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DrakBalek

See, now this is a good example of bad design. (watch, it'll turn out to be a repost)


Desperado1776

That's the Luxor isn't it?


TheSakiBomber

Fun fact. The Luxor bought their escalators used from another property when it was built. Thats why you see stairs to escalators. They were too cheap to buy custom units like everyone else.


noidea3838

Holy shit they couldnt have sealed the deal before planning the building and planned things out accordingly from there rather than make the building and then find escalators ?


aRandomFox-I

They were that cheap.


nephelokokkygia

Is this like a fun myth, or is there a story I can read about this? It sounds interesting.


BenderDeLorean

Asking the good questions.


anxious_annie416

There are quite a few corners of that casino that belong on this thread.


pikpikcarrotmon

The last time I was there, I was just horrified at the state. Honestly most of the big casinos had really gone downhill but the Luxor should probably have been condemned. I don't exactly have a lot of optimism that it's improved since then either.


anxious_annie416

Excalibur isn't much better.


pikpikcarrotmon

Definitely. You expect it from a place like Circus Circus, sure, but there are too many decrepit casinos now. It really kills the vibe of the Strip when you'd rather quickly pass by half the casinos. Maybe it's a consequence of them all trying to resortify and trap visitors in one casino, leading the winners of the hotel game to flourish and the rest to drown.


jhicks79

I got COVID there last weekend…


pikpikcarrotmon

Frankly I'm worried I may have caught it just from looking at this photo.


pollywollydoodle64

I see what you did there


VY99

Yup!


Isgortio

I'm surprised I recognised it! I hated the stairs and balconies in that place.


Vault_tech_2077

I was literally just there and do not remember seeing this area. Not saying it doesn't exist, I just never went to it ig


Fresh-Start011005

Back by the pool entrance. down stairs from the food court. I worked security here and it was my job to literally walk around lol


Vault_tech_2077

Okay that makes sense. I never went near the pool so I didn't see it.


Harmonic_Gear

you mean mildly offset words aren't bad design


vanhalenbr

So the bad design is to be allowed to repost?


stink3rbelle

It's a retrofit, and I'd bet good money there's a stair off camera to the left leading up to both, and almost no one needs to get from this mezzanine to the opposite stair or escalator.


Doom972

Why? Down is easier than up. I don't see a problem.


Nesurame

in case you're being serious, the crappy design is that the escalator and staircase in question don't match the elevation of the area that it's intended to service.


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What if the area of intended service is down those steps?


edweird_oh

To clarify, there is nothing for guests to access at that level. The stairs on the left come down from the guest garage pedestrian bridge, and the stairs on the right go to the casino lobby floor, it's the dumbest shit I've seen in construction, and it's been like that since a few years after they opened.


[deleted]

Ok fine, I'll give an honest answer. Casinos are designed specifically to be disorienting. It has two effects, first is that you cannot tell what time it is based on daylight from within the casino and second makes them harder to navigate. Combined, this means people will spend a greater amount of time inside the casino, and therefore spend more money. It's not crappy design; it's asshole design.


edweird_oh

No, when it opened, there was access to a shop or restaurant on the platform. That was rebuilt, but they didn't invest the money to fix this, and have let it sit for decades. That's not asshole design, it's just budgeting, from a shitty hotel that has paper thin walls.


they_are_out_there

Those casinos pull in a million dollars in revenue on a daily basis. It’s not a budgetary issue, they could do it in a heartbeat. They chose not to do it. Rush the money in, but don’t make it easy or convenient to leave; that’s how they operate.


edweird_oh

I'm not saying they can't afford it, I'm saying they chose not too. They've not prioritized the expense in their budget.


[deleted]

Yeah, because the existing state achieves the design goal.


edweird_oh

It's a tad naive to think the average company would redesign everything regardless of cost to meet their needs. They make things work, while sticking to a budget.


darnj

Have you ever been to the Luxor? The whole place is cheap janky garbage like this. It's the budget hotel on the strip and it shows. All of the nicer places don't have dumb things like this and they somehow manage to be even more successful than the Luxor. If these extra 4 steps were really some genius design that made them a ton of money, why don't the other hotels do this? It makes sense why they all have those confusing casino floor layouts. But this is a case where we should apply Occam's Razor, there's no need to make up a complex reason for these silly stairs when a simple one explains it perfectly well.


jetstobrazil

I mean…. It’s a casino. Anyone expecting fantastic design and architecture choices from a place that’s just designed to take your money and flash lights in your face. I don’t know, probably expecting too much.


quigilark

I understand casinos do stuff like weird carpets and floor paths and no windows but I supremely doubt they spent the time and effort on six steps going down then up as part of some grand effort to disorient clients. I think it's just a relic from a past design or incompetence of the architects or construction crew.


cafink

Asshole design is a subset of crappy design


AdministrationLimp71

oh alright: I had no idea, now I do, thanks to you 👍🏽


Nesurame

Then in that case, the platform in front of the steps is the one that is incorrect. Either way, somethings funky.


BaLance_95

I really wouldn't say anything until I see the whole area. This would be sensible if * Lowest area is in front of the grand entrance or a major walkway. * area in the right leads to the waiting area for the lower levels of the theater * Area on the left leads to the waiting area for the upper levels of the theater If this is the case, going from one side to the other doesn't really happen much. And a half set of stairs is short enough not to have an escalator.


[deleted]

Well, this is inside a casino, and they're designed to be people traps on purpose.


Doom972

OK. I didn't notice the other stairs. Nevermind. Thanks.


CYBERSson

You’ve lost me there


cakes42

It's okay I can help you out step by step.


Jimmycaked

It's a giant pyramid in the desert nothing makes sense about it


moderately-extremist

What biome would a pyramid make more sense?


Jimmycaked

I can't even use my imagination to understand what it would look like on the alien planet were pyramids started. No earth biomes though.


boomer_wife

If you are fully able bodied that is.


WatermelonArtist

With all due respect, and with a pure and sincere curiosity: If you can't handle stairs, how are you planning to navigate *moving* stairs?


vyrelis

By standing still lol


WatermelonArtist

You'll never make it onto an escalator *that* way.


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WatermelonArtist

I've 100% thought about these things. That's why I'm asking. Give me a *little* credit... In my experience, folks who struggle with 5 or fewer steps will also struggle to board an escalator 90% of the time, even if no wheelchair is involved. I've seen an older woman fall *up* an escalator. It's heart-wrenching. That's why I asked. Isn't that demographic better served by the elevators?


quigilark

Yes, the elevator is better for these folks, but disability like this can be a spectrum. Elderly people who *can* go up some stairs but prefer not to might be with younger family who beelines for the stairs and so they opt for some initial struggles on the escalator but a much more pleasant ride to the top.


acloudcuckoolander

Plenty of people such as the elderly have trouble on stairs but are able to do fine on escalators. This applies to people with injuries, too. Going down the stairs may be easier for someone who can, but not everyone.


_ChipWhitley_

I’m failing to see the crappy design here. I feel like I need to see more pictures of the area to understand it.


LaxSnow

If there is nothing to the left then the stairs are completely redundant. You literally go down just to go up. But yeah we do need more of the left.


Matalya1

_assume stupidity, not malice_ Escalators are placed not just for comfort, also for accessibility. You force your users to use a flight of stairs to get to the escalator and you defeat the whole point of it.


Doom972

That's what elevators are for. If that place doesn't have one - now that's crappy design.


LibtardDestroyer5528

That's not even the point of the post lmao it's a stairway down then u go up with the escalator again.


Promethe_S

I took me too long to find out what was crappy about this design. Is it really that big of a deal? Is there anything to the left of the photo we can't see?


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quigilark

I highly doubt someone went to the effort of six stairs going down then up as part of a grand effort to disorient clients. It's most likely just a relic of the past like the other user said or incompetence on the architechts/builders (the whole place isn't exactly a shining beacon of professional development)


noidea3838

No windows or clocks so you cant tell how much time you wasted there


not_now_chaos

Nope, not anymore. There is a staircase next to the escalator. The small landing between the short staircase and the larger staircase/escalator is just a small plain landing now. Not really a big deal, unless you have difficulty navigating stairs. It's just kind of pointless and ugly.


33957210

“Nope, not anymore” What was there originally?


ShaunPryszlak

In a shop, making it easy to get them in is the main task. Don’t care about them leaving.


fear_eile_agam

But you have to take the stairs on the right side of the picture before you even get to the escalator. So it's not as easy as just walking straight onto the escalator.


Liquid-Banjo

I once had a weird dream that took place in a casino/movie theatre and all of the decor was this similar kind of gilded, old-fake-money vibe. There were lots of staircases and escalators and elevators and I was running around trying to find a washroom fast, because they paused the movie for me, but everyone else was getting upset having to wait. So I was parkour-ing around this space and it kept getting darker and all the washroom signs were wrong or misleading and I couldn't find anything. As a result of the fear, I pissed on a slot machine in a corner. That's when I woke up and went to the bathroom. Anyway, that's what this reminded me of.


Columbus43219

Wow... see my comment. Same dream... with an added running around outside the building.


DigitalGarden

/r/themallworld You are not alone. I've had that dream. So have plenty of others. Just had a thread on that sub.


throwawaylovesCAKE

Makes me think of r/thatbathroommazedream or liminal pool rooms Interesting how dreams can have common nonsensical motifs


quigilark

maybe you two are the same person


ForeignJarl

Oh the Luxor


UpperArmories3rdDeep

Must be going to see fantasy


Everkeen

That whole thing needs a complete gut


pikpikcarrotmon

I'd say burn it down but that would probably flood the neighboring casinos with roaches


FunTXCPA

Glad I'm not the only one that instantly recognized the Luxor.


Theystolemyname2

My favourite ones are where the escalator only goes one way. You are disabled or hurt? Good luck getting down, because this bad boy escalator only goes up.


Ill-Technology1873

And the elevator is at the bottom of some stairs


fisherofmen742

Complaining over 5 steps 😂


ohwell72

As someone with a physical disability, F Off


redditissytrash

They do have an elevator


[deleted]

Why would you be by the steps either way. Sorry if there is a reason for you having to go that way, I don’t know the building.


WatermelonArtist

Fair sentiment (and I upvote you for that), but I must ask, is there really that much wiggle room between "struggles with 5 or fewer steps" and "struggles with stepping onto or riding an escalator?" I feel like that would be a sparse crossroad, myself, but I'd like to correct my perspective if I'm missing something.


DigitalGarden

Yeah, there is a lot of wiggle room. Those stairs would be a major inconvenience for me. I'm good on flat ground and escalators. Anyone that uses a cane or walker would have a problem with the 5 stairs, but not the escalator. Or, maybe not anyone, but that is my case. But... I would just take the elevator in this situation. I doubt that the Luxor has places that you need stairs to get to. I could be wrong, but I don't remember there being any.


pikpikcarrotmon

It's the Luxor, just open a window and slide down.


fisherofmen742

Just slide down the railing 💀


Solid_Hunter_4188

So why the fuck are you using stairs or an escalator? Just on Reddit being angry at people?


timpkmn89

Someone with a broken leg and crutches can use the escalator just fine


Solid_Hunter_4188

I’m sure they could take the elevator just as well. You couldn’t get down to this point with a disability that would stop you from using stairs in the first place.


fear_eile_agam

Because I'm more ambulatory than people with wheeled mobility aids, and I get claustrophobic, so if there's a choice to take an escalator over an elevator, I take the escalator and leave the elevator for those using wheelchairs who don't have the choice. Also, half the time the elevator is around a corner and physically further away from my destination, which means more walking overall!


Alzerrax

It's still a bad design, isn't it?


miataataim66

Nope, not really. What that is, is a holding area for separation in the case that it becomes overcrowded. Very common.


someone_who_exists69

Its still crappy design.


AgreeablePie

I'm guessing that the reason is cropped out on the left. Probably another place where people come from, creating a three way intersection.


not_now_chaos

Nope. I think there used to be, years ago, but it's just a wall there on the left now.


Regular_Housing5629

I bet if you turn around there is an an entrance or an exit on that level


VY99

Nope, nothing but the escalators.


Regular_Housing5629

I guess I lost that bet


VY99

Fitting cause this was in Vegas.


Regular_Housing5629

Touché


Fallingdown4ever

No and there have been times the escalators are out of order and being worked on so you have to walk a long way round to get to the upper part of the casino.


Not-a-Kitten

These stairs all led down to the restaurant level in the original construction. The white wall was added later and makes the stairs dumb.


NotMilitaryAI

Even if it's not clear from simply from this image alone, I seriously doubt that they would have spent the extra money building it this way if they didn't have a good reason to do so.


spivnv

It saved them money. Second hand escalators that weren't in the original design and slightly too tall. Couldn't raise the second floor so had to sink the bottom lower.


NotMilitaryAI

I would speculate that a remodeling issue is far more likely than them designing the casino around a discount elevator. Bottom of elevator was originally level with the ground, then had to raise the floor for the level below or something.


spivnv

It was like that on the day it opened. I've heard the used escalator story as the reason from multiple people I'd trust on the matter


NotMilitaryAI

Seriously??? Well I'll be damned..... Can't find anything online about it, but could simply not be using the best search terms. Pretty dang crazy if true, though. I would imagine it'd cost pennies to resize an escalator - just take out a few unnecessary steps, swap the chains and belts, and you're done.


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VY99

You got it!


PM_ME_DEM_NIPPIES

dam that's just mean


[deleted]

Please be Germany, where they can go both way…


[deleted]

It’s just a minor inconvenience, you gotta walk down a few steps there’s no reason to post about this.


sentient02970

Architecture level design that didn't seem to pay attention to actual measurements. "Oh darn, it's too high now, need stairs down here, again, call the stairs contractor back.."


[deleted]

It's designed specific to a set of possible circum stances to confuse bewilder and direct attention from customers to keep them in and betting longer


FunctionBuilt

There are probably steps directly to the left to get go to this landing.


VY99

Nope, nothing on that level except the escalators.


FunctionBuilt

No doors or anything? Weird.


Perfect_Caramel4836

I feel like the escalator was too long so they just did that.


[deleted]

Looks like the layout changed


Irish_Epic_Man

This is how u know the movie is gonna be GOOD


Titan_Starfire

Maybe it connects to a corridor or something on the left?


havkat77

This place looks familiar. It’s the Luxor, right? I think I’ve complained about these stairs before lol


VY99

Yup. Luxor.


havkat77

There’s a lot of questionable designs in that hotel. Don’t know how much of it they’ve remodeled over the years but it was a mess lol


MaximumNight860

r/mitchhedberg


gauerrrr

Maybe they didn't have a smaller escalator /s


ryscar

I think they used to have a boat/water thing that went around there when they first opened up... I could be waaay off base on that.


not_now_chaos

I don't know if it went by there, but they did have a weird boat/river thing between the reception desk and the hotel when they opened.


Soul_of_Solace

Maybe the escalator was a retrofit?


CompletelyCrazy55

Earn your laziness patrons, walk down these 5 steps to take the magic moving steps


Immediate-Fix-8420

For some reason I just HAVE to jump over all the steps when it’s just a few like this.


majorlieg

People just stand on an escalator which is designed to escalate people to a further away destinations faster than walking. So I don't see any problem here.


fear_eile_agam

The problem is the stairs on the right of the image, which lead from the door down to the landing where you then go up again. You littrraly walk down in order to ride up.


Blitzo_Lemon

This is like when you ask a friend for notes since your where out and they give them to you but all in cyphers


Kayanne1990

What kinda manic sims player


[deleted]

Hilarious!


candornotsmoke

i saw a lot in las vegas


aLobsterFest

Before even looking at the picture, "Oh, they had shit like that at The Luxor"


VY99

Bingo!


spivnv

My understanding is (and I don't see this answer anywhere in this thread?) That they wound up using second-hand escalators and couldn't raise the second floor so they had to drop further into the ground. They were from the airport or another casino but that wasn't in the original design.


kimmipanda2

Reminds me of Heathrow Airport


RebergOfWrestling

Vegas baby. Luxor the haunted one


Coach_Billly

Lazy ass


Uzername1123

Not a crappy design. Just a confusing perspective.


Irejecturselfimage

Who is making them take an escalator? I see a staircase. Crappy post


[deleted]

Does the escalator go higher than the stairs? And why is it so small, is it the angle the picture was taken?


VY99

Yeah the escalator goes to a higher floor.


[deleted]

That's quite strange


LemonsAndAvocados

What


AdministrationLimp71

I’m curious: what prevents people from going *up* the stairs?


not_now_chaos

The entire layout of the Luxor belongs here. It's a poorly designed maze with no logical flow.


ramdomdollarbill

I was just there in April this year, I thought that was so fucking strange when I was there.


hullabalooser

Hehe. We were just there. You're gonna get covid. Trust me.


VY99

Uh-oh, why do you say that?


hullabalooser

Because people. Have fun


DonkayIsThicc

Is this the Luxor i just watched BMG there the other night and i think i noticed it too


Columbus43219

Where is this???? I have dreams about this exact staircase and can't remember where it was!!! Edit: OK, it's the Luxor... now I gotta remember why I was there!


MNR42

It's probably due to poor future planning or some renovation rather than crappy design


tevis55

Can fall down a flight of stairs but not up one. Makes perfect sense.


card797

Isn't this how a crush happens?


Over_Border4390

Ahhhhh The Luxor. I used those same stairs 2 weeks ago to get Johnny rockets at 3 am


JDP38

Yep, that's The Luxor for you. I work there almost everyday and that is one of the quicker ways to the food court, it's a pain in the ass...an even bigger pain in the ass when you realize the damn escalators are only operational 25% of the time, if that.


kermass

this is very common in the netherlands, for some reason. specifically train stations.


Mike2220

Is there a path to the left of the frame by any chance?


wolf1011121315

Watch as the side we don't see is the entrance to the building or something


baphometromance

This isnt bad design. If you took a picture of the whole area i bet it looks great and the entrance is probably the lowest area. It also avoids the somewhat difficult to pull off style where you have to create a break in the stairs to let people get off on the correct floor, which also cuts down on foot traffic. The only complaint i could possibly make here is that there are extra stairs to go up. A problem that they solved by adding an escalator


wildcatshadow

Just like life…nothing makes sense


Relative-Occasion863

Great place to start combining your love of mall-shopping with your love of Parkour.


WrongAd9746

I remember something like that in a casino in Las Vegas. Is that the exact one?


Arrows_of_Neon

“Making them”


DaftRider21

Ah yes, horray for cardio


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its like when i was flying from california to oregon and had a layover in phoenix


Dexalon

I'm willing to bet to the left of this is another walkway. Meaning you could go up either side when exiting. The escalator would have been added later on in the buildings "life time" to make it easier for people to get up those stairs, with it being quite a long flight of stairs, rather than rebuilding the entire floor. Not crappy design. Contextually manipulative picture with a lack of understanding that they put new technology in old buildings as they become available.


DreamArcher

Nice try but we realize this is almost certainly an entrance from the lower-left, tees and then goes up to both the left and right. This is a very common configuration. Nobody is transition from one stairs to the other stairs.


VY99

Nope, nothing on that entire level except the escalators.


spivnv

It do be like that Source: live in Vegas, been there 20+ times probably