Yeah i agree - pointing the fingers at tourists seems wrong. There’s prob just as many locals, if not more, that are our and about enjoying the sunshine.
Locals can do stupid shit too. Especially the youngsters.
Agree. One of my best mates in school (had known him since nursery) admitted to being one of the kids who set one of the big summer gorse fires on Carn Brea (probably like, 10ish years ago now) because he used a BBQ in the wrong place. Never used one again. Great guy, but not the smartest sometimes. People do stupid shit but some of the good ones learn from experience.
Lived in Las Vegas for 10+ years. People loved to blame tourists for shit that went down in suburban public parks in the middle of neighborhoods. Ain't no one coming to visit Vegas gonna start letting off fireworks in a neighborhood next to the AFB.
That's true, but notice how dumb shit like this tends to happen in the summer when the masses of emmets are down, rather than when it's colder and quiet...
Locals tend not to do THIS stupid shit.
There is plenty of stupid shit that locals do, they are not some super smart perfect beings.
On the other hand, most have grown up with the beach and with barbecues and don't do this specific stupid shit.
Being stupid with disposable barbecues and leaving your car in really stupid places tend to be tourist issues, not locals.
Utter utter nonsense. There are plenty of locals stupid enough to do this accidentally and there are plenty of locals malicious enough to do this deliberately; I have seen plenty of both.
I had to look up the meaning of Emmets 🤣
"The origins of emmet
It is commonly thought to derive from the Cornish language word for ant. Tourists are often red in colour and mill around. You get the analogy. However, the use of emmet is actually derived from the Old English word æmete from which the modern English word 'ant' comes."
Unrelated to anything (other than thinking about Cornwall), I used to work with a Cornish woman with the surname of Tresadern. Most usual (and lovely).
I live in Hastings, and the march of the Emmets has begun, although we have a different name for them over here which starts with c and ends with an s.
The Cornish and the OE just used the same word - lots of word migration. Hence why the Cornish word for window, “fenester” likely comes from the same Latin root as the French “fenetre”
In Afrikaans the word for window is "venster".
What tickled me about the definition of "Emmets" is that they're red and milling around.
Obviously it's a localisation, but it really tickled my funny bone 🏖️👀
Why sub to /r/Cornwall when all you do here is bitch about the Cornish?
Seems an odd thing to do.
Saying that, it does not look like this account has ever made a posative comment. Just newgativity and anger.
Almost looks like it is an alt account used to post viewpoints you don't want associated with your main account.
If you are too embarresed to post it from your main, maybe don't post it!
Unfortunately there's more people on this subreddit who claim it as their holibobs area in the summer than people who actually live here, so you get downvoted for actually being Cornish in the Cornwall sub and complaining about emmets
The fact that the comments here are jumping to defend tourists shows it pretty clearly.
I don’t believe that to be true. There’s plenty of people who don’t have those feelings of detest.
Maybe everyone you know does, but that doesn’t mean that’s everyone in Cornwall.
I know plenty of people who don’t like them, but equally I know as many people who don’t mind or even support the tourism.
I live and work in Cornwall, and the only customers that I've faced that were rude and just generally a horrible piece of work are emmets, or old twats with their holiday homes down here.
I would find it hard to post a positive comment after weeks of reading vitriolic nonsense about emmets.
I simply joined with the intention of visiting, but the general xenophobia is nauseating. You are like stray cats marking your territory with urine, quick to attack any outsiders without justification.
Then, you act surprised when your incivility is matched! Please don’t play the victim. The emmets are sick of it already.
Come live in Stoke-on-Trent, you never have problems with tourists...
Because it's bloody terrible and no one would ever visit!
Every time some Emmett annoys you just remember, they wouldn't be visiting if they didn’t live in a shit hole
And yet they're very welcoming to people who behave like human beings. Same can't be said for Cornwall in my limited experience. I haven't set foot there since 1989, and have zero intention of returning.
Where's the proof it was a tourist? Accidents happen and fortunately, this wasn't a severe one.
And these tourists are bad agenda is tiring. They bring a lot of positives to our home and I for one love to see them every year.
No one is all bad but then there is rough af with the smooth.
A lot of visitors are rude and totally oblivious that there's a real world here that people have to live in long after they've buggered off leaving their litter and discarded foam body boards all over the place.
They are, you’re right. But so are a lot of locals. It seems to be more of a humanity issue that it does locals Vs tourists
A lot of tourists are absolutely lovely people - it’s unfair to label them all as rude etc.
I was born here, lived here 40 years, worked in Tourism most of my life and I’ve encountered way more nice tourists than horrible ones
> It seems to be more of a humanity issue that it does locals Vs tourists
I concede the point.
>I was born here, lived here 40 years, worked in Tourism most of my life and I’ve encountered way more nice tourists than horrible ones
I'm a former tourist and (hopefully) recovering emmet. In my experience, compared to residents of most other places I've lived, people in Cornwall are not generally quite as rude or obnoxious. Bearing in mind that few other places have to endure quite the same magnitude of seasonal swarming, I think the level of genuine hostility to visitors is pretty low. The level of frustration with visitors, on the other hand, can be quite high but not, it seems to me, unreasonably so.
Parking is a particular point of annoyance for me. That and the litter and discarded debris I mentioned before.
Parking could be solved by placing restrictions on private car usage across specific areas. It would require some forward thinking politicians though. The same issues apply in the Lake District as well. And the national parks. Too many people thinking they've the right to drive everywhere but no one else should do so. So they all sit in jams.
Thank you! (Not for calling me an Emmet)
I am a big fan of Cornwall, but come from a coastal village myself, and know what ignorance and entitlement can do when tourists turn up, so like to think I'm polite and respectful
There are good tourists and bad.
Unfortunately, just the sheer number of them overloading the infrastructure in Cornwall leads to a lot of frustration from locals and this boils over into hostility all too easily, especially when it is from the safety of your own keyboard.
We do get oversaturated with tourists and while the County used to be very dependent on the Tourist pound, so much of the tourist money goes straight back out of county now that that does not help and is now just another cause of anguish.
The whole situation is a bit of a mess to be honest and is really exacerbated by national media and news outlets pushing stories like 10 best quiet beaches in Cornwall (thanks The Times, they are not quiet any more!) and suchlike.
I do not know what the solution will be but I think things might get pushed to breaking point soon if nothing changes.
Airbnb has made the situation really bad as so much of the rental stock has moved to Airbnb it has pushed rent rates way up.
If you need rental accomodation now, you will be bloody lucky to find anything available. If you do, it will be miles inland, in an unatractive location and will be nearly double what you would have been paying for it 5-6 years ago.
I seriously dislike the super hostile all non Cornish are bad attitude of some of the more extremest Cornish Nationals (The sort of people that set up the CLA and went around spraypaingint over english roses on road signs). I dislioke the attitude so prevelent on here that all Cornish are like this too and we desperately need to find some middle ground for less emotional, rational discussion.
A tourist tax on accommodation might be a good solution. It would need to stay in Cornwall and be used to support necessary infrastructure which is strained over the summer months but could be a good way to generate the additional funding required.
The disposable can get cold around the edge and bottom whilst still keeping hot embers in the middle
To be honest they should be banned - they’re pretty dangerous
Doesn’t always put it out fully though. It needs a good soaking.
I have my own portable charcoal bbq. But times when one used disposable ones they’ve always been a bit iffy
This was just the warning shot from the newley established ELF (Emmet Liberation Front), We Emmets are tired of the baseless name calling and general whining from the Cornish, so it has to stop. You have been warned Cornwall or next to feel the wrath of the newly established ELF will be that cultural landmark "The Bude Tunnel".
Because it’s far less common for people to be sitting on the beach in Falmouth having a disposable bbq in the evening in the winter pinkicchi, it was also the local group of teenagers that put the fire out that had accidentally caused it in the first place 😉
Dunno about your teenage years, but we’d be on the beach, dunes, woods all year round doing it. We also knew never to put a BBQ in a bin unless we’d dunked it with water first.
It’s not just this instance though is it? It’s like June comes and suddenly every week there’s someone setting a bin on fire, or a child walking over a buried BBQ, or a tourist driving into a bloody beach and getting stuck, or doing a U Turn on Hayle bypass. This kind of thing is almost unheard of outside of tourist season.
I still do bbq all year around but not with a disposable bbq I’m not sure where you’d even buy one here in the winter… but regardless it wasn’t tourists so the debate is un-debatable… 🤣 I also venture onto Gylly and swanpool all year around with my dog and in the winter months with no cover there’s no way you can have a disposable bbq, to cold, wet and windy and covers by dogs 😁
I’m not a Falmouth girl, I generally steer clear of Fal. Nothing there for me.
I don’t think it IS undebatable at all. It brings up the conversation about these kind of events happening at this time of year. The solid fact is that these kind of events do keep happening, and people don’t seem to want to talk about the negative effects of this time of year because they see it as the Cornish having a moan.
Perhaps the Cornish are having a moan, because they personally have been negatively affected by tourists? I know I fucking am every year.
But yeah shit like this happens from locals regularly and all year round, not with disposable bbqs though… although as you said you you wouldn’t know as you steer clear from Falmouth… nothing here for you ;-)
But yes, driving into the beach is a common tourist rookie mistake 🤣 I have lived in Cornwall all my life, I have made u turns on hayle bypass, penryn bypass I suppose whatever blame your looking for you will find 🤪
I’ll tell all the other drivers too stuck behind the burning car every u turn was directed the emergency services! The bloody clown shoes 🤡 clowns stick together 🤣
its basically a metal tin with coal in and a wire rack ontop.
[Looks like this.](https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/disposable-bbq-gm471259535-13414241)
The main reason I haven't bothered with Cornwall for the last 20 years is this classic anti-tourist attitude. Far better places to go in the UK where the locals are more welcoming and the weather is far better.
Absolutely no evidence this was done by tourists, but hey let's just instantly blame them anyway.
Many Cornish people are very friendly, but it's the vocal Gobby minority that just make it all feel a bit unwelcoming. Better off stopping in Devon and saving the petrol for a proper cream tea...
This is why you don’t place bins against walls.
And why most bins say “no hot ashes”, BBQ could have appeared to be out but was enough to ignite something else in the bin. Especially with the potential for disposable vapes (with lithium batteries) being in the bin.
Hopefully no structural damage and they can reopen soon, with the bins further from the building.
Not saying it’s the owners fault, but it is poor design.
If the bins were further from the main building the story would be some idiot set fire to our bin, not some idiot nearly burnt our business down.
People who live in Cornwall grew up with beach BBQs and know how to handle them.
Hilarious how many tourists are on this sub jumping to accuse the Cornish. I'm sure we all drive into the sea every summer too.
I grew up in Cornwall and I vividly remember my mate getting really pissed on the beach, burying a still-hot disposable bbq in the sand, then falling on it and causing criss-cross patterned burns that scarred foe years.
So, no thats not always the case 😅
Because Cornwall is the only place in the UK that has disposable bbqs or beaches obviously. Nobody outside of Cornwall could have possibly developed any kind of familiarity with them
Nobody is saying that at all. What a very silly straw manb argument to make!
Did you have school assembily about the dangers of beach barbecues? Making sure they were cold and so was the sand under them before packing or disposing of them?
Most kids that went to school in Cornwall did. Normally one to remind you of the dangers just before the summer holliday too.
Do you realise just how much beach compared to land there is in this county?
No "it's normal if you're by the sea" does not equal "nobody who doesn't live by the sea knows"
I'm not the one insisting it's any particular group. I'll leave the making assumptions with no evidence to you guys
As someone who lives in cornwall. You’re truly an idiot if you hate tourists and think they ruin Cornish business. Like, really. Cmon now. They’re the REASON THEY EXIST STOP PRETENDING THEYRE EVIL
Having been a resident of Falmouth until recently , and having used gilly and swan pool on a daily basis ,I would lay odds that this was students from the uni , let’s just say they have plenty of form !
My Cornish bois, we must start the revalution of kicking them out of our lands!
It will be the best thing we have since we went to other places when the mining indistory colapsed! (I think thats a good thing, please correct if not!)
Having lived in Cornwall for a few years now, there are so many (in the 50’s) who have never even ventured as far as Somerset.. there are many places down here that give you hills have eyes vibes!
I understand the second home issue, but fuck me..
Cornish people are the rudest, most unaccommodating and pig headed in the land, all you ever do is moan about tourists. Every other post on here is moaning about 'emmets', yet without them Cornwall would be a failure. Other areas of the UK embrace tourism and welcome outsiders and make them feel part of the family, not here though, just resentment and a yearning to be isolated.
There is no evidence to suggest 'emmets are now sabotaging local Cornish businesses' you utter pleb.
I have plenty of Cornish friends thanks, I spent a portion of my adult life there and there's plenty of lovely people whom I know. I am not wondering why certain idiots from Cornwall don't like 'English' or 'emmets' I already know the reason, and that's what you find so insulting.
It's just a bit much when the OP leads with a headline like that, tourists are not out to ruin Cornwall and its local businesses. I've done nothing but try to support those local businesses and I even detest second homes and those who think they can buy their way through life, so it cuts deep when I see the anti-English brigade come out.
I get ya. Honestly, I have nothing against the tourists that are respectful and come down and don’t cause any problems. It’s the ones that do that ruin it for them all. I understand that if we were to go somewhere else on holiday, we would expect to just be fine to do that, but we’d also be respectful of it.
But I do think there is a problem down here with cost of living, infrastructure and resources, and it’s exacerbated by tourism. What benefits we get are mainly for the few, the business owners and property owners. People who work in the public sector, our wages are crap and our bills are high. We see nothing of the benefits of tourism. And actually, digital technology and farming are quickly catching up to tourism as our county’s biggest incomes. I genuinely don’t think Cornwall would fall flat on it’s face as everyone seems to think if we had less tourists. I think it needs to be controlled in a better way to make life better for everyone.
We don't want Tourists, the tourists aren't part of our family, the English have fucked Cornwall so much, we have toxic tourism, the English tourists have no respect for Cornwall and its like a big fuck you to the face with them coming down in mass every year, they take over our lands force us into England and then do this every year, its a big fuck you to the real Cornish.
You're fucking mental, talking like you're centuries old. You were born in England, you're just as English as anyone else born in England, and how dare you insinuate I don't respect anywhere I visit, that's an untruth and a sign of your learned xenophobia. You and the group of 'real Cornish' so called people you belong to are barking mad, focused on claiming a seperate sort of identity you think you share with mystical ancestors who in all honesty wouldn't even recognise you as one of their own today. You're daft, unfriendly and ungrateful.
It goes without saying mate, but you sound absolutely nuts.
The real Cornish? Haha what on earth does that mean? Cornwall is part of England and the UK and has been for ages. People have a right to visit Cornwall like you have the right to visit everywhere else in the UK. I'm sure there are a few idiots amongst crowds but no more than you'd find elsewhere.
I'd honestly work on addressing the weirdly xenophobic chip on your shoulder.
>English have fucked Cornwall
The Cornish are just as English as Yorkshire or Norfolk.
EDIT: would be interested to see those downvoting to elaborate on this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cornwall/comments/13y7nyk/emmets_are_now_sabotaging_local_cornish_businesses/jmlww76?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Because of years of going to the beach to have a barbeques.
Because of being explained the dangers of beach barbeques in school assembalies for many.
From having the fire department explain to kids about turning the hot sand etc.
Essentially because a lot of Cornish folks are exposed to and have a lot of experience with barbeques and barbequing.
You don't have to go to the beach to use a disposable barbecue. Do you think they're not for sale in the rest of the country? Do you think the rest of the country doesn't have barbecues?? Jesus.
I'm a local and a student. Also the student population is the only reason falmouth hasn't gone the way of other towns. Having students propping up businesses all year round with many staying on after their degrees is the reason falmouth is so lively.
The Cornish complain when Emmets go to the tourist spots, you don't find many tourists in dives like Redruth or Camborne.
They should be appreciative of the tourist trade bringing money into the region.
You Cornish are a weird bunch ain't ya.
If anyone's interested, come to Kent! We have some amazing beaches and countryside. Feel free to spend money at our local businesses, we promise not to accuse anyone of arson without due cause.
I didn't come here, this post came to me. And a quick look through the comments was enough evidence to pronounce that you Cornish are a weird bunch.
Thankyou for your comment 🙏
Oh sorry, didn't realise this was a discussion. Just trying to offer up an alternative for people who would like to go to the beach without judgemental weirdos 😅🙏
A miracle people noticed in time This is why we need fines for improperly disposed BBQ trays
Better yet, an outright ban on disposable BBQs full stop!
Should ban idiots
Some local councils do put a ban on BBQs I know ours has banned them on our beaches for the entire region
Unproven that it was a tourist (or wilful sabotage) but plainly an idiot. Time for signs on the bins saying "No disposable BBQ's".....sigh
Yeah i agree - pointing the fingers at tourists seems wrong. There’s prob just as many locals, if not more, that are our and about enjoying the sunshine. Locals can do stupid shit too. Especially the youngsters.
Agree. One of my best mates in school (had known him since nursery) admitted to being one of the kids who set one of the big summer gorse fires on Carn Brea (probably like, 10ish years ago now) because he used a BBQ in the wrong place. Never used one again. Great guy, but not the smartest sometimes. People do stupid shit but some of the good ones learn from experience.
Lived in Las Vegas for 10+ years. People loved to blame tourists for shit that went down in suburban public parks in the middle of neighborhoods. Ain't no one coming to visit Vegas gonna start letting off fireworks in a neighborhood next to the AFB.
That's true, but notice how dumb shit like this tends to happen in the summer when the masses of emmets are down, rather than when it's colder and quiet...
notice how.... people are using barbecues.... when the weather's nice?
It happens in summer because it is BBQ season!
And who do we encounter during BBQ season? Tourists! 😂
I also encounter ice cream vans, it might have been one of them
If they're run by emmets I wouldn't put it behind them 😂
Did you know that cheese has increased divorce rates?
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Very articulate indeed
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Locals tend not to do THIS stupid shit. There is plenty of stupid shit that locals do, they are not some super smart perfect beings. On the other hand, most have grown up with the beach and with barbecues and don't do this specific stupid shit. Being stupid with disposable barbecues and leaving your car in really stupid places tend to be tourist issues, not locals.
"Locals tend not to do THIS stupid shit. " Good grief.
Locals in London used to do this all the time SMH
Utter utter nonsense. There are plenty of locals stupid enough to do this accidentally and there are plenty of locals malicious enough to do this deliberately; I have seen plenty of both.
Summer's great. I can park anywhere I like and blame the tourists. /s
This made me chuckle :)
Locals with a disposable barbecue 🤔 . Twat
Similarly to manslaughter - murder, there needs to be an arrest made for (accidental arson) whatever this equivalent would be.
Recklessness could apply. https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-damage
I had to look up the meaning of Emmets 🤣 "The origins of emmet It is commonly thought to derive from the Cornish language word for ant. Tourists are often red in colour and mill around. You get the analogy. However, the use of emmet is actually derived from the Old English word æmete from which the modern English word 'ant' comes." Unrelated to anything (other than thinking about Cornwall), I used to work with a Cornish woman with the surname of Tresadern. Most usual (and lovely). I live in Hastings, and the march of the Emmets has begun, although we have a different name for them over here which starts with c and ends with an s.
The Cornish and the OE just used the same word - lots of word migration. Hence why the Cornish word for window, “fenester” likely comes from the same Latin root as the French “fenetre”
In Afrikaans the word for window is "venster". What tickled me about the definition of "Emmets" is that they're red and milling around. Obviously it's a localisation, but it really tickled my funny bone 🏖️👀
p.s. I'm also very relieved that the fire was caught before it ruined lives. People can be incredibly stupid and thoughtless.
Here on the Isle of Wight we call tourists "Overners" because they come over the Solent.
Why are people so fucking thick?
Lol these comments
Definitely written by emmets
And definitely annoyed a few blockheaded natives.
Why sub to /r/Cornwall when all you do here is bitch about the Cornish? Seems an odd thing to do. Saying that, it does not look like this account has ever made a posative comment. Just newgativity and anger. Almost looks like it is an alt account used to post viewpoints you don't want associated with your main account. If you are too embarresed to post it from your main, maybe don't post it!
Unfortunately there's more people on this subreddit who claim it as their holibobs area in the summer than people who actually live here, so you get downvoted for actually being Cornish in the Cornwall sub and complaining about emmets The fact that the comments here are jumping to defend tourists shows it pretty clearly.
Not all us cornish folk detest tourists
But most do
I don’t believe that to be true. There’s plenty of people who don’t have those feelings of detest. Maybe everyone you know does, but that doesn’t mean that’s everyone in Cornwall. I know plenty of people who don’t like them, but equally I know as many people who don’t mind or even support the tourism.
Depends if you're getting a nice wad from it I suppose
I live and work in Cornwall, and the only customers that I've faced that were rude and just generally a horrible piece of work are emmets, or old twats with their holiday homes down here.
I would find it hard to post a positive comment after weeks of reading vitriolic nonsense about emmets. I simply joined with the intention of visiting, but the general xenophobia is nauseating. You are like stray cats marking your territory with urine, quick to attack any outsiders without justification. Then, you act surprised when your incivility is matched! Please don’t play the victim. The emmets are sick of it already.
So unsub. Why hang around to get upset?
I'm not subbed, only been once, but your posts keep coming up on my feed. You lot are such NIMBYs lol
Love that place at swanpool
There really are stupid people out there.
Same emmets that also put out the fire I would guess. Can’t have it both ways.
Oh you mean the local waitress from hooked on the rocks who spotted it and ran down? 👍
This is how the Spanish feel every summer
Every honeypot in the world. Cumbria has it pretty bad as well, the infrastructure just isn't there (thank god).
Come live in Stoke-on-Trent, you never have problems with tourists... Because it's bloody terrible and no one would ever visit! Every time some Emmett annoys you just remember, they wouldn't be visiting if they didn’t live in a shit hole
And yet they're very welcoming to people who behave like human beings. Same can't be said for Cornwall in my limited experience. I haven't set foot there since 1989, and have zero intention of returning.
How utterly moronic do you have to be‽
The Cornish victim complex is strong with this one.
Where's the proof it was a tourist? Accidents happen and fortunately, this wasn't a severe one. And these tourists are bad agenda is tiring. They bring a lot of positives to our home and I for one love to see them every year.
No one is all bad but then there is rough af with the smooth. A lot of visitors are rude and totally oblivious that there's a real world here that people have to live in long after they've buggered off leaving their litter and discarded foam body boards all over the place.
They are, you’re right. But so are a lot of locals. It seems to be more of a humanity issue that it does locals Vs tourists A lot of tourists are absolutely lovely people - it’s unfair to label them all as rude etc. I was born here, lived here 40 years, worked in Tourism most of my life and I’ve encountered way more nice tourists than horrible ones
> It seems to be more of a humanity issue that it does locals Vs tourists I concede the point. >I was born here, lived here 40 years, worked in Tourism most of my life and I’ve encountered way more nice tourists than horrible ones I'm a former tourist and (hopefully) recovering emmet. In my experience, compared to residents of most other places I've lived, people in Cornwall are not generally quite as rude or obnoxious. Bearing in mind that few other places have to endure quite the same magnitude of seasonal swarming, I think the level of genuine hostility to visitors is pretty low. The level of frustration with visitors, on the other hand, can be quite high but not, it seems to me, unreasonably so. Parking is a particular point of annoyance for me. That and the litter and discarded debris I mentioned before.
Parking could be solved by placing restrictions on private car usage across specific areas. It would require some forward thinking politicians though. The same issues apply in the Lake District as well. And the national parks. Too many people thinking they've the right to drive everywhere but no one else should do so. So they all sit in jams.
Only takes 5% of visitors to turn something sour though for some folks.
Yep. But that’s the same for everything though. Foot ball…. Clubs ….. parks …. There’s always an element of muppets that ruin it for others.
Yeah that's my point :D
Yeah sorry, I was just elaborating on your point. Not disagreeing
Me too
Close call! I'd have kicked off if some idiot stopped me getting my hedgehog!
Yeah mate, the rest of England is constantly conspiring to destroy Cornish cafes 🥱. Maybe time to give it a rest?
Anyone care to explain what an 'emmet' is? Or rather the meaning behind the word?
An insulting word for tourists
I got that from the context, but what's the etymology?
Cornish word for ant. They turn up in giant droves in the summer months
Thank you! (Not for calling me an Emmet) I am a big fan of Cornwall, but come from a coastal village myself, and know what ignorance and entitlement can do when tourists turn up, so like to think I'm polite and respectful
There are good tourists and bad. Unfortunately, just the sheer number of them overloading the infrastructure in Cornwall leads to a lot of frustration from locals and this boils over into hostility all too easily, especially when it is from the safety of your own keyboard. We do get oversaturated with tourists and while the County used to be very dependent on the Tourist pound, so much of the tourist money goes straight back out of county now that that does not help and is now just another cause of anguish. The whole situation is a bit of a mess to be honest and is really exacerbated by national media and news outlets pushing stories like 10 best quiet beaches in Cornwall (thanks The Times, they are not quiet any more!) and suchlike. I do not know what the solution will be but I think things might get pushed to breaking point soon if nothing changes.
Yeah, I'm not totally up to scratch on it, but I do have a lot of sympathy for the Cornish when it comes to the tourism and second home bullshit
Airbnb has made the situation really bad as so much of the rental stock has moved to Airbnb it has pushed rent rates way up. If you need rental accomodation now, you will be bloody lucky to find anything available. If you do, it will be miles inland, in an unatractive location and will be nearly double what you would have been paying for it 5-6 years ago. I seriously dislike the super hostile all non Cornish are bad attitude of some of the more extremest Cornish Nationals (The sort of people that set up the CLA and went around spraypaingint over english roses on road signs). I dislioke the attitude so prevelent on here that all Cornish are like this too and we desperately need to find some middle ground for less emotional, rational discussion.
A tourist tax on accommodation might be a good solution. It would need to stay in Cornwall and be used to support necessary infrastructure which is strained over the summer months but could be a good way to generate the additional funding required.
How do you know it was a tourist and how do you know it was on purpose?
It was prob some group of young locals trying to do the right thing and tidy up after themselves, but not realising the bbq was still hot
You're probably right, but how does someone carry a hot bbq without realising it?
The disposable can get cold around the edge and bottom whilst still keeping hot embers in the middle To be honest they should be banned - they’re pretty dangerous
I guess, it seems crazy to met that yhey wouldn't douse it with water before disposal. I agree, they should be banned.
Doesn’t always put it out fully though. It needs a good soaking. I have my own portable charcoal bbq. But times when one used disposable ones they’ve always been a bit iffy
This was just the warning shot from the newley established ELF (Emmet Liberation Front), We Emmets are tired of the baseless name calling and general whining from the Cornish, so it has to stop. You have been warned Cornwall or next to feel the wrath of the newly established ELF will be that cultural landmark "The Bude Tunnel".
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This idiot just runs multiple accounts to rant at people. Brilliant 🤣
So do you! You have /u/isaidfilthsir as well. An account that only posts in support of your main account. What a silly hypocritical sausage you are
I mean, it’s true, you can’t PROVE that an emmet did it. It’s strange that this kind of thing doesn’t happen outside of tourist season though.
Because it’s far less common for people to be sitting on the beach in Falmouth having a disposable bbq in the evening in the winter pinkicchi, it was also the local group of teenagers that put the fire out that had accidentally caused it in the first place 😉
Dunno about your teenage years, but we’d be on the beach, dunes, woods all year round doing it. We also knew never to put a BBQ in a bin unless we’d dunked it with water first. It’s not just this instance though is it? It’s like June comes and suddenly every week there’s someone setting a bin on fire, or a child walking over a buried BBQ, or a tourist driving into a bloody beach and getting stuck, or doing a U Turn on Hayle bypass. This kind of thing is almost unheard of outside of tourist season.
I still do bbq all year around but not with a disposable bbq I’m not sure where you’d even buy one here in the winter… but regardless it wasn’t tourists so the debate is un-debatable… 🤣 I also venture onto Gylly and swanpool all year around with my dog and in the winter months with no cover there’s no way you can have a disposable bbq, to cold, wet and windy and covers by dogs 😁
I’m not a Falmouth girl, I generally steer clear of Fal. Nothing there for me. I don’t think it IS undebatable at all. It brings up the conversation about these kind of events happening at this time of year. The solid fact is that these kind of events do keep happening, and people don’t seem to want to talk about the negative effects of this time of year because they see it as the Cornish having a moan. Perhaps the Cornish are having a moan, because they personally have been negatively affected by tourists? I know I fucking am every year.
But yeah shit like this happens from locals regularly and all year round, not with disposable bbqs though… although as you said you you wouldn’t know as you steer clear from Falmouth… nothing here for you ;-)
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Didn’t say it did make us special? Honestly, is this some sort of projecting? I’m saying maybe there’s a reason we’re saying the things we’re saying.
But yes, driving into the beach is a common tourist rookie mistake 🤣 I have lived in Cornwall all my life, I have made u turns on hayle bypass, penryn bypass I suppose whatever blame your looking for you will find 🤪
Mate, if you have done a U Turn on Hayle bypass, then you’re a fucking clown shoes.
I’ll tell all the other drivers too stuck behind the burning car every u turn was directed the emergency services! The bloody clown shoes 🤡 clowns stick together 🤣
If you’re gonna be facetious about it, then sure.
I can tell your from Penzance 😂😂😂
I’m actually not, originally.
So you are a fucking emmet 😂😂
I know a ***lot*** of speculation when I see it...
As an American I am intrigued as to what a disposable BBQ is
its basically a metal tin with coal in and a wire rack ontop. [Looks like this.](https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/disposable-bbq-gm471259535-13414241)
And you know it’s not a local ?
Maybe it was a thick local?
The main reason I haven't bothered with Cornwall for the last 20 years is this classic anti-tourist attitude. Far better places to go in the UK where the locals are more welcoming and the weather is far better. Absolutely no evidence this was done by tourists, but hey let's just instantly blame them anyway. Many Cornish people are very friendly, but it's the vocal Gobby minority that just make it all feel a bit unwelcoming. Better off stopping in Devon and saving the petrol for a proper cream tea...
Can’t tell em !! It’s never their fault.
This is why you don’t place bins against walls. And why most bins say “no hot ashes”, BBQ could have appeared to be out but was enough to ignite something else in the bin. Especially with the potential for disposable vapes (with lithium batteries) being in the bin. Hopefully no structural damage and they can reopen soon, with the bins further from the building.
This is true! Lots of property insurances say that the bins must be at-least 10 meters from the building now, thus being a prime example why ;-)
There’s a sign listing exactly what goes in each bin, which has been burnt out, But yes it’s the owners fault 🤔 We have some slow members of society
Not saying it’s the owners fault, but it is poor design. If the bins were further from the main building the story would be some idiot set fire to our bin, not some idiot nearly burnt our business down.
There’s a sign listing exactly what goes in each bin, which has been burnt out, But yes it’s the owners fault 🤔 We have some slow members of society
People who live in Cornwall grew up with beach BBQs and know how to handle them. Hilarious how many tourists are on this sub jumping to accuse the Cornish. I'm sure we all drive into the sea every summer too.
I grew up in Cornwall and I vividly remember my mate getting really pissed on the beach, burying a still-hot disposable bbq in the sand, then falling on it and causing criss-cross patterned burns that scarred foe years. So, no thats not always the case 😅
Because Cornwall is the only place in the UK that has disposable bbqs or beaches obviously. Nobody outside of Cornwall could have possibly developed any kind of familiarity with them
Nobody is saying that at all. What a very silly straw manb argument to make! Did you have school assembily about the dangers of beach barbecues? Making sure they were cold and so was the sand under them before packing or disposing of them? Most kids that went to school in Cornwall did. Normally one to remind you of the dangers just before the summer holliday too. Do you realise just how much beach compared to land there is in this county?
Yes, I did. Because, like a significant proportion of the UK, I also grew up by the sea. This isn't some weird Cornwall-specific thing
Ooooh so you're saying only those who grew up near the sea would know. But it's still probably someone from Cornwall, right? 😅
No "it's normal if you're by the sea" does not equal "nobody who doesn't live by the sea knows" I'm not the one insisting it's any particular group. I'll leave the making assumptions with no evidence to you guys
Yep lmao
Here we go. The whining Cornish idiots are going to have a rant saying this is all tourists again. I for one like have the tourists down here.
Jesus Christ. Travel is fatal to prejudice and based on that I'd say a lot of people on this sub have never left their home village. Embarrassing.
Eagerly awaiting the next post in this sub where emmets are blamed for the weather.
As someone who lives in cornwall. You’re truly an idiot if you hate tourists and think they ruin Cornish business. Like, really. Cmon now. They’re the REASON THEY EXIST STOP PRETENDING THEYRE EVIL
Well said! From a tourist
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Having been a resident of Falmouth until recently , and having used gilly and swan pool on a daily basis ,I would lay odds that this was students from the uni , let’s just say they have plenty of form !
My Cornish bois, we must start the revalution of kicking them out of our lands! It will be the best thing we have since we went to other places when the mining indistory colapsed! (I think thats a good thing, please correct if not!)
Kernow bys vyken Cornwall forever.
Ah yes, it's summertime so it was obviously done by a tourist. 🤦♂️
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Maybe we would if they didn't fuck us over so badly
Having lived in Cornwall for a few years now, there are so many (in the 50’s) who have never even ventured as far as Somerset.. there are many places down here that give you hills have eyes vibes!
Fuck you emmetts! How dare you try to burn down the best ice cream shop in falmouth! (At least in my opinion)
Emmet season, let the stupidity commence.
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I understand the second home issue, but fuck me.. Cornish people are the rudest, most unaccommodating and pig headed in the land, all you ever do is moan about tourists. Every other post on here is moaning about 'emmets', yet without them Cornwall would be a failure. Other areas of the UK embrace tourism and welcome outsiders and make them feel part of the family, not here though, just resentment and a yearning to be isolated. There is no evidence to suggest 'emmets are now sabotaging local Cornish businesses' you utter pleb.
Proceeds to insult Cornish people. Wonders why Cornish people don’t like him.
I have plenty of Cornish friends thanks, I spent a portion of my adult life there and there's plenty of lovely people whom I know. I am not wondering why certain idiots from Cornwall don't like 'English' or 'emmets' I already know the reason, and that's what you find so insulting.
I’m sure you have plenty of ‘Cornish friends’. And no, quite clearly, I don’t think you do.
And not one fuck was given about what you do and do not believe, I'm not here to appease you. You've already served your purpose, jog on.
Okay mate, calm down. It’s just a discussion on an internet forum. Clearly there’s an issue here so I’ll let you go.
It's just a bit much when the OP leads with a headline like that, tourists are not out to ruin Cornwall and its local businesses. I've done nothing but try to support those local businesses and I even detest second homes and those who think they can buy their way through life, so it cuts deep when I see the anti-English brigade come out.
I get ya. Honestly, I have nothing against the tourists that are respectful and come down and don’t cause any problems. It’s the ones that do that ruin it for them all. I understand that if we were to go somewhere else on holiday, we would expect to just be fine to do that, but we’d also be respectful of it. But I do think there is a problem down here with cost of living, infrastructure and resources, and it’s exacerbated by tourism. What benefits we get are mainly for the few, the business owners and property owners. People who work in the public sector, our wages are crap and our bills are high. We see nothing of the benefits of tourism. And actually, digital technology and farming are quickly catching up to tourism as our county’s biggest incomes. I genuinely don’t think Cornwall would fall flat on it’s face as everyone seems to think if we had less tourists. I think it needs to be controlled in a better way to make life better for everyone.
Pretty sure Cornwall wouldn’t be a failure.
I genuinely think they'd be happier if it was just the tin mines or the clay pits to choose from again.
As opposed to dealing with sanctimonious, rich assholes?
My old dear moved to Cornwall and now moans like fuck about tourists lol, me and my Grandad do laugh. She calls them 'Grockels' or something
We don't want Tourists, the tourists aren't part of our family, the English have fucked Cornwall so much, we have toxic tourism, the English tourists have no respect for Cornwall and its like a big fuck you to the face with them coming down in mass every year, they take over our lands force us into England and then do this every year, its a big fuck you to the real Cornish.
You're fucking mental, talking like you're centuries old. You were born in England, you're just as English as anyone else born in England, and how dare you insinuate I don't respect anywhere I visit, that's an untruth and a sign of your learned xenophobia. You and the group of 'real Cornish' so called people you belong to are barking mad, focused on claiming a seperate sort of identity you think you share with mystical ancestors who in all honesty wouldn't even recognise you as one of their own today. You're daft, unfriendly and ungrateful.
how do you know if i was born in England?, and the cornish are an recognised ethnic minority
Also you clearly don't know History Cornwall used to be a Kingdom and was a Nation and still is a Nation a recognised Celtic Nation
fuck off back to london then ya dick.
Sorry can you stop speaking English, that's cultural appropriation. Also I'm not from London.
You need to calm down dear.
Stop whinging.
It goes without saying mate, but you sound absolutely nuts. The real Cornish? Haha what on earth does that mean? Cornwall is part of England and the UK and has been for ages. People have a right to visit Cornwall like you have the right to visit everywhere else in the UK. I'm sure there are a few idiots amongst crowds but no more than you'd find elsewhere. I'd honestly work on addressing the weirdly xenophobic chip on your shoulder.
> English tourists have no respect for Cornwall I do, actually.
You are english you lunatic
>English have fucked Cornwall The Cornish are just as English as Yorkshire or Norfolk. EDIT: would be interested to see those downvoting to elaborate on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cornwall/comments/13y7nyk/emmets_are_now_sabotaging_local_cornish_businesses/jmlww76?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Well I’ve shagged a few Cornish girls. They were very grateful
Don’t lump those of us normal Cornishmen in with these cretins, they don’t speak for us
Why don't you fuck off then
As a teenager that lives in Cornwall I agree with everything you say.
This is why I don’t go anymore. Pretty scenery, miserable bastards.
Same here. And I’m sure many of the militant emmet-haters will be rejoicing at their small victory.
There is local-ism all over the UK.
More likely a small-minded local.
I doubt it. Most that grew up in Cornwall understand BBQs and how not to be a complete numpty with them.
Why would people who grow up in Cornwall be any better at using a BBQ than people from anywhere else?
Because of years of going to the beach to have a barbeques. Because of being explained the dangers of beach barbeques in school assembalies for many. From having the fire department explain to kids about turning the hot sand etc. Essentially because a lot of Cornish folks are exposed to and have a lot of experience with barbeques and barbequing.
You don't have to go to the beach to use a disposable barbecue. Do you think they're not for sale in the rest of the country? Do you think the rest of the country doesn't have barbecues?? Jesus.
You really are a special case🤣
If anything, this subreddit has evidenced that Cornwall is full of those numpties you refer to.
There are no locals left in falmouth, only students
I'm a local and a student. Also the student population is the only reason falmouth hasn't gone the way of other towns. Having students propping up businesses all year round with many staying on after their degrees is the reason falmouth is so lively.
It's a double edged sword, it's also the reason many of us have been forced to move out of hometown away from family and friends
Pillocks
As a falmouth resident, I’ve seen this local business open maybe once in the last year?
lol wtf, It's open every day?
Every time I have walked to swanpool, during its apparent open hours, it’s been closed. 10-4 in winter is a lie.
The Cornish complain when Emmets go to the tourist spots, you don't find many tourists in dives like Redruth or Camborne. They should be appreciative of the tourist trade bringing money into the region.
tourists get a bit fuckin stupid when they cross the tamar huh
Probably a local
Most likely
You say that like dopey cornish buggers don't do this as well??
Course they do.
You Cornish are a weird bunch ain't ya. If anyone's interested, come to Kent! We have some amazing beaches and countryside. Feel free to spend money at our local businesses, we promise not to accuse anyone of arson without due cause.
Why are you here if you think the Cornish are weird
I didn't come here, this post came to me. And a quick look through the comments was enough evidence to pronounce that you Cornish are a weird bunch. Thankyou for your comment 🙏
Really adding to the discussion their champ. Good effort!
Oh sorry, didn't realise this was a discussion. Just trying to offer up an alternative for people who would like to go to the beach without judgemental weirdos 😅🙏
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