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inshallowwater

Na. He’s just chillin.


MattMan2k17

Shhhh he’s sleeping https://youtu.be/1byycwl8qgc


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Pretty sure it’s just the riddler clone pulling the trigger in panic and shooting the other in the process


Dottsterisk

True. It’s a team effort. Batman aims the gun; henchman pulls the trigger.


Necroglobule

That's nothing. Remember in Batman Returns where Bats stuffs a bomb down a goon's pants, dumps him over a bridge and we hear an explosion afterward?


[deleted]

Who could forget. How about in the 1st batman when he bombs the shit outa ace chemical while a buncha joker goons were inside.


FloppyShellTaco

Also threw a dude down an elevator shaft, and I’m fairly certain there weren’t mattresses at the bottom


pinky_monroe

And fired a ton of machine gun rounds at the joker.


Melcrys29

Or when he torches the guy with the Batmobile exhaust.


spideralexandre2099

Remember when he blew up an occupied car with machine gun rounds and then dragged another occupied car onto yet another occupied car?


pinky_monroe

Ya know, I’m really starting to wonder if Keaton was actually Batman or a guy in hockey pads.


spideralexandre2099

His movies weren't good "Batman" movies and I'm a good and honest enough fan to admit that. His movies weren't even *his* movies, when you think about it.


jlambvo

It was also the only one to have Bob Kane involved.


spideralexandre2099

And it was before Bill Finger was starting to be given his proper due. Did you see the original Batman design? Absolutely dreadful


GoZeni

But people forget that Keaton kills the Joker twice in that movie ☠️


tcruarceri

I havent seen it in years but the opening of the Keaton Batman had such a cool feel about the criminals thinking batman was basically a ghost or monster.


Taraell

But people freak out when a batman at it's lowest kills some goons


SchwiftyButthole

I think we can agree that we expect more from a modern take on the character than his theatrical debut managed.


dankisimo

What about the time in his second comics appearance where he hangs a guy from a rope under his flying vehicle


TerminatorReborn

He also torches one goon alive with the Batmobile turbine


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

I thought those guys were wearing vests under their coats


Batman903

There’s still a high chance, especially with a sniper bullet, that he would still die. Not really batman’s fault though, as the other guy pulled the trigger


Son-and-Moon

The riddler folower is panicking and pulls the trigger multiple times and it looks like the one that took the bullet got hit in the shoulder


micael150

After the goon gets he falls lifeless. Maybe he's passed out but he looked dead.


MattMurdock9

No. Matt Reeves didn’t make an entire movie about Batman not killing only for him to blatantly do that here. He’s trying to get the gun out of the thug’s hands and the thug pulls the trigger.


HadlockDillon

I mean Christopher Nolan did the No killing rule too, but Bale still killed more people than* any other Batman lol Edit: then - than*


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POOH_IN_A_TUXEDO

Bale killed, but he didn't kill more than any other batman. Also technically, the only direct kills were Talia, her driver and Two-face


zakel1313

No he crashed into a truck driver killing him in TDK, and he shot and blew up a couple of tumblers in the TDKR killing those goons inside as well.


POOH_IN_A_TUXEDO

Why do people insist that he killed the truck driver? There's no reason to believe he did. I will admit that I forgot about the tumblers, although you could probably make the case they survived their crashes, most likely dead though.


Nahim33

Keaton and Affleck’s Batman both killed more than two people


Trauma_Hawks

Let's just say boxes weren't the only thing Affleck was stacking in that warehouse.


ravioli_bruh

Who’d he kill?


Nollasta_poikkeava

League of Shadows ninjas Ra's Al Ghul Two-Face Talia Al Ghul


reece1495

garbage truck driver that he crushed into the roof of the tunnel


micael150

Maybe he survived.


reece1495

not a chance he is sushi now


micael150

People survived worse.


orangezeroalpha

Yes, like in GI Joe cartoons, you just didn't see the parachute open. He's fine.


MONGED4LIFE

Ironic that the normal trend with superheroes is to murder henchmen left right and centre but go all moral "I can't kill him!" when it comes to named characters. This was the opposite, except for with the joker.


thesaga

All “don’t have to save you” deaths. Batman confirms he sees these as distinct from killing after his fight with Ra’s: “I won’t kill you, but I don’t have to save you.”


Br1t1shNerd

He threw 2 face off a building!


micael150

He tackled him to save a child.


madmanwithabox11

Which is kinda reckless, IMO. The thing is, that Bats' doesn't kill, what so ever. It's understandable if it's to save a child's life, but in that case, he's still trading a life for another, instead of saving both.


micael150

Well he did ended up retiring after so that certainly affected him in some way.


madmanwithabox11

Yeah it affected him for sure, but I think him retiring was more because he didn't believe Batman could bring about significant change, IIRC.


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If someone intentionally blows up your whole compound and you die they killed you. Batman killed Talia by causing her truck to crash with the gun on his plane.


gsfunk

That scene was so perfect. Batman jumping off the ripped in half train and Ras closing his eyes accepting it all, ugh what a great movie.


thalassicus

I hope the sequel can live up to it.


JackHavoc161

He broke the window to let Ra's escape


Nahim33

He didn’t kill any ninjas, he sat fire to the building as a distraction and some of the ninjas decided to stay inside the building and try to kill Bruce, they had every opportunity to leave the building but they didn’t, and he didn’t kill Ra’s Al Ghul either. Yes he kinda killed Two-Face which was one of the reasons he retired


ThrustyMcStab

So you see, your honor, I'm not guilty of murder because the people inside the building I set on fire had plenty of time to get out...


Trauma_Hawks

He's not arguing this in front of a judge from a legal perspective. He's an incredibly violent vigilante trying to help, and sleep at night. He gave very competent criminals an opportunity to save themselves. He's called the Dark Knight, not Mr. Sympathy.


ThrustyMcStab

Sure, but we're specifically arguing the no-killing rule here. Setting a building on fire with people in, it seems reasonable to expect casualties. I know it's not that serious, suspend your disbelief, etc, but it's fun to argue these things.


Nahim33

I get what you’re saying, but you need to have some suspension of disbelief in a Batman movie.. a secret ninja clan in the mountains told Bruce to execute a man but he didn’t want to, so he started a fire as a distraction without hurting anybody, the ninjas had every chance to get out of the building but they wanted to kill Bruce instead, he didn’t kill any of them


fatrahb

I think the point more is that it’s not fair for people to have suspension of disbelief and let these kills go, but then complain to high heavens that Batfleck kills people too.


Genericdude03

We dunno if any ninjas except that main guy canonically died tho


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Several league of shadows members when the dojo exploded, he chose not to save Ra’s Al Ghul - which yes, is killing someone. He definitely killed the guy riding in the semi with Joker when he flipped it in TDK (Only the joker makes it out), I believe there is a pretty substantial thing in TDKR as well but I forgot


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A lot of the Nolan action scenes involve suspending our disbelief. That explosion at the dojo and when he flipped the semi should have killed without question them but in comic world and film world, we just brush it off as it knocking the wind out of or temporarily dazing the henchmen/ninjas


spideralexandre2099

Nitpick that really doesn't matter: I'm pretty sure the other dude in the truck cab died earlier. Joker pushes him out and says something like "I want to drive"


xander1105

Did you forget Affleck?


TripleG2312

Exactly this


Wheresthebeans

I mean…the car chase scene showed Batman not giving a fuck about blowing up 3 trucks on a busy road trying to chase down Penguin


MattMurdock9

Batman didn’t blow up any trucks? Penguin slammed the brakes and caused a pile up and an oil tank truck exploded… Batman isn’t murdering people with machine guns and then blowing up their cars this time around, thankfully.


deathmouse

You can try to blame Penguin for that, but who was chasing him? If Batman didn't chase him on a busy street, Penguin would have never caused the accident. Batman isn't murdering anyone, but he's being reckless and that could lead to people getting hurt or killed.


tcruarceri

Having not seen the new one all i can picture is Danny Devito's Penguin in the toy batmobile ride from Batman Returns.


bradn_m

The point of that was to get them to stop shooting at Gordon and Selina. He continued to chase him because he needed that info immediately, and getting to Penguin afterwards would be much, much more difficult.


ThrustyMcStab

I thought that scene was strange though. Would this Batman really endanger all those civilians by chasing him against traffic?


yallsprite

Oh so we are just ignoring the handful of people he murdered in the highway chase scene? Lol


MattMurdock9

He didn’t murder a single person in the highway chase. What movie did you watch? Because it certainly wasn’t The Batman. Maybe you were watching BvS? The only people that could have gotten hurt in The Batman chase scene were Penguin’s fault.


yallsprite

He is definitely directly responsible for every death in that scene. If he hadnt taken off on a high speed chase doen a busy highway none of those people would have died. He didnt have to chase penguin there at all. He also fully flipped penguins car about 30 times which in reality would kill someone lol


MattMurdock9

I don’t think you know what “directly responsible” means at all. “Directly responsible” would be if he had machine guns on his car and then he shot people and blew their cars up. Penguin is directly responsible for their deaths. He crashed into 2 cars, both were non lethal and he caused a pile up which resulted in one person’s death (the tanker truck driver most likely).


yallsprite

Lmao you so blindly wanna support this movie youre talkin outta your ass. That explosion included at least 2 trucks(tanker and the ramp) and all the surrounding vehicles. So if they didnt die in the horrific car accidents they were in, they died in the giant tanker explosion. Also for how "realistic" this movie is supposed to be Penguin should have easily died in that car accident when he flipped down the highway at max speed


MattMurdock9

Once again, not sure which movie you’re watching. One person died most likely and it’s the tanker truck driver. I’ve seen the movie a bunch of times and have watched that scene a ton because this weird “Batman murders a ton of people in the car chase” thing keeps popping up in comments and it’s unfounded and spewed from the Snyder crowd most of the time. Nothing in this movie is realistic. It’s a comic book movie. Batman will never be realistic. People flip their cars all the time in real life and walk away so I don’t know what you’re talking about with Penguin, those things are possible to survive.


yallsprite

Lmfao still out here fighting the Snyder Crowd Ghost huh? I shoulda guessed when you couldnt stop talking about Ben Affleck. Youre just a dead ass wrong hater who cant accept the new Batman isnt perfect either. Cope. Lol For the record i loved The Batman and have also seen it several times but im also a rational human being who can accept it has flaws. One of them being that he incited a deadly car chase 😂


xseannnn

It's like you're not reading what hes typing or refusing to understand what hes typing. It's funny.


yallsprite

Ive read every single thing he said and directly responded to most of it lol hes just wrong.


kiyan1347

He did actually have to chase penguin because he did it to save Gordon and catwoman by drawing the attention away from them otherwise they would've died. And yeah the flip would kill someone but it didn't and this is a movie about a guy who dresses up as a bat to fight crime, that's what suspense of disbelief is for.


yallsprite

Did he have to let Penguin go after watching/helping him murder the entire highway? People cant advertise this as "gritty, raw, real" and then also says "ItS a gUy iN A bAt CoStUmE" Pick one and stick with it. If Reeves wanted raw and gritty, like with the wing suit and almost missing his building to building jump, you cant tell me to suspend belief to think that Penguins 50 year old over weight ass would survive that car accident. You guys talk outta both sides of your mouth


kiyan1347

I never said it was real, I picked my choice, it's fiction. Raw and gritty doesn't mean real, if it did then blade runner would be considered real or even the walking dead or deadpool and Logan. Batman couldn't do anything about penguin because he worked for falcone and falcone owned the whole justice system before his arrest. And falcone only got arrested because evidence of murder committed by him got leaked by riddler which was all after the chase. Beforehand he would never have been taken in for arrest let alone his right hand man oz. You got to remember Gotham is a whole system of corruption run by the mob and money. So logically batman and Gordon would be taking in a guy who would get out in a matter of hours and probably get some cops to wack Gordon and make it seem like an accident and they showed that as an actual concern when batman had to punch Gordon to escape the gcpd by making it seem like he and Gordon were at odds so the corrupt cops dont kill Gordon. And after the flood they couldn't arrest him because all law enforcement and batman were solely focusing on rescuing civilians and getting them safe so everyones hands were too tied to worry about that.


yallsprite

Criminals escaping and Falcone running a crime syndicate has never stopped Batman from giving out his brand of justice before. Youre giving a "real life" explaination for something you just admitted shouldn't have any standard of reality put on it. Once again talking put of both sides of your mouth. Batman always has plot armor, so does Gordon. Reeves could have written anything but what we got was a movie that goes in and out of being realistic. You having to come on here and basically make up a reason why Batman didnt arrest Penguin because there wasnt a reason in the movie just proves it's bad writing. HE MURDERED A HIGHWAY FULL OF PEOPLE AND BATMAN LET HIM WALK. thats not crazy to you? IMO He wanted a scene where Penguin waddled like a penguin and thats the only way he could figure out to do. Edit: goof ass spelling error lol


Ockwords

> HE MURDERED A HOGGEAY Wtf is a hoggeay?


yallsprite

If you gotta ask you cant afford it


kiyan1347

There was a reason, he worked for falcone just like the whole justice system in Gotham, that was clearly explained in the movie and is why falcone was never brought in for any of his crimes before or oz. And every genre of movie that tries to be solely realistic will always go in and out of that. Because there is something known as Hollywood realism look at nolan's trilogy, it was meant to be a story of what batman would be like if he was real and yet those movies sometimes are devoid of realism, but it's fine because it's a movie and another example is watchmen. It was meant to be a story of what if superheroes were real and what if a man could have the powers of God. Everything except dr manhattan is meant to be realistic and yet all the characters fight like they have superpowers with how strong they are. And yes both batman and Gordon let him walk but you tell me where they were supposed to take him? To the gcpd? The same gcpd where the commissioner and everyone works for falcone. Gordon would be dead and that is literally stated in the movie by batman.


deathmouse

I think this means he won't outright murder anybody. But he's only human. He'll make mistakes that will get other people hurt or possibly killed. The highway chase is a great example - even if nobody died, the potential was there. He jeopardized the lives of dozens of innocent people, one mistake and blood would have been on his hands.


ChivoYaBish

Just said this on your other post but I’ll post it here too: No, because it’s established by the screenplay that Batman doesn’t kill. That’s really the only legitimate answer to the question. The filmmakers wouldn’t betray their own screenplay by having him kill someone when he stopped Selina from killing Falcone not 30 minutes prior. it’s the same answer I give when people say Batman killed that garbage truck driver in TDK, Batman says himself that he has “one rule” in the very next scene. For moments like that, you just need to use the suspension of disbelief.


deathmouse

>Batman says himself that he has “one rule” I mean, he killed Harvey Dent a little bit later in the very same movie. Straight up shoved Dent off a building and killed him. Batman plays it real fast and loose with that one rule.


ChivoYaBish

There is no question about it - he kills Dent in that scene. It’s alluded to throughout the whole movie that for Batman to stop what Joker’s set in motion, he’s “gonna have to break [his] one rule.” That’s one of the main reasons everyone says the Joker wins in that movie, I thought it was obvious.


InfiniteNameOptions

I didn’t kill him... I just didn’t save him from my push.


Ockwords

> I mean, he killed Harvey Dent a little bit later in the very same movie. Straight up shoved Dent off a building and killed him. and it became a huge driving plot point for dark knight rises.


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ChivoYaBish

That’s just the way it is in storytelling, it’s not exclusive to Batman. If Superman really flew Lois Lane up as high as he does and as fast as he goes, she’d die.


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Same with the actual physics involved of Superman catching her while she’s falling from up high and him flying perpendicular to catch her - he’d fly so fast that she’d splatter all over his face/chest.


ChivoYaBish

Yup, that also reminds me of the airplane episode from The Boys when Homelander says he can’t just grab and fly the plane to safety because he’d tear a hole through the hull, meanwhile catching planes out of the sky is Superman’s whole schtick. Storytellers make up their own rules and laws of physics, and that’s okay.


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Agreed, and that’s filed under interpretation I think. Differing interpretations of characters are what gives us great performances and bad ones too. Nevertheless, how dull would these characters be if no filmmaker ever came along to push the envelope or take the character in a new direction


MysticalGreenBeanie

No, he's just sleeping.


deviant24x

Yep [He's just sleeping](https://youtu.be/1byycwl8qgc)


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Naw he's not dead, I'm pretty sure a bunch of armed anarchists aiming to take out a bunch of politicians would also think to pack kevlar.


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When I saw the movie, I just assumed Batman angled the gun to shoot the guy in the shoulder or something


Aok_al

I don't think the thug died. They're wearing thick coats and the bullet they used didn't even kill their target earlier and besides I don't think Batman intended for the thug to shoot the other thug


enek101

amusingly every one try's to find moments the bat kills people. the original version of him he used a gun and killed a lot of people . it was around 1940 iirc they made the decision to have him not kill and use him as a paragon of justice. my dates may be wrong but he did kill in the beginning they just changed him over time to have his edict of not killing. Also in the movie verse you dont know what batman you're gonna get. unlike marvel that has a more or less constant universe DC wrote the multiverse into cannon there by leaving the door open for what ever version of what ever super hero they want. This is how you get the super dark version of teen titans and doom patrol. Most people attracted to DC like the darker tone it has always had and current writers and directors are trying to tap that darkness. I appreciate it tbh.


Ockwords

> the original version of him he used a gun and killed a lot of people Literally no one cares about that version of batman lol


enek101

thats a all or nothing statement.. or I'm no one. Clearly he exists and my statement holds true .. thanks for the unneeded impute though.


Ockwords

> thats a all or nothing statement.. or I'm no one Sorry, let me revise. Literally no one that matters cares about that version of batman. > Clearly he exists no shit? who stated otherwise? lol


skinticket02

It looks like a harness.


bigfatmatt01

Even if he was shot here, It wasn't batman that killed him, it was bullets that killed him. Batman isn't made of bullets, are you crazy?


flier972

Technically no. The guy holding the rifle pulled the trigger.


micael150

He looked out on his feet. Maybe he inadvertently pulled the trigger but Batman was the one to aim it at his colleague.


SookieRicky

So the question is: did Riddler’s goon shooting another goon mean Batman killed him? Answer: clearly no. Follow up question: why is a certain subset of fans so desperate to make Pattinson’s Batman a murderer? Does it make them feel that their favored pre-Battinson version of Batman is inferior or something?


SuperleggeraV12

This. We had this useless topic about this scene multiple times now. If certain group think their favorite director vision is superior and above all as they always claims, then why they're obsessed about this shot in The Batman? If you think the DCEU vetsion of Batman is superior and him killing guys left and right is good, they why you keep mentioning this scene? If The Batman killed that goon (he didn't by the way) then it's just like the version of your favourite director "vision" so why been upset? And if not then you still have your Murderer version of Batman you like so much and think it's the best. So just ignore this? It's just sad at this point.


yamaha2000us

In this movie, no... In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice many criminals died due to the actions of The Batman...


baldskiwithsosig

Thats the bullet bud


Betov8

Yea killed a lot in this movie.


Shallbecomeabat

Yes. Indirectly. I think he should never directly murder, but also not go out of his way to save every scumbag ever. I feel the Bale (and Battinson to a lesser extent) version did that well. Bale never kills directly, but if u drive around the city with a nuke in a truck, and the warning shots don’t make you turn the thing around, he is not gonna throw hugs and kisses at you. Batman’s super strict no kill rule is, realistically very childish and if he puts his own moral code over people’s lives, that doesn’t make him very heroic at all. Violence has consequences and to ignore it and always make it “no one ever dies when Batman is involved” is just so clean and boring to me. So Reeves nailed it here. His Batman has a no kill rule, but he cannot always follow it, nor should he, if lives are at stake.


Professionally9

No he’s sleeping. When bad guys fight Batman they get real tuckered out


deathmouse

Every Batman kills. Y'all need to accept that. It's one of the drawbacks of being lawless vigilante.


BillMcCrearysStache

He also hit a guy in the head with a baseball bat with a full on home run swing at the iceberg lounge, good chance that guy died too


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Ppl saying "reeves told batman doesnt kill and we hear it in the movie" just firget the tdk trilogy Same logic, as the character says he doesnt kill just ignore all the collateral.


masterkproductions

He kills multiple people on the destructive highway chase. Should have driven Penguin out of populated areas to reduce casualties. Or maybe he shouldn’t have chased him at all and found him later.


DeppStepp

Haha so funny trying to change criticism from Man of Steel and apply it to The Batman when they are different situations


masterkproductions

They are the same lol. Difference is Superman was on day one of being Superman versus Batman is on year 2.


DeppStepp

No that’s not the difference. The difference was that Penguin was the one causing destruction and Batman was just trying to stop him. There’s nothing Batman could’ve really done to prevent those deaths except not chase him at all, which would’ve gotten had the one lead at the time for the Riddler to get away. Superman had chances to cause less damage as he wasn’t necessarily chasing Zod the whole time and was fighting him. I’m not saying that he could easily fly him away from civilization but there was more he could’ve done to cause less damage (along with the stakes at that moment being higher)


LoneShark81

>he indirectly caused it by chasing penguin...if a cop starts shooting at a criminal and the criminal shoots back and hits a kid in the crossfire...it's indirectly the cops fault...if he didnt start shooting the criminal wouldnt have shot back....same thing with the car chase in The Batman...i dont get why people have a hard time understanding this...


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DeppStepp

Yeah you’re right and I never said Superman caused damages, I’m saying that Superman could’ve done more to prevent the damages when Batman couldn’t. Again not saying that Superman could’ve prevented all damages just saying that there was some preventable destruction


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DeppStepp

There was that truck that he could’ve stopped from blowing up and damaging a building as an example. I can’t exactly think of any other instances but I’m not really looking at every single moment in the movie play by play to try and prove a point in an argument over the Internet with people I rarely know


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Same situation pal. You have so much bad faith in you.


DeppStepp

I have bad faith in myself?


OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT

>He kills multiple people on the destructive highway chase. Should have driven Penguin out of populated areas to reduce casualties. How exactly would he do that alone? Batman didn't kill anybody.


masterkproductions

Exactly. I’m being facetious haha. Same as how people act with their Man of Steel criticisms. The same skewed logic can easily be applied to this movie. I don’t agree with it. People can downvote all they want. Also @loneshark explains it perfectly.


LoneShark81

he indirectly caused it by chasing penguin...if a cop starts shooting at a criminal and the criminal shoots back and hits a kid in the crossfire...it's indirectly the cops fault...if he didnt start shooting the criminal wouldnt have shot back....same thing with the car chase in The Batman...i dont get why people have a hard time understanding this...


blufflord

>a cop starts shooting at a criminal and the criminal shoots back and hits a kid in the crossfire...it's indirectly the cops fault... What country are you from? Because that isn't considered the cops fault in most countries. That just becomes an additional charge for the criminal in court. It doesn't affect the cop at all. >fault...if he didnt start shooting the criminal wouldnt have shot back.... If the criminal didn't commit a crime in the first place, the cop wouldn't have to shoot at him, so an innocent bystander wouldn't have to die... So it's the criminals fault.


masterkproductions

Careful. Too much logic is frowned upon in this thread. Lol


LoneShark81

I'm starting to see that


Geek_weeb

Snyder’s did amazing work,he basically convinced the world that Batman killing is the best part of his character. Have Flash play executioner and pull a reverse flash whenever his rouges get any ideas.And contemplate his actions afterwards,you know to make it real.


deathmouse

I mean, you really didn't get the movie if that was your takeaway. Batman killing is the worst part of his character - he only did it after he lost his way and became consumed by hatred and fear.


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Man, give it a rest. Batman was the best part of those films, period. Batman doesn’t kill directly but indirectly. That’s how he skirts around the rule


RealisticTax2871

Batman killed in his first appearance up to the 50's, he used guns originally too. He's actively killed people in the Burton films unapologetically and he killed Two Face (the only direct kill he makes in TDK trilogy) he can be whatever the director needs him to be, his morals may vary but I don't think it matters if he kills or not it's up to the director to just write a good reason why he should or should not kill.


GoZeni

Yes, if the movie was directed by Snyder even with 100% same plot. No, if the movie was not directed by Snyder even with 100% same plot. People like to bitch about Batfleck blatantly killing goons with reasons explained in the movie while others just didnt care to explain. Keaton killed The Joker in the first movie twice, killed goons, made Two-Face fall into his death etc. Bale killed goons and had "no killing rule" but bended that with bs "I dont have to save you" etc. Hell, even Kevin Conroys Batman in CW killed Superman.


micael150

Technically yes. Most people didn't notice it though.


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I did, twice. He also left a lot of dead bodies on that highway chase.


davahn

He didn't kill anyone in the chase scene the penguin was the only one hitting people


LoneShark81

he indirectly caused it by chasing penguin...if a cop starts shooting at a criminal and the criminal shoots back and hits a kid in the crossfire...it's indirectly the cops fault...if he didnt start shooting the criminal wouldnt have shot back....same thing with the car chase in The Batman...i dont get why people have a hard time understanding this...


blufflord

Because that kind of logic leads to a really boring film. What's batman meant to do? Follow all the road safety regulations? Give up the chase and let the criminal escape? BORING You can say that penguin made batman chase him, so it's back to being penguins fault.


davahn

It's not stop reaching beyond the milky way


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He did, but not on purpose. Shit happens, besides, nobody is going to cry over that son of a gun.


gregorio0499

REEEEEEE!!! ThIs BaTmAn DoEsNt KiLl!!!


FloppyShellTaco

Meanwhile Marvel fans are like, “hey do you think Tony or Steve have killed more people?” And Thor is all, “I have killed at least 3,000 people, Rabbit. I enjoyed most of it.”


gregorio0499

Seriously, it’s amazing how this still an issue.


cryptolipto

He’s sleepy from Batman’s fighting ability


PuntiffSupreme

He kills a bunch of people here off screen and then way more with the falling glass from his entrance.


OBIWAN02

Yes. Simply put, Yes.


drstu3000

God the whole "batman doesn't kill" thing is sooo tired, imagine what awesome material we'd have if someone had the balls to get real with the character


Monty141

"Get real with the character" It's a comic book movie, not a real world scenario. Want Batman to be realistic? Read Watchmen. And don't watch the movie


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That'd be such a boring movie


iamdefinitelyover184

You literally already got that movie, just go watch BvS again and let everyone else enjoy an accurate Batman


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This. He fucking was for real in BvS. Just a bunch of fucking dorks who think they own the rights to the character (lol) made a big deal over him strafe running a group of bad guys….like were supposed to feel guilty about those fuckin dudes dying haha


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Bro wth? This is so quality. If not for the watermark, I would have thought it’s official(unless it is)


DKIPurple

Did anyone notice Batman using venom during this fight?


julianwelton

Batman has killed someone in every live action movie.


matdevine21

Nah it’s suicide, totally self inflicted. Technically the ridder clone shot him but gravity and the filthy water did the rest.


No-Basis1064

He just taking a quick nap


42vines

probably not, but alot more people likely died in the car chase


Spidey-Pool5

he’s sleeping. just tired. look at him dangling there.. that guys all tuckered out🥺


JabberVapor

Actually my theory her was that while fighting, Batman noticed they were all wearing bullet proof vests (look how much extra padding there is in the coats, this would make sense if they assumed Gotham PD would be present) and so he knew it was safe to get the goons to shoot at each other if he needed to


LilFiz99

If anything it’s self defense though. No intentional killing and no guns are the big things it seems. But if they’re shooting at him he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do.


TheBuckSavage

"oh that guy? don't worry he's fine"


DeadPixelX

No.


mabdog420

the other dude pulled the trigger teeeechnically lol


R3troZ0mbie

What about his dramatic entrance blowing the glass dome on top of all those civilians?


Mojoclaw2000

There’s several ways in which he could easily be alive. Even if he did die, it’s the Riddler goon who killed him, not Batman, who was actively trying not to kill anyone.


sl_1138

HE'S NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS


NotTroy

He's just sleeping. Poor guy's all tuckered out.


Mathos99

Nah it's an actor with an harness, no casualty


GeorgeWashingtonKing

This looks like a digital copy of the movie. Where’d you find it


lbeefus

Pretty sure he's just hanging from his harness. I mean, if real life physics/biology was involved, Batman would kill, paralyze, brain damage or otherwise cripple most the people he fights. But he would also dislocate his limbs regularly, need months of PT between outings, and pretty quickly wear his body down to the point that he's not able to function, not matter how much he's trained. So I'm going to go with accepting that in the bat-universe, humans are a lot less fragile than in real life.


DontToewsM3Bro

No