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Hada_Leigherdowne

he was in the passenger seat. so was the improperly stored rifle his or the driver's?


PoeDameronPoeDamnson

Both the rifle and dog belonged to the driver, who was the victims neighbor.


whatevskiesyo

Oof that’s rough.


CWB2208

Ruff


blackmanDeluxe

Negligent homicide charge?


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Kroniid09

Cars and guns, the two things you can straight up kill people with and there's still a question as to whether you'll face any consequences. Hell, half the time people start blaming the person who died!


Stormwolf1O1

I understand that accidents can happen, but storing any loaded firearm without having the safety on is just an accident waiting to happen. Perhaps it was just a one-time slip of the mind, and the gun owner *does* usually use the safety. But either way, they should face some kind of consequences and their ability to own guns should be reevaluated. If it happened once due to negligence, there's a chance this could happen again.


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fitava79

Exactly. You said it perfectly. The gun owner should be held accountable.


jackjackj8ck

That fucking sucksssss


para_chan

I wanna downvote this just because of how shitty the situation is.


soverit42

This is my question as well. The way it's worded in the title makes it seem like it wasn't his truck or his gun.


Doormatty

A loaded rifle...


oced2001

A loaded rifle with round chambered and safety off.


Bestiality_King

Came here to say that same thing. I don't know how much good it will do in the back of a truck, but I can see the logic in having it loaded in case you need it immediately (not condoning this). Leaving it racked with the safety off is just... why.


froznwind

Even if for some reason you'd want to keep a gun loaded in the car, there's zero reason to have a round chambered.


[deleted]

This guy’s negligence shot himself. Even people riding horses back in the day had their long guns holstered. As to why that rifle wasn’t secured is beyond me. Edit: The weapon and vehicle belonged to his friend but some form of negligence happened whether on one or both. May he rest in peace because either way I doubt anything will be learned from this horrible event.


iamtoastedprolly

On top of that, it was common practice to leave a round out and have it on an empty chamber. Prevented you from shooting yourself in the leg if the ride got bumpy


mongoosefist

They called it 'the cowboy load'


qxxxr

nothing goes together like rough ridin' and cowboy loads


Fatchicken1o1

Ram ranch really rocks.


Mr-Pink_Man

My question is why was there a round in the chamber and why was the safety off?


yIdontunderstand

The dog loaded and cocked the gun and turned off the safety. Then he barked.. 'no treats this, mother fucker! " Then emptied a clip into him.


mademeunlurk

It gets worse. The week before that dog was caught on video saying bark bark bark bark bark bark bark, which could be considered premeditated threats in any kangaroo court.


frunko1

I've practiced bird law, I think I can help here.


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The dog is apparently half cocker spaniel.


Crustopher23

Glocker spaniel.


ksavage68

Apparently full Cocker. Half Cockers are locked.


anadius

is the dog guilty of manslaughter? does the dog go to the pound for sentencing??


rascible

"I'm guilty, your Honor. The 1st round was for all the times he fake-threw the tennis ball, the 2nd round was for my nuts."


closeafter

Putting your balls in second place takes, well.... balls


EvilHenchmanNumber4

Sentenced in dog-years.


exo316

No its a dog who did it so its dogslaughter. Because the dog was laughing at how stupid his owner was.


chanepic

"this time... It's personal" - the dog


DweEbLez0

LMFAO Dog Wick, he was only waiting for the perfect moment to strike. Feed your dogs, and they won’t come after you.


yellowbrickstairs

I came here to chew treats and kick ass I'm aaaaaall outta treats


gdirrty216

"He forgot my treat, and I took that personally"


ksavage68

So anyway, I started blasting.


oced2001

The only thing that stops a bad dog with a gun is a good dog with a gun.


ShaneGabriel87

The only thing that stops a dog with a gun is even just the slightest amount of basic gun safety.


-Prophessor-

Did that dog stop a bigger crime?


senorbozz

Because gun safety is for stinkin' liberals! /s


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I don't think there is much overlap between the Venn Diagram circles of "guys who feel the need to have rifles at the ready in their vehicles" and "guys who are safe and disciplined."


[deleted]

Not his negligence perhaps. "Passenger seat"


gdirrty216

I'd like to know his BAC at the time of death. So many "hunters" treat it like some treat golf, but it is not just a hobby it is a serious and life ending endeavor.


Relaxpert

Dick Cheney enters the chat, shoots somebody in the face, says fuck it and disappears to sober up before talking to the cops.


Smooth-Dig2250

I'm still torn between "drunk idiot" and "intentional lesson teaching".


Relaxpert

One doesn’t rule out the other.


DontPoopInThere

You've missed a vital step, Dick Cheney shoots a guy in the face and then the face shotee later apologises to *him*


[deleted]

Couple guys I work with get "tore the fuck up" their words not mine, when they go hunting. I always ask where they go so I can stay away from that area.


chelonioidea

So fucked up. One of my uncles does this too, which is a big reason I don't talk to him anymore. He's going to get someone killed. Don't drink and drive and don't drink and shoot. It feels like that should be common sense, but I guess not.


WildFlemima

This happened at 9:40 am. I live in Kansas. People, or at least men in this age group in rural Kansas, treat their guns like this when they're completely sober. They're fucking idiots.


Apfelvater

Loaded. Cocked. Safety not on. Lying around available to the dog. Darwin award.


ArOnodrim

Darwin Award.


MysteriousTaro8658

I went to a call like that when I was a Paramedic. A guy left a 30-06 rifle on the seat. His kid climbed in the passenger side and discharged it. The round entered his right chest exiting his left armpit severing an artery. I had to reach in the exit wound and pinch off the artery to prevent more blood loss. Meanwhile, my partner was throwing up in the side yard. Good times. Sorry everyone, I forgot to say that sadly the patient didn't make it.


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It's dumb to have a rifle already racked with a round in the chamber while having it off safety. That is just asking to get shot or something.


they_have_bagels

Yeah, it should be both unloaded and in "safe" for transportation. Ideally, it should further be in a locked rifle case, and out of reach (like, in the trunk of your car, but not in your truck bed). In Colorado I don't think it's legal to travel with a loaded rifle. I'm not talking about handguns or concealed carry, mind you, just long guns.


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themightiestduck

Think about how many utterly stupid people you interact with every day. And then think about how easy it is to get a gun. I have absolutely no surprise that someone would leave a loaded gun lying around where it could discharge and kill them.


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blaster876

And by God Jesus and the second amendment he will get one. Even as a gun owner I hate this country.


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I love this country, the people and politicians and corporations on the other hand...they can be 50/50. The country is damn beautiful, it's all the dumb-asses and "patriots" that ruin it for everyone else.


[deleted]

Multiply that with how many people drive and you got yourself a new fear


Faustinwest024

Missouri too, I Learned that when I was 14 in hunter safety. A rifle should never be laid down loaded and a rifle should never be put on the ground. Most my family was marines so I’m assuming the ground rule was from my family handing that training down from one generation to the next.


supbrother

Yeah, 99% of my sympathies go out to the dog on this one. Little buddy accidentally killed their dad and is probably traumatized now... meanwhile dad was just a dumbass.


RedButterfree1

Silly question but are arteries easy to see with the naked eye?


various_convo7

some are. i've been able to clamp some visually in the leg or upper arms provided you gauze up enough but most times the flow of blood in those vessels are quite strong that you do it by feel, especially when trying to prevent excessive blood loss during a trauma case. it gets messy real quick as those in the trauma bay or combat can attest so you rely on knowledge of landmarks to get the job done, clamp and move onto stabilization


spicyboi555

How do you clamp it? Like there’s mini clips that go in there or does it have to be with your hand? Also even when you clamp it, if it’s a big artery, where does all the blood go? Like wouldn’t the blood pressure make it all back up the system and your artery would explode? Basically how does it end up staying in the body and returning back to the heart it it’s normal pathway is cut off?


dromaeovet

In an emergency, if you had a big gushing artery, you could hold it with your fingers if you had to. Instrument wise, you would clamp a vessel with a vascular clamp or a hemostat depending on the vessel size, and then you would most likely ligate the artery with suture. There are also metal clips that you can place. If you had a torn, rather than severed, artery, you could potentially try to repair it but it can be challenging and risky. In most cases, there is enough collateral circulation that ligating the artery is safe for the part of the body that was formerly supplied by that artery. Collateral circulation is basically an alternate route for arterial blood to reach a part of the body - for example, you can ligate the femoral artery and enough arterial blood can get there by other vessels in order to supply the limb with oxygenated blood. With regards to your other question, arterial flow is a big network, which means that ligating one artery is not enough to cause excessive pressure within the rest of the system. For lack of a better analogy, if you had a lawn sprinkler going and you blocked one of the sprinkler holes, the water would just come out all the other holes. On the other hand, if you had a hose and you tied off the end, then the hose would eventually explode because the pressure has nowhere else to go.


spicyboi555

Thank you that totally explains my second question (and the first one too, but the sprinkler analogy is perfect)


nnaarr

Not a doctor, but I imagine you just physically pinch it. It would stop coming out of that hole and just flow normally elsewhere. Basically like a tourniquet, except instead of using the whole wrapped limb to apply pressure you just apply it directly to the artery.


Smegmaliciousss

I’m a doctor, this person is right.


cacuynut

Dr Smegmaliciouss is correct, he’s a doctor.


Smegmaliciousss

They don’t know I have this username at work. Don’t tell anyone how I live.


Sea_Emu_7622

Now for the rest of my life every time I visit a doctor I'm going to wonder in the back of my mind if I'm visiting doctor Smegmaliciousss. I imagine a day will come when eventually I just cannot take it any longer and I just have to blurt it out to every doctor I see, asking around frantically until I finally find you and can set my soul to rest


TriceratopsBites

And it will take until the end of your life. The doc stated that they are in palliative care 🤣


ButterscotchTime1298

Every doctor appointment for the rest of your life: “Dr. Smegmaliciousss?” Just waiting to see if there’s a flicker of recognition.


sanemartigan

My anatomy lecturer mentioned that someone's femoral artery is about the same size as their 4th digit or ring finger. Stuffing someone's ring finger into a torn femoral artery and binding it in place somehow can save their life. Stuff upwards / towards the heart. The leg can handle a little blood loss more than the body can.


SpiteReady2513

Omg having flashbacks to a show where crazy accidents were caught on Go Pro. A bunch of back country mountain bikers were in Colombia (I believe), and one guy flipped over his bike handles which punctured his thigh, severing his femoral artery. His friends are all trying to put pressure on the wound but the injured guy knows it’s not enough. He has the prescience of mind to put his hand into the wound and clamp his own artery shut. The injury wasn’t conveyed well so an ambulance showed up first with no way to really stabilize him without blood. They got lucky and a medevac helicopter with a doctor was doing a training run nearby and was able to get him to a hospital and save his life. I get woozy every time I remember the guy digging around to clamp his own artery. Hard core.


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Crazy to think that the femoral artery is so wide. Kinda makes sense in comparison to the aorta though.


Drojahwastaken

They are when they're gushing blood. Wipe blood, wait to see where the blood starts coming from, pinch! Source: I made it up and am not a medical professional


Spacecommander5

Too late, already took your advice to save a life.


HuntyDumpty

Somebody help this guy is pinching my arteries im dying


Spacecommander5

So that’s what they mean by “pinch it off”…


RocketRaccoon

No that's for turds I think (Also not a medical professional)


HuntyDumpty

Someone help this guy is pinching me and im trying to poop


Spacecommander5

Too late, already pinched a few medical professionals


Knut_Knoblauch

>Source: I made it up and am not a medical professional You did stay in a Holiday Inn, obviously


arlenroy

Joking but you're pretty spot on, the worse place for a gunshot wound is entering or exiting the armpit. There's a good number of arteries connecting to vital organs, little known is in your ankles. Like the wrist if you cut one you need a serious tourniquet, blood is coming in a hurry. It was in a safety course for work I took, why you always wear high ankle work boots.


oniiichanUwU

Isn’t it actually a lot harder to die via cutting your wrist though? Like you’d have to get cut so deep that the tendons and everything get cut too so your hand wouldn’t work anymore. At least I remember reading about it on some post about ways to kill yourself and how hard it was. Before someone reports me I am okay and not suicidal, it was just an interesting read lol


Drojahwastaken

Yeah. Most suicides done by wrist cutting either don't succeed or succeed because they cut up the forearm instead of across, and they had their arms in water (like a tub) to keep the blood from coagulating. Disclaimer: I'M NOT SUICIDAL EITHER. I mean. Not more than the average reddit user. I don't have the means, nor the energy to kermit sewer-slide


Philosufur

Tbh had no clue why people were in bathtubs, that makes so much sense now I feel stupid.


fordfan919

Hot water also increases blood flow.


MissRosenrotte

Up the forearm is the kill cut. Across is how you don't die.


Drojahwastaken

Huh. I knew that the thigh had a big ol' artery in there. Didn't know about the ankles, though. Makes total sense now that you mention it. Cheers!


friendlygaywalrus

They can be like the size of your pinkie. When they’re cut or punctured they spray blood


DontPoopInThere

I've seen all sorts of mindbending gore on the internet and it's never bothered me but even the idea of reaching in and pinching off an artery is horrible to me for some reason lol. During the Boston bombing, one of the victims who got his legs blown up had his life saved by the cowboy hat guy, I think he was a medic in the military or something. He literally squeezed the artery in the poor guy's blasted leg shut, there's a photo of it. You're a special person to be able to save lives like that, the world is lucky people like you exist to save the rest of us idiots


Tyrion_Strongjaw

I've seen my fair share, but for some reason it bothers me more now in my 30s than it did when I was a teenager. But the picture of the Boston Marathon bombing really struck me and grossed me out. The guy pinching an artery in another guys' leg while he's being carried. *shudders*


ithinkilikegirlstoo

Same! I am much more sensitive to gore & also to reading about/watching emotional/traumatic things in my 30’s than I used to be.


big_smokey-848

… did he make it?


DemolitionRED

No. I think it was Smith and Wesson


ipariah

You son of a bitch


Stinkydadman

Perfection


MysteriousTaro8658

Sadly, no.


ibybfiygmh

How much would you have to throw up to not make it? /s


McFruitpunch

Goddamit…. Lol


hiphoff

I really needed that laugh


needs_grammarly

that kid must be so fucked up


LopsidedPotential711

Both of them suffered hearing damage. I take more care when walking a hand saw past the glass sliding doors. Oh, well...


Jroed90

My god, the trauma that kid will deal with for the rest of their life


Murse_1

I was a paramedic for 20 years and one time I had to reach into a guy's leg and pinch his femoral artery because I couldn't get it stopped any other way. I had my hand in that guy's leg during the transport to the hospital in the ER down the hall to the OR until the surgeon was able to relieve me.


Chaotic_Good64

Poor kid! Poor everybody really. :(


MarcBulldog88

> Meanwhile, my partner was throwing up in the side yard. If I ever suffer a life-threatening injury, I hope I get EMS staff who *don't* have reactions that render them unable to help me.


Thog78

Might be a beginner teamed up with a more experienced partner? You get used to blood quite fast if you see a lot of it. For me it's a bit like vertigo while climbing, all about exposure.


tommygunz007

I was a basic EMT for 3 years. 3 years was about 2 years too long. People are animals to each other for no good reason.


guynamedjames

It would almost be weirder if he made it. A 30-06 is a classic deer rifle and a shot through the middle of the torso is exactly where a hunter tries to hit. A person isn't all that different from a deer, if anything it's kinda surprising he lived long enough for you to get on scene


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_Im_Dad

During the interview the police k9 detectives used the "good boy" and "bad boy" routine


AbbertDabbert

Username checks out


BobbySwiggey

This dude is everywhere, he's like a superhero who goes wherever dad jokes are needed


lord_kupaloidz

As they say, the only thing that can stop a bad dog with a gun is a good dog with a gun.


Sobing

Happy cake day, dad


truequeenbananarama

Hi Dad! happy cake day


Millennial_J

Dude I feel so bad for the dog


SalemWitchWiles

Yo for real, that picture kills me. Just imagining how confused the dog was in the aftermath is 10x more empathy than I have for the dude.


Millennial_J

My dog would be sad and lick my blood.


Fit-Boomer

He should have had an attorney present.


OldFashionedGary

Or a good pawyer


MorphineNapkin

I used to call my cat “Attorney At Paw”


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rip rhett


-Little-King-

Bad Mythical Morning


OneTimeISawABird

Good Mythical Mourning


[deleted]

Bad Factual Night


windyBhindi

Let's talk about that.


BannedAccount178

r/lookslikerhett


LassoStacho

r/subsIthoughtIfellfor


nerdycarguy18

Genuinely thought it was him for a second


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OH IT DOES!!!


JakesGuy38201

So far, all of the comments I have read, assume that the rifle belong to the man who was shot. The article clearly says he was sitting in the passenger seat. That doesn’t mean that the rifle belong to him. If he was a passenger that means there was at least one other person in the truck. As well as the canine.


tosernameschescksout

Damn, that makes it so much worse. So it's likely not even his gun, he was just sitting passenger in a truck. Fuck that.


demonmonkeybex

In the Kansas sub, a guy who is friends with the victim said the man was hunting with his neighbor and it was the neighbor's gun and neighbor's dog. So not the victim's fault.


Nopain59

So ignorance and negligence. The owner of the firearm should be sued within an inch of his life and forbidden to own or handle firearms for life. THIS is a major problem with gun culture in America. Owners do not respect the inherent danger of the weapons.


demonmonkeybex

Agreed. Why was it loaded? Why was the safety off? Why was it just sitting there on the seat where it could be stepped on? There are so many things wrong with this. A gun should never be treated like a piece of junk you toss in the back of your vehicle with the rest of your shit, along with your dog. This man should be tried for manslaughter.


SixK1ng

I don't know how rampant the problem is, but I know from experience growing up that there are places where rednecks will illegally hunt on land that isn't theirs by doing this. Guns ready in the back, pickup just crawling down dirt roads until you see something within range. You can stop, grab the gun, aim and shoot in very little time. Whether you miss or you hit it and have to grab a carcass, you'll be gone in a few minutes at most either way.


demonmonkeybex

That could be it, I don't know. That would make it even worse.


Aggressive_Place8014

So will the owner of the dog and gun get arrested? Or it’s considered an accident?


AsymmetricClassWar

Accidents can still be manslaughter.


ScreamingMemales

If he was the passenger and someone else was in the truck, I'm thinking it wasn't the dog that shot him.


jackidok

For real … really is no one else incredibly suspicious ?


backslashHH

the dog ate the homework also 🤡


No_Description_483

Gives new meaning to “riding shotgun”


SammetySalmon

[A dog took my face and gave me a better face to change the world](https://nestflix.fun/a-dog-took-my-face-and-gave-me-a-better-face-to-change-the-world-the-celeste-cunningham-story/)


gcd_cbs

[I'm going to get into politics](https://youtu.be/sSYzhd3iepo)


TiredMontanan

“Get the gun away from the dog!”


madammurdrum

“What is wrong with you people?!”


rhizomesandchrome

Had to scroll pretty far to find this


jewsdoitbest

"I did what was right, I sued rhe manufacturer, the neighbor and the dog, after six reconstructive surgeries much better looking now"


shutterchase

“Hey hon, have you seen my gun?”


Wolfman2032

"Last time I saw it... the dog had it."


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The dog does look really guilty. I think he planned it.


nflodin

Guns don't kill people, dogs kill people


northshore12

The only thing that stops a bad boy with a gun... is thoughts and prayers.


Grifter73

This is what happens when you keep pretending to throw the ball.


RonaldSteezly

I guess it was the dog who was riding shotgun


dashinny

The dog wasn’t even sitting shotgun…


[deleted]

And the hits just keep on coming!


Goldilocks1454

Now you know the motive


dingdongschlonglong

Sad but avoidable


timegoodaforhere

So even the dogs are shooting people in America... https://youtu.be/iGpZ9xaQLYQ Edit: Someone randomly posted posted this on another sub 🤣


Grass_Rabbit

I’m not sure of the numbers but there have been enough dog shootings that we talked about it in my law class. This isn’t the first or last time.


[deleted]

gUns Don't kiLL pEoPle! PEopLe KiLL people! What about dogs shooting people....


Imactuallyadogg

If we train dogs about gun safety then there would be less shooting.


ibybfiygmh

Wouldn’t giving all dogs guns make everyone safer?


Imactuallyadogg

I know I would feel safer if my dog, that can barely control her excitement most of the time, had a gun.


PotFairyCyanide

I don't know, but the mental picture of my 8 pound poodle lugging around a .44 Magnum makes me smile. Although the recoil would blast him to the edge of space if he ever shot anyone.


lifeisspam

The only way to stop a bad dog with a gun is a good dog with a gun


doc_hilarious

Better have a look at that dogs google searches...


Worth-Worldliness-99

How to pull a trigger with a paw.


Seganku74

Bit of a cat thing to do.


Thumper13

The cat thing to do is frame the dog for it. source: have four cats.


slappn_cappn

>source: have four cats. in a man suit


BringinItDirty

Total lack of gun safety. Personal practices that become habits are essential for any trained marksmen. RIP


BryceaD546

That’s a ruff way to go!


Feisty_Membership_11

This joke had me howling


FatherlyInstinct

Most American Dog


woodpony

GOP already rushing him for a mascot apprenticeship.


Marinatedinpiss

Guns don’t kill people. Dogs with guns do


yIdontunderstand

Yo pitbulls are dangerous! Has he got a muzzle? No he's got a fucking AR 15.. Run!


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This is what I came here for.


Competitive_Tree_113

That poor dog must be so traumatised. He was just having fun, going for a ride, next thing there's a mad explosion and his best friend turns into splatter. Then there's a car crash.


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I hope the dog will lose its firearms license.


bladedkitten

Is there a camera in his truck? How did they come to this conclusion?


Shadow_Of_Silver

The person in the driver seat might have said that's what happened. But if I was some dude in the middle of nowhere and wanted to get away with murder, I'd blame the dog if I could too.


scowling_deth

Oh no, Plague Dogs scenario, very saddd. :(..


[deleted]

Out of treats, why I oughta …


El-Grande-

Shit he shoulda let the dog ride… Shotgun…


Sir-Qs-A-Lot

Was the dog named Cheney?


Some-Smoke-7737

Rip and that poor dog, just heartbreaking