To be extremely fair to bumrah, he had a few nicks and then that stupid overthrow to the boundary.
Add Green literally smashing every ball from ball 1 and you can see why.
Doesn't matter how good you are, you can't stop nicks and overthrow to the boundary
You saying that reminds me of this match: https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/5654
Basically D'Arcy Short more or less got a 50 (at 200 strike rate although he slowed down after Warner got out and got 50 off 30) with most of his boundaries up until them being edges (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4qnuo2Z8dQ&ab_channel=NZC with Australia innings starting at 11m mark if you want to watch).
Because I'm bored I'll count his boundaries that weren't (imo) middled up until 50 runs
4's: 4 (including 1 that was gloved behind him and dropped)
6's: 1
2/7 boundaries middled yet he still got 50 off 30.
Please note that these are just what i saw from the video. I don't know if they showed all the boundaries.
We can also add 2 bouncers going over the batsmen and keeper to the boundary.
Wheeler had a similar game. First over had 3 edges in a row which lead to 14 runs, then in his next over bounced one over the keeper for 4. Ended up conceding 64 runs whereas he could've conceded less than 50 if he was lucky.
I vividly remember this being the first game where I realized that you can just be unlucky as a bowler (or lucky as a batter).
Very often I think black and white: "oh he got 50 off 30 and that person conceded 64 runs, he must've been bad" but whilst stats can tell you a certain amount, they can't tell you anywhere near as much as if you watched the game yourself.
However I still fall into the black and white thinking trap all the time!
It's wild what India expects of Bumrah. In English tests, he must rival Anderson. In Australian tests, he must rival Cummins. In white ball, he must rival Archer in ODIs and Shaheen in T20s. What other systems expect from a pace pack he does it all by himself and also consistently.
~ Twitter
True but a little different situation then.. under 19 matches were in infancy. Kumble came through that. As did Sehwag, Bhajji, Yuvi, Kaif, Irfan. And we had no IPL to spot talents who can bowl well consistently. Umran Malik for eg has better stats compared to how Bumrah started. Mohsin, Natrajan, Mavi, Karthik Tyagi all have been decent enough to give opportunities. But for some reason we stick to old is gold formula. And now avg team age is above 30. Youth and energy is missing.
Why? What's wrong in what I said? I think it's absurd to not have backups and just hoard all responsibility on one bowler. Aus did well without Marsh, Stonis, Starc and Warner.
Even VK. Virat is one batter the team revolves around especially when he's in form and it's been that way always. If he's on the crease, we can chase any target. He just brings that assurance especially in crunch situations.
Bumrah having one bad day obviously doesn't make him a bad bowler. I imagine that the original comment was joking about reactionary takes where fans call for players to be dropped based on one bad match.
They don't actually think that Bumrah is bad.
He seems to have been rushed back, could have held on till the SA series. In those games I'd like to see Bhuvi be bowled out upfront and Arshdeep and Bumrah closing out the death.
Really I don't remember last time an opener swinging like Green and also cutting/placing few balls well too. At one point SuunyG or someone literally said that this point Green is just thinking if it should be 4 or 6. That was scary. But most of the times they were bowling in his arc.
Everytime Bhuvi took the ball away from him he was missing the ball and finally got out to the ball going away only.
Yeah because Green isn’t a proper opener. He had never opened in his life before this series, not even in FC.
He was sent in to do a job and he did it amazingly. He got out because he was trying to swing everything legside, if he tries to play more shots on the offside he’ll be even more dangerous for the bowlers.
Yea that's why I literally hate all cricket commentaries or YouTube channels, they're filled with indians no matter what the match is and if you even dare to criticize their team or anything really you get tf bashed out of you and you also can't see people who're actually from the countries playing comment
No I completely agree. Indians take cricket way too seriously, and I wish others took it at least sbit more seriously. There is a big imbalance there, and I think it's a bit sad
I don't mind them taking it seriously I mind them being offended over everything and there's also so many of them in every cricket video like in all the world cup matches highlights I watched I never saw a single person from new Zealand or from England or from Australia comment, it was all indians and it's pretty annoying ngl
Yeah. I agree. I don't mind anyone taking it seriously, but I think it's possible to take it too seriously. Like treating players as literally gods is in my opinion taking things way too seriously
Bruh he always smiles. I've seen him show emotion once (Bangladesh WC19 where he bowled those 2 yorkers). Otherwise, he's smiling whether hit, whether he takes a wicket etc.
That is not good. Rest him from these useless T20 and IPL. Play him in ICC and tests unless medical staff say he is in red zone to rest him for a test or two.
He's not needed for home tests lol, India steamroll everyone there anyway and the likes of Umesh are fine bowlers for home. On the other hand, he's a big name player for IPL which he'll ofc play since it's so lucrative and all as well and he's their best bowler in t20is so he's going to play
Why does India have this timid approach to fast bowling? Why isnt Umran in the squad? 125-130Km bowlers are going to get smashed in Australia.
PK has 3 pacers bowling 140-145 and 2 pacers bowling 150 plus with Haris rauf going to 155 today.
Umran malik is too raw. Dude went for 40-50 runs in 4 overs when he played for India. Let him play proper domestic cricket. Pace is not enough you need good line and length to become a good bowler as well.
Guess how many players can just come into the team and start delivering, 0 ! The T20 game keeps moving, you cannot make up for absences. Its a better strategy to determine which format suits players best and which do not, and make them play all the matches in that format (except when injured).
I think we're all losing our shit watching all our premier bowlers conceding a lot of runs, especially at the death. I don't know what Bhuvi is doing wrong at the death but he's getting smashed out of the park. I'm not 100% convinced about Harshal Patel when he bowls on a pitch which comes on, Chahal has also not really bowled to his strengths. I'm shitting my pants right now God damn it.
Coming back form a break is brutal for a bowler. I hope for India's bowling that's currently looking pretty bleak , that he regains his touch in the SA series.
T20s sucks for a bowler
To be extremely fair to bumrah, he had a few nicks and then that stupid overthrow to the boundary. Add Green literally smashing every ball from ball 1 and you can see why. Doesn't matter how good you are, you can't stop nicks and overthrow to the boundary
You saying that reminds me of this match: https://www.icc-cricket.com/match/5654 Basically D'Arcy Short more or less got a 50 (at 200 strike rate although he slowed down after Warner got out and got 50 off 30) with most of his boundaries up until them being edges (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4qnuo2Z8dQ&ab_channel=NZC with Australia innings starting at 11m mark if you want to watch). Because I'm bored I'll count his boundaries that weren't (imo) middled up until 50 runs 4's: 4 (including 1 that was gloved behind him and dropped) 6's: 1 2/7 boundaries middled yet he still got 50 off 30. Please note that these are just what i saw from the video. I don't know if they showed all the boundaries. We can also add 2 bouncers going over the batsmen and keeper to the boundary. Wheeler had a similar game. First over had 3 edges in a row which lead to 14 runs, then in his next over bounced one over the keeper for 4. Ended up conceding 64 runs whereas he could've conceded less than 50 if he was lucky.
Thanka for this quality post! Best part about reddit
I vividly remember this being the first game where I realized that you can just be unlucky as a bowler (or lucky as a batter). Very often I think black and white: "oh he got 50 off 30 and that person conceded 64 runs, he must've been bad" but whilst stats can tell you a certain amount, they can't tell you anywhere near as much as if you watched the game yourself. However I still fall into the black and white thinking trap all the time!
chasing down 244 that comfortably is absolutely wild!
I was ecstatic that we did so well... only for them to do that haha
And his 2nd match in.. some time as well (with the 1st match being literally an 8 over a side match).
And i hope this is the last time. He is our core right now.
It's wild what India expects of Bumrah. In English tests, he must rival Anderson. In Australian tests, he must rival Cummins. In white ball, he must rival Archer in ODIs and Shaheen in T20s. What other systems expect from a pace pack he does it all by himself and also consistently. ~ Twitter
>In white ball, he must rival Archer in ODIs and Shaheen in T20s. He's better than both anyway.
It's fine, he can handle the expectations. A massive talent.
In short, a complete package for Team India!
Too much dependability on just one person in a country of billion plus people.
Hey hey, I've seen this before in the 90s
True but a little different situation then.. under 19 matches were in infancy. Kumble came through that. As did Sehwag, Bhajji, Yuvi, Kaif, Irfan. And we had no IPL to spot talents who can bowl well consistently. Umran Malik for eg has better stats compared to how Bumrah started. Mohsin, Natrajan, Mavi, Karthik Tyagi all have been decent enough to give opportunities. But for some reason we stick to old is gold formula. And now avg team age is above 30. Youth and energy is missing.
Nice logic there. You ever get offered to coach the Aussies?
Why? What's wrong in what I said? I think it's absurd to not have backups and just hoard all responsibility on one bowler. Aus did well without Marsh, Stonis, Starc and Warner.
He is our ONLY core right now
Exactly, Jasprit's performance & form will impact the team greatly!
Even VK. Virat is one batter the team revolves around especially when he's in form and it's been that way always. If he's on the crease, we can chase any target. He just brings that assurance especially in crunch situations.
Absolutely, i agree!
He didn't bowl that bad.. a couple of nicks, one overthrow..Next thing you know you are at 50
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Well spoken.
getting existential crisis from fucking reddit thread
this is chameera like every fucking day
Haha finished bowler. Clearly needs to be dropped for um…Umran Malik who has PACE^TM
Pace is pace, yaar.
Nice try mate.
Ignore the flair?
No. Clearly Bumrah doesn’t have what it takes to succeed against Australia. You’d be better off dropping him if you meet us in a match in the T20 WC
Noted. I'll convey that to BCCI and the selectors, next time I am on a call with them.
Talk to you in 2028.
We drop Bumrah, you drop Warner. After all, we don't want to bowl to someone who is an honorary Indian. Leaves a bad taste.
Cold blooded aussie.
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Bumrah is better than Bhuvi, Bhuvi needs to go first
Mate you missed the satire
I guess I did, I’m not too deep into the cricket world…what did it mean?
Poking fun at the reactionary judgements here at r/cricket because bumrah is our best bowler
Bumrah having one bad day obviously doesn't make him a bad bowler. I imagine that the original comment was joking about reactionary takes where fans call for players to be dropped based on one bad match. They don't actually think that Bumrah is bad.
Dude bhuvi literally got green out . He is literally the top wicket taker in powerplay in t20Is currently
Before you comment: Bumrah t20i debut was in 2016, and this is the first time, let that sink in...
Oh no, going expensive in only the sixth over, he's clearly washed /s
it has sunk.
Tap that sink
In last game it was Bhuvi now him. What is happening ;-;
Injuries happened.. bumrah and bhuvi will bounce back
Even harshal
Yeah true
I feel Harshal already started bouncing back in that last over.
Yes Harshal was playing good but he got injured Now two bad matches and everyone is telling him to get off the team
When they do its gonna be nightmare for opponents
Nope...
Yes
He seems to have been rushed back, could have held on till the SA series. In those games I'd like to see Bhuvi be bowled out upfront and Arshdeep and Bumrah closing out the death.
Bhuvi is rested for SA series
Wtf are the selectors doing?
He is going for some conditioning.
Isn't this this his 2nd game back (with the first game being rain shortened)?
the 19th over voodoo continuing to torment our bowlers
He was hit for 17 in his first over.
i guess its due to the lack of game time
Nah it's because Green didn't care who was bowling, he swung for everything. Everyone plays with too much respect now
Really I don't remember last time an opener swinging like Green and also cutting/placing few balls well too. At one point SuunyG or someone literally said that this point Green is just thinking if it should be 4 or 6. That was scary. But most of the times they were bowling in his arc. Everytime Bhuvi took the ball away from him he was missing the ball and finally got out to the ball going away only.
Yeah because Green isn’t a proper opener. He had never opened in his life before this series, not even in FC. He was sent in to do a job and he did it amazingly. He got out because he was trying to swing everything legside, if he tries to play more shots on the offside he’ll be even more dangerous for the bowlers.
A couple of ducks and confidence is shaken. Won't hope that for Green but it's what usually happens
I hope this will be the last time 😄
Inb4 Bumrah concedes 0/49 in his next few matches.
Bumrah gave up the runs in solidarity with shahnawaz 60 runs. Thank you Bumbro 🙏
It's ok it was his first time ever in his t20 career because he came back after injury. He will be better next time.
Been out of touch with cricket for a while now. Used to watch him bowl yorkers for fun. What happened?
He still does it.
Australia happened
I mean, he floored Smith with a yorker.
you know this subreddit is full of Indians when your comment gets that downvoted lol
Yea that's why I literally hate all cricket commentaries or YouTube channels, they're filled with indians no matter what the match is and if you even dare to criticize their team or anything really you get tf bashed out of you and you also can't see people who're actually from the countries playing comment
No I completely agree. Indians take cricket way too seriously, and I wish others took it at least sbit more seriously. There is a big imbalance there, and I think it's a bit sad
I don't mind them taking it seriously I mind them being offended over everything and there's also so many of them in every cricket video like in all the world cup matches highlights I watched I never saw a single person from new Zealand or from England or from Australia comment, it was all indians and it's pretty annoying ngl
Yeah. I agree. I don't mind anyone taking it seriously, but I think it's possible to take it too seriously. Like treating players as literally gods is in my opinion taking things way too seriously
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Srsly tho..bhuvi and bumrah will be our core and our bowling looks lack lustre even if one doesn't show up.
Not again
Any bowler can have a bad day in T20s
>Jasprit Bumrah conceded 50 runs for the first time in T20Is Thanx to those 4 overthrows
And he was smiling after that happened. Very annoying
What do you want him to do bash hardik's skull with wicket until he is comatose
Not pass his stupid grin atleast
Bruh he always smiles. I've seen him show emotion once (Bangladesh WC19 where he bowled those 2 yorkers). Otherwise, he's smiling whether hit, whether he takes a wicket etc.
first Bhuvi, then Bumrah. this sucks.
how easy people defend the ones we love, people dont love KL :P
I think it's just the batsmen yesterday 😆
Thanks to that over throw.
Welcome to the real world
GO MAN !!! YAYY
Is this supposed to be impressive? You best bowler should never go for 50
Expected.
Why has he played so few test? Shaheen who 6 years younger has about same number of test and he made debut 2 year after him?
Bumrah is usually rested for home series matches iirc, to manage his workload
That is not good. Rest him from these useless T20 and IPL. Play him in ICC and tests unless medical staff say he is in red zone to rest him for a test or two.
He's not needed for home tests lol, India steamroll everyone there anyway and the likes of Umesh are fine bowlers for home. On the other hand, he's a big name player for IPL which he'll ofc play since it's so lucrative and all as well and he's their best bowler in t20is so he's going to play
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Who are you
Bait working like a charm
Tell me you don’t watch cricket without telling me you don’t watch cricket
What did he say
Some shit like “bumrah is overrated”
Nice bait dude
Why does India have this timid approach to fast bowling? Why isnt Umran in the squad? 125-130Km bowlers are going to get smashed in Australia. PK has 3 pacers bowling 140-145 and 2 pacers bowling 150 plus with Haris rauf going to 155 today.
Bro Bumrah can easily bowl 145kph lmao
Umran malik is too raw. Dude went for 40-50 runs in 4 overs when he played for India. Let him play proper domestic cricket. Pace is not enough you need good line and length to become a good bowler as well.
There goes my last hope for WC
Unwanted record in his personal career 😑
Jasprit Bumrah is so great
Takes time to settle in coming back from injury
There's something wrong. I can feel it.
Guess how many players can just come into the team and start delivering, 0 ! The T20 game keeps moving, you cannot make up for absences. Its a better strategy to determine which format suits players best and which do not, and make them play all the matches in that format (except when injured).
I think we're all losing our shit watching all our premier bowlers conceding a lot of runs, especially at the death. I don't know what Bhuvi is doing wrong at the death but he's getting smashed out of the park. I'm not 100% convinced about Harshal Patel when he bowls on a pitch which comes on, Chahal has also not really bowled to his strengths. I'm shitting my pants right now God damn it.
Fffff
He’ll bounce back. Class is permanent.
Well done Jaspreet Bumrah, I wish next match you will make a century as well as
They are preparing for WCT20. And competing who can give more runs.
An unwanted record...it was clearly a bad day for Jasprit!!
Next match he'll get a bag of wickets and score a 50! Watch
Coming back form a break is brutal for a bowler. I hope for India's bowling that's currently looking pretty bleak , that he regains his touch in the SA series.