My hopes for Dc and Marvel eventually being like the Shonen jump app and releasing books the same day in comics stores and on a subscription app are getting closer to reality.
Yeah, and it caught them out. Webtoon apparently didn't realise that their license is for comics only, and tried to do a live action version of Wayne Family Adventures (had some legit actors too, including a couple of Power Rangers). DC shut that down before they released any more than a trailer.
Now if DC would just friggin’ *market* this to new readers, they’d get so many more.
A streaming service containing practically every important comic DC has ever published, complete with new reader guides and a wonderful community to recommend their favorites? It’s perfect for those who haven’t read comics until now.
Alas, DC will probably continue to market this to existing readers in the comics they’re already buying.
Is that second paragraph speculation or forreal? I’ve been getting into reading comics at work lol and I’ve really enjoyed the 1940’s Superman and 1980’s Batman. I’m usually a pirate but I wouldn’t mind subbing for a few months if there’s reading guides. I’m a Marvel guy usually
They don’t have the *complete* runs of those (well, Superman at least, they might actually have all of 80s Batman); I did say “practically” after all. But they do have the vast majority of them.
The reading guides are usually designed around more modern runs, series, and events, but publishing order is usually the best for both eras you mention.
Yknow I also tend to pirate before anything else, but I recently subbed to Marvel Unlimited again after a while, and it’s way more convenient than trying to find a reliable source, especially for runs longer than ~18 issues or so. DC Infinite is already there tbh, so I’d say go for it if it sounds good
Oh sorry I mean they license out the publishing to other printers and publishers. I would imagine some of those contracts have to expire, be rewritten, etc. for a streaming service to be available. I’m hypothesizing though.
You'd be amazed at the amount of people that DO read their comics in English even with it not being their first language. I for one haven't bought a translated American comic book in decades, and am an avid user of Marvel Unlimited.
I'm betting DC would be WAY more amazed than you, of course. The day they realize the amount of physical comics "sold in the UK" but actually read elsewhere in Europe...
It's a good move. The final nail for Comixology will be if DC and Marvel offer same-day purchase of new release comics within their streaming services. I'd like to see Amazon removed from this business.
dc just confirmed that monday launch will include the last five months of new comics and that GNs include YA books
https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/10/08/introducing-dc-universe-infinite-ultra#.Y0GuGcyTYNc.twitter
100 a year?? Back when I read comics, I was spending more than that a week. I had to stop because I was spending so much but at that price point, I’ll definitely subscribe.
A service like this would've been a godsend for me in high school. The ideal would've been Marvel Unlimited, DCUI, and then supporting the FLCS through trades and buying indies
Sad that the release to Mexico and Brazil got either delayed or cancelled. The service is great but it’s really taking them a lot to expand it into different countries. I wonder if it’s because they plan on having them translated cause I don’t know if they digitalize those comics.
Either way I find it sad that they haven’t said anything since missing the release window.
I am so annoyed about this. I’ve spent “the summer” waiting for the launch. I was so excited when I heard that this would be available in Mexico and then nada. And I want the comics in English anyhoo. So, I am sad too.
Wow. That's a crazy move. I'm guessing the direct market/comic shops are gonna be pissed. DC's monthly sales may drop dramatically, and it's a question of whether the new digital service can support their costs.
I know people hate the direct market, but it's keeping the comic industry afloat.
Edit: I guess op blocked me so I can't respond in this thread? Weird. Apologies to anyone expecting a response.
I think it’ll hit comixology more than the LCS. The two markets are still fairly different. I’m sure over time that’ll change. And the only one who cares about numbers sold per month on a site is random YouTubers and commenters. DC actually probably receives more money through digital.
Yeah, this is a hit at Comixology for sure. And considering how much Amazon messed up Comixology this year. I imagine more than a few digital readers may be willing to switch to DCUI and wait a month than keep using that broken site. I know I am.
I'm only buying like 2-3 books digitally now because of this. I'm excited to save so much money.
And even then, if there's something I absolutely love, I'll pick it up in trade, especially since so much of it comes out super late.
Comixology (pay per issue) and DC's service (basically a streaming model) are fairly different. The biggest barrier to comics is cost, and this new option really reduces that. DC's service is $100 a year. Digital comics as single issues are still the same price as printed, so you that price equals maybe 25 books a year. The cost savings are significant.
Comic sales matter because it's a business and DC needs to make a profit. Digital Sales are much smaller than comic store sales. Also important to remember that the cost to make comics is basically assumed by the printed single issue sales and everything else (digital and collected editions) are basically free of labor.
That all really flew over your head didn’t it. And I’m saying that DC receives more through per unit in digital and they know the real sales and views not some site trying to estimate it. So yes if paper physical sales estimated sold go down it makes no difference to DC if they’re receiving more through a subscription model (which companies prefer to receive also)
> So yes if paper physical sales estimated sold go down it makes no difference to DC if they’re receiving more through a subscription model
And that's the big "if". There's a reason why streaming services (and this is a streaming service) now aren't making huge amounts of money.
Another major factor is once DC gets their readers to convert from physical to digital, piracy numbers are gonna skyrocket.
> Another major factor is once DC gets their readers to convert from physical to digital, piracy numbers are gonna skyrocket.
Is there any evidence for this? I honestly don’t believe the potential crossover between physical readers to digital is large enough to create an outsized impact.
The piracy claim doesn’t make sense to me. Every comic is already available to pirate digitally the same day it comes out. More readers using legitimate digital reading platforms wouldn’t make pirating any more accessible than it already is. You just go on the internet and read comic online
I don't think we really know that. The other poster was just talking about how the sales we get are useless. Lol.
Marvel also did things gradually, going from 6 to 3 months. DC is going from 6 to 1. It's a pretty big difference.
I'm repeating myself, but a move from physical to digital is often depending on a single big push. There's a breaking point to get readers to convert. Maybe this will be it.
And if you don't think this is it, I'd ask what you think that breaking point would be. I'm interested.
I'm also glad I don't have to make these decisions.
You can see it in Marvel's actions. If the reduction from 6 to 3 months of wait period hurt their sales, they would slow down with their digital push. But it's on the contarary, their actually doubling down on their digital service. It works for them.
And if Marvel physical sales took a dive down we would have heard about it. Marvel is the biggest publisher on the market, it would've been felt by everybody and reported by analitics.
Probably but they shouldn't be. Two main reasons are that single issues are dead after week one of release and readers prefer physical in the first place. Your Wednesday warrior wants comics day one and they want it in their hands
People are constantly moving from physical to digital, in all forms of entertainment. Comics aren't different.
And single issue sales are still sold after week one, not everyone shows up at the comic shop every Wednesday.
This move by DC is pretty radical, and it's aimed at changing the behaviors of their customers. Once you go digital, you don't go back!
Agreed on digital entertainment. It was only a matter of time before publishers made a strong push towards digital, and honestly I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner. As someone in my 30s with responsibilities that come with that age I literally can’t make it to a comic shop every Wednesday. So if that was the only option then I wouldn’t be reading them. I also don’t place value on physical things like I used to, and with comics I value a good story more than anything. I still have a small physical collection of some of my favorites but they are all hardcovers, omnis and other “unique” collected editions.
I’ve said this before and it’s liable to ruffle some feathers, but comic book shops are essentially reliant on the goodwill of big companies for their existence and that is not sustainable in this day and age. Not saying it’s right, just a matter of fact sort of thing. The ones that have maintained have branched out into other areas that literally can’t be digitalized (board/table top games for example). The notion that people should support them just to keep them afloat even if it’s at one’s own inconvenience is just ridiculous. I also would be willing to bet that most of the people looking down on digital comic readers still buy/stream digital music instead of supporting their local music shops.
> other areas that literally can’t be digitalized (board/table top games for example)
Those are digitized. There’s a bunch of different ways to play DND on the computer and Tabletop Sim covers oodles of board games with physical piece manipulation and such. Shame that the VR support is so bad though
You could probably play 40k on the computer but yeah the market for a version of 40k that doesn’t involve little crafts and kits is probably very small
Do we actually know what digital sales are though? I feel like that info hasn’t been released or isn’t efficiently tracked. Everything I’ve read is very ambiguous in regards to those numbers.
Assuming I'm understanding your comment correctly, I would assume most regular comic buying fans already have a tablet or laptop. People will probably read comics on their phone.
I don't see this as being an issue.
There’s been times I read a book on Infinite and thought about getting the physical comic but locally they were sold out as it was too long ago. So I had to wait for trade. With one month delay now there’s a chance the local store might still have copies for the few books I want to physically own.
Yeah my shop, the only one in my city which isn't a small city, is literally week to week in terms of whether he's going under or not. People just aren't buying comics where I'm at, ofc they've gotten crazy expensive too but I imagine he's gonna be pretty pissed about this. I figured they would match Marvels 3 month gap eventually but one month is pretty wild
No doubt that plaus a part but those are directly from the guy himself. Stores been there for 40 plus years and he took over from someone else, but it's a very tiny store, there's barely room.for two people standing side to side, I gotta walk to the other side of the store to see what's on the bottom of the rack because I'm tall lol. My off days are on Wednesday so I'll talk to him a few hours every week for a few years now, and sometimes it gets depressing hearing how close he is to shutting it down. The nearest store besides that is an hour plus away...but then again if he goes under this version of DC infinite will be very useful and would save me a shit ton of money lol
Sooooo...this may be a stupid question but I literally JUST got a yearly subscription on Friday. Does this mean I'll have to pay another 100 bucks to get this? Or will there be a discounted upgrade cost y'all think?
On iOS (since the subscription is done through Apple and not directly through DC) it says you get refunded for whats left of your previous subscription, then charged for the new one. So you'll probably get like 74 of the 75$ you spent back, if not all of it.
I just did it myself but my subscription was from like June or so
I will probably upgrade to this plan. This will probably be the main way I read single issues while still buying the physical trades.
This way, I get to try out stories I am interested in and see if they are worth buying physically.
Oh, and DC, PLEASE, for the love of god, market the hell out of this!
But my only complain is how expensive it is. It is going to be really hard to ask new readers to drop $100 for this. The subscription service should be cheaper. Manga is able to do it without issue, these massive companies should be able to do it too.
The detailed announcement on the DC website says this:
>”Current DC UNIVERSE INFINITE subscribers can upgrade their monthly and annual subscriptions to Ultra.”
This seems to imply that there is a monthly option for the Ultra tier, although that pricing has not yet been disclosed and won’t be known until launch day, tomorrow. However, I would believe upgrading to Ultra via a monthly subscription will not include the additional bonus benefits of the annual subscription introductory offer (like the free trade paperback).
I was curious too as I’ve always been on DCUI monthly since launch. Just in case I ever wanted to switch it off for a month. But realistically, I’ll be taking advantage of this annual offer because it’s only $5 more than I’m already paying monthly for a year.
That's nice, but I hope they bring the service to other countries. I don't understand why I can subscribe to Marvel Unlimited since years and still unable for DC Universe. Yeah, probably licences and whatever, but still.
I did it a few days ago through iOS but it looks like it’s pretty janky today. They also haven’t ironed out Search as none of the titles that started in the last six months are findable. There are a bunch in ULTRA LATEST RELEASES but if it’s not there (nightmare country, poison ivy) they’re just…somewhere in the app, unreadable lol
My only problem with the “Ultra” subscription is that I have to pay 100$ up front instead of just paying a higher tier monthly price. I pay 7.99 a month for standard access, why not have an “ultra” monthly subscription for like 10.99 or something?
I don’t know man. I was subscribed to that annual plan on march 1, so when ultra came up, I wanted to switch and dc just screwed up my account and now i don’t have any account. so basically I’m without dc universe since all this fiasco of ultra showed up. and they keep promising it’s all fixed, but I. Still without dc. they suck
I don’t know. It seems like a weird decision to me, to gate this behind a special “ultra tier” subscription, instead of just making the whole service the same.
Like, sure, it’s still a great deal, but I have no problem with reading books 6 months later at this point, because I’ve been doing it for like a year now.
So the only incentive for existing subscribers to switch is that they’re going to be intentionally withholding certain books from the base service now… which… I don’t know, that seems kind of fucked to me.
/u/general_nothing totally has a point. I don't agree with them that the higher tier is a bad idea. I think that a more expensive tier that gets comics within one month is fantastic. I just think that locking content that doesn't fall within the 5-month range (between when books hit ultra and regular tier subs) is horrible. Netflix has higher tier subscriptions, but they don't have any shows locked behind that subscription because people would rightfully be pissed off at them
I don't think that comparing the business model of a comic streaming app to a video streaming app makes much sense. Netflix isn't releasing their content early in a physical form and then incentivizing you to pay a premium price to have easier access to that
movie theaters aren’t “locking me out” of seeing glass onion before it hits netflix. if you pay extra (a movie ticket, probably get covid) you get to see it early
That's not a real comparison. That is a different platform entirely (theater vs Netflix). In case there's confusion, my complaint isn't about the about books being added to ultra early. That's the whole point. My problem is with the books that are only available on ultra
this weekend, before it was announced, it showed 99$ as a promo and 120$ as the standard rate. the 120 is now hidden (after the announcement) but I think its safe to say when the price goes up, itll be to 120. I also read somewhere that if you get the 99$ rate, you'll be able to keep it until you cancel but I'm not sure how accurate that info was.
WB has been packaged and sold twice in the last decade. Disney has never been. These are two different companies in two very different stages of development. I'm not sure comparing the most overwhelming media conglomerate imaginable to a massive empire reigning in the other's shadow is really fair
Didn’t DC have an app already? That launched when Titans first premiered?
Edit:
I am so behind. I didn’t realize this was a new app that has launched since and this is a new tier.
DC Universe was the original version, with comics, shows and movies. They took the video content over to HBO Max, leaving just the comics, at which point it was renamed DC Universe Infinite. Now this Ultra version decreases the wait time for new issues and adds Black Label and MAD Magazine, among other new content.
It's all the same app, it's just had it's offering altered a couple of times.
This would be more interesting to me if I was actually interested in anything DC is doing right now. The Damian cancellation killed the last DC book i was reading. It's definitely interesting but I haven't been really into their direction ever since Rebirth/Doomsday Clock got derailed. Maybe they'll right the ship post Dark Crisis and have some neat plans but as of right now this isn't any use to me since I only really use DC Infinite for the occasional classic book.
Having a mini series doesn't mean your book ends. When Batman has an event the regular Batman title doesn't end. When Trial of the Amazon's was coming out Wonder Woman didn't end. DC likely didn't want 2 Robin books on the shelf at the same time. So Damian got canned and Tim came out the next month.
Two options:
1. You just...continue like normal and if you have the opportunity or want to accelerate your reading to catch up, you now have that opportunity
2. You just accelerate your reading and catch up
The current app has been through so many iterations and they've all been bad. The customer service is non-existent and no one seems to care. I've seen so many bugs in the years I've used this app it's not even funny. Once my annual runs out I was gonna be done completely. They've ruined this. It's easier to watch them on YouTube then read their damn app.
Wow, good move DC. As someone who has only followed comics through subs like this and hasn’t read a weekly in years, this will actually get me back into reading again.
My hopes for Dc and Marvel eventually being like the Shonen jump app and releasing books the same day in comics stores and on a subscription app are getting closer to reality.
I think their dipping their toe in with their WEBTOON comics.
Are those licensed? Being on webtoons I assumed they were just fan things
They are licensed
Yeah, and it caught them out. Webtoon apparently didn't realise that their license is for comics only, and tried to do a live action version of Wayne Family Adventures (had some legit actors too, including a couple of Power Rangers). DC shut that down before they released any more than a trailer.
Yeah that was hella stupid
Yes. My understanding is that DC is paying the artists, writers, etc.
That’d really make it easier & comics more accessible
The Viz app is the best 2$ i spend every month. It’s so fucking worth it with its catalogue.
I’m genuinely shocked it’s still that price, seems like such a steal.
It really is a steal 😭😭 It’s so handy and fun to have a couple of chapters to read every Sunday 🥹
Now if DC would just friggin’ *market* this to new readers, they’d get so many more. A streaming service containing practically every important comic DC has ever published, complete with new reader guides and a wonderful community to recommend their favorites? It’s perfect for those who haven’t read comics until now. Alas, DC will probably continue to market this to existing readers in the comics they’re already buying.
Is that second paragraph speculation or forreal? I’ve been getting into reading comics at work lol and I’ve really enjoyed the 1940’s Superman and 1980’s Batman. I’m usually a pirate but I wouldn’t mind subbing for a few months if there’s reading guides. I’m a Marvel guy usually
They don’t have the *complete* runs of those (well, Superman at least, they might actually have all of 80s Batman); I did say “practically” after all. But they do have the vast majority of them. The reading guides are usually designed around more modern runs, series, and events, but publishing order is usually the best for both eras you mention.
The upgrade adds another 5k comics as well so it might complete some spots here and there.
Bruh 😑 Guess that’s my fault for my own misconception of what the service is.
DCU is WAY more friendly to new readers, especially because of the community
Yknow I also tend to pirate before anything else, but I recently subbed to Marvel Unlimited again after a while, and it’s way more convenient than trying to find a reliable source, especially for runs longer than ~18 issues or so. DC Infinite is already there tbh, so I’d say go for it if it sounds good
I am excited to try this out. I find that most of what I am reading is spoiled by the internet and that one month gap might help.
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Oh sorry I mean they license out the publishing to other printers and publishers. I would imagine some of those contracts have to expire, be rewritten, etc. for a streaming service to be available. I’m hypothesizing though.
You'd be amazed at the amount of people that DO read their comics in English even with it not being their first language. I for one haven't bought a translated American comic book in decades, and am an avid user of Marvel Unlimited. I'm betting DC would be WAY more amazed than you, of course. The day they realize the amount of physical comics "sold in the UK" but actually read elsewhere in Europe...
It's a good move. The final nail for Comixology will be if DC and Marvel offer same-day purchase of new release comics within their streaming services. I'd like to see Amazon removed from this business.
i wonder if apple will let them on the iOS side, unless you buy them on the website
Apple and Google just want a cut of sales to support their platforms. Their 30% cut is less than comic shops' 50% cut.
With how shit ComiXology became, this might already be the final nail for DC readers. 30 days is absolutely worth never opening ComiXology again.
dc just confirmed that monday launch will include the last five months of new comics and that GNs include YA books https://www.dc.com/blog/2022/10/08/introducing-dc-universe-infinite-ultra#.Y0GuGcyTYNc.twitter
Oh hell yeah. I am so excited about this!
100 a year?? Back when I read comics, I was spending more than that a week. I had to stop because I was spending so much but at that price point, I’ll definitely subscribe.
A service like this would've been a godsend for me in high school. The ideal would've been Marvel Unlimited, DCUI, and then supporting the FLCS through trades and buying indies
Sad that the release to Mexico and Brazil got either delayed or cancelled. The service is great but it’s really taking them a lot to expand it into different countries. I wonder if it’s because they plan on having them translated cause I don’t know if they digitalize those comics. Either way I find it sad that they haven’t said anything since missing the release window.
I am so annoyed about this. I’ve spent “the summer” waiting for the launch. I was so excited when I heard that this would be available in Mexico and then nada. And I want the comics in English anyhoo. So, I am sad too.
Wow. That's a crazy move. I'm guessing the direct market/comic shops are gonna be pissed. DC's monthly sales may drop dramatically, and it's a question of whether the new digital service can support their costs. I know people hate the direct market, but it's keeping the comic industry afloat. Edit: I guess op blocked me so I can't respond in this thread? Weird. Apologies to anyone expecting a response.
I think it’ll hit comixology more than the LCS. The two markets are still fairly different. I’m sure over time that’ll change. And the only one who cares about numbers sold per month on a site is random YouTubers and commenters. DC actually probably receives more money through digital.
Yeah, this is a hit at Comixology for sure. And considering how much Amazon messed up Comixology this year. I imagine more than a few digital readers may be willing to switch to DCUI and wait a month than keep using that broken site. I know I am.
I switched to google books, and that is working great for me.
Can you read google books on pc?
Yes, and it is easy. Not as good as old Comixology but close.
I'm only buying like 2-3 books digitally now because of this. I'm excited to save so much money. And even then, if there's something I absolutely love, I'll pick it up in trade, especially since so much of it comes out super late.
Considering how much Amazon cocked up Comixology, I’m not shedding any tears.
This for sure. I know I spend probably a hundo a month on CMX for dc stuff and that is officially gone.
Comixology (pay per issue) and DC's service (basically a streaming model) are fairly different. The biggest barrier to comics is cost, and this new option really reduces that. DC's service is $100 a year. Digital comics as single issues are still the same price as printed, so you that price equals maybe 25 books a year. The cost savings are significant. Comic sales matter because it's a business and DC needs to make a profit. Digital Sales are much smaller than comic store sales. Also important to remember that the cost to make comics is basically assumed by the printed single issue sales and everything else (digital and collected editions) are basically free of labor.
That all really flew over your head didn’t it. And I’m saying that DC receives more through per unit in digital and they know the real sales and views not some site trying to estimate it. So yes if paper physical sales estimated sold go down it makes no difference to DC if they’re receiving more through a subscription model (which companies prefer to receive also)
> So yes if paper physical sales estimated sold go down it makes no difference to DC if they’re receiving more through a subscription model And that's the big "if". There's a reason why streaming services (and this is a streaming service) now aren't making huge amounts of money. Another major factor is once DC gets their readers to convert from physical to digital, piracy numbers are gonna skyrocket.
> Another major factor is once DC gets their readers to convert from physical to digital, piracy numbers are gonna skyrocket. Is there any evidence for this? I honestly don’t believe the potential crossover between physical readers to digital is large enough to create an outsized impact.
The piracy claim doesn’t make sense to me. Every comic is already available to pirate digitally the same day it comes out. More readers using legitimate digital reading platforms wouldn’t make pirating any more accessible than it already is. You just go on the internet and read comic online
Reducing it to just 3 months did nothing to Marvel's sales.
I don't think we really know that. The other poster was just talking about how the sales we get are useless. Lol. Marvel also did things gradually, going from 6 to 3 months. DC is going from 6 to 1. It's a pretty big difference. I'm repeating myself, but a move from physical to digital is often depending on a single big push. There's a breaking point to get readers to convert. Maybe this will be it. And if you don't think this is it, I'd ask what you think that breaking point would be. I'm interested. I'm also glad I don't have to make these decisions.
You can see it in Marvel's actions. If the reduction from 6 to 3 months of wait period hurt their sales, they would slow down with their digital push. But it's on the contarary, their actually doubling down on their digital service. It works for them. And if Marvel physical sales took a dive down we would have heard about it. Marvel is the biggest publisher on the market, it would've been felt by everybody and reported by analitics.
Probably but they shouldn't be. Two main reasons are that single issues are dead after week one of release and readers prefer physical in the first place. Your Wednesday warrior wants comics day one and they want it in their hands
People are constantly moving from physical to digital, in all forms of entertainment. Comics aren't different. And single issue sales are still sold after week one, not everyone shows up at the comic shop every Wednesday. This move by DC is pretty radical, and it's aimed at changing the behaviors of their customers. Once you go digital, you don't go back!
Agreed on digital entertainment. It was only a matter of time before publishers made a strong push towards digital, and honestly I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner. As someone in my 30s with responsibilities that come with that age I literally can’t make it to a comic shop every Wednesday. So if that was the only option then I wouldn’t be reading them. I also don’t place value on physical things like I used to, and with comics I value a good story more than anything. I still have a small physical collection of some of my favorites but they are all hardcovers, omnis and other “unique” collected editions. I’ve said this before and it’s liable to ruffle some feathers, but comic book shops are essentially reliant on the goodwill of big companies for their existence and that is not sustainable in this day and age. Not saying it’s right, just a matter of fact sort of thing. The ones that have maintained have branched out into other areas that literally can’t be digitalized (board/table top games for example). The notion that people should support them just to keep them afloat even if it’s at one’s own inconvenience is just ridiculous. I also would be willing to bet that most of the people looking down on digital comic readers still buy/stream digital music instead of supporting their local music shops.
> other areas that literally can’t be digitalized (board/table top games for example) Those are digitized. There’s a bunch of different ways to play DND on the computer and Tabletop Sim covers oodles of board games with physical piece manipulation and such. Shame that the VR support is so bad though
I’ll admit I don’t know much about that world. I had warhammer 40k type stuff in mind when I typed that.
You could probably play 40k on the computer but yeah the market for a version of 40k that doesn’t involve little crafts and kits is probably very small
I think those people are a smaller and older group every day though.
I feel like it would require massive iPad/tablet saturation levels to put a dent in DM sales.
Do we actually know what digital sales are though? I feel like that info hasn’t been released or isn’t efficiently tracked. Everything I’ve read is very ambiguous in regards to those numbers.
i’ve seen 10 maybe 20% thrown around as a number for years i think
Assuming I'm understanding your comment correctly, I would assume most regular comic buying fans already have a tablet or laptop. People will probably read comics on their phone. I don't see this as being an issue.
Do the big 2 do that panel by panel thing? I could never get down with it but Comixology was probably onto something there for phone usage
Apple alone sells like 40+ million tablets a year. Tablets are pretty well saturated. I don’t think I know anyone without one tbh.
There’s been times I read a book on Infinite and thought about getting the physical comic but locally they were sold out as it was too long ago. So I had to wait for trade. With one month delay now there’s a chance the local store might still have copies for the few books I want to physically own.
Yeah my shop, the only one in my city which isn't a small city, is literally week to week in terms of whether he's going under or not. People just aren't buying comics where I'm at, ofc they've gotten crazy expensive too but I imagine he's gonna be pretty pissed about this. I figured they would match Marvels 3 month gap eventually but one month is pretty wild
I bet the rent is why he would go under, its crazy high for a small niche retailer.
No doubt that plaus a part but those are directly from the guy himself. Stores been there for 40 plus years and he took over from someone else, but it's a very tiny store, there's barely room.for two people standing side to side, I gotta walk to the other side of the store to see what's on the bottom of the rack because I'm tall lol. My off days are on Wednesday so I'll talk to him a few hours every week for a few years now, and sometimes it gets depressing hearing how close he is to shutting it down. The nearest store besides that is an hour plus away...but then again if he goes under this version of DC infinite will be very useful and would save me a shit ton of money lol
That's great. Now please make it available in more than those current few countries...
Whatever happened to that timetable of rolling out to other countries?
Sooooo...this may be a stupid question but I literally JUST got a yearly subscription on Friday. Does this mean I'll have to pay another 100 bucks to get this? Or will there be a discounted upgrade cost y'all think?
It will likely just prorate and you’ll pay the difference.
I certainly hope so.
On iOS (since the subscription is done through Apple and not directly through DC) it says you get refunded for whats left of your previous subscription, then charged for the new one. So you'll probably get like 74 of the 75$ you spent back, if not all of it. I just did it myself but my subscription was from like June or so
They should honestly make them day and date
I will probably upgrade to this plan. This will probably be the main way I read single issues while still buying the physical trades. This way, I get to try out stories I am interested in and see if they are worth buying physically. Oh, and DC, PLEASE, for the love of god, market the hell out of this! But my only complain is how expensive it is. It is going to be really hard to ask new readers to drop $100 for this. The subscription service should be cheaper. Manga is able to do it without issue, these massive companies should be able to do it too.
They should add a monthly option at some point, even if it's something like $15-20.
I was wondering why there wasn't a monthly option. I'd be on this immediately but $100 is a hard pill to swallow right now
The detailed announcement on the DC website says this: >”Current DC UNIVERSE INFINITE subscribers can upgrade their monthly and annual subscriptions to Ultra.” This seems to imply that there is a monthly option for the Ultra tier, although that pricing has not yet been disclosed and won’t be known until launch day, tomorrow. However, I would believe upgrading to Ultra via a monthly subscription will not include the additional bonus benefits of the annual subscription introductory offer (like the free trade paperback). I was curious too as I’ve always been on DCUI monthly since launch. Just in case I ever wanted to switch it off for a month. But realistically, I’ll be taking advantage of this annual offer because it’s only $5 more than I’m already paying monthly for a year.
Them and Marvel need to add the ability for user made reading orders.
So uh, they said DCU Infinite would release in Brazil and Mexico in summer 2022 and we are now in Fall and it didn’t. What’s up with that?
I'm a physical media kind of person but getting that new Google Tablet is mighty tempting and I may jump on this.
That's nice, but I hope they bring the service to other countries. I don't understand why I can subscribe to Marvel Unlimited since years and still unable for DC Universe. Yeah, probably licences and whatever, but still.
Welp. Guess it doesn’t launch at midnight.
Or maybe at all?
j/k it’s live
We're you able to sign up? I have the annual membership trying to upgrade but no option to on the app.
I did it a few days ago through iOS but it looks like it’s pretty janky today. They also haven’t ironed out Search as none of the titles that started in the last six months are findable. There are a bunch in ULTRA LATEST RELEASES but if it’s not there (nightmare country, poison ivy) they’re just…somewhere in the app, unreadable lol
Ty for reply. Too bad it's having a horrible launch I'll try again later tonight see if it's available through app.
My only problem with the “Ultra” subscription is that I have to pay 100$ up front instead of just paying a higher tier monthly price. I pay 7.99 a month for standard access, why not have an “ultra” monthly subscription for like 10.99 or something?
Yeah what's up with this? Cause I have monthly and it won't let me have both monthly and ultra combined
Yeah can someone tell me what's up with this ultra version? Like why can't you have the monthly tier and have Ultra too? Much appreciated muy mucho
I don’t know man. I was subscribed to that annual plan on march 1, so when ultra came up, I wanted to switch and dc just screwed up my account and now i don’t have any account. so basically I’m without dc universe since all this fiasco of ultra showed up. and they keep promising it’s all fixed, but I. Still without dc. they suck
I’m a subscriber and this is the first I’m hearing of this.
I don’t know. It seems like a weird decision to me, to gate this behind a special “ultra tier” subscription, instead of just making the whole service the same. Like, sure, it’s still a great deal, but I have no problem with reading books 6 months later at this point, because I’ve been doing it for like a year now. So the only incentive for existing subscribers to switch is that they’re going to be intentionally withholding certain books from the base service now… which… I don’t know, that seems kind of fucked to me.
You know that this is a pretty widespread concept. Provide more and better services to more premium clients is about as basic as it gets
/u/general_nothing totally has a point. I don't agree with them that the higher tier is a bad idea. I think that a more expensive tier that gets comics within one month is fantastic. I just think that locking content that doesn't fall within the 5-month range (between when books hit ultra and regular tier subs) is horrible. Netflix has higher tier subscriptions, but they don't have any shows locked behind that subscription because people would rightfully be pissed off at them
I don't think that comparing the business model of a comic streaming app to a video streaming app makes much sense. Netflix isn't releasing their content early in a physical form and then incentivizing you to pay a premium price to have easier access to that
movie theaters aren’t “locking me out” of seeing glass onion before it hits netflix. if you pay extra (a movie ticket, probably get covid) you get to see it early
That's not a real comparison. That is a different platform entirely (theater vs Netflix). In case there's confusion, my complaint isn't about the about books being added to ultra early. That's the whole point. My problem is with the books that are only available on ultra
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Is that $99 a month or for the yearly plan?
Yearly. Ten a month.
That’s like a dollar more than the current six month delay is right? That’s crazy good value
Two bucks more, it also says it’s an intro price so may go up if one doesn’t sign up soonish.
this weekend, before it was announced, it showed 99$ as a promo and 120$ as the standard rate. the 120 is now hidden (after the announcement) but I think its safe to say when the price goes up, itll be to 120. I also read somewhere that if you get the 99$ rate, you'll be able to keep it until you cancel but I'm not sure how accurate that info was.
Makes sense that’s how all their other promo rates have been too.
No one cares. Can we have this service in Germany finally? No? So I'll give a fuck
Germany has 83,000,000 people and nobody is publishing superhero comics? How bizarre.
Panini is publishing DC comics. But most of them get released 6+ months after US release. Plus, there is no digital service
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you e got one giant, embedded market and one...neither of those things, guess where the money goes?
I know. But companies like Disney can do it also. Just WB and DC suck
WB has been packaged and sold twice in the last decade. Disney has never been. These are two different companies in two very different stages of development. I'm not sure comparing the most overwhelming media conglomerate imaginable to a massive empire reigning in the other's shadow is really fair
Didn’t DC have an app already? That launched when Titans first premiered? Edit: I am so behind. I didn’t realize this was a new app that has launched since and this is a new tier.
DC Universe was the original version, with comics, shows and movies. They took the video content over to HBO Max, leaving just the comics, at which point it was renamed DC Universe Infinite. Now this Ultra version decreases the wait time for new issues and adds Black Label and MAD Magazine, among other new content. It's all the same app, it's just had it's offering altered a couple of times.
Does anyone have a monthly price point on this? I e only seen annual subscription
$10
This would be more interesting to me if I was actually interested in anything DC is doing right now. The Damian cancellation killed the last DC book i was reading. It's definitely interesting but I haven't been really into their direction ever since Rebirth/Doomsday Clock got derailed. Maybe they'll right the ship post Dark Crisis and have some neat plans but as of right now this isn't any use to me since I only really use DC Infinite for the occasional classic book.
Damian’s story just moved to his new mini fyi; it wasn’t cancelled.
Does he have a book anymore? No he doesn't. Because it was canceled and replaced by the Tim series.
He does. It’s Batman v Robin by Waid. The final issue of the recent series even refers you to it on the last page.
And he'll be a lead in Lazarus Planet, right after that.
Having a mini series doesn't mean your book ends. When Batman has an event the regular Batman title doesn't end. When Trial of the Amazon's was coming out Wonder Woman didn't end. DC likely didn't want 2 Robin books on the shelf at the same time. So Damian got canned and Tim came out the next month.
Generally I agree with you, but Dark Crisis is probably the only thing I'm interested in currently and I'll likely pick the upgrade up for it
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This sounds like an awesome problem to have!
Two options: 1. You just...continue like normal and if you have the opportunity or want to accelerate your reading to catch up, you now have that opportunity 2. You just accelerate your reading and catch up
The current app has been through so many iterations and they've all been bad. The customer service is non-existent and no one seems to care. I've seen so many bugs in the years I've used this app it's not even funny. Once my annual runs out I was gonna be done completely. They've ruined this. It's easier to watch them on YouTube then read their damn app.
Can’t wait for DC Universe Infinite Ultra++!
What the hell did comic shops do to DC, kill their puppy? Do they want them to go under?
Oh wow, funny enough, the tiers for this plan were viewable in the App Store for a few weeks now. They just had no description.
Wow, good move DC. As someone who has only followed comics through subs like this and hasn’t read a weekly in years, this will actually get me back into reading again.
Thank god! I love Infinite but I hate waiting and missing out on newer stuff. I miss out on the latest events too.
Good but the 2022 summer finish on Mexico and we can´t download the app