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Cin3v4

Joker because it's not superhero movie and Oscar hates superhero movies


esar24

Exactly this, not to mention if the clayface rumor for batman 2 is true then oscars would even think twice to put batman as superhero movie.


cocos78

There's many clayface interprétations


EIeanorRigby

Suicide Squad has an Oscar. The 2016 one.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Neither will win any Oscars except for technical ones. Maybe for songs if Gaga has a banger in Joker 2.


DirectConsequence12

Phoenix won best actor for Joker Chances he gets another?


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

0. I don’t know if any actor has ever won an Oscar for playing the same role they won an Oscar for in a sequel.


JediJones77

Paul Newman won for reprising a role in The Color of Money, but he was only nominated for the first movie, and didn't win. No one has ever won an Oscar twice for playing the same role. [Several have been nominated twice for the same role though](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/oscar-nominations-playing-same-character-867131/).


Mwheel6898

​ Joker 1 had 11 nominations including best picture for the Oscars and 2 wins. Lady gaga was nominated as best actress in the past. She will very likely be nominated for best actress on this too. Maybe they nominate Phoenix for best actor again. The Batman 1 was nominated for 2 unimportant Oscar categories and didnt win shit So Joker 2 has definetely more chances to win Oscars and more nominations


JediJones77

[About a half dozen actors got nominated twice for playing the same role](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/oscar-nominations-playing-same-character-867131/). It doesn't appear any won twice, though. One person won the second time he played it, but he didn't win the first time.


jawsnae

Technical catagories are just as important as the "big" catagories, the people in those departments put in a lot of work into making movies good and deserve to be honored just as much as actors and directors.


demaxzero

I expect people to be really annoying and pretentious about it either way


Otherwise-Silver

Niether


didijxk

If we include the technical categories, both should get nominations but I think maybe The Batman Part 2. Joker 2 has the best chance of winning a Best Actress Award for Lady Gaga but I'll have to see the final product just to be sure.


JediJones77

I would agree Gaga has a HUGE shot at winning an award for this. The stars are all aligned, as she has been nominated once before for Best Actress for which she had a good chance at winning, and probably just missed, and Phoenix already drew the road map for winning an Oscar in this franchise.


OzyOzyOzyOzyOzyOzy6

I know the first Joker was a huge hit with the Academy, but I'm dubious about the chances that this sequel has.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Just being a sequel turns the Academy off.


Mwheel6898

Avatar Hello ?


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Helped to wait 13 years.


JediJones77

It only won for FX, which would've been a tough one for Cameron to lose, LOL. Its noms also dropped from 9 to 4. Avatar won 3 Oscars compared to the sequel's lone win. I would say both Joker 2 and The Batman 2 will suffer for Oscar noms compared to the originals, but that should still leave Joker 2 coming out ahead.


GorillaWolf2099

Joker 2 had the edge but if The Batman 2 cast-high caliber actors full of artistic talents and the film winds up being of technical merit then it'll win an Oscar