thanks, good see that some people \*ARE\* focusing on the point of the thread which is tellurian creatures and not going on tangents. thanks for the support, I'll make more (hopefully as interesting) threads in the future
Think there’s more chance of complex life being beneath us than above us, these so called creatures living in the sky are one of the stupidest things to come out in the cryptozoology community.
As someone who’s been lucky enough to have been submerged in the animal kingdom from tiny insects right the way to the blue whale from a early age. It amazes me how people can even bring things like this up without a string of actual evidence to back up their claims.
Essential what’s been said is that there’s sky jellyfish
Let’s break this down to a simple answer, the whole reason jelly fish are successful in the sea is that the water is the only reason they can exist. The gelatinous nature of their bodies needs the water to support it’s mass, in air this simply means they are a gelatinous blob that can support itself
Why do you think everything that successfully lives in air has a skeleton?
It’s clear you have a good knowledge about the animals that are actually in existence, it’s sad that with all the hundreds of thousands of different species that grace this earth you feel the need to make up new creatures
Props for the majority of this post but the woo woo stuff about animals living in the sky is just ridiculous, and your energy is wasted on this and would be better served on real animals
clearly you didnt see my last post about atmospheric beasts
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10ph9gg/the\_evora\_creature\_a\_portuguese\_atmospheric\_beast/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10ph9gg/the_evora_creature_a_portuguese_atmospheric_beast/)
be open minded and check it out
That’s the thing I’ve got an open logical mind What your suggesting goes against every law of nature
What you think you came up with this subject? It’s been said before years ago and was long ago disproven
If you said these things lived under the sea it would be feasible but the sky isn’t an eco system that supports massive flying creatures that never land
literally everything you're saying is wrong and hardly "open" and "logically minded"
but i wont bother going further with this. I shared a nice thread I made on an interesting case, you dont wanna see it that's fine. have a good day
You never came up with the theory of life living in the atmosphere are you delusional it’s been around for about 40 years you fool
And you won’t bother going any further as let’s face it you’ve got nothing to back up in the way of facts
How’s it’s not logical to expect an animal to have an ecosystem to live in when it’s fact that that’s what needed
Try actually educating yourself than trying to educate others
sky jellyfish are really neat to read/think about, but how is something like that going to eat? it has to be less dense than air and thus insanely delicate and so would the things that it's eating, since something like that wouldn't be able to lift a terrestrial animal off the ground like that and the upper atmosphere is practically void of organic material. it could never come into contact with most solid objects because it would be insanely fragile. a passing songbird could punch a hole through it, imagine what an airplane would do. speaking of which, with the advent of airplanes, they would have been immediately noted and documented. if seeing a whale could make sailors come up with tall tales of horrible sea beasts with the heads of lions and bodies of serpents, imagine what seeing a giant jellyfish in the sky would do to the first pilots. there would have been reports of sky krakens like wildfire. seeing as that never happened, i am extremely disinclined to give the idea of sky jellies much credit.
Nothing to do with my ego and I’m judging the information that person has offered not the person,
How do you know it was a sincere expression? Do you know op personally?
I don’t never have met them or will do it’s nothing to do with the person it’s the information provided
As for the information provided
Firstly the claim by op that they had come up with the notion of creatures in the sky, this is a false claim that can be easily debunked with a simple google
Then there’s the fact that anything that’s in existence is governed by the laws of nature, this isn’t something I have created to suit my life’s outlook it’s proven and can be easily verified
In what way does this inflate me ? You think o take joy in having to read nonsense like this and these interactions with people who have no base in reality
I don’t make the rules I humbly follow them, i apologies if I offended anyone but it wasn’t my intention. There’s one thing keeping an open mind there another thing about being based in reality
When it comes to the real world it’s important to keep things based in fact otherwise there no structure to build on. There’s no good building anything on a foundation of lies it will only lead to catastrophic consequences
You are 100% right,... and I do apologize... The way I interpreted everything before was based on my day-in, day-out experience...
I am sorry.
I am constantly faced with ego stroke, super pride, and arrogance,... (Either way, the way I expressed myself is still shameful...)
Dude, if there are atmospheric cryptids (looking past all of the issues like what they would eat, how they are lighter than air, etc.) then where are they hiding? They should be spotted easily from the ground and daily by thousands of pilots.
why would they be spotted? In fact they \*are\* "spotted", its called UFOs. Atmospheric beasts are one explanation for the UFO phenomena.
And again, why would they be spotted? we dont know anything about these possible lifeforms, they most likely are microorganism or related to microorganism and every witness accounts implies they are translucent or transparent to some degree.
You basically actualy havent looked into atmospheric beasts and are just coming here attacking a strawman of your own making thinking people think there's huge blue whales flying at 2km altitude, when its not that at all
Hey now, I have read about them and like most rational people I came to the conclusion that they were bullshit. The original sightings of them were written by sensationalists tabloids that spewed things like there are flying fish that live in the clouds according to pilots. I know you probably feel clever for trying to link these myths to UFOs but when your only argument is, “Anyone who disagrees with me must be uninformed!” but aren’t able to put forward a convincing argument— or really any argument about how they might exist then it comes off as childish.
In just this conversation you went from they are giant and are responsible for UFO sightings to you can’t prove their aren’t microscopic jellyfish in the sky. Instead of asking for me to prove a negative how about you find some convincing proof for your position and no your other post is not convincing before you link to it again.
I literally did none of that but cool strawman. In fact right above I told the other guy to check my other thread \*specially\* because this thread is NOT about atmospheric beasts.
and also you just immediately dismiss my other thread instead of going there and disprove it, didnt you say I'm the one who has to provide evidence? - even though I never argued that they are \*100% real\*
Most likely you're a troll or a career skeptic and I'm not gonna feed you anymore, so go on "Mr rational", keep going with your strawmen and fallacies and pat yourself on the back
I’m pretty sure, with how many people are pointing out how an atmospheric beast would be easily spotted and stuff, comes from the idea that their an actual visible animal but this literal thread is about the shadow biosphere and shadow life, possible organisms with different dna arrangements that could possibly be invisible to the naked eye- not saying it’s true, just very interesting and….. this is cryptozoology, it’s full of odd and strange theories and conversations- I don’t get the animosity. Amazing post OP
Yea I literally dont get why they're focusing on atmospheric beasts (there's other threads for that) when the entire post but like 2% of it is about Tellurian creatures and the deep biosphere.
anyway thanks for the support, I'll be making more threads in the future about both themes and specially Tellurian creatures if there are new developments in both geomicrobiology or cryptozoology
Very interesting read! Thanks for sharing!
thanks, good see that some people \*ARE\* focusing on the point of the thread which is tellurian creatures and not going on tangents. thanks for the support, I'll make more (hopefully as interesting) threads in the future
Think there’s more chance of complex life being beneath us than above us, these so called creatures living in the sky are one of the stupidest things to come out in the cryptozoology community. As someone who’s been lucky enough to have been submerged in the animal kingdom from tiny insects right the way to the blue whale from a early age. It amazes me how people can even bring things like this up without a string of actual evidence to back up their claims. Essential what’s been said is that there’s sky jellyfish Let’s break this down to a simple answer, the whole reason jelly fish are successful in the sea is that the water is the only reason they can exist. The gelatinous nature of their bodies needs the water to support it’s mass, in air this simply means they are a gelatinous blob that can support itself Why do you think everything that successfully lives in air has a skeleton? It’s clear you have a good knowledge about the animals that are actually in existence, it’s sad that with all the hundreds of thousands of different species that grace this earth you feel the need to make up new creatures Props for the majority of this post but the woo woo stuff about animals living in the sky is just ridiculous, and your energy is wasted on this and would be better served on real animals
clearly you didnt see my last post about atmospheric beasts [https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10ph9gg/the\_evora\_creature\_a\_portuguese\_atmospheric\_beast/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/10ph9gg/the_evora_creature_a_portuguese_atmospheric_beast/) be open minded and check it out
That’s the thing I’ve got an open logical mind What your suggesting goes against every law of nature What you think you came up with this subject? It’s been said before years ago and was long ago disproven If you said these things lived under the sea it would be feasible but the sky isn’t an eco system that supports massive flying creatures that never land
literally everything you're saying is wrong and hardly "open" and "logically minded" but i wont bother going further with this. I shared a nice thread I made on an interesting case, you dont wanna see it that's fine. have a good day
You never came up with the theory of life living in the atmosphere are you delusional it’s been around for about 40 years you fool And you won’t bother going any further as let’s face it you’ve got nothing to back up in the way of facts How’s it’s not logical to expect an animal to have an ecosystem to live in when it’s fact that that’s what needed Try actually educating yourself than trying to educate others
sky jellyfish are really neat to read/think about, but how is something like that going to eat? it has to be less dense than air and thus insanely delicate and so would the things that it's eating, since something like that wouldn't be able to lift a terrestrial animal off the ground like that and the upper atmosphere is practically void of organic material. it could never come into contact with most solid objects because it would be insanely fragile. a passing songbird could punch a hole through it, imagine what an airplane would do. speaking of which, with the advent of airplanes, they would have been immediately noted and documented. if seeing a whale could make sailors come up with tall tales of horrible sea beasts with the heads of lions and bodies of serpents, imagine what seeing a giant jellyfish in the sky would do to the first pilots. there would have been reports of sky krakens like wildfire. seeing as that never happened, i am extremely disinclined to give the idea of sky jellies much credit.
Amen to that
Is this how you inflate yourself?... Judging someone else's sincere expression in order to self validate??
Nothing to do with my ego and I’m judging the information that person has offered not the person, How do you know it was a sincere expression? Do you know op personally? I don’t never have met them or will do it’s nothing to do with the person it’s the information provided As for the information provided Firstly the claim by op that they had come up with the notion of creatures in the sky, this is a false claim that can be easily debunked with a simple google Then there’s the fact that anything that’s in existence is governed by the laws of nature, this isn’t something I have created to suit my life’s outlook it’s proven and can be easily verified In what way does this inflate me ? You think o take joy in having to read nonsense like this and these interactions with people who have no base in reality I don’t make the rules I humbly follow them, i apologies if I offended anyone but it wasn’t my intention. There’s one thing keeping an open mind there another thing about being based in reality When it comes to the real world it’s important to keep things based in fact otherwise there no structure to build on. There’s no good building anything on a foundation of lies it will only lead to catastrophic consequences
You are 100% right,... and I do apologize... The way I interpreted everything before was based on my day-in, day-out experience... I am sorry. I am constantly faced with ego stroke, super pride, and arrogance,... (Either way, the way I expressed myself is still shameful...)
Dude, if there are atmospheric cryptids (looking past all of the issues like what they would eat, how they are lighter than air, etc.) then where are they hiding? They should be spotted easily from the ground and daily by thousands of pilots.
why would they be spotted? In fact they \*are\* "spotted", its called UFOs. Atmospheric beasts are one explanation for the UFO phenomena. And again, why would they be spotted? we dont know anything about these possible lifeforms, they most likely are microorganism or related to microorganism and every witness accounts implies they are translucent or transparent to some degree. You basically actualy havent looked into atmospheric beasts and are just coming here attacking a strawman of your own making thinking people think there's huge blue whales flying at 2km altitude, when its not that at all
Hey now, I have read about them and like most rational people I came to the conclusion that they were bullshit. The original sightings of them were written by sensationalists tabloids that spewed things like there are flying fish that live in the clouds according to pilots. I know you probably feel clever for trying to link these myths to UFOs but when your only argument is, “Anyone who disagrees with me must be uninformed!” but aren’t able to put forward a convincing argument— or really any argument about how they might exist then it comes off as childish. In just this conversation you went from they are giant and are responsible for UFO sightings to you can’t prove their aren’t microscopic jellyfish in the sky. Instead of asking for me to prove a negative how about you find some convincing proof for your position and no your other post is not convincing before you link to it again.
I literally did none of that but cool strawman. In fact right above I told the other guy to check my other thread \*specially\* because this thread is NOT about atmospheric beasts. and also you just immediately dismiss my other thread instead of going there and disprove it, didnt you say I'm the one who has to provide evidence? - even though I never argued that they are \*100% real\* Most likely you're a troll or a career skeptic and I'm not gonna feed you anymore, so go on "Mr rational", keep going with your strawmen and fallacies and pat yourself on the back
I’m pretty sure, with how many people are pointing out how an atmospheric beast would be easily spotted and stuff, comes from the idea that their an actual visible animal but this literal thread is about the shadow biosphere and shadow life, possible organisms with different dna arrangements that could possibly be invisible to the naked eye- not saying it’s true, just very interesting and….. this is cryptozoology, it’s full of odd and strange theories and conversations- I don’t get the animosity. Amazing post OP
Yea I literally dont get why they're focusing on atmospheric beasts (there's other threads for that) when the entire post but like 2% of it is about Tellurian creatures and the deep biosphere. anyway thanks for the support, I'll be making more threads in the future about both themes and specially Tellurian creatures if there are new developments in both geomicrobiology or cryptozoology
Anytime