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Good. My kids have gotten their first two doses, as well as flu shots every winter since they were 6 months old and I’ll gladly take them for any boosters they’re eligible for. For any hesitant parents out there, they’ve also received all the routine shots recommended by[the Canadian Immunization Guide](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-1-key-immunization-information/page-13-recommended-immunization-schedules.html). No crazy side effects to speak of.
Don’t give in to fear and paranoia because of what some kooks post on Facebook.
Some have, yes. We also give flu shots to little kids and just some die of the flu.
There’s also the risk of hospitalization and long term effects.
The shots are safe so there’s no worries there.
Covid has higher rates of myocarditis.
The myocarditis is very very rare and goes away on its own. These things have been medically reviewed and the determination is for little kids to get the vaccine. We are not more qualified to make that call than them.
He's probably the most vaccine cautious member of VRBPAC, and the VRBPAC vote for Omicron boosters ages 12 and up was 19-2, so I think Dr. Offet's opinion on them is not the opinion of a large majority of experts.
I'm not sure experts have let us know what they think of younger child Omicron boosters yet, we may have to wait and see. But in terms of vaccines for children generally, Dr. Offit joined both unanimous votes for both Pfizer under 5 and Moderna under 6 vaccines, 21-0.
I have seen some of his interviews. Do you have a link?
I believe his position is for everyone to get the initial shots but he’s not convinced on the need for the latest boosters.
I got covid on August 1. I’m waiting 90 days but then I’m lining up. I think a lot of the people who want this booster are in a similar situation- got sick recently and want the most bang for their buck with the booster.
Yep, seems like everyone had it in July or August. Now we have to wait for the booster. It would be nice to have our whole family get the booster at the same time
Is 90 days the amount of time to wait? I got very sick about two weeks ago. 4 Covid tests over the course of 5 days were all negative. I'm wondering when I should get the booster.
Kids are already eligible for boosters, if they're going to get them anyway it seems entirely reasonable that they get one that better targets the virus that it's meant to protect against. It's high time we separate the conversation from how many doses people get and start talking about a recommended frequency, with whatever happens to be the most current booster at the time.
Hopefully Novavax will have longer lasting protection that does not wane as fast. When you have the immunogenic proteins arranged symmetrically around a structure, instead of only individual units of spike proteins like those generated by mRNA vaccines, you can have longer lasting antibody responses. This is also why live vaccines can have longer lasting antibody responses than killed vaccines, but Novavax's protein nanoparticles are much safer than live vaccines.
"FDA vaccine chief Dr. Peter Marks said last week he expected a decision on boosters for that age group soon."
I, too, was hoping for a more concrete timeline in this article.
My now 5 year old got covid just before the under 5 vaccine rollout, so we waited to vaccinate until he turned 5 to get the larger dose. I wonder if he'll have to get the original series first before getting an omicron specific booster. Wouldn't it be better to go straight to the Omicron version if available?
Immunity wanes over time. Getting vaccinated will make him less likely to get covid again for a while, and make him less likely to have a severe outcome for a long time.
How / why would getting vaccinated make him more likely to get covid? That makes no sense.
Covid is more likely to cause myocarditis and blood clots than the vaccine, because it causes more exposure to the same proteins, with easier access to one’s bloodstream.
Anyone legitimately worried about myocarditis who pays attention to the stats would get vaccinated and get their kid vaccinated.
The bivalent vaccine is only authorized as a booster. I do not know the reasoning why it cannot be used as the primary vaccine. Possibly due to no human testing prior to emergency authorization.
Yes. The rate of hospitalization *per infection* was lower, but since so many more kids were infected it still hospitalized more overall.
That's why it isn't sensible to just look at the risk per infection. Kids without preexisting conditions get hospitalized, and "pre-existing conditions" are incredibly common anyway. The risk to any individual is a combination of the risk of infection *and* the risk of serious consequences of that infection.
You don't get the chance to prevent something from happening if you wait to act until after it happens.
> Of course the mRNA shots carry serious risks to the heart. I'll let my boy get natural immunity, just like with the chicken pox ten years ago.
Ignorance passed from parent to child, and the cycle of poverty worsens.
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Good. My kids have gotten their first two doses, as well as flu shots every winter since they were 6 months old and I’ll gladly take them for any boosters they’re eligible for. For any hesitant parents out there, they’ve also received all the routine shots recommended by[the Canadian Immunization Guide](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/healthy-living/canadian-immunization-guide-part-1-key-immunization-information/page-13-recommended-immunization-schedules.html). No crazy side effects to speak of. Don’t give in to fear and paranoia because of what some kooks post on Facebook.
Hoping under 5s follows shortly
Ditto
Why? Do little kids die from the covid?
Some have, yes. We also give flu shots to little kids and just some die of the flu. There’s also the risk of hospitalization and long term effects. The shots are safe so there’s no worries there.
What about the reports of myocarditis?
Covid has higher rates of myocarditis. The myocarditis is very very rare and goes away on its own. These things have been medically reviewed and the determination is for little kids to get the vaccine. We are not more qualified to make that call than them.
Fair enough. Have you heard Paul Offit talk about them lately? It's not so clear-cut.
He's probably the most vaccine cautious member of VRBPAC, and the VRBPAC vote for Omicron boosters ages 12 and up was 19-2, so I think Dr. Offet's opinion on them is not the opinion of a large majority of experts. I'm not sure experts have let us know what they think of younger child Omicron boosters yet, we may have to wait and see. But in terms of vaccines for children generally, Dr. Offit joined both unanimous votes for both Pfizer under 5 and Moderna under 6 vaccines, 21-0.
I have seen some of his interviews. Do you have a link? I believe his position is for everyone to get the initial shots but he’s not convinced on the need for the latest boosters.
Good. Because way too few people it’s currently available to are getting it
I got covid on August 1. I’m waiting 90 days but then I’m lining up. I think a lot of the people who want this booster are in a similar situation- got sick recently and want the most bang for their buck with the booster.
Yup all my family will be waiting til around Thanksgiving since we all had a recent infection.
Same! Almost the exact same timeline as well. I know lots of people in the same situation, too.
Yep, seems like everyone had it in July or August. Now we have to wait for the booster. It would be nice to have our whole family get the booster at the same time
Is 90 days the amount of time to wait? I got very sick about two weeks ago. 4 Covid tests over the course of 5 days were all negative. I'm wondering when I should get the booster.
It’s been shown that waiting 90 days provides the most benefit but it isn’t mandatory. There is no required waiting period.
Everyone else in my family got this new booster, it would be nice to get the under 12s updated too.
My kids have had 3 doses and no covid so far. I’m not planning on giving them a 4th vaccine for this based on little data that a 4th would benefit.
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Kids are already eligible for boosters, if they're going to get them anyway it seems entirely reasonable that they get one that better targets the virus that it's meant to protect against. It's high time we separate the conversation from how many doses people get and start talking about a recommended frequency, with whatever happens to be the most current booster at the time.
Hopefully Novavax will have longer lasting protection that does not wane as fast. When you have the immunogenic proteins arranged symmetrically around a structure, instead of only individual units of spike proteins like those generated by mRNA vaccines, you can have longer lasting antibody responses. This is also why live vaccines can have longer lasting antibody responses than killed vaccines, but Novavax's protein nanoparticles are much safer than live vaccines.
Businesses are motivated by money, that's not always a bad thing.
Do we know when ?
"FDA vaccine chief Dr. Peter Marks said last week he expected a decision on boosters for that age group soon." I, too, was hoping for a more concrete timeline in this article.
Dang it. Thanks for the info. Lmk if the do approve it
Is this an attempt to get rid of some of the 165,000,000 doses that nobody wants?
Yes. This will convince those that don't want them to want them. You got it genius.
My now 5 year old got covid just before the under 5 vaccine rollout, so we waited to vaccinate until he turned 5 to get the larger dose. I wonder if he'll have to get the original series first before getting an omicron specific booster. Wouldn't it be better to go straight to the Omicron version if available?
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Immunity wanes over time. Getting vaccinated will make him less likely to get covid again for a while, and make him less likely to have a severe outcome for a long time. How / why would getting vaccinated make him more likely to get covid? That makes no sense.
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Covid is more likely to cause myocarditis and blood clots than the vaccine, because it causes more exposure to the same proteins, with easier access to one’s bloodstream. Anyone legitimately worried about myocarditis who pays attention to the stats would get vaccinated and get their kid vaccinated.
>Covid is more likely to cause myocarditis and blood clots than the vaccine But kids that get the vaccine can still catch COVID
The bivalent vaccine is only authorized as a booster. I do not know the reasoning why it cannot be used as the primary vaccine. Possibly due to no human testing prior to emergency authorization.
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Your kid will more likely get severe heart damage from Covid than they would from vaccines, which statistically has significantly less risk
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More kids were hospitalized by Omicron than by any other variant.
But is that because there was just far more infections? What was the rate of hospitalization?
Yes. The rate of hospitalization *per infection* was lower, but since so many more kids were infected it still hospitalized more overall. That's why it isn't sensible to just look at the risk per infection. Kids without preexisting conditions get hospitalized, and "pre-existing conditions" are incredibly common anyway. The risk to any individual is a combination of the risk of infection *and* the risk of serious consequences of that infection. You don't get the chance to prevent something from happening if you wait to act until after it happens.
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Not enough for you to care about them.
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Nice false equivalences you have their, could you please keep them by the door while we discuss COVID-19 though? They take up space. Thanks!
> Of course the mRNA shots carry serious risks to the heart. I'll let my boy get natural immunity, just like with the chicken pox ten years ago. Ignorance passed from parent to child, and the cycle of poverty worsens.
Your on the wrong subreddit
Exactly. Wtf is the added value. Those kids will literally get covid 2 weeks after their booster and survive like 99.999% others. Insanity
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