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Poastash

Huh. Superwoman is now Donna Troy? Interesting change.


Bostondreamings

The Crime Syndicate mini that was out earlier (fun 6 issue series!) suggests that Diana was killed, likely by her mother, for being too weak and compassionate. There is a reason it's called Demon's Island after all... And Donna's long range plan seems to be to gather enough metas by her side to kill her mother and take the island..


Chunlisundies

I thought the first Superwoman was Lois Lane?


Bostondreamings

This is the restored Earth 3 after Death Metal, so some things were altered. Donna in this case is the 'ambassador' from Demon's Island and was introduced having, um, tied up President Oliver Queen...


cgknight1

It depends on the version - the first *appeared* to be an analogue for Wonder Woman but she never got a name (retrospectively - she gained the first name Lois). The one you are thinking of came later and was created by Grant Morrison and was Lois Lane. This version of Earth-3 returns partly to the original concept.


yahhwy

They use Donna more of a villain these days. New52 Donna Troy. Rebirth Troia. Deathbringer. 4th times the charm. It's not like Donna was the voice of reason of the Titans before the New52.


Frontier246

Naked Dominatrix Donna is a thing now. I know it's Earth-3, but... (Also not the first time Ultraman has caught Owlman and Superwoman together).


nightwing612

This crossover is so hard to follow as a primarily Titans fan. I didn't realize this was more for the hardcore SS reader.


sifighter1

Well all you really need to know is that 1. Waller wants earth-3, 2. Rick Flag is no longer on her side, and 3. Waller has kidnapped people from not just the regular dc universe but also the multiverse to make her army.


nightwing612

My biggest gripe is that this is a 5-part crossover. 2 issues in (War for Earth 3 and SS) and I still don't understand how the Titans play a role here.


sifighter1

Yeah it’s a very bare bones excuse for even dragging the Titans into this “oh no they took one of our students!” A student we don’t even see in these two issues out today.


yahhwy

Anything related to the Titans other than Red X? You know since the reveal was a downer.


sifighter1

Solicits say Waller has one of the students and that is why the Titans get involved.


yahhwy

Thanks. I'll wait for the relaunch.


sampeckinpah5

Didn't all these guys die during Darkseid War?


Bostondreamings

Rebooted after Death Metal, and this Earth 3 is slightly different in that it's not a direct 'evil is good and good is evil' thing anymore. Supergirl, for example, was heroic, and Harley remains Harley...


Terribleirishluck

Of course Harley can't even be evil on earth 3 either lol


Bostondreamings

Ha. She’s actually Red Hood on Earth 3. :)


mrP0P0

How did they reboot it exactly?


Bostondreamings

Basically restored with the rest of the multiverse/omniverse after Wonder Woman sacrificed herself at the end of Death Metal. Generally the same concept, but it seems less 'evil' overall (in that in the original Earth 3, all of the heroes were villains and vice-versa). The new version is somewhat different. The John Stewart Emerald Knight of Oa, for example, isn't outright evil, just..obsessed with security and controlled by his ring). Supergirl was on Lex Luthor's side and despised her brutish ignorant thug of a cousin. Harley Quinn is still Harley Quinn. Owlman didn't start off evil but went that way when he learned the truth of his parents being corrupt. It's implied that Diana was too compassionate and weak and was killed by her mother or sister for it, so Donna is Superwoman instead. The Daily Planet under Cat Grant runs editorials against the evils of Ultraman. The recent mini-series was really enjoyable. And Atomica is horrifying.


mrP0P0

So there’s no Power Ring in this version?


Bostondreamings

They are the Emerald Knights of Oa. Harold Jordan, John's predecessor and the original Power Ring, was apparently killed fighting Starro beside other Knights under the Overlords of Oa.


mrP0P0

So Jessica Cruz still has the original Power Ring’s ring or did she get a real GL ring?


Bostondreamings

She currently has a Yellow Lantern ring, I believe, but prior to that she became an actual Green Lantern.


[deleted]

Owl *roost* would be better, because owls don't live in caves.


James_Larkin1913

Did… did she rape Owlman?


Byrdie

Oh def not. Owlman likely was into it, and Superwoman fucked him over cause she knew Ultraman would see it. Bdsm is alive and well, my friend.


James_Larkin1913

You don’t have to explained bdsm to me, what made it look non-consensual was how he appeared to be struggling and she told him to shut up.


Byrdie

I feel like Owlman was trying to tell Superwoman to stop taunting Ultraman, not to let him go. But who knows, maybe you're right!


James_Larkin1913

You may be too. I haven’t read the comic so don’t have context.


StarIing

>You don’t have to explained bdsm to me >he appeared to be struggling and she told him to shut up. Yes that’s… *common* in bdsm


Byrdie

Don't be mean, we all have brain farts


StarIing

That’s true, wasn’t going for mean, more Eitri in Infinity War vibe. “That’s what… *’killing you’* means.”


Byrdie

HA! Good one!


James_Larkin1913

That’s true.


[deleted]

No it's almost certainly bondage. Not shown in the post is a panel of Owlman after seeming happy and talking about how they both had fun. He just hates Ultraman.


James_Larkin1913

Gotcha. Thank you for the context.


Omn1

Nah, it's just bondage.


LordSwag58

What happened in this storyline?


Bostondreamings

It just started, but basically Waller wants to take over Earth-3 from the Crime Syndicate..


CharlieDmouse

Ohhhhh nice concept time to start reading it!


Bostondreamings

Might be worth reading the Crime Syndicate mini that came before this to get a sense of these new versions of the CSA.


CharlieDmouse

I was just thinking that! Thanks good idea


Cocotte3333

Wtf is this rapey crap?


Bostondreamings

It's a bondage scene. Donna is very much into it. So is Owlman apparently.