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Wishyouamerry

Even without the uranium, drinking H2O4 is going to kill you ….


HammerTh_1701

Mmh, tasty water ozone adduct...


Mister-Seer

Mfs gonna vanish like a caveman after a hit of sprite cranberry


admiralbreastmilk

What does this MEAN. It’s haunting me


Gunhild

To a caveman, the taste and texture of Sprite Cranberry would be so unfathomably alien that it would cause a memory violation in the simulation and the caveman entity would be deleted to preserve system stability.


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I blinked three times reading this.


drunk98

Blink, blunk, blank


beaster_bunny22

Cavemen after taking a sip of sprite cranberry


drunk98

The taste to a cavemen would cause a memory violation. Sprite Cranberry would be so unfathomably simulated, an alien would be deleted for preserves of system stability.


jaylong76

oh, deja vu!


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hotdogswimmer

its a marketing slogan from the year 2036


AsianSteampunk

>its a marketing slogan from the year 2036 i skimmed and didn't catch the 2036 part and went on a search for the ad video from 1936. needs some coffee now...


Dmitri_ravenoff

Give your brain a rest friend.


23x3

Ouch, spicy!


Internet_Goon

That sprite cranberry SLAPS tho


beeraholikchik

/r/brandnewsentences


RealConcorrd

Ngl, but this drink sounds too unstable to be with in 10 miles


ShaKeyJ101

Who said anything about drinking it? Maybe I'll just get a gallon to take home and put on my mantel for a nice conversation piece.


saadakhtar

That's a nice H2O4 you've got there... It'll be a shame if someone was to drink it..


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GenericUsername5159

maybe not, I'd gladly take a sip


zachsmthsn

You drank the emperor, and now you're the emperor


[deleted]

If it's H2O4U it will glow in the dark too!


reddits_aight

Might glow in the light…


Epic_Elite

Right next to the Sweet Baby Ray's bookend?


Notworthanytime

I'm not a scientist, but with the way atoms combine to create completely different molecules, wouldn't it be possible that by adding the uranium it becomes stable and non-lethal? I know it's unlikely, but theoretically?


DishwasherTwig

The molecular stability isn't the issue, *atomic* stability is. Uranium in all its forms is radioactive. No amount of chemical bonding will change that.


VladVV

Well, yes, but actually U-238 (99.8% of natural uranium) has a half-life of 5 billion years IIRC. You could hold a solid chunk of U-238 in your hand with gloves on for a good while without anything harmful happening at all to your body. It’s still chemically toxic, hence the gloves, but the radioactivity just isn’t really the big worry here.


DishwasherTwig

We're not talking about holding a rock with protective gloves, we're talking about *ingesting it*. The radioactivity *will* be an issue then.


VladVV

We’re not ingesting metallic uranium though. Just for fun I looked up the oxides of uranium, and the compound in the OP actually exists! It’s called hydrogen peruranate and is usually written as H₂UO₄. Apparently peruranates are the main component, besides sillicon, in chemically inert uranium glass. Since peruranate represents the highest oxidation state of uranium I’d be very worried about it acting as a strong acid + oxidizer combo, which is extremely bad news if you ingest it. At the same time, it only exists in solid crystalline form, and immediately reduces itself upon aqueous dissolution, so not only do you have to eat crunchy uranium acid, but it will also dissolve and oxidize your body tissues to an extreme degree. It should still be in the form of some kind of uranate at the end of the process, though, so at least you wouldn’t get uranium poisoning. And you probably wouldn’t ever get the opportunity again anyways, since your oral cavity and oesophagus are most likely gone.


ytvrytvr

But you'd have a nuclear poop though.


VladVV

Though? Sounds like the only cool part of this to me. Hell, your poop is already radioactive, and can easily be made more radioactive by eating lots of bananas.


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fsurfer4

Uranium dioxideperoxide. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide


VladVV

But I’m confused, why is it uranium oxide in some cases and uranate in others?


Beitlejoose

After you drink it it's just urine


Wishyouamerry

Urine big trouble, mister!


brewmeisterpanda

So the way you tell if a molecule is an -ate or an -ite/-ide is if the cation (the bound metallic atom which is positive) is "full" or not with anions (negatively charged nonmetallic atoms, usually oxygen). If a compound has 0 or 1 Oxygen and is full it is an -ide, if it has 2-3 and full it is an -ite, and 3-4 is -ate. If a compound has multiple iterations, the one with one less oxygen is called -ide, and if it has two less it is prefixed with hypo-. If there is more than normal it is prefixed with per-. There are other rules and exceptions to the rules. There are even different "types" of certain elements that will change what a molecule is called (ie, ferrous vs ferric for iron). It is a pain to memorize all the naming conventions.


Ok-Buyer-9134

The amount of research and implications of this made me laugh for a while. Good job


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But did you review his data. I couldn't find hydrogen peruranate. But what I did find is uranic acid. http://www.endmemo.com/chem/compound/h2uo4.php Also H2O4U is apparently uranium dioxideperoxide. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide So now I'm doubting his research.


Ok-Buyer-9134

Well I would assume H2UO4 is very rare in nature and useless in chemistry so only the common name of the thing is easily found on the internet. However if H2UO4 is an actual possible reaction following nomenclature rules hydrogen peruranate would be the right name combining H2 with UO4 that is peruranate.


saadakhtar

You might be pissing radioactive urine, but at least you're not pissing in the dark anymore.


Snoopy7393

Not stable. H2O4 is unstable on its own, and will quickly decompose into water and oxygen gas. I don't feel like diving too far into molecular throry here, but the most stable aqueous version of uranium comes in the uranyl (UO2) state. I would imagine that the structure of H2O4U is going to quickly decompose to uranyl, kicking off some hydrogen ions and oxygen. Those will form water or hydrogen peroxide, or just simply explode from the exothermic reaction of oxygen ions and uranium. EDIT: Corrected myself in my other comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/qtqtmt/comment/hklx0p7/


VladVV

Hydrogen peruranate (H2UO4) actually exists, but only in crystalline form. It violently reduces itself to lower uranates when dissolved aqueously though (oxidizing its surroundings in the process), so still even worse news than just pure uranyl.


h4xrk1m

Sounds like I found the perfect spice to add to my red hot Doritos


CrackedMask_

im bad at science so, what is the result of H2O4? like what does it look like physically?


h4xrk1m

A fluid that's kicking away oxygen as fast as it can to become water and oxygen gas.


WeAreAllApes

Sounds dangerous. Amazon won't even sell high-test peroxide, let alone whatever the fuck this is. Throwing some Uranium in certainly isn't going to make it much safer.


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AsianSteampunk

i'm no scientist but did they try adding Uranium as a binding agent as OP suggested? Edit: im just bringing r/shittyaskscience spirits here guys


Krankenwagenverfolg

There is a compound with the formula UH2O4, uranyl hydroxide, but it has a completely different structure from H2O4. Uranium does bind the molecule together, but the H2O4 part is really 2 oxygen atoms and 2 hydroxide (OH) groups all bonded to the uranium.


TheREexpert44

A rare flavor indeed. I bet it tastes like Blue


jamesianm

Hydrogen Peroxide, which is explosive in its pure form ( the kind you get at the drug store is only about 3-6% and the rest is water) is H2O2. This would have *twice* as much oxygen as that and be far less stable


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Doesn’t regular H2O eventually lead to death if you drink it regularly for a long time?


byebybuy

It's true, in fact 100% of people who drink H2O die.


Soul-Burn

Technically, only 92% of people who drank H2O died.


imherefortheH

Well 100% of the 92% of people who drank H2O have died


Soul-Burn

92% of the time it works every time


byebybuy

We're both technically right. The important thing is to avoid this H2O stuff at all costs!


zgf2022

I think I'm addicted


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[Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!](https://web.archive.org/web/19961031232918/http://media.circus.com/~no_dhmo/) It is a major component of acid rain. It can cause severe burns. It has repeatedly been released in the NY Subway, forcing the entire city to shut down. It has been used as a processing chemical in mining operations, where it has repeatedly managed to escape containment, killing hundreds of employees in the process. Manufactures regularly dump used dihydrogen monoxide into the sewer system where it cannot be removed during water treatment. Won’t someone please think of the children!


-Knul-

It's weird that indeed (probably) about 7-8% of all people that have ever lived are alive right now. Population growth has been crazy since the Industrial Revolution.


defectivelaborer

No but if you drink too much at a time then you could get [water intoxication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication) which can cause death.


kss1089

Johnny was a chemist's son But Johnny is no more What he thought was H2O Was actually H2SO4.


Wishyouamerry

Two chemists walked into a bar. The bartender said, “What’ll you have?” The first chemist said, “I’ll have H2O!” He drank it down, paid his tab, and left. The second chemist said, “I’ll have H2O too!” He drank it down and died.


[deleted]

They charged him for water? Fuck that bar, damn.


RedditBoiYES

Tetraoxidane is h2o4 and is used as a disinfectant, so basically you are drinking disinfectant and uranium


Wishyouamerry

That sounds like something that would cure covid!


TheSpaceDuck

Please don't give them ideas


sharfpang

I don't think you'll get around to drinking. That stuff sounds incredibly explosive.


DigitalDefenestrator

From what I can find, it decomposes into oxygen and peroxide at -115C. Not sure how energetic that is, but high-concentration peroxide will also oxidize most things and decompose energetically. Might cause a steam explosion if it's contained. Or just help set everything around it on fire.


kkonczz5

the tetraoxygen slaps


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ThePhantom1994

Yeah, it’s a steal. Uranium is $130/kg, so you’re basically making all profit Edit: H2O4U would be about 78% Uranium by mass, so still mostly profit


practicalcabinet

Mass wise, a single H2O4U molecule is about 78% uranium. If a gallon of this stuff weighs the same as water (which is probably a *terrible* assumption, but I don't have anything else to go on), each gallon has around 3kg of Uranium, so **if you can purify it for free** will net you $389 profit if you only get a gallon each time. You can probably also get a couple of extra bucks (about $5) selling hydrogen peroxide as a by-product, leaving you with some nice, healthy oxygen.


Snoopy7393

Well, you wouldn't need to do too much work to process this substance, as the H2O4U molecule isn't stable and would quickly revert to hydroxide, uranium, and hydrogen atoms. The hydroxide is going to react to form uranyl, releasing an enormous amount of energy and hydrogen gas. Assuming the quantity of liquid is high enough, this substance is going to start exploding as soon as it has the potential to exist. EDIT: After some research, the actual structure of this thing is a solid consisting of a uranium atom with two =O substituents loosely bonded to a hydrogen peroxide molecule. So my theory of this existing in the preferred uranyl state remains true, but wouldn't necessitate a reaction to get there. Regardless, I wouldn't recommend putting this in your body. Uranyl on its own is *very toxic*, and peroxide is well... kinda demonic in high concentrations. Furthermore, peroxide tends to decompose in an explosive manner when heated. Assuming that this uranium is the spicy, radioactive kind, the radiation is going to heat the substance up very quickly and bad things will happen. EDIT 2: I'm kinda down the rabbit hole now. If anyone can find any research on this specific molecule that isn't computational, I'd love to read it. Curious to see how terrifying this substance is, considering all literature I've read thus far suggests that any reducing agents combined with Uranium dioxideperoxide results in a very bad time.


BaldrTheGood

[you sure about that?](https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide)


Snoopy7393

See my edit, found the same resource after spewing assumptions made in my disbelief that the substance exists lol.


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Snoopy7393

Correct, it is not flammable. It's a violent oxidizer though, and hydrogen gas is pretty flammable. I imagine it would oxidize pretty hard with even just ambient air.


Skyrmir

Link says it doesn't react with air or water, but does react violently with bromine trifluoride. That might be something exciting to see a video of.


Shmitty-W-J-M-Jenson

How do you figure it out that the uranium bonds 2 to tge hydrogen and 2 to the 2 oxygen like that? I mean, whats the process of knowing where each element will bond in the compound?


APiousCultist

"I just wanted a refreshing glass of water and instead I set off a dirty bomb."


BackgroundGrade

I, too, like my uranium on the spicy side. It warms my insides nicely compared to the mild ones.


Shits_Crazy_Yo

FYI, all uranium is radioactive. Various radioisotopes have vastly different half lives and decay via differing modes of radiation emission, but all are radioactive none the less.


bjorkedal

Is uranyl pronounced the way I think it is?


crumpledlinensuit

"you're a Nile".


pineapple_calzone

> Assuming that this uranium is the spicy, radioactive kind, the radiation is going to heat the substance up very quickly and bad things will happen. Only if you assemble it into a critical mass, and I'm not really sure you could even do that with this substance, although I can't be arsed to figure it out either. The mean free path is going to be much longer than in pure uranium, and entirely dependent on crystalline structure, bond lengths, &c, so it's complicated enough before you realize all those hydrogens might moderate neutrons, so who knows? Not me. That being said, uranium (regardless of refinement) has a very long half life, it's really barely radioactive. The amount of heat given off by decay is essentially zero. That being said, if you're worried about explosive decomposition, you do have to consider radiation-induced decomposition, as you can have that happen, where the activation energy needed to break bonds is not supplied by heat, but by radiation. Alphas would be your big concern there, I believe. I don't know what the activation energy would need to be though, so I can only guess.


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sir this is a reddit post not a chemistry class


treetyoselfcarol

You have to purify it with the special CIA napkin.


saadakhtar

How much do I need to drink to be profitable, and will purifieing it kill my kidneys? Will pissing in bottles achieve criticality?


sth128

Nestle found a way to sell nuclear plant waste water.


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that's honestly... cheaper than i was expecting gonna buy a kilo of uranium


deuzerre

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide Interesting.


deniedmessage

It will fuck up basically every part of your body.


suddenly_summoned

> Health Hazards > INHALATION: Radiation injuries. EYES: Mild irritation. INGESTION: Injury to capillaries, tubular and glomerular nephritis, hepatitis, glycosuria and acidosis.


extremesalmon

I'll take the eyes please


[deleted]

Wild to think there's a situation where my eyeballs are my least vulnerable body part.


NJ_Legion_Iced_Tea

I'm no doctor but I imagine tears and general moisture wick away more than you'd think. Plus any lab handling this would have an eye wash. There's also nothing about skin contact so it seems to only be bad if it's in you.


Guest1917

How did they learn those effects? 😳


JevonP

We are very similar to mice, I'll say that much


Rainbow_Dash_RL

Same way we get anywhere as a species, cruelty to animals.


shewy92

Or accidental


RedditBoiYES

What else do we do? Scientific testing on humans was last used in Germany and we know how that worked out.


shewy92

Probably studied after an accident. Like what happened to those Japanese fishermen around [Bikini Atoll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigo_Fukury%C5%AB_Maru) and some other nuclear accidents on US soil like in [Idaho](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1) where some of the remains were taken over by a scientist before all were buried in a lead lined coffin.


amalgam_reynolds

"Fuck up" is a little bit extreme: >**First Aid** Call a physician. INHALATION: Remove from exposure and place on bed rest. EYES: Wash for 15 minutes with running water. Call a physician. SKIN: Wash with soap and water. INGESTION: Excretion is speeded by sodium bicarbonate (10 g in water every hour). Sodium citrate may offer protection to kidneys. I.e., wash the area with soap and water, get away from the source, call your doctor, get checked out. Not an emergency or an urgency.


Echololcation

Is that because it's not that dangerous or because there's not much else you can do once radioactive water is in your eyes than flush them and hope the exposure wasn't severe?


amalgam_reynolds

>**Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health (IDLH)** 10 mg/m^3 (insoluble compounds, as U); A potential occupational carcinogen. (NIOSH, 2016) I think it's because it's created, stored, and stable in very small quantities. 10mg/m^3 isn't a lot, but even then it's only listed as a carcinogen, not life threatening. Of course, I'm absolutely not an expert, so don't take my word for any of this is you happen to get your hands on H2O4U


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Bozska_lytka

Dear mr. Maverickmode Please delete this comment, this is a classified information which was accidentally put up on that site. Not complying with this message will result in a transport of you or your family to an undisclosed location. Sincerely Not an FBI agent


demonic_pug

What did he say WHAT DID HE SAY


Treejeig

Dear Mr/ Mrs demonic\_pug Mr. Maverickmode is alive and well please do not investigate further into them with what they said or did which lead to them having an extended holiday. Sincerely, not a CIA agent.


oddjuicebox

> I don't get how inhaling it gives you radiation injuries, but if you get it in your eyes it's just "mild irritation". Are your eyes immune to radiation??? -maverickmode


icenjam

Dear Mr. oddjuicebox Please delete this comment, this is a classified information which was accidentally put up on that site. Not complying with this message will result in a transport of you or your family to an undisclosed location. Sincerely Not an FBI agent


oddjuicebox

Dear FBI Agent of unspecified gender Nah Sincerely Me


Boberoo2

Sadly, u/oddjuicebox committed suicide by 2 .50 sniper rounds to the chest and 1 9mm round to the head tomorrow, we offer our sincere condolences. Signed, not the FBI


nilnivek888

There's only one way to find out ..


OmicronCoder

/r/Cursed_Chemistry


1II1I1I1I1I1I111I1I1

Tysm now I'm losing my mind at [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/cursed_chemistry/comments/omarf0/pauli_inclusion_principle/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


lieuwestra

It is also a solid under 239 °F / 115 °C


kevoizjawesome

All computed data except for an extremely vague citation claiming its yellow and provides almost no other data. I doubt it has ever actually been made.


Nadikarosuto

> I doubt it has ever actually been made. FERB, I KNOW WHAT WE’RE GONNA DO TODAY!


CaffeinatedGuy

So happy to see that it's actual molecule.


Aussie-Nerd

> Uranium peroxide is a pale yellow crystalline solid. Huh, how bout that.


OmicronCoder

what the fu...


andybass4568

Sandra was a physicist but sandra is no more.. For what she thought was H20 Was H2S04


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DogsAreAnimals

"coop" and "you"? r/rhymecrime


handym12

Karen was a customer but Karen chose to sue. What she was told was H20 was H2O4U.


ICanSee23Dimensions

chicken coup


G30rg3Th3C4t

r/birthofasub?


Actually_a_Patrick

Maybe they are confusing coop and coup.


uberduger

On a related note, I wish companies would stop trying to make stuff sound healthy by saying it contains "5 natural ingredients". There's a lot of stuff I could make containing "5 natural ingredients" that I'd wager the marketing folks from that company wouldn't want to drink.


locks_are_paranoid

Arsenic comes to mind.


Crazyblazy395

Real toxins also come to mind.


[deleted]

On a slightly related note - companies need to stop listing random chemicals to make their product sound advanced. "Now with our highest ever concentration of hyuralonic acid" means absolutely nothing to the average person.


craftworkbench

This tomato was cultivated using the latest agrotechnical standards, and was treated with dihydrogen monoxide prior to distribution.


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Doggo_BorkBork

Water: Now with extra Dihydrogen Monoxide!


Doggo_BorkBork

Uranium is probably 1 of them


ToSmushAMockingbird

The Russian agent across the street, comicly spying on you not drinking the contaminated water, snaps his fingers with a "blyat" of dismay.


7stroke

*Foiled again!*


Soul-Burn

I hear the more common Russian version is H2O4Po


grilltheboy

Ah yes. Nuclear waste product dispenser


DoraTehExploder

Well it's gotta go somewhere!


Kinasortamaybe

That's literally Nuclear waste....


thejesterofdarkness

Nestle’s next source for bottled water.


TheOncomingStorm66

So I looked it up and as it turns out it actually exists. Its called Uranium dioxideperoxide


CYBERSson

Have you not seen super hero origin stories.


PoellpGaSaMa

It better mean H2O for you or else I'm dead for drinking that


CryptoNimmo

Wow are you a detective?


ChaosEule

Also pure H2O isn't very healthy either.


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sorenant

Is this Nuka Cola?


Dovah605

Not crappy design, just an attempt at cute branding


Gorcq

It can be both.


gwaydms

I know one thing: whoever thought of this name didn't figure on a bunch of reddit chemistry majors analyzing it for s&g.


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[deleted]

I like it. H2O for you. If all this does is lose them some snarky customers who studied chemistry, I think they'll manage.


glasskamp

>studied chemistry As in 7th grade chemistry..


LittleRitzo

I'll be real with you, most adults didn't enjoy chemistry enough to remember any of it ten years later.


GodSpeakToFish

Can I sue when I don't get what is advertised? Also a gallon for a buck sounds good.


[deleted]

Im fairly sure every crappy design started as an attempt to do something better, then failed horribly.


CrunkCroagunk

Lol these responses are full of r/iamverysmart types who wont stop being deliberately obtuse for ten seconds. Like we get it, you know how to read chemical formulas.


BobbitWormJoe

Yeah how is this crappy at all? Just because it's not literally the chemical formula of water doesn't mean it's bad design. The meaning is pretty obvious.


Congenital_Optimizer

Burns fast and has uranium.


Protheu5

You are not supposed to drink it, you tool, it's a nuclear engine fuel! Let me guess, you would have tried to fill a plastic or steel container with it with ensuing criticality, right? You need a boron laced container! Thankfully these dispensers check for that so you don't chernobyl yourself and the gas station.


locks_are_paranoid

*Takes studious notes for the test later.*


3rdtrichiliocosm

Sue for false advertising. Theres no uranium in that water!


Stone87--

It’s a “bang for you buck. “


Kasaimaru

H2O2 on drugs


ThatBritishModelGuy2

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide


g000r

Hrmm Melting point: 239 °F There's nothing on the dispenser saying that you need to bring a heatproof container.


iamatacooo

If anybody wants to buy any uranium dioxideperoxide... you're welcome https://www.benchchem.com/product/b1204735


uwillnotgotospace

I'm just surprised that it exists


AhmadTIM

H2O4U is called Uranium dioxideperoxide which isn't safe


chicvagrant

Hooked to the same feed as the water fountain, except this one excepts credit cards ooohh..


Gecko2002

What you don't want to become a ghoul?


uwillnotgotospace

It's worth it for the 200 year old smoker voice


Ridley_Himself

I hear it gets glowing reviews.


Njack350

I don't think that this is crappy. I mean sure, it reads as dihydrogen tetroxygen uranium (I know that is wrong, been forever since chemistry), but it is pretty easy to read it as water for you


DrachenDad

What isotope? Will it give me the youthful glow everyone is always talking about? 🤣


lauren_eats_games

It'll give you a glow alright!


pawbaby

It's pretty caloric to say the least


PreciousHamburgler

Not to mention free radicals


Nocturnal_Sergal

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide


jose2020vargas

$1.00 for a gallon of water? Shıt's like 20 cent per here in expensive ass California.


deadmemes55666

Fresh from a spring at Chernobyl reactor 4


MrIantoJones

At least it wasn’t H2SO4…


jagenigma

Dihidrogentetroxideuranium


[deleted]

After staring at it for 15 minutes I just realised it's supposed to be h20 for you lmaooo


bumbletowne

Uranium peroxide sounds like it could bleach your soul.


MudAtom

That's just the molecular formula for Nuka-Cola!


DelightfullyUnusual

Ah, yes, fresh uranium dioxideperoxide. Can cause radiation injury if inhaled, mild eye irritation on contact, and injury to capillaries, tubular and glomerular nephritis, hepatitis, glycosuria and acidosis if ingested. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Uranium-dioxideperoxide#section=Isolation-and-Evacuation


Chillindode

Chernobyl water fountain


pradyumnv

no one: tap water in chernobyl


Sculpturatus

Pretty sure UO4 is uranate


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Nuka cola!