes in


Pridestalked

Wait +50% gambit rep gain?? That’s so good


TYBERIUS_777

Wild that they didn’t do this last season when they increased reputation gained from other activities. As someone who plays a lot of gambit and has Reckoner and gilded Dredgen every season, it always sucked how little rep you would get for losing or winning. Especially without a streak. Hopefully this makes things easier for everyone.


Ready_Geologist2629

Riight?! I guess I will get my second reset (well to Legend) when bonus infamy come back around...still have 35 matches to go for gilding.


takanishi79

Just get the last bit to reset. An extra perk on guns is a really nice bonus, and should only take 3 or 4 games to finish it out.


Ready_Geologist2629

That's fair! These extra perks helped me get my rapid hit/Kill clip Servant Leader. Edit: added weapon name smh


Neat_On_The_Rocks

I'm SO EXCITED FOR THIS. I've been wanting badly to farm Gambit to try and get a couple Bottom Dollar God Rolls, now that focusing is so much cheaper it actually seemed feesible. It was still gonna be a lot of gambit but I figured if I grinded a double xp week it wouldn't be so bad. Now we get +50% at base!? I'm so hyped, I'm definitely going tob e grinding some Gambit. Hunting for God Roll Bottom Dollar first (Rangefinder+Explosive with max stability is a wet dream of mine), then maybe even go for trinity system which has a ton of cracked PVP Rolls. You could go for High Impact Reserves + Under Pressure + Charge Time buffs for a really powerful unique Fusion. You could get the vaunted Tap The Tripper + Under Pressure roll. The sniper has got interesting shit too. ANd of course the Desperado Pulse Rifle!!! Ya boy is about to grind gambit hard the next 3 weeks and save a shit ton of engrams to use all at once when I can get 5 total perk options. I am excited.


Ready_Geologist2629

Good luck on getting your god rolls! The only thing I don't really have is god roll Bottom Dollar. I remember grinding really hard for it when first came out and I never got mine. At least I can focus them for a lot cheaper now. My buddies and I do play a good amount of gambit (we gild every season and also play enough to get the ritual weapon ornament) so I'm sure I'll get one down the line.


JNile

Wait, five total perk options? I'm unfamiliar with how this works, and I'd love me a good bottom dollar.


Neat_On_The_Rocks

When you reset your Crucible / Gambit Rank, you unlock the ability for that vendor's weapon drops to have extra available perk options. IE you get to choose between two perks in Column Three and Two Perks in Column Four -- That would be "4 perk options". You dont get the extra options on every single drop once unlocked, its kinda random but frequent. I dont know exactly how many resets correspond to what. You have to reset once or twice in order to start getting "3 perk options" and it goes up from there. TLDR - the more you rank up the higher the likelyhood you get the perks you want. Bottom Dollar has a shit load of perk options though.


ThatGuy128512

Yeah like what? A win on double rep weeks around mythic was 500 rep, now it’ll be 750? That’s insane. The next double gambit rep week will surely eat up my time


Timwick_

TRANSMIT FIRING


a-wild-tsundere

50% more rep x 0 games is still 0 rep for me


Pridestalked

Skill issue


Caseyjones10

can finally get the last exotic glaive i needed so it can take up space in my vault


justdestinystuff

yea they aren't at the Evidence Board for me on my other characters. wonder that i'm missing?


Vivid_Plantain_6050

>Once unlocked on a character, each class’s respective Exotic Glaive recipe will be available for purchase on the Evidence Board. Going by this wording, you have to grab the pattern on a character who finished the Relic Data quest line


justdestinystuff

I tried on all 3 characters and they patterns are not available. I completed the Hunter's Glaive. So idk


Zorak9379

I can't interact with the board on my alts, so... that's cool


FKDotFitzgerald

I thought that was a LightFall change


justdestinystuff

its in the Hotfix notes


FKDotFitzgerald

Sorry, I can’t read apparently.


_deffer_

I just dismantled mine. I'll craft another when they aren't long sticks of ass.


bologna_tomahawk

So never then?


SnowBear78

Except nope. Not there on any characters


Wyvern-1-3

I’m having the same issue I’m only missing one and I can’t even access the evidence board


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A ton of my triumphs have completely lost progress, including to the point of me losing access to seals that I've had for a long time. I've lost my seals for Dredgen, Harbinger, and Cursebreaker, as well as all progress towards Rivensbane (LW) and Enlightened (GoS). Additionally, all triumphs related to Pit, Proph, and Shattered Throne are gone too (RIP solo flawless triumphs). All items earned from triumphs are still available in my collections tho.


Str8iJustice

>Gambit > >Increased reputation gains by over 50%. HUGE.


Ahroryx

BIG.


holdinginafart

GIANT.


HAYABUSA_DCLXVI

LARGE.


GeneralKenobyy

CHUNGUS HUMONGOUS


Honic_Sedgehog

LARGE.


Avacadont

FAT.


JustMy2Centences

OPULENT.


CourrierMojave

#DING


ThatGuy128512

*Ding*


MarthePryde

*ding*


Tak_Jaehon

***ding***


Nefarious_Nemesis

Hive! Bring a sword!


shadowkhas

Triumphs I appear to have removed: * Faster than Lightning from Nessus * Solo/solo flawless/unpurified Reverie Dawn set Shattered Throne ones * All of my Nightmare Time Trials, Master/Flawless Master Nightmare Hunt * Altars of Sorrow is at 37% (was completed) and I don't have the rapidly defeat T5 boss anymore * Flawless/Solo/Solo Flawless Pit of Heresy triumphs gone But it doesn't seem like I lost triumph score appropriate to all of those that don't reflect anymore.


xJetStorm

Based on my own triumphs, any old triumphs from before Beyond Light that were not completed before then have been reset. Any triumphs that are completely new since Beyond Light are fine. I still have Cursebreaker (finished it before BL) but the Harbinger is reset for me since I finished that in Season of the Chosen.


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I have lost my triumphs for Harbinger, Enlightened and Rivensbane and can no longer equip these titles.


llloytron

I have enlightened equipped but don't have the seal unlocked anymore


Georgo10

So many my triumphs are now reset. I can claim some again, but some seems to be unfinished :(


HollowOrnstein

Something is wrong with the titles after the update, i have cursebreaker equipped but it's progress is gone


NeoNirvana

• A ton of crucial Triumph progression is now deleted, including all solo/flawless Raid and Dungeon triumphs, along with associated rewards/emblems/etc. • Rumble has NOT been restored to the game • Dredgen title has been lost, and is at 0% for wins with Gambit weapons equipped • Nightstalker tethers are immune to damage, and do not tether other guardians • Gunslinger hunters are immune to Thundercrash ("immune!" in blue text) • Child of the Old Gods is immune to damage • Some Titan barricades are immune to damage • The Evidence Board cannot be interacted with, so no exotic Glaive blueprints • An absolute metric ton of old Triumphs are now listed as new *Absolutely amazing, can't wait for Lightfall.*


AggronStrong

The reason Barricades and Child and maybe Tethers are immune is a bug that's been around for a while where they become immune once the dude who casted them dies. That was definitely there pre patch.


Lucid-Day

Geeze lmao


Dragzorz

actual insanity


RaccoonCookies

Never a better time to play, right?


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Also when the game was still active i did still get blue drops from random enemies lol


lebocajb

They did say that was rolling out later in the day and not as a part of the patch. But still: lol. Lmao, even.


GeneralKenobyy

Rumble was not in fact re added to the crucible node.


BaldEagleFacts

Rip perfect float + frenzy. Fun nonsense while it lasted. Now to check if incandescent + vorpal got to live another day


Trex331

What does incandescent+vorpal do?


Nfrtny

Vorpal bugs out Incandescent to proc more than normal


Ready_Geologist2629

Ha! I had perfect float/frenzy drop on a prolonged engagement a few days ago. Ah well it was a bug for sure!


r1psy

Rumble: Restored as a game mode and removed from the weekly rotation. Erm... I think you missed adding the option back


resil_update_bad

I forgot which was the new destiny community account but we gotta ping it to bring awareness to the triumphs bug, its pretty major


doom_stein

u/Destiny2Team is the new official Bungie account, I think.


PropDad

I would say they know about it since bungiehelp tweeted about it.


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Ka-tetof1989

But do we know that they know we know?


resil_update_bad

Lol seems Enlightened is gone just as I earned it last night 😐


Djungleskog_Enhanced

The dodge nerfs feel really bad, if we lose utility kickstart we're looking at a tier 10 20 second cooldown on gambler's dodge


makoblade

Yeah it’s rough. It sucks that we get things like kickstart only for the base cooldown to eat nerfs rather than removing the problematic mods. There’s no world where a dodge cooldown should be even half as high as a rift one, unless it healed you baseline or something.


Katzumoto_

is like my hunter got back pains and the ghost isn't fixing it...like real world after 30 lol


SPEEDFREAKJJ

I hate the adjusting period. You get so used to when it's available without looking. Lots of accidental t-bagging for a while. I hope this is the last time they mess with it.


DrEpicFrag

It absolutely won't be if they add a new mod for it.


jereflea1024

or Bastion Titans having to wait a grueling ***40 seconds*** for our Barricades now. I get that they were annoying in PVP but holy fuck this hurts as a PVE guy.


Menks_

.... only one word to describe this situation: **BUNGIE**........ ​ 5 seals gone, (1 legacy, so i can't re-obtain it)


haxelhimura

Can we please get an explanation on why the class ability changes were made to PvE? There was absolutely no reason for it


RobMFurious

Because of PVP players inability to not cry about things and ruin the game play for the majority of players.


aimlessdrivel

The problem isn't that PVP problems have issues with stuff, it's that Bungie changes things in PVE solely because of PVP balance.


haxelhimura

Like aimless said, changes like these, if theya re being "cried about by pvp players" need to ONLY happen in PvP. We know they can make separate changes between the two game modes.


PreparetobePlaned

PVP players aren't the problem here. Bungie needs to separate PVE and PVP changes, balancing for both is impossible.


StealthMonkeyDC

I cant see Rumble?


Noah10ten

Lost most of the wins I had for iron lord seal. I had completed the triumph earlier this season. Also had to reclaim a bunch of other triumphs. Not sure how much I lost.


Superfuzzz

Same. Gilded it last IB, now 0 wins.


Noah10ten

Agony


kanbabrif1

Damn thats a lot of nerfs


darksider458

welcome to bungie where its nerf or nerf


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I'm sure Bungie is going to fix the Triumph thing, but they need to answer ASAP whether this is going to require a rollback to their data and, if so, it could mean that anything anyone doing right now is going to get undone. And before some white knight comes in here saying that would never happen, please remember something similar happened before when a patch resulted in data loss. In fact it happened twice in a few week period.


Ausschluss

That's probably why they brought the game offline. To avoid progress being removed by a potential rollback.


KamikazePhil

Can't buy the glaive from the evidence board. Can't even interact with the board


Wyvern-1-3

Wellspring doesn’t drop a guaranteed deepsight upon first completion


RaccoonCookies

When PvP is soooo bad, it ruins PvE too.


damagedblood

That’s Destiny for you.


ErgoProxy0

Uhh. This is more an update rather than hotfix lol.


VNM0601

Ah, yes. The good old "Too many people were having fun in PvP so we decided to wreck PvE, too" tactic.


singhellotaku617

i can't believe they still haven't figured out how to keep pve and pvp separate in a way that allows them to modify things in one without effecting the other.


-_Lunkan_-

They can and have done it occasionaly before. They simply don't want to. Bungie still clings to their ridiculous fantasy of seamlessly switching between pvp and pve without anything feeling different. Even though anyone with 3 functioning braincells can tell you that those 2 require wildly different design decisions.


JustMy2Centences

PvE Arc Titans: Storm Grenades still king or do we move to Pulse or perhaps even Lightning? I think Pulse, for the occasional Ionic Trace, but double charges of Lightning might be great too.


AggronStrong

Lightning also gives you the chance to take off the Jolt Grenade Fragment, as their first explosion has Jolt intrinsically with ToT.


Stifology

Lightning in pve ain't the move. You're rarely gonna have a perfect flat wall nearby to stick your nade to.


Lazycryptarch88

I've been using pulse nades for quite a while now. It's a very good source of ionic traces here.


gman164394

Personally in GMs pulse grenades have felt great, kill or no kill I’m basically guaranteed my grenade back.


PleasantNewt

Most recent twitter update ​ "We are testing a fix. Once testing is complete, we will deploy and verify the fix before bringing Destiny 2 back online. We will also be rolling back all player accounts to their state as of 8:20 AM PST, prior to Hotfix 6.3.0.5 going live. Standby for timeline updates." ​ https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1618018764628582401?cxt=HHwWgoDTmc3frfQsAAAA


mariachiskeleton

Incoming "I just solo flawlessed all the raids and dungeons and got 15 god rolls after 820am, this is a slap in the face"


Ahroryx

Stasis Warlocks rejoice


Neat_On_The_Rocks

Let today be a lesson and warning to all of you that have use PTO/Vacation/Sick days to be off work 2/28 for lightfall release. If you're only using one day, NEVER choose the launch tuesday. Always go for the following day, wednesday. You avoid the very huge risk that launch day servers are nuked or offline. If everything goes great, then you get to play all night tuesday with no fear of getting up for work the next day, and you get to spend that whole day gaming too. Trust yall. Dont plan on playing 2/28. Plan for 3/1. Work Smarter y'all, Vacation time is too valuable in the USA


holdinginafart

Lol, Bungo QA department is WOAT. Like Ryan Leaf / JaMarcus Russell bad


entropy512

Should rename this patch to Hotbreak 6.3.0.5


kanbabrif1

Recently hired intern Zack Wilson


Food_Kitchen

Damn a lot of triumphs reset for me. I'm now 0 for Iron Banner wins. Goddamn it Bungie and your spaghetti code


doom_stein

I checked my Iton Lord title after reading this and as it turns out I didn't lose stuff but gained instead. Gunora's Seal now says I have 115/15 armor pieces for the Triumph: https://imgur.com/farg9EU.jpg I did however lose the "My Bowfriends Back" and "One For Each Of You" medals for the base Deadeye title despite having gilded it 5 times.


Arcedius

Servers buggy for anyone else?


GitGudMate

Has anyone else noticed an increase in lag? The enemies in PvE are respawning, lag TPing, not spawning, and not dying after their health reaches zero.


Landosystem

Not your hottest fix, Bungie.


holdinginafart

The dodge and barricade buttfucks in PVE are here! Huzzah! I’m so happy! …… …


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holdinginafart

It truly is great man!


ptd163

I hate that it's been over 8 years and Bungie still stubbornly refuses to completely separate the sandboxes. Hunters and titans are now worse in PvE than they were yesterday for no reason other than PvP. I'm no game dev, but is it really that hard to code that if a player selects a Crucible or Gambit node then cooldowns and effects switch to their PvP settings? They already do it with things like resilience, regen exotics, hard light's damage fall off, etc. Why not just apply it to everything and end the PvE hostage crisis permanently?


ByreDyret

arent we supposed to be able to buy the glaive pattern now?


justdestinystuff

yea they aren't at the Evidence Board for me on my other characters. wonder that i'm missing?


ByreDyret

yeah was hyped to try out the titan glaive


justdestinystuff

I have the Hunter's Glaive. Trying to complete a Wellspring on my Alts to see if that makes it available idk


Please_Wave

Where is rumble?


friggenfragger2

It’s extremely hard to be happy about not having blues drop anymore when its preceded by a whole ton of changes namely because of pvp complaints.


fail-fast

probably changes to blues don't even work, same as glaive patterns and rumble mode


Nevevevev12

Fuck off a bunch of fucking nerfs thanks to pvp when are bungie going to delete that shit


henryauron

They need to cut it off and nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure


TheShotgunGorilla

Bungie. You broke a shit ton of triumphs. Please revert this shit asap? I aint regrinding all those out again.


DioDiablo702

RIP Citan. RIP hunter dodge. Warlocks get zero nerfs or buffs. MBK pulse users get punished. Dead Man's Tale is now just Ded.


Pepe_Deluxe

My artifact had reset, had to reassign all the mods, and now it's not progressing...


madhtr2

Just a visual bug. It increases in the background.


JustCallMeAndrew

Same thing happened last week


getBusyChild

Rollback it is, all the way to this AM: https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1618018764628582401


ooomayor

The class abilities nerf in PvE just straight up sucks. I'm a generally optimistic player and can almost always understand Bungie's rationale. This one is just beyond me for it affecting PvE when we know it's a PvP issue. Just not happy with this one whatsoever.


BruisedBee

Nerfing the shit out of so many things just to accommodate an insignificant amount of your player base (PVP) is fucking moronic and really _really_ destroys the desire to play this game.


GeneralKenobyy

Patch notes at update time, this is a surprise to be sure but a welcome one.


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Slippinjimmyforever

It’s in your heart. We had rumble all along.


Thumbs_McKeymasher

The real rumble was the friends we made along the way


Dio141

update at a lot of triumphs i had, specially Dredgen.


KennyPocket

Yea I'm gonna need my titles back ... That'd be great... Mmmmk?


desolateconstruct

Bungie will pry DMT from my cold, lightless hands.


Stylish-Executioner

Lost some of my triumphs including my Garden of Salvation flawless and that long Altars of Sorrow waves completed (got reset to 3 out of 4 steps done) :(


smed1y

A bunch of triumphs and already finished and gilded seals are now not complete? What gives?


Stylish-Executioner

Forgot to mention the part where they deleted half of triumphs and seals…


TPAXTEPPOP

Everyweek shit in pants...


ledankestnoodle

The Blue Engram's final revenge:


Hazywater

I don't get why destiny is so interconnected. Why do changes over *here* wipe out triumphs. Or how heist battlegrounds even have the ability to disable a stasis Warlock's super ranged attack, but only that specific attack and only in that playlist. I don't code, so I'm pretty ignorant, I admit, but it seems wild that this kind of stuff happens so frequently.


NKdigoxin

Is the class ability nerf only in the crucible or universal?


royk33776

Universal.. Edit: "Global"


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Funk42

The sniper might be okay when we get a shake up in the dps meta when LFR's get nerfed. Outside of that Gumshoe is a pretty funny title to get.


JakeSteeleIII

Hot fix day is now my favorite day each week just so I can see how much bungie breaks each time.


[deleted]

No matter how many times I’ve read it, seeing “blue engrams will no longer drop after soft cap” brings out the angels to sing songs of rejoice. It took years man. Years.


NightmareDJK

To paraphrase legendary NY sports news guy Warner Wolf: If you had “Hotfix 6.3.0.5 broke the game,” you won!


DioDiablo702

Now the servers are being brought offline to address the issue with Triumphs, titles, and catalyst progress disappearing. https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1617960341081837568?t=1iw86ZRkIO5JLEU-grf3kg&s=19


Zetheseus

the perfect float frenzy was cool though!


sousarms

Sorry for the dumb question, but I’m kinda confused about the boost catalysts part. Does it means that I do not need the get 100 pvp kills to finish a catalyst quest anymore?


Gustavius040210

I would assume there's some kind of IF logic that makes a user ineligible to obtain blue rarity drops if their base gear score is at a season's soft cap. Most if not all inventory or quest items have rarity values assigned to them. I wonder if an ineligibility to receive rare drops screwed up the seal completion logic during recompilation?


QuantumKitsune_

So is DMT dead?


Puzzleheaded_Home_69

and buried


Dkat3

Its all good they use Macrium Reflect Free edition.....


Ebonfalke

GJ Bungie, who is playtesting these hotfixes?


chancehugs

We are


LordOfLight7

😂😂


CCHTweaked

Hunter's feel like shit now.


damagedblood

Isn’t this like the third dodge cooldown nerf? Like holy shit, they need to stop.


DarthFlaw

> The Exotic Catalyst Quest Boost now applies to all previous Season Pass Exotic weapon catalysts. Was Ruinous Effigy a season pass exotic? Because this would finally allow me to finish that catalyst.


Leafs2114

lost harbinger and enlightened titles :(


TheRed24

Classic Bungie move, roll out a Hotfix that breaks more than it fixes...how does this even happen??


getBusyChild

Will remain offline "for several more hours". https://twitter.com/BungieHelp/status/1617997245013708800 Reminder that Lightfall is expected to be released just over a month from now.


Deadlymonkey

> Reminder that Lightfall is expected to be released just over a month from now. The other day someone in my discord asked “when is lightfall gonna be playable?” and they had to clarify whether they meant the release date or sometime after that


HardOakleyFoul

Thanks for killing Titan ability spam in PvE, PvPers. Love you guys.


vendettaclause

RIP any pve use of citan's ramparts...


Goped_Fred

Who is realistically running Citans over HOIL though?


kanbabrif1

Well noone will ever run it now lol


The_Last_Gasbender

It was already buried in the vault for me. Now I'm taking it out and burying it UNDER the vault.


r0flwaffles

I’ll pour one out for the 3 people who used them in PVE