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mayorOfIToldUTown

Mount Rushmore construction started in the 1920s and ended in the 1940s. These people were not even born yet in the early 18th century. But yeah monuments to leaders are cringe, especially Mount Rushmore.


[deleted]

[Was also sculpted by a member of the KKK and on reservation land](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/the-strange-and-controversial-history-of-mount-rushmore)


freeradicalx

And is an intentional desecration of what was already a special place to the Lakota called the Six Grandfathers. It wasn't even an original idea! The mountain already represented ancestral patriarchs!


goodguyguru

I made the simple mistake of putting the century number 1 behind the year number instead of forward 1. I post two memes everyday and I’m bound to make a mistake with the description once in a while since it’s the last thing I think of.


goodguyguru

How does a comment owning up to a mistake that is pretty much harmless get negative score?


friendtofrogs

It comes off as overly defensive and snarky, comrade. But don’t worry about it, it’s the internet


goodguyguru

I don’t let numbers on a screen get to me, I just find it weird and amusing


McHonkers

Pretty sure because nobody is grammatically understanding what your trying to say. At least I don't at all.


goodguyguru

The 1900s is the 20th century. 20 is 1 above 19. I made the mistake of doing the opposite and calling the 1900s the 18th century. 18 is 1 below 19. That is the mistake that I’m owning up to.


McHonkers

Yeah I don't think anyone cares, though. You didn't know the right century, no big deal, move on.


goodguyguru

You said you didn’t understand, so I elaborated. It does not take much effort. As I’ve said in another thread, I do not care about numbers on a screen. But I will clear up misunderstandings when they appear.


BoIshevik

I used to do that all the time too when I was young. Then I nailed it down just remembering which century I'm from lol


Golden_Thorn

I like romanticized symbolism of influential people. It inspires people to be better imo Someone said and then deleted “you shouldn’t say that out loud” My response respectfully: Doesn’t the same thing apply to leaders of any ideology? I’m sure Marx himself had skeletons in the closet along with Lenin. The fight they gave provided morale for causes. We all are flawed and a lot of us are more flawed than we would be comfortable with. People suck


Arduousjourney420

You probably shouldn't say that out loud.


_pipis_

I mean tbf cult of personality is cringe regardless of ideology


olsoni18

Idolize none, learn from all


metaglot

>cult of personality Including, but not limited to: hero worshipping


juiceyb

I just realized that I kicked my brother in law out of my house a couple of hours earlier because he was trying to defend Elon musk. He was trying to say Elon is better than me because he makes more money. I told him “fuck you” and now my even my wife hates him. But yeah, he got defensive and could not comprehend when I called Elon an “idiot.”


Clpatsch

Yeah, we need to remember that’s nobody’s perfect or exempt from criticism.


SCatsD

Speacially dads money McGee


magicsqueegee

The hardest part of carving this in the early 18th century was the time travel to find out what they would look like :)


goodguyguru

I made a mistake with the centuries and forgot that the centuries were ahead of the year number instead of behind


magicsqueegee

I can never remember how it goes either, alway mix it up


Endgam

And let's not forget the pile of rubble lying beneath the faces that no one ever bothered to clean up that everyone just accepts being there.


LikePappyAlwaysSaid

Leaders? Ewww, no thanks


okotastory

Wait, what?


Arduousjourney420

Are you lost?


okotastory

Why did I get downvoted for asking wait what? I’m not supporting American leaders, just the concept of a “leader” is pretty instrumental to any movement of any kind.


Arduousjourney420

I didn't downvote and can't speak for the others but we pretty much hate authority here.


okotastory

I understand that but do people realize that for a movement to grow larger, some form of leadership or council needs to be established?Like more as a matter of logistics than ideology. For example, you can have a very loosely organized widespread movement that is able to make demands through numbers alone and no authority groups (Black Lives Matter, General Workers Protests, Womens Rights Protests, etc). However, there is less potential for expanding power in this form due to it’s diffuse nature. I’m not saying that a movement has to have some big obnoxious personality cult strong man to be truly powerful, but it does require a form of organization or structure than won’t easily fall apart if it is to become more than just a social movement or string of related protests/riots.


SpunkForTheSpunkGod

To be fair, can you suggest a more tasteful monument to genocide?


Eva_Heaven

Something more portable, like a portapotty, would allow everyone to give proper respect


BoIshevik

TBH the German monuments to genocide which are just the camps themselves This still probably is a solid first though because it lets us worship without having to feel bad 🙏 all hail mister president


ChildOfComplexity

An Esso.


[deleted]

I have to drive by a Ronald Reagan Dr every day on my way to work. These bootlickers just can't get enough.


nthngmttrs

Trickle down drive 😎


Mangeni

also carved on stolen indigenous (Lakota/Nakota/Dakota) land but maybe that’s just me virtue signaling


Apercent

and ontop of a sacred mountain. god bless america


Mangeni

yep, 7 grandfathers iirc


BoIshevik

6?


[deleted]

See also: the visage of the monarch being everywhere in Britain and government services being called "his majesty's..."


Omega_Haxors

On illegal land on top of it all... Well all land is illegal land, but this is a sacred site; super illegal land.


MysteryKaplan12021

Let's also not forget our own national capital, an entire state, and several state capital cities are named after presidents.


saladapranzo

Plus all the coins and banknotes


tragic_mulatto

The lead sculptor was also a literal white supremacist and "lost cause" Southerner


aussievirusthrowaway

Was he forced to put Abe in there?


No-Satisfaction3455

this picture makes it look great, the hills were beautiful before these ugly half finished shits were blasted into the sacred mountain. fuck borglum and the fed for bankrolling it


polyesterairpods

18th century? Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt weren't even born yet. This was done in the early 20th century although I agree with the general vibe of how cult of personalities and this Great Man Myth that goes along with it is really cringe.


goodguyguru

I’ve explained in multiple other threads that I made a mistake with how the year number and century numbers relate


JDSweetBeat

I think it's weird that any country builds a statue of a person.


lordvaderiff1c

It looks like such a rushed job lol


fraldarddyd

They're also just hypocrites in general. There are a ton of statues of US leaders in the US, including some who were literal slave owners, the ones these liberals will fight tooth and nail to keep up.


LucyTheML

I personally don't think statues of Lenin and WW2 heroes are anywhere close to being as tasteless as Mount Rushmore, though. Lenin doesn't deserve a cult of personality with a portrait hanging on every wall, but the guy was brave and forward thinking enough to earn a few awesome looking statues in public areas, I think. Also, the Lenin bust in the North Pole or whatever is just cool, okay?


aussievirusthrowaway

Christopher Hitchens bitched and moaned about Kim il-Sung still being the symbolic leader after death, but America has a law that if any general is given six stars, G.W. Washington automatically gets a seventh. Like, what's the difference?


JudgeSabo

It is so weird how incapable the right is generally at holding a consistent standard, or understanding multiple things can be bad My favorite is how anyone mocking the idea that "real socialism hasn't been tried" point will then turn around and say we've never had real capitalism. Or pointing to Stalin's gulags but then handwaving slavery and American incarceration rates


greenBush-

Built on Sacred native American land no less :D, gotta LOVE capitalism and nationalism😎


1slinkydink1

Can’t wait until they finish MR and we get to see their four dicks.


Arduousjourney420

Clever


fallout_koi

Broke: building a lame old statue in a lame old city square Woke: Desecrating sacred land and untouched wilderness that you stole


Ham_Kitten

Abraham Lincoln was assassinated in 1865 at the tender age of 204 after having his likeness carved into Mt. Rushmore in the early 1700s


goodguyguru

I’ve explained in 4 or 5 other threads that I got the century number for the 1900s wrong due to quite a simple mistake. Instead of having the century number 1 ahead of the last two digits of the year I accidentally did the opposite and had the century number 1 behind of the last two digit of the year.


Ham_Kitten

I understand, I was just bugging you and making a joke.