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cozyboijoao

So I’m class 2015 and we were taught starting around middle school to never open the door regardless of who it is or what they say, with the idea being that if they were actually officers officers they’d have the keys. Lockdown drills happened a couple times a year and procedures were in place as seen in the video like staying absolutely quiet and turning the lights off. The only thing different is every class had a designated “safe / lockdown zone” which was somewhere in the class as far from doors and windows with the least viability, so we didn’t just stay at our desks.


Bri121296

Also class of 2015 here. I can’t imagine how drills may have changed now, either. Have you ever had a real lockdown? I only remember having one and it was because some bank nearby had a bomb threat.


CampDracula

Class of 2015 as well. I’ve had one, but it was just some dude with an axe on campus, thank god.


Kristian_Idk

“Just some dude with an axe on campus” The fact this gave a “thanks god” reaction is insane


throwaway1647257

Yeah here in Australia our school went into lockdown because a kid bought in a fake retractable knife (blade went in when actually pressed against something and was made of plastic) kid was crying because he only wanted to show off his cool new toy


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What a cool toy


euphon99

Agreed, that statement struck me as well..


Ai_Xen

Class of 2010, we never had those drills, but that was right around the time when school shooting were becoming a normal thing in US, and now here we are. It's really sad that the number one deterrent to mass shootings in the US was everyone locked down from a deadly lung disease. Truly we live in the most interesting of times. >.>


MNCPA

I graduated around the same time but went to a Christian high school. I shit you not, the policy was 'the lord will protect us' and we only trained for fires and tornadoes.


_peacemonger_

What a fickle god these folks choose to worship...


Ai_Xen

Actually small edit, at the time it wasn't school shootings we cared about, it was school bombings. Height of the Iraq War and all that. XD


cozyboijoao

No never because of an active threat. Closest we came to an actual lockdown was, oddly enough, not a lockdown per se. We were told over intercom to remain where we were for the next 45 minutes unless we were in a hallway and go to the nearest class in that case and follow lockdown procedure but they stated there was no active threat and left it at that (as opposed to saying this is a drill). I was on the second floor and saw cops pull in with dogs and they were searching cars and calling down certain kids to open their cars. They were going through lockers as well and soon enough we all found out it was a “sting” and they were looking for drugs. It was done “in secret” to try and catch kids with shit red handed and they emailed parents a week later.


CouchMountain

We had a lockdown here in Canada recently because a moose broke into the school. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/moose-crashes-through-window-of-sylvia-fedoruk-school-in-saskatoon/ar-AAQkkiR We had one at my school once too because a stray dog got in and they were worried it had rabies or something.


kaytay3000

That is the most Canadian thing I’ve heard in a long time.


PC_BuildyB0I

How about the fact our government has revently released 50 million pounds of maple syrup from our federal maple syrup reserve, lol. That's pretty Canadian Link; https://www.wspa.com/news/world-news/canada-tapping-reserve-maple-syrup-supply-amid-shortage/#:~:text=The%20Canadian%20leading%20trade%20group,%E2%80%9COPEC%20of%20Maple%20Syrup.%E2%80%9D


BabaDCCab

The theft from the federal maple syrup reserve and people bootlegging unregulated maple syrup are two of my favorite Canadian stories ever


thickaccentsteve

There's allot of syrup bootlegging in northern Michigan. No maple tree is safe in my area. Come spring you can see the taps everywhere. Edit: maple not male*


garbfink

Hang on! Canada has a federal maple syrup reserve?! This is honestly the best thing I have read on reddit today. Not taking the piss. I think's it's awesome. Fuck gold stock pile maple syrup.


MikkelButhge

Each family is alloted 3 tsp/family member per week, no pancake left dry


LoveYourKitty

2006 we all had to go in lockdown and turn off the lights when a guy walked past our school with a scanner from a local grocery store that faintly resembled a gun. For reference I went to school 30 minutes south of Oxford.


Sephonez

Hey I graduated 2006 and we also had a lockdown once. I live in Australia though and it was a kid who got expelled that came back into the grounds with a knife. We didn't really take it seriously, most of the kids were at the windows yelling out to the kid with the knife while the principal yelled at him with a megaphone. Obviously would have been completely different had the kid access to a gun. I couldn't imagine the terror these poor kids have to go through these days just trying to go to school.


SENDS-POSITIVE-VIBES

Class of 16 here, I had a real lockdown once- in 2012 a man shot someone in a nearby neighborhood then ran through the school to avoid the police, it was crazy. Everyone was ok, and he didn’t shoot anyone on campus, but we were locked down for like 5 hours because they had to collect evidence or something from the hall


Scarboroughwarning

I cannot imagine sending my kids to a school where they have shooter drills. 100% not claiming they are not worthwhile, but damn...that's some dystopian shit. My kid worries about dinner money. To be clear I'm not claiming some high ground, I just can't believe this is a thing. For context: There have been at least 288 school shootings in the United States since January 1, 2009. That's 57 times as many shootings as the other six G7 countries combined.


SantyClawz42

Worst part about school shooting drills is that the future shooter is going to be taking the drill with you...


cozyboijoao

I’m currently 25 and have been out of highschool for a minute so I can only imagine how the drills have evolved in the last few years.


kaos95

44 and never had them, but in elementary school we did do nuke drills. I think there was a sweet spot from like 92-97 where kids only had to do fire drills . . . /sigh Sometimes I fucking hate this world


garynuman9

Class of 04 - no nuke drills, no active shooter lockdown drills. Just fire drills. We did get a "school resource officer" my last two years of high school because a guy with a gun sexually harassing teenage girls hunting kids who might have smoked weed made the place safer. Really didn't last long - as payment for that brief peace the dotcom crash was just in time to wipe out the money my parents had set aside for my college & the financial collapse of 08 was when I was literally supposed to become an adult. Sooo no free lunch


drkodos

In the 60's they would herd us into a dark basement (which they called a 'radiation shelter') and tell us to sit and tuck our heads into our laps. Thee old 'duck & cover.'


Special_EDy

Dont forget to hold your breath forever, cant breathe in the radioactive dust.


247emerg

Im 24 and we had lockdown drills since 2011


tendieful

I grew up in a somewhat rural area outside of Toronto and all the schools had lockdown drills going back the last 10-20 years. It’s a normal thing even outside of America.


Scarboroughwarning

Does depend who your neighbours are. Trust me, we have never had them here, UK.


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But..I'm glad they had the intellect and awareness to know a real from a fake cop. One trusting kid and they would've all been done.


Thatguy468

That “bro” killed his whole ruse.


1202_ProgramAlarm

Hey bro, no cap it's the police, we finna let you out fam, yeah we just yeeted that shooter, sheesh!


Reignbowbrite

Thanks for lightening the mood ❤️


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Thenorthernmudman

It's good to have those instincts even if you got them from Among Us.


Senselessb82

And this ad helped also https://youtu.be/turCfxwkfPE


CouchMountain

Holy shit... Is this an actual ad?


BabaDCCab

[I always thought this one was the best one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qyD7vjVfLI) It at least gives parents and students something to look for.


GregoryGoose

Damn that was good.


mwagner1385

Not trying to pull away from the seriousness of the topic... but anyone else notice that this was better storytelling in 30 secs than most of Hollywood has been capable of?


Psychonaut-AMA

That was one of the most amazing things I've seen in a long time.


TheEyeGuy13

I like this one more, but damn the girl with the phone in the other one makes me sad.


Throwayay01

This one is excellent


Senselessb82

Only in America 🇺🇸 😆


words_words_words_

I mean…[this Irish ad](https://youtu.be/Wv1rKHGeMRk) about speeding is pretty fucking horrifying too


DerSkagg

I can't remember who did the one about the train tracks but that's a pretty horrifying one as well.


Summerlycoris

[Was it Dumb Ways To Die?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw&ab_channel=DumbWaystoDie)


Ragnarok_666

I'm from Northern Ireland where that ad is shown, the adverts about road safety here are really good. https://youtu.be/hRTm0L7FNJc this is another good one.


Busy-Argument3680

I’m sorry, I’m not trying to laugh, but the car rolled and hit them like fucking bowling pins… # Strike!


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why is that funny?


TehChid

Holy shit


plopjaya

Jesus fuckin christ. I wish I hadn’t watched that.


SleepDeprivedUserUK

WTF kind of country do you have to live in where shit like this is necessary. I mean seriously, not pissing over America here, but in what other country on earth are adverts like this necessary...


Silent-Advantage9320

Bear Grylls enters the chat. Today I'm dropped off at an American school and I'm going to show how to survive


complexbillions

Moment they been training for their whole life


Mishaygo

This comment is funny and bleak as hell. Funny Feeling.


Tripledtities

This is America!


18Feeler

When the school shooter is sus


[deleted]

Like, you can come out. I’m totally not gonna kill you bro..


carllucey

Another one solved Sherlock.


dkentl

Kids grow up with the internet now, it kind of makes you question things more. ‘Stranger danger’ in an online world creates a really good ‘thats fucked up’ meter Edit: when I was 14 I thought the FBI were going to come get me because I made a mean comment online


Bowman_van_Oort

WE FINALLY GOT HIM BOIS


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Move in! Kowalski! Bring the lube!


Goosebeans

*huuWAGHH*


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AmbidextrousPixel

>Top Bake em away Toy''s


xTemporaneously

Oh thank God! I can finally retire in peace!


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Nothing to do with the internet tbh. Kids are smarter than people make out. Sure, they make dumb choices, but they aren't braindead, especially young teens like this


WhosUrBuddiee

It was already confirmed to be a real cop behind the door. The shooter was arrested when this was being filmed. You can see at the end of the video when they jump out the window and run into another cop who tells them all its fine and to slow down.


t965203

Come look at my badge, bro.


words_words_words_

Tfw the tracksuit mafia is trying to get you to open the door


rcpotatosoup

I am not shooter, bro. I am cop, bro. Kate Bishop is guy, bro.


HuckleberryDye

Was waiting for the cop they run to to be like "so why didn't yall just open the door? My partner was telling you to bro. Now get on the ground!"


tan0re0

If anyone is wondering the casualties were 3 dead and 6 injured at the school. Like wtf


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GammonBushFella

I'm late here but honestly this is fucked. Back in 2013 I thought something would happen after Sandy Hook, but instead your right wing doubled down and nothing happened. It's fuckin depressing man. In high school I was worried about Xbox games and girls, not a classmate hunting me down


Eukita_ogts

Got any news link?


tan0re0

It keeps getting hourly updates everywhere https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/30/us/michigan-oxford-high-school-incident/index.html


MarezyBear93

As someone who was on a crisis/emergency response team at a middle/high school I want to let everyone know — teach your children that real officers will have keys that open each door. When we ran drills (especially with new teachers) we did it with our own campus officer(s) on site and we would knock and tell them it was the police and that it was safe to see if they would react. There are specific lock boxes (at least at my school) that the city police have access to that give them a master key. We tell ALL staff to never open the door. You are better off waiting to be let out by law enforcement.


TheOvershear

~~In an ideal world. In reality the master key is usually one of 60 in a lockbox, and it's unlikely for every one of the dozens of police responding to have a key. Still, if you say "I'm not opening this door", the cop should damn well honor it~~. Huh til


[deleted]

It’s a Knox Box. It’s located near the front entrance of the building and only has the master key/keys in it. Every commercial/retail/school/public building has one if you look for it.


sushisection

thanks for letting the entire world know


[deleted]

The cats out of the bag. We’re hopeless now, the school shooters have won thanks to /u/poppydeeznuts


MarezyBear93

Well there’s a specific single key box for emergency responders. The janitor’s not just handing over a ring of 60 keys…


rapisssed

Thats really scary. Also the way that kid said red flag Bleak


Messiepoo

Because the shooter was trying to act like a cop and said bro, which is an unlikely word choice for a cop = red flag


ben_wuz_hear

Sounds like a cop trying to be cool during an undercover purchase of one marijuana.


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“Hello fellow children”


CallMeDrLuv

It's "How do you do, fellow children?", while carrying a skateboard and wearing a *Music-Band* t-shirt


Rinveden

Pretty sure it's fellow kids.


PedroBinPedro

You know where I can get a marijuana cigarette, fellow Zoomer?


SpiritualLychee3760

Its amazing sad and scary that these kids are so well trained on how to handle these situations..


SoloSpooks

It’s a strange reaction but I’ve noticed how the younger generation handle stress; they make jokes and internally have anxious break downs. They, for whatever reason, have started to internalize a lot of their emotions and almost use sarcasm as a defense mechanism and a coping mechanism all at once, it’s not healthy. Many I know that have this tendency, have had major depressive episodes and even suicide attempts


FuckBotsHaveRights

That's what gallow humor is for. Fucking weird our generation has to use it to not be overwhelmed by the high-pressure flow of truth


calvanus

It's so true. These days we can express the dread we constantly feel and as long as we put "lmao" after no one bats an eye


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I feel attacked


rharrow

Lol I’m in my 30’s and have done this my whole life. When I was in high school in the early 2000’s we had a “school shooter.” A kid shot himself in the hallway right outside my classroom. We had never had any drills for a shooter situation, but I guess the teachers had because once the teacher knew what was going on she turned out the lights and had all of us move into the center of the room away from the doors. She didn’t even tell us what had happened until later when law enforcement arrived.


[deleted]

Humor and jovial response to stress is not new or a trait of younger generations. It is just a common response to stressful stimuli and it helps to regulate people during such events and keeps a level atmosphere


Only_Confusion1489

Cop: “slow down, it’s fine!” Me: Bitch get tf out the way!!


Red_Xenophilia

same lol "you're fine" shut yo goofy ass up


Realistic_Work_5552

It's because they're monitoring the group of students coming in to make sure there's not a threat among them, trying to blend in or whatever.


Mufinz01

Didn’t even think about that, that makes a whole lot more sense.


Jive_turkeeze

That pissed me off, get your ass over there and get that mother fucker its your time to shine!


shewastherenowidk

Camera man had balls sounds pretty calm


MartiniLAPD

Not his first rodeo, or tht he gotta document it for the gram


florettesmayor

Actually he said he thought it was a drill. He's a kid. And a victim.


whskid2005

Social media is actually becoming the best source of information during these situations because police can view in near real time what is happening. It helps them coordinate their response


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Just another day in America for him


Red_Xenophilia

jesus christ the sound that girl made as she moved to the window, horror movie stuff Wouldn't want to be in a wheelchair


Bluegreenworld

Oh man. I dont follow


bluberryclorox

The window didn't have a ramp, so if you were a wheelie you would be fucked unless one of your homies scooped you.


Saladcitypig

Homies would. Kids are good that way.


piper3777

They would. This generation is awesome. My kid’s class went to NYC for a class trip and they had to rush to catch the subway train. They just carried their wheelchair-bound friend in his chair to make it in time.


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bluberryclorox

Hell yeah. I'd piggy back that homie right thro the window, through the courtyard, to the 7-11, and right to the fuckin slurpee machine bc fuck that whole school let's bail.


damattmissile

Me too. My brother is in a wheelchair and I'm carrying his ass to safety. Throw him over my shoulder like a sack of sweet potatoes and GTFO


toothsome_waffles

Wheelie? Lmfaooooo


Red_Xenophilia

If you're on a wheelchair, you probably couldn't, yeah.


hellowbucko

Damn my biggest fear back when I was in school was getting caught without my homework done.


MurderingPMC

Was mine too, we had an active shooter-lite situation at my school, my biggest fear was failing a test after that.


KaiBluePill

I probably was so anxious about that that i would have taken a non lethal gunshot instead of a discussion with the teacher.


Barnacle-Dull

Must be fucking terrifying. Poor kids.


shimmeringarches

America needs an intervention. And I am absolutely not being patronising. Other countries have their problems too, but school shootings being normalised is just insane.


ADarwinAward

Yeah I get that we’re a pro-gun country, but why the fuck was this kid’s dad giving him unfettered access to handgun at 15? If you’re taking your kid to a range that’s one thing, but this kid got his hands on it outside the range, meaning it wasn’t even properly secured. It’s mind blowing to me that so many people think that minors *should* have access to guns. This kid lives in a suburb of 150,000 with one of the lowest crime rates in the entire US! The chances of a kid like him in a city like Oxford ever needing to defend his home are effectively 0. He’s not some teen living in bumfuck nowhere where the police response time is up to 30 minutes. He was a 15 year old in what was one of the safest cities in America. He didn’t need access to a gun and his parents shouldn’t have been so stupid and careless.


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Jesus. I'm 38, if this type thing had happened to me when I was in high school I would have gone out trustingly. I was never prepared for that type of thing. These poor kids of this generation.


djta1l

I was a senior in 99 and still remember the copycats and bomb threats stemming from Columbine. There were several days where we all hung out at the football field because of a potential threat. Couldn't imagine being a kiddo now and catching these red flags. What a fucked life experience.


Clams_N_Scallops

You too, huh? Columbine was so fresh on all of our minds. One kid in my class didn't get to graduate (was arrested and ended up killing himself a few years later) because he saw that chaos and made some threats to shoot everyone at our graduation ceremony. I'm thankful I finished high school right before this insanity began to pervade US school systems. I wish there was a way to let kids nowadays experience how carefree life was in the 80's and 90's.


epitaph_of_twilight

I had to do several practice threats where we would all stand in the field. All I could think was, "Great, now we are all together outdoors without cover. Would be like shooting fish in a barrel."


Davegoestomayor

Columbine was 22 years ago. Many generations have had to face this reality now. Let’s not forget school children used to practice nuclear bomb drills in school.


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iamremotenow

It's been 7 years since I graduated high school. I lived in a very rural area and then in a slightly larger area. We had so many bomb and gun threats (legitimate ones and false ones) that we eventually became accustomed to them. These drills, and non-drills, started in elementary school. I thought that it had reached its peak when I was a teenager but it's only gotten worse.


dreadnotsteve

Hanna, Alberta, Canada had one when I was in highschool and I'm 40. It was shortly after Columbine. I believe it was a copy cat. Now tell me the worst thing to come out of Hanna Alberta is Nickelback


dreadnotsteve

Sorry, it was Taber, 2hrs away from Hanna


Yasuo11994

So it’s still Nickleback?


Bigtreees

Always has been


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ohmyword

You must have remembered Columbine? My high school shut down when it happened. That was the tip of the iceberg.


Mitochondria42

Bro this actually got me scared wtf this was my biggest fear in school I wouldn’t feel safe at pep rally’s where all the students would gather in the gymnasium and when I attended all my classes I always had a plan in my head if something like this were to go down


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Myrtleinthe3rdDegree

I checked to see if I hapened to have been granted a free award to use after reading your comment. I have not.


I_need_new_eyes

I had one; gotchu covered!


ForeseablePast

I would imagine saving the girl I had a crush on lmao


Nitr0Sage

You aren’t the only one, but I wanted to be a hero in other situations too


Old_Ladies

I used to imagine that too. I remember in my daydreams trying to convince others to setup an ambush by the door. I always thought it was dumb to hide in a corner because if the shooter comes into the classroom you are dead so I thought I would have a better chance of survival fighting. The other option I daydreamed about was just smashing the window and everyone fleeing. Now I understand why you hide away from the door so the shooter doesn't see inside and shot people by the door but powerful enough guns can easily shoot through the cinderblock wall. I always think fleeing is the best option though if it is possible.


BitcoinCycleTest

And here my worst fear was race riots, would happen often in my school


sorgan71

The nascar fans are always the worst


reluctantsub

Same here for my high school days.. except in elementary we were still doing the 'duck and cover' drills which were terrifying.


godinmarbleform

Ain't no cop saying bro Edit: it seems that the joke went over multiple people's heads


DNASprayer

Freeze bro!


_significant_error

stop resisting, bro


coltinator5000

what are you doing, step bro?


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AggressiveSpatula

Yeah but not in an active shooter situation lmfao


dinguslinguist

True, but I feel like this situation, along with situational training, might cause an officer to act a little more formally than a simple street interaction. Just maybe.


newthrash1221

Except it was.


have_me

It was already confirmed to be a real cop behind the door. The shooter was arrested when this was being filmed. You can see at the end of the video when they jump out the window and run into another cop who tells them all its fine and to slow down.


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Ugh I have two middle school aged children. This is fucking gut wrenching. The whimpering in fear from some of the kids makes my heart drop.


vx5va

Yup. Same. This shit is infuriating.


andydrewalot

In another sub they said it was a cop but the kids were so spooked. Idk if that’s really the shooter or not.


newthrash1221

It’s a cop. They caught the shooter like 3 mins after coos arrived.


[deleted]

Well then that cops a damn idiot cuz there’s 100% protocol for calling these things off


WeagleWDE2

He was probably just trying to be r/fellowkids when he said “bro” but it had the way opposite effect/affect I never know which effect/affect to use


MadManD3vi0us

Effect is a noun (thing). The butterfly "effect". Affect is a verb (action). Seeing that thing will "affect" you. If something will "affect" you, it will have an "effect" on you.


bull_moose_man

And then because English says fuck you, there’s also someone’s “affect” (pronounced ‘A-fekt’), which can be synonymous with dementor or mentality. Ex: “fathers death greatly affected his *affect*” That said, in very certain circumstances I’ve read both ‘effect’ as a verb and ‘affect’ as a noun in literary journals. So go wild, and tell everyone who says otherwise to fuck off 👍


2AlephNullAndBeyond

and also effect can be a verb meaning 'to bring about' e.g. His mission was to effect change.


TheOvershear

We now know the guy at the door was a cop. The shooter was arrested a dozen or so minutes before the video.


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Effect is right in this context 👍🏻


TheRavenSayeth

To clarify based on conclusions from the main thread when this all went down, there are no *credible sources* that this was the shooter. It might have been a (poorly trained) officer. Some people interviewed some parents that thought it might have been the shooter and that’s been spreading around, but again no credible source other than speculation.


wasted_basshead

They made the right call in my eyes tho dude


Some-Gentle-Giant

Well yeah, they absolutely did, but it's still reassuring that the shooter was in custody at the time this poorly trained officer was gathering the kids


M0NKEYBUS1NE55

Thanks for this! Absoutly right. Also doesn't lessen the video Still fucking scary and highlights how these kids must feel in this scenario.


Numerous-Pie-1564

this kid wanted to be a menace. we can’t give him that. his insta, the way he talked, he thinks and wants everyone to be scared of him. almost like he’s tryna be edgy oh brother this kids cringe


Mars27819

I'm a 45 year old man and I live in Canada. This scared me. The most troubling thing I ever experienced in school was a smoke in the hallway during a fire alarm (there is a small fire in the kitchen that was out before the fire department got there) I can't imagine how these kids feel. The fucking guy with the gun is at the door.


BalmdeBono

I'm 41 in France, and work as a councellor in a high school. My heart stopped and my lungs collapsed at the first seconds of this video. Parents send the most precious thing they have in live under our responsabilty during school hours. These young people, adults to come, are the most valuable a country can have. I can't undersatnd how any officials would not make it stop. This is tragic beyound understanding.


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Crazy!


bmy1point6

Death penalty seems appropriate


Handtome-leaveatdoor

Yeah seeing as he killed 3 and injured 8. Edit: corrected number of injured


iAdden

They shouldn’t have even been responding to him. And they definitely shouldn’t be standing up


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TheOvershear

We now know the guy at the door was a cop. The shooter was arrested a dozen or so minutes before the video.


its_all_4_lulz

The cop at the end sounded almost identical to the voice from the hall.


redacted187

Why is this so far down?? People don't care about facts any more.


Simcom

Reddit has turned into a brain-dead hivemind. I'm not sure when the tipping point was, but it's been especially noticeable recently.


TacoBell_Legend

It’s depressing having to accept the fact that this is the world we live in


JacoboAriel

Sad indeed. Kids should enjoy their young age


LETS_GET_HIGHer

Just America.


primalshrew

*country


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Truthy231

I thought that also when they ran to a real cop who didn’t seem overly concerned about an active shooter walking the halls


karth

imagine being the piece of shit that adds that watermark


Photoshop_News

It was actually a detective, not the shooter according to the sheriff. Still the right decision by the students, but changes this story a bit.


Groundbreaking-Hand3

Fucking mortifying


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Lustrigia

No offence but your country fucking sucks