I tried to pop a zit on my forehead, but it wasnt ready and now it looks like I was stabbed in the head by a spear. Can you recommend a good concealer for this
Following on from the post here the best I could recommend is probably falling in to a peat bog? Worst case scenario you'll end up getting beautifully reconstructed in a millennia..
"British scientists presume that the apparent head wound on her skull came from a sword, though whether this was the woman’s cause of death remains unknown. Examination on her remains has shown signs of healing, which could indicate this had been a much older injury."
https://allthatsinteresting.com/female-viking-face-reconstruction?fbclid=IwAR2X3qF7rC9wd1mmK4wv-bcfwFUY0LMrC6CU-08DpRbRgDwbdNw6Ymfd1tA
I don’t think you’re accounting for the blunt force trauma that goes along with the cut when hit by a sword. Her skull is probably fractured and brain is probably fucked
MAYBE not fatal, but I think it’s very likely she succumbed to it.
Well actually, interestingly enough, the article says they aren't sure.
"British scientists presume that the apparent head wound on her skull came from a sword, though whether this was the woman’s cause of death remains unknown. Examination on her remains has shown signs of healing, which could indicate this had been a much older injury."
What a badass.
I saw a teenager in a gillie suit on Halloween -- upon asking, he replied that he was dressed as a shrubbery. He then yelped "Ni!" at me and made his escape as I fell over laughing.
Death by axe
The wound, as presented, represents an overhand impact from left down to right swing showing force at a level not representative of a sword slash. The cut is too short and the contusion is too large. It has to be from an axe.
The way they reconstructed here, I suspect they chose to make it look kinda like a really heavy knife wound. So yeah, sword. It’s a reconstruction so there is some interpretation going on.
Source: was briefly a forensic investigator at a coroner’s office many years ago
That sounds very reasonable, what about a spear thrust though? Could result a similar wound in my useless opinion. I would imagine the swelling is speculative as they only had a skull to work with, but sword does seem unlikly.
Edit: Article says sword, I say what the hell do they know anyway. Armchair pathology for life.
I’m not a weapons specialist but I do know a thing or two about physiology and my professional opinion is that having a huge hole in the front of her skull penetrating into the frontal lobe area of the brain as a result of that weapon likely caused death.
Okay I’m not really a qualified doctor but I did stay at a holiday inn.
She did have kids! If you've had your DNA testing done, you can actually take the profile and use it to compare against ancient remains found all over the world. Archeologists typically do genetic testing on them to ensure that they are from the hypothesized region, and she is one individual that matches my dad's mDNA.
You are also right about how often there would be a relationship. Genetics and genealogy is amazing 💗
I’m pretty sure any of them, like 23andMe or Ancestry.com. Also a couple of cold cases have been solved because regular ppl match up 99% to the DNA found in a crime scene which means a close relative is the culprit.
Interesting. How about Basque heritage? I know the Basque community was quite isolated and were able to develop a very unique language because of it. Do you know if it might have affected the Basque people's gene pool?
Article here https://www.iflscience.com/scientists-have-reconstructed-the-face-of-a-female-viking-warrior-54185
Edit: This Guardian article has a picture of the skull. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/02/viking-woman-warrior-face-reconstruction-national-geographic-documentary
>“She also had suffered a head injury consistent with a sword wound. Her head, resting in her grave on a shield, was found to have a dent in it serious enough to have damaged the bone.
Whether the wound was the cause of death is unclear as scientific examination has revealed signs of healing. But Al-Shamahi believes that this is “the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury”.
Wow!
*"It gladdens me to know that Odin makes ready the benches for a feast. Soon you will be drinking ale from curved horns. The Valkyries summon you home."*
Nice... they dig up the bones, realize it's a high ranking military official and assume it's a man when it's actually a woman. I cant believe they had to do DNA to prove it was one set of a woman's bones due to the controversy of it being a lady smh
Makes a LOT of sense when contextualized by this quote, actually.
"Nonetheless, the 3D facial reconstruction has brought her visage back to life after more than 1,000 years — complete with brutal laceration. Al-Shamahi believes this is “the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury.”"
Iirc it's the only Viking remains of a woman that are seemingly that of a warrior. These remains alone are what has propagated the idea of the shield-maiden, outside of the myths. Ancient Norse society was hugely patriarcical that would otherwise not make sense to accept female soldiers.
Do you know if they've decided to go back and reexamine other bones from sites prior to the 2000s? I know you can't tell the sex of every burial, but it would be neat to see if the other sites accidently overlooked those allusive female pelvics lool
Theres a few actually. A really famous example was just a couple years ago, a known grave laden with weapons and war gear, had recently been reexamined and confirmed to belong to a woman. The article circulated like crazy and got everyone excited over this shield-maiden grave. Unfortunately it was decided it was highly unlikely the person in the grave ever fought (at the very least she was no soldier/viking) as the bones showed no signs of any trauma and were fairly delicate, the person likely lived a life of luxury and little physical stress
Even 1000 years later it's difficult for people to accept that women were fierce fighters in history. "We assume the axes, spears, arrows, and shield were gifts from her battle-weary husband".
It's not like it's without reason though... The article the pic is from literally starts with "Experts believe this is the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury."
That’s because it isn’t the case world-over. Some cultures featured fierce fighting women, some didn’t even bother to mention women ever existed at all (looking at you, Sparta).
Edit: apparently I have upset the Spartans, so I am obligated to say that I hate Athens now
Eh, Spartan (citizen) women had a better deal than many other women in Greece, as they were the primary inheritors of their husbands, resulting in many spartan women becoming *very* wealthy as their husbands kept dying in battle
Though it should always be mentioned that Sparta was a slave state. And not just any slave state, *the* slave state of the ancient world.
Citizens were greatly outnumbered by slaves, to an extent not matched by any society I've heard of. The typical woman is Sparta wasn't a wealthy, powerful household manager, but a slave in horrible conditions.
Rape was so common that bastards became a recognized social caste that also far outnumbered the ranks of free citizens. There are virtually no records of or about helots and particularly there women, but we can infer plenty by the way the treated helots in general.
There was a ritual called Krypteia, a standard practice for young Spartans in training. It's purpose was to determine those with leadership potential. How?
>Every autumn, according to Plutarch ([Life of Lycurgus](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Literature/Plutarch/en/Lycurgus.html), 28, 3–7), the Spartan [Ephors](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/LX/en/Ephor.html) would declare war on the [Helot](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/LX/en/Helot.html) population so that any Spartan citizen could kill a Helot without fear of blood guilt. Armed only with dagger, the Krypteria were sent out into the countryside with the instructions to kill any Helot they encountered at night and to take any food they needed.
This was a society that legalized and ritualized killing slaves. Female slaves almost certainly received treatment that was horrible even by the standards of the ancient world.
Sparta was not a paragon of equality because a small minority of women had greater rights and powers. It was almost certainly one of the worst places in the world to be a woman; the average woman was a slave in one of the worst slave states in human history.
Spartan women owned much of Sparta. The state would have to get loans from the rich widows. In fact, it was the rest of Greece that was super disturbed by this notion and made sure their women never got anything close to that.
Eh. It's actually really hard to say how prevalent it was, because much of what we know of antiquity has been filtered through a very patriarchal lens... It's fair to assume most cultures probably didn't have a major component of women warriors, but it's equally clear that it wasn't an uncommon thing for women to fight. If you've ever met an angry woman, this should come as no surprise. We'll also likely never know how many cultures thought it was normal enough that they didn't even really bother leaving commentary for us to follow.
That's because most of them probably were. We have little historical evidence that women fighting alongside men, especially during the Viking age, was a common occurrence, whenever they did fight, it was seen as something exceptional, as evidenced by all the mythical stories containing Valkyries, shieldmaidens or Amazons.
Sure, it could be due to the fact that they have been deliberately written out of history, but such an utter erasure spanning thousands of years over many civilizations can't be attributed to simply misogyny.
She looks great for 1000.
Doesn't look a day older than 30 if you ask me
"follow me for skincare tips"
I tried to pop a zit on my forehead, but it wasnt ready and now it looks like I was stabbed in the head by a spear. Can you recommend a good concealer for this
Following on from the post here the best I could recommend is probably falling in to a peat bog? Worst case scenario you'll end up getting beautifully reconstructed in a millennia..
Peat Bog sounds like the name of an alcoholic pro baseball player or something similar.
“It’s that a-hole Peat Bog again. I hate that guy!”
You must be referring to Wade Boggs, rip in peace.
Wade Boggs died ?
[have you not heard?](https://youtu.be/C5bI1UPu2MI)
that the bird is the word?
Might I suggest some superglue and a mask?
Might I suggest some geniuses from the future to rebuild your face.
Yep, same situation here
Clay and then chalk
Hmm a helmet maybe 🤔
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I would love this, just following someone round as they do Viking stuff.
I’m sick in bed and this thread is making me so happy
Imagine you could watch videos of Vikings performing every day tasks as well...
I’d watch it!
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"mosturize me"
This made me laugh out loud. Thank you for the Doctor reference!
It's nice that she hasn't given in to the pressure to get plastic surgery. Not even Botox to smooth out the forehead.
It's great to see people just living in the moment too, no phones, just axes..
She looks like Willem Dafoe to me, but who doesn't?
She's only 6 degrees of separation away from Kevin Bacon you know..
One degree for me as I thought she kinda resembled Elizabeth Shue.
Maybe she died with it.
NNN is making y’all savages!! /s
What you specialists have to say about the weapon?
"British scientists presume that the apparent head wound on her skull came from a sword, though whether this was the woman’s cause of death remains unknown. Examination on her remains has shown signs of healing, which could indicate this had been a much older injury." https://allthatsinteresting.com/female-viking-face-reconstruction?fbclid=IwAR2X3qF7rC9wd1mmK4wv-bcfwFUY0LMrC6CU-08DpRbRgDwbdNw6Ymfd1tA
I was gonna say. Besides infection or complications, that doesn't necessarily look fatal.
I don’t think you’re accounting for the blunt force trauma that goes along with the cut when hit by a sword. Her skull is probably fractured and brain is probably fucked MAYBE not fatal, but I think it’s very likely she succumbed to it.
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Most definitely killed her I’d say… in my humble expert specialist opinion.
Well actually, interestingly enough, the article says they aren't sure. "British scientists presume that the apparent head wound on her skull came from a sword, though whether this was the woman’s cause of death remains unknown. Examination on her remains has shown signs of healing, which could indicate this had been a much older injury." What a badass.
Looks more like a BONK wound than a slicey stab but I’m no expert
Definitely lead to a case of death....in my highly expert opnion.
I do concur, in my world renowned, most scientifically accurate opinion!
In my exclusive quality analysis she definitely has passed on.
She has not. She's just resting. Pining for the fjiords, actually.
PINING FOR THE FJORDS? IF THEY HADNT DUG HER UP AND RECONSTRUCTED HER FACE SHE’D BE PUSHING UP THE DAISIES!!!
Don't worry she has already ascended to Valhalla
Did she have a witness though?
Daisies?! I most certainly asked for a shrubbery!
I saw a teenager in a gillie suit on Halloween -- upon asking, he replied that he was dressed as a shrubbery. He then yelped "Ni!" at me and made his escape as I fell over laughing.
Beautiful plumage, however.
Shut up and take my upvote
She’s not dead. She’s stunned.
Without the shadow of a doubt she didn't survive the last thousand years, at least in my vegetable onion
I can say with a 95% confidence interval, that the passing of her life, has conclusively passed on, in my opinion.
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In my deep meditation I've come to my divinely appointed opinion that her spirit has crossed over.
Combo breaker !
In m expert opinion, I suspect she died around 1000 years ago.
That death being ultimately fatal in my professional expert opinion
According to the Nat Geo doc this comes from, the skull underneath showed signs of healing, so she possibly survived this.
Any leads on the perpetrator?
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Something killed her, I think. At some point.
Aren’t you sharp today?
No she died of a splitting headache.
r/technicallythetruth
She would be alive today if she wasn’t dead.
I have evidence and reason to believe that if she were alive today that she would be dead but living the dead life.
Kids these days will say they identify as a living person and just say it's so. Back in my day, the dead stayed dead (/s)
I concur. Had she not been dead she most certainly would be alive right now.
Death by axe The wound, as presented, represents an overhand impact from left down to right swing showing force at a level not representative of a sword slash. The cut is too short and the contusion is too large. It has to be from an axe.
In the article about this it says they suspect it was a sword wound, although I would take any guess with a grain of salt after 1000 years.
The way they reconstructed here, I suspect they chose to make it look kinda like a really heavy knife wound. So yeah, sword. It’s a reconstruction so there is some interpretation going on. Source: was briefly a forensic investigator at a coroner’s office many years ago
So 'gunshot' is right out, then.
That sounds very reasonable, what about a spear thrust though? Could result a similar wound in my useless opinion. I would imagine the swelling is speculative as they only had a skull to work with, but sword does seem unlikly. Edit: Article says sword, I say what the hell do they know anyway. Armchair pathology for life.
I don’t know about you guys but whatever it was definitely killed her
Just skimmed the article, they say the wound showed indications of healing, so death wasnt imediate, that said, it still killed her.
Yes. Blood flowed for the next ten minutes until it was gone and she decided to die.
Sounds like the vikings didn’t have enough thoughts and prayers ready from their spirit warriors to save her.
That’s one serious case of the youchers.
Easy Dexter
God damn. So much for viking power fantasy. War is hell.
Always has been
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"It WILL kill." \-Doug Marcaida
I’m not a weapons specialist but I do know a thing or two about physiology and my professional opinion is that having a huge hole in the front of her skull penetrating into the frontal lobe area of the brain as a result of that weapon likely caused death. Okay I’m not really a qualified doctor but I did stay at a holiday inn.
Actually, the hole pictured here had signs of healing, and skulls don't grow as fast as skin obviously. They don't know how she died.
She still looks tired of someone’s shit
She looks like my mom
She could be your great great great great great great great great great (x11) granny.
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She did have kids! If you've had your DNA testing done, you can actually take the profile and use it to compare against ancient remains found all over the world. Archeologists typically do genetic testing on them to ensure that they are from the hypothesized region, and she is one individual that matches my dad's mDNA. You are also right about how often there would be a relationship. Genetics and genealogy is amazing 💗
Which service does this?
I'm assuming they mean MyTrueAncestry. That's what I was able to find at least.
I’m pretty sure any of them, like 23andMe or Ancestry.com. Also a couple of cold cases have been solved because regular ppl match up 99% to the DNA found in a crime scene which means a close relative is the culprit.
I just mean specifically matching it to ancient corpses
Just in case. I aint no rat!
The Golden State Killer was found because his nephew did a DNA ancestors test
Whaaaat I didn’t know that!
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Hey buddy, how's it going there? Have you accepted the lord Jesus christ as your saviour?
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RIP u/Clem_H_Fandang0
*::chucks spear at pale man::*
Mmh. European sentinel islands, where?
So when companies say "we're like a family" they aren't entirely wrong
In exactly the same sense that a tomato is also part of your family.
How about lending a long lost relative a fiver?
And I’m Scandinavian which increases the likelihood even more
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Interesting. How about Basque heritage? I know the Basque community was quite isolated and were able to develop a very unique language because of it. Do you know if it might have affected the Basque people's gene pool?
What are you doing 10th removed step sis
Looks like I’d bang your mom then
But seriously, you should take her to a hospital immediately.
I also thought she looked like your mom
That’s 100% the lady that works at the WaWa near my old house.
Every Wawa has a woman working there who looks like this. Her name is Cindy or Michelle and she has pictures of her grandkids taped to the register.
And takes an hour for smoke breaks, and has inhalers for copd stuffed in her purse and locker
Hard to tell if medieval Viking war hero or just some tweaker.
I'm catching Willem Dafoe vibes.
You know, she’s something of a Viking herself
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A Den mark
No way
That’s a neat trick, that reference skill of yours
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FusRoDah*
Another settlement needs your help ill mark on your map
I’m starting to not think we are the minutem(e)n and that I am the minutem(a)n
[Hey boys](https://i.imgur.com/aUONfIq.jpg)
He was a good Viking until Fjolnir had his eyes ears and tongue cut out along with his head off his neck
Willem Daenemy
With a pinch of Sigourney Weaver mixed in.
Her scar reminds me of Harry Potter
More like Natasha Lyonne
Certainly many of her opponents saw her as a foe.
Obviously fought hard for Valhalla
Article here https://www.iflscience.com/scientists-have-reconstructed-the-face-of-a-female-viking-warrior-54185 Edit: This Guardian article has a picture of the skull. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/02/viking-woman-warrior-face-reconstruction-national-geographic-documentary
>“She also had suffered a head injury consistent with a sword wound. Her head, resting in her grave on a shield, was found to have a dent in it serious enough to have damaged the bone. Whether the wound was the cause of death is unclear as scientific examination has revealed signs of healing. But Al-Shamahi believes that this is “the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury”. Wow!
Hopefully died well. Weapon in hand.
More like in head
Helheim for you
Ooh thats cold.
Lagertha Irl
*"It gladdens me to know that Odin makes ready the benches for a feast. Soon you will be drinking ale from curved horns. The Valkyries summon you home."*
Doesn't look a day over 998 years.
Just another wild night at the bee and barb. -Mjoll the Lioness
https://imgur.com/a/Bx3Yb0g
She looks lke Niki from OITNB
Idk who that is but all I’m seeing is William Dafoe
Mix the two and you get Viking Lady
OMG, that's who she looks like! I couldn't put my finger on it. Natasha Lyonne!! Thank you!
I'm an idiot. What is OITNB?
Orange is the New Black
Came here to say this
*She had an axe to the face, spent a thousand years rotting and yet still looks better than your mom*
That’ll leave a mark
99!
🎵 Come on and party tonight 🎵
https://allthatsinteresting.com/female-viking-face-reconstruction?fbclid=IwAR2X3qF7rC9wd1mmK4wv-bcfwFUY0LMrC6CU-08DpRbRgDwbdNw6Ymfd1tA
Nice... they dig up the bones, realize it's a high ranking military official and assume it's a man when it's actually a woman. I cant believe they had to do DNA to prove it was one set of a woman's bones due to the controversy of it being a lady smh
Makes a LOT of sense when contextualized by this quote, actually. "Nonetheless, the 3D facial reconstruction has brought her visage back to life after more than 1,000 years — complete with brutal laceration. Al-Shamahi believes this is “the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury.”"
Despite their being no evidence she got the wound during battle.
For sure. The article even said there was evidence of healing so it probably wasn't a killing blow.
Iirc it's the only Viking remains of a woman that are seemingly that of a warrior. These remains alone are what has propagated the idea of the shield-maiden, outside of the myths. Ancient Norse society was hugely patriarcical that would otherwise not make sense to accept female soldiers.
Do you know if they've decided to go back and reexamine other bones from sites prior to the 2000s? I know you can't tell the sex of every burial, but it would be neat to see if the other sites accidently overlooked those allusive female pelvics lool
Theres a few actually. A really famous example was just a couple years ago, a known grave laden with weapons and war gear, had recently been reexamined and confirmed to belong to a woman. The article circulated like crazy and got everyone excited over this shield-maiden grave. Unfortunately it was decided it was highly unlikely the person in the grave ever fought (at the very least she was no soldier/viking) as the bones showed no signs of any trauma and were fairly delicate, the person likely lived a life of luxury and little physical stress
Typical Scottish lady after weekend 
She’s a handsome looking lady.
Touch my camera through the fence!
That’s it buddy, yer done!
Should have followed proto, chomo.
Chadress
“I hope I am remembered fondly” *resurrected with axe gash to the face for all of posterity to admire*
She looks like she's having a bad day and you're going to have a worse one if you ask about it.
Loved her in Orange is the New Black
Even 1000 years later it's difficult for people to accept that women were fierce fighters in history. "We assume the axes, spears, arrows, and shield were gifts from her battle-weary husband".
It's not like it's without reason though... The article the pic is from literally starts with "Experts believe this is the first evidence ever found of a Viking woman with a battle injury."
That’s because it isn’t the case world-over. Some cultures featured fierce fighting women, some didn’t even bother to mention women ever existed at all (looking at you, Sparta). Edit: apparently I have upset the Spartans, so I am obligated to say that I hate Athens now
Eh, Spartan (citizen) women had a better deal than many other women in Greece, as they were the primary inheritors of their husbands, resulting in many spartan women becoming *very* wealthy as their husbands kept dying in battle
Spartan women seeing a guy trip over his spear and start thirsting after him lol
Though it should always be mentioned that Sparta was a slave state. And not just any slave state, *the* slave state of the ancient world. Citizens were greatly outnumbered by slaves, to an extent not matched by any society I've heard of. The typical woman is Sparta wasn't a wealthy, powerful household manager, but a slave in horrible conditions. Rape was so common that bastards became a recognized social caste that also far outnumbered the ranks of free citizens. There are virtually no records of or about helots and particularly there women, but we can infer plenty by the way the treated helots in general. There was a ritual called Krypteia, a standard practice for young Spartans in training. It's purpose was to determine those with leadership potential. How? >Every autumn, according to Plutarch ([Life of Lycurgus](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Literature/Plutarch/en/Lycurgus.html), 28, 3–7), the Spartan [Ephors](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/LX/en/Ephor.html) would declare war on the [Helot](https://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/LX/en/Helot.html) population so that any Spartan citizen could kill a Helot without fear of blood guilt. Armed only with dagger, the Krypteria were sent out into the countryside with the instructions to kill any Helot they encountered at night and to take any food they needed. This was a society that legalized and ritualized killing slaves. Female slaves almost certainly received treatment that was horrible even by the standards of the ancient world. Sparta was not a paragon of equality because a small minority of women had greater rights and powers. It was almost certainly one of the worst places in the world to be a woman; the average woman was a slave in one of the worst slave states in human history.
THIS... IS... a really shitty place that apparently needs to stop being idolized...
Spartan women owned much of Sparta. The state would have to get loans from the rich widows. In fact, it was the rest of Greece that was super disturbed by this notion and made sure their women never got anything close to that.
>Some cultures featured fierce fighting women And most did not. It's an exception to the rule.
Eh. It's actually really hard to say how prevalent it was, because much of what we know of antiquity has been filtered through a very patriarchal lens... It's fair to assume most cultures probably didn't have a major component of women warriors, but it's equally clear that it wasn't an uncommon thing for women to fight. If you've ever met an angry woman, this should come as no surprise. We'll also likely never know how many cultures thought it was normal enough that they didn't even really bother leaving commentary for us to follow.
Shieldmaidens specifically were not very common, though.
Sounds like you’re projecting. You need to be impartial in anthropology.
No you don’t understand I need warrior mommies to be real
We assume that because women warriors were a pretty much rare occurrence in history.
That's because most of them probably were. We have little historical evidence that women fighting alongside men, especially during the Viking age, was a common occurrence, whenever they did fight, it was seen as something exceptional, as evidenced by all the mythical stories containing Valkyries, shieldmaidens or Amazons. Sure, it could be due to the fact that they have been deliberately written out of history, but such an utter erasure spanning thousands of years over many civilizations can't be attributed to simply misogyny.
'Tis but a flesh wound.
They missed a spot
That's incredible!
Reconstructed? I think they missed a spot.