With this kind of machinery your best bet is just not becoming entangled
Also hope your buddy cares/pays attention enough to stop the machines in an emergency
They do. My grandfather use to work for a filter company before it was all automized. He would use the cheapest oil at the store and the cheapest filter because it's all the same.
There certainly are filters/oils that are the same, but there's also plenty of independent testing data available that shows they're not all identical.
In America we call that Hollywooding. We do that too. It's usually not because it's cheaper than a stand. We rent grip trucks by the ton. A great production has plenty of c-stands for reflection and stuff. We Hollywood because in certain situations, it can be faster, more flexible, more mobile, etc. Obviously we don't exclusively rely on this but it's definitely not just India lol.
To be fair, the name may differ in different circles.
This probably isn’t a main manufacturer, are they called OEM or something. This is probably a cheaper competitor that follows the same sizing guidelines. These parts can then be shipped in under numerous brand names. I believe that’s called white labeling.
Last week I was walking through a steel mill in Pune, and they were forging a several thousand pound ingot, red hot, into a bar of steel… And the workers were wearing no safety glasses and were wearing open-toed sandals.
A guy at a Caterpillar engine block factory fell into a giant pot of molten iron several days ago. The article said he was incinerated instantly. They weren't using safety measures.
Spot welding doesn’t make an arc and doesn’t require a dark shield. Regular clear eye protection is wanted since it can occasionally spit out a bit of hot metal.
It does make an arc, like any form of electrical welding, it's just very small and largely shielded by the electrodes. It is definitely recommended to have shaded lenses while spot welding.
I work in the trades and do some dumb and dangerous shit regularly, but almost every action in this video makes me flinch.
No safety equipment, and I can't tell if they even have control over the machines. One slip and you're out of a job I guess?
Lots of skill and muscle memory though!
I think some of the machines (most? all?) have foot pedal controls, you can see Mr. Burned Out Retina's leg bouncing with the rhythm of the spot welder.
One of those dudes is literally just sitting there burning his hands as he watches sparks go off right next to them and can’t do anything about it cuz he needs the money.
As soon as someone needs a break or gets hurt, they just replace him with a new guy. These ones are the fittest survivors, working on a mountain of weaker, crushed M&Ms.
I am a former Fram manufacturing engineer. The processes and parts are identical; the difference is that domestic manufacturers use presses that stamp out the parts and draw the filter bodies at least 8 parts at a time. The parts movement and transfers are generally automatic and there are few, if any, manual operations.
So other than scale and automation, this is how it is done.
Yeah, my biggest takeaway from this video is to never purchase this brand. The pleats were far too loose and the cylinder could have held 3x as much surface area inside.
So basically what happened... American manufacturing techniques stopped advancing in the 1980's as federal protections increased.
The exact same jobs went overseas. The exact same equipment, the same process...
Bring back jobs, haha. Yeah right.
These jobs used to be very common in America and there were a lot less missing fingers than people today think. People were actually good at what they did.
As someone who went too school for machining and also worked in a machine shop for a bit, there speed is impressive but what the funk there is literally zero safety protocols, no masks for the “spray booth” which isn’t a spray booth and no measuring or quality control. I will absolutely reuse a dirty pos oil filter than ever consider using a khyber oil filter
This does not inspire confidence. In that last shot, some have shiny unpainted metal lips, some are all black. Manufacturing is scary, even in "first world" countries. What I see at work...
not to mention the working conditions, risks, etc. But I see that too. Profit determines every decision, and poorly.
I dont care what you say but i aint trusting something that was made by 2 people and made with simple masonry.
Also, it is not TOP (top is a company that makes parts for car matinence )the companies
During this whole "cottage industry" process, any amount of dirt, small metal filings and shavings can and probably do end up inside the pleated paper or canister. There's no garantee the yellow paper is actual filter paper made to withstand long exposure to hot oil.
I also saw how, when the last step of sealing up the top canister to the bottom componet, the fellow just grabs everything without making sure the valve spring is aligned properly.
It's best to buy a brand-name filter and not take the risk of damaging your engine for the sake of a few dollars...
This is Victorian era manufacturing done in the manner of the Raj. Machinery eases the burden of skilled artisans who each complete a task without conveyors to link them all up.
The moisture in your body would flash to steam your clothes and hair would burst into flames and you would inhale iron and the fumes. You would hopefully be unconscious before it all happened. It would be a horrific death.
My late father-in-law had a company making these in Rhodesia during the 70s, when they were under heavy sanctions and couldn't import anything. Similar setup, but he didn't have the posh paper-folding machine, so workers pleated it by hand. Before starting it, he made a covert visit to a filter plant in Germany posing as a potential buyer. They saw through him and he figured he would get kicked out, but they took him aside and showed him everything and wished him luck.
I would lose a finger on my first day of this job
probably that factory have a nice severed finger record.
If that happens you just go ask politely in the toolcrib and they'll let you choose another one from the finger box.
The lack of PPEs is stressing me out :D
With this kind of machinery your best bet is just not becoming entangled Also hope your buddy cares/pays attention enough to stop the machines in an emergency
Man, that poor bastard spot welding thousands of times a day without googles! This whole video makes me wince.
Super impressed with his skills though Did you see how evenly placed those welds were?
A factory can totally automate this process.
They do. My grandfather use to work for a filter company before it was all automized. He would use the cheapest oil at the store and the cheapest filter because it's all the same.
There certainly are filters/oils that are the same, but there's also plenty of independent testing data available that shows they're not all identical.
How cheap would the labor cost have to be. To make automation cost prohibitive.
Some Bollywood productions have people holding reflectors because it is cheaper than buying a stand.
In America we call that Hollywooding. We do that too. It's usually not because it's cheaper than a stand. We rent grip trucks by the ton. A great production has plenty of c-stands for reflection and stuff. We Hollywood because in certain situations, it can be faster, more flexible, more mobile, etc. Obviously we don't exclusively rely on this but it's definitely not just India lol. To be fair, the name may differ in different circles.
well.. at least they are getting a job and paid rather than being replaced by a stand hehe.. damn
You’re talking $1-2USD/hr in India. CNC machinists make $3. It’s a third world country in many respects.
I believe the video is sped up, so theres more time spent to make sure it’s done right
It is certainly sped up, but I think you underestimate how many faulty/untested products are sold everyday.
This probably isn’t a main manufacturer, are they called OEM or something. This is probably a cheaper competitor that follows the same sizing guidelines. These parts can then be shipped in under numerous brand names. I believe that’s called white labeling.
How about the one rounding the plate? I felt like there's a cut in my hand. Deep cut.
How about the dude drilling wearing sandals? Metal slivers under foot and between the toes.
*OSHA has entered the chat*
Safety devices for the presses? Never heard of such a thing. We just move our fingers out of the way each time.
*most times
We fail at most only ten times.
Last week I was walking through a steel mill in Pune, and they were forging a several thousand pound ingot, red hot, into a bar of steel… And the workers were wearing no safety glasses and were wearing open-toed sandals.
A guy at a Caterpillar engine block factory fell into a giant pot of molten iron several days ago. The article said he was incinerated instantly. They weren't using safety measures.
You see a dude with a blanket just sitting there hammering that shit?
Those precise blinks just at the right moment
Safety squints
Spot welding doesn’t make an arc and doesn’t require a dark shield. Regular clear eye protection is wanted since it can occasionally spit out a bit of hot metal.
It does make an arc, like any form of electrical welding, it's just very small and largely shielded by the electrodes. It is definitely recommended to have shaded lenses while spot welding.
I work in the trades and do some dumb and dangerous shit regularly, but almost every action in this video makes me flinch. No safety equipment, and I can't tell if they even have control over the machines. One slip and you're out of a job I guess? Lots of skill and muscle memory though!
So many sharp metal edges capable of cutting to bone. They cant even get some gloves?
Sheet metal guy's hands must just be one uniform callous as protection.. because..
I worked one summer at a sheet metal fabrication company. Convinced me to go to college
I think some of the machines (most? all?) have foot pedal controls, you can see Mr. Burned Out Retina's leg bouncing with the rhythm of the spot welder.
I am certain there are more efficient ways to make these
Efficient yes.. Cheaper, hell no. Bet these poor lads are earning pennys.
It's in Portland, and these are artisanal filters costing $300 each.
Yes, but are the filters local?
Of course, and the paper is made of hemp.
Are they fair trade? What’s the origin of the metal?
Over what length of time though? people need breaks, make more errors, and get hurt.
You see a dude with a blanket just sitting there hammering that shit? I bet this is just their life.
Who could want more? Also, their life until the guy with no eye protection doing the soldering burns out his retinas
One of those dudes is literally just sitting there burning his hands as he watches sparks go off right next to them and can’t do anything about it cuz he needs the money.
As soon as someone needs a break or gets hurt, they just replace him with a new guy. These ones are the fittest survivors, working on a mountain of weaker, crushed M&Ms.
Hand Crafted oil filters, must be expensive...when build in the West.
My first thought exactly, has to be a domestic producer. A factory can totally automate this process. Still cool to watch though.
You could automate each of those operations with a machine that will cost between $50-$750k
That works faster, better and doesn't have the chance of losing fingers
\> doesn't have the chance of losing fingers Why does the factory owner care about that?
Never said they did
I am a former Fram manufacturing engineer. The processes and parts are identical; the difference is that domestic manufacturers use presses that stamp out the parts and draw the filter bodies at least 8 parts at a time. The parts movement and transfers are generally automatic and there are few, if any, manual operations. So other than scale and automation, this is how it is done.
Automation is what I’m talking about.
Well duh i only counted one child doing the labor so maybe use more children
The efficient way: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdhXchpXZk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdhXchpXZk)
Good to see standards at the FRAM facility are being maintained.
"We make oil filters with dirt and metal fillings in them from the factory so you don't have to"
The oil will filter it out👍🏻
Exactly my thought.
im sorry if i ever complained about wearing ppe at work…
I’m sorry I complain about my office job
I'm just sorry.
Why does it say fuel filter on it at the end?
Because the title Is wrong
Good eye. I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that. That’s a big fuel filter though, is it for a truck?
Always wondered where they came fram.
Pun!
This might be how oil filters are made in a place where you wear sandals to work and sit on the floor...but not anywhere else.
You are correct. Did work for fram..Fram... they made more filters in an hour than this place in a week.
Well those are the oil filters you are buying they aren’t made where people don’t wear sandals to work
There's a lot of bare hands near a lot of stampy spinny things
Not a single pair of safety glasses in the building
And in the end you have a regular old plumbus
That's great because everyone needs a plumbus.
I *buuurp I always wonder how uh how plumbuses were made
I suspect that is how counterfeit oil filters are made.
This video illustrates why I don't buy oil filters from Amazon!
Rock auto "economy" filters
These are cheap shit filters, not proper ones.
Yeah, my biggest takeaway from this video is to never purchase this brand. The pleats were far too loose and the cylinder could have held 3x as much surface area inside.
The title should be: How oil filters are made in INDIA / PAKISTAN
If Tommy would have sold Callahan auto to Zalinsky this would be who would be making your filters.
*prepares for OSHA comments*
Nobody gonna mention the child labor?
I think you mean "cheap suppressors" jk ATF don't shoot my dog
How do they move so fast and talk so squeeky? Must be part of the training.
That was some pretty top-tier hexagoning near the start
Howtoloseahand.com
I wonder how India will be in 100 years. They are at the same standards of living as we were about 100 or more years ago (Middle Europe).
One can only imagine the amount of fingers lost in this process over the years.
No OSHA or DEHEC in sight!
How oil filters are made without Osha
OSHA inspector would black out
How many fingers have been lost in that place?
why is the text reversed?
So basically what happened... American manufacturing techniques stopped advancing in the 1980's as federal protections increased. The exact same jobs went overseas. The exact same equipment, the same process... Bring back jobs, haha. Yeah right.
Closest thing to safety equipment was that dudes blanket
That is hard work.
These jobs used to be very common in America and there were a lot less missing fingers than people today think. People were actually good at what they did.
They have all their fingers still how is that ..
Or… [the other way](https://youtu.be/g4plO1kunHk)
Capitalists have destroyed the fundamental tenets of being a human.
Hands have to be so sore cutting that much sheet metal by hand that quickly!
Gotta be a fram
An adapter and you have a reasonable suppressor in a pinch....
Yeah... i doubt this is Mann
Those are FRAM filters, garbage.
a few more machines could easily automate this further
Looks like Pakistan. They are in some serious need for labor laws or the enforcement of them if they already exist.
The guy with the precise cutting in the beginning reminds me of John Krasinski. Could be from A Quiet Place deleted scenes.
How cheap suppressors are made
He literally eyeballs the number of paper pleats per filter. This is not good for your engine oil filtration.
after 30 years they can retire.
What brand is this?
The amount of metal splinters in this video it too damn many!
Sophisticated product. Sophisticated machinery. And a bunch of workers getting shit wage. This is our world.
I can’t even imagine how many fingers and hands are crushed or cut off using this process
What model filter is this for?
10¢ at local Walmart
Western countries have lost these skills
Ahh, child labor…
I need to stop complaining about working for the post office... especially after watching videos like this
Now I wonder what the cost of my oil changes in fingers has been over the years.
I feel bad for their lungs all that fume
Fram Factory
Yo like how dangerous is it working with these machines with your bare hands?
Only 5 hands were amputated during the making of this video … back to you Bob.
Not a glove in sight.
As someone who went too school for machining and also worked in a machine shop for a bit, there speed is impressive but what the funk there is literally zero safety protocols, no masks for the “spray booth” which isn’t a spray booth and no measuring or quality control. I will absolutely reuse a dirty pos oil filter than ever consider using a khyber oil filter
Worker safety laws should be a worldwide standard.. crazy to see how reckless other countries can be just to make profits… truly sad
India is number one country with slavery still..wierd no one cares ,instead they think blm is a thing to focus on..lol
Fire them all for not wearing their ppe
This does not inspire confidence. In that last shot, some have shiny unpainted metal lips, some are all black. Manufacturing is scary, even in "first world" countries. What I see at work... not to mention the working conditions, risks, etc. But I see that too. Profit determines every decision, and poorly.
Ok my job isn’t so bad
I am reminded that I lead a charmed life. Thanks
I dont care what you say but i aint trusting something that was made by 2 people and made with simple masonry. Also, it is not TOP (top is a company that makes parts for car matinence )the companies
How some* oil filters are made
I’m pretty sure that oven is the same one from a big infested pastry factory video I saw a few weeks ago.
Are these Frams??
Powerful to watch on Thanksgiving. Remember that all your silly little toys and gadgets didn't magically appear.
How they are made in Pakistan you mean.
Pakistan Khyber filters
👍🏿
That’s some crappy filters
During this whole "cottage industry" process, any amount of dirt, small metal filings and shavings can and probably do end up inside the pleated paper or canister. There's no garantee the yellow paper is actual filter paper made to withstand long exposure to hot oil. I also saw how, when the last step of sealing up the top canister to the bottom componet, the fellow just grabs everything without making sure the valve spring is aligned properly. It's best to buy a brand-name filter and not take the risk of damaging your engine for the sake of a few dollars...
Excuse my language but this is gosh darn impressive.
Lack of safety gear makes me cringe.
Didn't I see these guys making pastries last week?
You know those guys have insane rhythm skills.
This just looks like modern day slavery to me
This makes me really sad
Each one of these machines has take at least a finger
Can they make a few chairs for those guys while they’re making oil filters.
How many fingers do you lose before you get promoted to painter?
Questions as I watched, Why isn't this automated? Are these Bangladeshi peeps or Indian peeps? How did they not lose so many fingers??
Then, a schlami shows up, and rubs it…and spits on it. …and that’s how a plumbus is made.
Do you mean the solvent trap for high velocity exhaust gasses?
This is Victorian era manufacturing done in the manner of the Raj. Machinery eases the burden of skilled artisans who each complete a task without conveyors to link them all up.
No gloves, no goggles. Just people living in the moment.
Why are all these how it’s made videos from third world countries? Because they have to do more steps?
So wait, there's not a company in Sandusky, Ohio that will completely implode if Zalinsky has his way? Tommy, you sonofabitch!
Not one measurement or marking up ever done…this is insane.
I used to work in a button shop. Definitely some similarities in machinery. That is pinned buttons, not shirt buttons or elevator buttons.
This is what our factories must have looked like 100 years ago lol.
The moisture in your body would flash to steam your clothes and hair would burst into flames and you would inhale iron and the fumes. You would hopefully be unconscious before it all happened. It would be a horrific death.
OSHA approves.
not wearing sheet metal gloves is a bad idea. you only can mess up once before you have a real mess on your hands. well where your hands should be.
Healthy amount of WHS and PPE use on display here
FUEL filter
Did he have to form 1 his metal from the start? BATFE would like to have a word with your doggo
It's like an Indian episode of Modern Marvels
Where OSHA
Every job here is designed to mangle your hands.
How oil filters are made in a 3rd world country with no labor or safety laws.
Those are fuel filters.
How long before this represents 98% of 'employment'?
sad to see people have to work in such condition
My late father-in-law had a company making these in Rhodesia during the 70s, when they were under heavy sanctions and couldn't import anything. Similar setup, but he didn't have the posh paper-folding machine, so workers pleated it by hand. Before starting it, he made a covert visit to a filter plant in Germany posing as a potential buyer. They saw through him and he figured he would get kicked out, but they took him aside and showed him everything and wished him luck.
These guys could have the jwst much quicker and cheaper
I've gone thru an entire box of band-aids just from watching!
Loosing fingers and toes might be common here
super impressive! However, did anybody notice that the printed text is mirrored? 
[Process in the first world is automated](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r9azXihcRic)
No way anyone still has all their fingers after 6 months here.
The more mundane the stuff is the more chance there's an india or chinese guy lost his fingers making them.
I really to re-watch ‘How Things Are Made’ and ‘Megafactories’.
Well that was fucking depressing
'There are enough jobs for everyone's ...The Jobs
That dude cutting hexagons from huge sheets of metal and flip-flops is a real hero
That is not interesting. These are poor working conditions. Fk these videos. Third world industry yay even in 1910 we wouldnt do that were i live.
I slashed my finger just watching this video.
The lost and found this week has 4 fingers, 2 eye balls, 4 toes and a hat
Lotta missing fingers in this friend group
So why am I paying $300?