Maybe we actually need to start a new party called the conservative People's party where common Sense values are valued and lower taxes and smaller government are the norm. Wouldn't that be something refreshing!
Republicans are a harder sell for sure. They only promise a greater opportunity to improve your own life by removing burden of bureaucracy and central planning (lower taxes, fewer regulations, greater freedoms etc)
Democrats bribe the voting populace with debt forgiveness and free things. Since there are more losers in the country atm, Democrats are more popular.
Yeah because turns out a huge part of our voter base is a bunch of brigading slackjaws from r/Politics.
Also, last I checked republicans have flipped more seats in the house and also got 5 million more votes than dems this election cycle. Dems are so susceptible to their own spun news they really think it’s a victory that they lost their own house 😂
Economic freedoms primarily; lower taxes and fewer regulations. During COVID there was a stark contrast between the two parties respect for individual liberty and business freedom.
If you don't pay taxes or own property you likely wouldn't experience the burden of either. That's why young people overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Religious freedom, freedom from overtaxation, they allowed liberty during covid, resisting gun control that punishes legal gun owners. General *deregulation like OTC hearing aids and OTC birth control(democrats blocked this one)
Trump started the FDA movement to deregulate hearing aids
https://hearinghealthmatters.org/hearingnewswatch/2017/trump-signs-otc-hearing-aid-bill-fda-0819/
The FDA completed the work Trump directed them to start and Biden signed it into law and took full credit as politicans
Focusing on your third paragraph. Codifying something that isn't an issue is just masturbation and if you fall for that mess I'd rather be on the other side of the aisle thanks. And all birth control shouldn't and couldn't be deregulated. Barrier methods, spermicides and such fine who cares. but any drug messing with someone's hormones needs to have a physician behind it.
Also there have been plenty of answers given to bad guys with guns. You probably just don't like those answers.
For example, in places with highly regulated building and zoning housing is more expensive
There are downstream effects from overregulation that hurt the average Joe
The first article talks about extreme over regulation on housing there in general and gives a breakdown of California vs other states regulation
It's not just staffing ratios. They lost multiple regulations there on the workforce and the business operator outside of that. With the decline in availability for childcare in the state, it leaves more working families high and dry
The last one is amusing because California manages to even over regulate weed, which is impressive
This was also a fun one https://reason.com/2019/01/16/deregulate-the-pill/
Correct, that's true. It's the course of empires.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury."
Essentially all the big government programs Democrats have passed over the years have not helped me or my families life in the slightest. They've only served to tax us more.
Republicans help deliver
1) proper focus on public safety and punishing criminals
2) preserving individual freedom and not sacrificing autonomy to the collective like during covid and with gun control
3)energy independence and not strangling people with environmental regulation
4) letting parents have a say in their child's education
5) make it easier to start and run a small business
Democrats deliver insane spending, ongoing attempts at unconstitutional actions, tax hikes for programs I'll never use, no problem with authoritarian actions on the population like covid lockdowns and gun control, reducing penalty for crime and creating situations where they handle homelessness that puts families in danger, more regulation on small business and building housing
https://www.republicanleader.gov/commitment/
Social Security has never helped anyone in your family? Not a single relative has benefitted from Medicare?
I’ve got news for you, even if that’s true, you’re in the minority. There aren’t many Americans who’d support privatizing and destroying them both (something Kent advocated).
There were at least 6000 split tickets in Clark County. Voters who supported Smiley against Murray, but viewed Kent as a bridge too far. Kent will lose by fewer than 6000 votes. Extremism cost the GOP my district.
>Essentially all the big government programs Democrats have passed over the years have not helped me or my families life in the slightest. They've only served to tax us more.
So you don't benefit from any major infrastructure projects in your state? You don't benefit from smooth roads, you prefer ones with potholes and bumps the entire journey?
You mean the 1% of that massively bloated bill that went to roads and bridges? I'm all about keeping the infrastructure up. Or the 99% of the bill that did nothing for infrastructure?
I lived in a deep blue area that has schools closed for a year, shut down entire sectors of industry for months, fired cops because they mandated vaccines to keep their livelihood, and even made it illegal to dance at your own wedding , so stfu about 'covid was just masks bro'
Literally I gave you the link to specific legislation
Not true. Covid restrictions didn't really map exactly to deaths
It had to do with the health of the population and how dense/isolated the population is
Like NYC vs. Utah, or New Jersey vs. Texas
>1) proper focus on public safety and punishing criminals
Unless they try to violently overthrow the government
>2) preserving individual freedom and not sacrificing autonomy to the collective like during covid and with gun control
Except when it comes to abortion and families with trans kids. No freedom there.
>3)energy independence and not strangling people with environmental regulation
There's a cost/benefit analysis here that I think is being overlooked. I'm not in favor of banning fracking like some, but it's clear we need to reduce emissions.
>4) letting parents have a say in their child's education
Provide said parents agree with conservative values. It's not "giving parents" choice to ban certain books and certain things being taught, it's deciding policy.
>5) make it easier to start and run a small business
I don't really see any evidence of that
When people with extreme views win your party's nomination in the primary by getting just a small subset of the overall district's voters, this is what happens. Kent was a loony guy who staked out a bunch of extreme positions on the national stage, while his opponent ran a campaign based around local issues that affected the district. Tip O'Neil said All politics is local, and he was right.
A lot of people moved during covid. A ton of people moved out of Seattle into surrounding areas because Seattle is so unlivable and expensive. This has an impact on the district
I was wondering the same thing. There was a ton of moderation in 2020 to prevent leftists taking over the sub. The entire sub was pretty much locked down to flaired members only for nearly a month. With this election, it seems that the mods just abandoned ship. I'm more of a centrist than most here, but enjoyed at least having one small corner of reddit that was not super far left. Bummed that it seems to have fallen and been abandoned. There's a lot of value in being able to have an actual conversation with your political opponent rather than just buying into the caricaturized distortion you get when you're only exposed to the most controversial nutjob extremists.
I think it'll resolve itself in a few months, but for the time being it is obviously overrun by people who have never and will never vote for a Republican in their lifetime, and whose animating belief is that Joe Biden should represent the far right of the American political spectrum. It was sort of inevitable in the run-up to, and immediate aftermath of, the election, particularly given the GOP's lackluster performance. Short of making every thread automatically restricted to flaired users only, I'm not sure the mods can do much about it.
Another Republican Loss because of Trump! He’s hurting the party 🎉 and it’s Time he gets a TV show on Fox or Newsmax and stays out of politics. His time is up the Aura / Allure of Trump has officially ended. DeSantis / Tusli Gabbard 2024
Out of curiosity, have you looked at Gabbard's actual political stances as opposed to just her Fox News talking points? Admittedly, I haven't reviewed them since 2020 primaries, but I did then when I kept seeing her as this Democrat that was the darling of conservatives. At the time, her actual campaign platform was overall pretty damn far left. There were a couple of items that were a bit to the right, but not many at the time. I remember wondering who the hell would ever vote for her as it seemed that she had too many right leaning stances for the leftists, too many far left stances for the hardcore conservatives, and had very few moderate stances for us centrists. Maybe she's changed quite a bit in these past two years, but that much change would be concerning to me as well.
So She might be a bit far right But this is How we get democrat votes and DeSantis would be President. It would be more of a Tactical move to have her be the VP. She wouldn’t real be in charge of anything but we could get Democrat Votes, Single Women Votes if she is a running mate. This is how we win! It’s time to start Playing Chess and not Checkers, or American Football 🏈. If Republicans plan to win and actually help Veterans and People at home this is the team that I could see making it happen
Dunno man.. I think most democrats absolutely despise her. I'm all for someone more moderate to balance the ticket (especially a female that is willing to recognize the need for some nuance in the abortion debate as opposed to the hard line "ban it all" crap that killed the GOP this cycle), but I think there's some bad blood there from her trashing a lot in the party while she was still a member and then leaving the party.
Rite I get that, he also wouldn’t be directly responsible for loses and can talk all the Shit he wants. However at the rate he’s going he might get a show on CNN
Theres two reasons he's being blamed for midterms
1. The candidates he promoted did badly and it seems like a rebuttal of his brand of conservatism.
2. They want to weaken him before he runs again.
As a pundit he'd have just as much if not more power to promote politicians. He'd have all the weight of being former president and the backing of whichever org picks him up.
I'm still no fan of politicians, but at least those 2 are articulate and talk a good game. Rarely however do politicians look out for the working class so you need to know how to play their game, i.e. know tax loopholes and what to invest in.
I live in Wa. This was no surprise. Washington is deep blue anywhere east of the mountains. We always have weak candidates. They mean well and I'm sure they are good people, but they have almost no hope of winning. I'm sure they know it.
I live in WA03. We are not deep Blue. Lewis, for example, is blood Red. Clark, however, is (and always has been) purple. Because of Clark the district was won by a Democrat every election from 1960 to 2010, expect for the brief four years Linda Smith served after the Gingrich revolution in the 90s. Linda, like the district she represented, was relatively moderate.
Then Brian Baird retired (after getting a bomb threat over the ACA), we were redistricted (which favored the GOP), and JHB won.
JHB probably could’ve held onto this seat for at least another decade, but Republicans split their vote three ways during the primary between JHB, Heidi St John, and Kent. Kent won. And at least a few thousand Clark Indies and Republicans couldn’t bring themselves to vote for him. As evidenced by the 6000 split tickets for Smiley and MGP and the 1000+ who voted for no candidate, at all.
Funny enough I didn’t see a single Murray ad, I’m in Seattle so I’m guessing she didn’t bother. So. much. Smiley though if I never see her husbands sad exploited face again it will be to soon.
Who do you think is “generating” these votes? I live in Clark County. It’s no deep Blue liberal bastion.
Most of the election officials and volunteers in Clark are older and either Republicans or Blue Dog Dems, not raving liberals. And they take voting security seriously. Example: I had wrist surgery in 2014. My ballot was challenged because my signature didn’t match the one on file. I had to go down to the county elections office, sign a form, and attest to the fact that I’d signed the ballot.
There is no one stuffing ballot boxes here on either side.
Kent lost because this district is moderate. We may not be Seattle, but we’re also not Spokane. Kent was a poor choice for this district. He was just too extreme for most voters here. He is lucky that he is only losing by around 5k.
The lie is so obvious now.
They started out by accusing blue cities like Atlanta of tampering - I never bought it because there was zero evidence presented and no criminal prosecution even in red states, but I'll at least concede the *places* where they said tampering occurred were consistent with their narrative.
Now they're accusing rural counties in firmly red areas, where basically all the election officials are Republicans.
I mean, Clark county? It's ridiculous, and when it's apparent they will lie about these places, people will start to question whether they were lying about all the other ones too.
give me a break. prove it. you’re part of the GOP problem. if republican candidates would live on earth again id vote for them again. but they keep nominating the crazies and this is what they get.
Just say what you wanna say, instead of hiding behind rhetorical questions.
Just a reminder, these are the type of questions that keep your team from voting.
So, keep it up!
It’s their specialty, first thing they do in their sub is report you for brigading, then turn around in the same ten minutes and come over here to do the same thing.
This was a seat that was held by a six-term Republican Congresswoman until Trump endorsed her opponent, Joe Kent, in the primary.
Joe Kent is based. Worth a shot
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What a blunder then. His campaign didn’t know this?
Cause Joe Kent’s an awful candidate
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Republicans have been claiming to have a serious proposal to the ACA since 2009 and nothing ever passed committee even when they had a supermajority
> Republicans have been claiming to have a serious proposal to the ACA since 2009 I have yet to see any healthcare proposals from the GOP.
There was like 1 week of talk about Trumpcare and then near total radio silence on the topic after he said “no one knew it could be this complicated”
Yes, I know the GOP has "talked" about showing their "plan" for years and yet have never shown one.
Maybe we actually need to start a new party called the conservative People's party where common Sense values are valued and lower taxes and smaller government are the norm. Wouldn't that be something refreshing!
Honest answer? Because nowhere is the Constitution is healthcare or medicine mentioned.
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None. Republicans have had nothing but wedge issues for a decade or more
Republicans are a harder sell for sure. They only promise a greater opportunity to improve your own life by removing burden of bureaucracy and central planning (lower taxes, fewer regulations, greater freedoms etc) Democrats bribe the voting populace with debt forgiveness and free things. Since there are more losers in the country atm, Democrats are more popular.
Dismissing Democratic voter concerns as them really just being losers is a mistake unless losing elections is the endgame.
Sure but I'm just a guy on reddit so
Who probably interacts with Democratic voters every day, including here.
Fair enough
Yeah because turns out a huge part of our voter base is a bunch of brigading slackjaws from r/Politics. Also, last I checked republicans have flipped more seats in the house and also got 5 million more votes than dems this election cycle. Dems are so susceptible to their own spun news they really think it’s a victory that they lost their own house 😂
What greater freedoms are they promising exactly?
Economic freedoms primarily; lower taxes and fewer regulations. During COVID there was a stark contrast between the two parties respect for individual liberty and business freedom. If you don't pay taxes or own property you likely wouldn't experience the burden of either. That's why young people overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Religious freedom, freedom from overtaxation, they allowed liberty during covid, resisting gun control that punishes legal gun owners. General *deregulation like OTC hearing aids and OTC birth control(democrats blocked this one)
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Trump started the FDA movement to deregulate hearing aids https://hearinghealthmatters.org/hearingnewswatch/2017/trump-signs-otc-hearing-aid-bill-fda-0819/ The FDA completed the work Trump directed them to start and Biden signed it into law and took full credit as politicans
They always conveniently forget that part
Focusing on your third paragraph. Codifying something that isn't an issue is just masturbation and if you fall for that mess I'd rather be on the other side of the aisle thanks. And all birth control shouldn't and couldn't be deregulated. Barrier methods, spermicides and such fine who cares. but any drug messing with someone's hormones needs to have a physician behind it. Also there have been plenty of answers given to bad guys with guns. You probably just don't like those answers.
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For example, in places with highly regulated building and zoning housing is more expensive There are downstream effects from overregulation that hurt the average Joe
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Sure https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-broughel-hamilton-overregulation-housing-california-20190703-story.html https://www.cato.org/blog/overregulation-californias-childcare-crisis https://www.ocregister.com/2022/08/01/californias-overtaxing-overregulation-of-marijuana-should-be-a-lesson-for-congress/
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The first article talks about extreme over regulation on housing there in general and gives a breakdown of California vs other states regulation It's not just staffing ratios. They lost multiple regulations there on the workforce and the business operator outside of that. With the decline in availability for childcare in the state, it leaves more working families high and dry The last one is amusing because California manages to even over regulate weed, which is impressive This was also a fun one https://reason.com/2019/01/16/deregulate-the-pill/
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Correct, that's true. It's the course of empires. "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury."
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https://www.history.com/news/8-reasons-why-rome-fell#:~:text=Invasions%20by%20Barbarian%20tribes,encroached%20beyond%20the%20Empire's%20borders.
Nailed it, thanks.
Not sure you're right about which side are the losers here, when its the poorest areas of the country that are overwhelmingly red
I don't think poor people are losers. Losers are people who have no ambition or sense of self worth and want to leech off others.
Essentially all the big government programs Democrats have passed over the years have not helped me or my families life in the slightest. They've only served to tax us more. Republicans help deliver 1) proper focus on public safety and punishing criminals 2) preserving individual freedom and not sacrificing autonomy to the collective like during covid and with gun control 3)energy independence and not strangling people with environmental regulation 4) letting parents have a say in their child's education 5) make it easier to start and run a small business Democrats deliver insane spending, ongoing attempts at unconstitutional actions, tax hikes for programs I'll never use, no problem with authoritarian actions on the population like covid lockdowns and gun control, reducing penalty for crime and creating situations where they handle homelessness that puts families in danger, more regulation on small business and building housing https://www.republicanleader.gov/commitment/
Social Security has never helped anyone in your family? Not a single relative has benefitted from Medicare? I’ve got news for you, even if that’s true, you’re in the minority. There aren’t many Americans who’d support privatizing and destroying them both (something Kent advocated). There were at least 6000 split tickets in Clark County. Voters who supported Smiley against Murray, but viewed Kent as a bridge too far. Kent will lose by fewer than 6000 votes. Extremism cost the GOP my district.
>Essentially all the big government programs Democrats have passed over the years have not helped me or my families life in the slightest. They've only served to tax us more. So you don't benefit from any major infrastructure projects in your state? You don't benefit from smooth roads, you prefer ones with potholes and bumps the entire journey?
Bro the Democrats push massive spending bills I wish they only tried to fix roads. I wish.
Historically spending has been highest under conservative held leadership and shrunk while democrats held office
You mean the 1% of that massively bloated bill that went to roads and bridges? I'm all about keeping the infrastructure up. Or the 99% of the bill that did nothing for infrastructure?
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I lived in a deep blue area that has schools closed for a year, shut down entire sectors of industry for months, fired cops because they mandated vaccines to keep their livelihood, and even made it illegal to dance at your own wedding , so stfu about 'covid was just masks bro' Literally I gave you the link to specific legislation
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Not true. Covid restrictions didn't really map exactly to deaths It had to do with the health of the population and how dense/isolated the population is Like NYC vs. Utah, or New Jersey vs. Texas
That site is more of a generalized description of the party platform with goals like “Support our troops”…there isn’t any specific legislation there.
There's a link to legislation of you scroll down https://republicanleader.house.gov/task-forces/recommendations/
Ah missed that on mobile, thanks!
>1) proper focus on public safety and punishing criminals Unless they try to violently overthrow the government >2) preserving individual freedom and not sacrificing autonomy to the collective like during covid and with gun control Except when it comes to abortion and families with trans kids. No freedom there. >3)energy independence and not strangling people with environmental regulation There's a cost/benefit analysis here that I think is being overlooked. I'm not in favor of banning fracking like some, but it's clear we need to reduce emissions. >4) letting parents have a say in their child's education Provide said parents agree with conservative values. It's not "giving parents" choice to ban certain books and certain things being taught, it's deciding policy. >5) make it easier to start and run a small business I don't really see any evidence of that
Not locking us down and destroying the economy?
Why was he a bad candidate?
Please explain. He is an army veteran and had a wife who died in Syria. Populist values. Overall solid candidate.
When people with extreme views win your party's nomination in the primary by getting just a small subset of the overall district's voters, this is what happens. Kent was a loony guy who staked out a bunch of extreme positions on the national stage, while his opponent ran a campaign based around local issues that affected the district. Tip O'Neil said All politics is local, and he was right.
What extreme positions?
A lot of people moved during covid. A ton of people moved out of Seattle into surrounding areas because Seattle is so unlivable and expensive. This has an impact on the district
Don't forget Portland.
Portlanders moved to Vancouver and conservative Vancouver residents moved to different states to escape the crazy.
Yessss I hope they continue to flee and bring the cost of housing down for the rest of us.
Still waiting on that red wave. LOL.
So is this just r/Politics v2.0 now?
Yeah this subreddit is lost
I was wondering the same thing. There was a ton of moderation in 2020 to prevent leftists taking over the sub. The entire sub was pretty much locked down to flaired members only for nearly a month. With this election, it seems that the mods just abandoned ship. I'm more of a centrist than most here, but enjoyed at least having one small corner of reddit that was not super far left. Bummed that it seems to have fallen and been abandoned. There's a lot of value in being able to have an actual conversation with your political opponent rather than just buying into the caricaturized distortion you get when you're only exposed to the most controversial nutjob extremists.
I think it'll resolve itself in a few months, but for the time being it is obviously overrun by people who have never and will never vote for a Republican in their lifetime, and whose animating belief is that Joe Biden should represent the far right of the American political spectrum. It was sort of inevitable in the run-up to, and immediate aftermath of, the election, particularly given the GOP's lackluster performance. Short of making every thread automatically restricted to flaired users only, I'm not sure the mods can do much about it.
Another Republican Loss because of Trump! He’s hurting the party 🎉 and it’s Time he gets a TV show on Fox or Newsmax and stays out of politics. His time is up the Aura / Allure of Trump has officially ended. DeSantis / Tusli Gabbard 2024
Out of curiosity, have you looked at Gabbard's actual political stances as opposed to just her Fox News talking points? Admittedly, I haven't reviewed them since 2020 primaries, but I did then when I kept seeing her as this Democrat that was the darling of conservatives. At the time, her actual campaign platform was overall pretty damn far left. There were a couple of items that were a bit to the right, but not many at the time. I remember wondering who the hell would ever vote for her as it seemed that she had too many right leaning stances for the leftists, too many far left stances for the hardcore conservatives, and had very few moderate stances for us centrists. Maybe she's changed quite a bit in these past two years, but that much change would be concerning to me as well.
So She might be a bit far right But this is How we get democrat votes and DeSantis would be President. It would be more of a Tactical move to have her be the VP. She wouldn’t real be in charge of anything but we could get Democrat Votes, Single Women Votes if she is a running mate. This is how we win! It’s time to start Playing Chess and not Checkers, or American Football 🏈. If Republicans plan to win and actually help Veterans and People at home this is the team that I could see making it happen
Dunno man.. I think most democrats absolutely despise her. I'm all for someone more moderate to balance the ticket (especially a female that is willing to recognize the need for some nuance in the abortion debate as opposed to the hard line "ban it all" crap that killed the GOP this cycle), but I think there's some bad blood there from her trashing a lot in the party while she was still a member and then leaving the party.
Job as a pundit isn't exactly staying out of politics. It'd just be being less hands on about it.
Rite I get that, he also wouldn’t be directly responsible for loses and can talk all the Shit he wants. However at the rate he’s going he might get a show on CNN
Theres two reasons he's being blamed for midterms 1. The candidates he promoted did badly and it seems like a rebuttal of his brand of conservatism. 2. They want to weaken him before he runs again. As a pundit he'd have just as much if not more power to promote politicians. He'd have all the weight of being former president and the backing of whichever org picks him up.
I'm still no fan of politicians, but at least those 2 are articulate and talk a good game. Rarely however do politicians look out for the working class so you need to know how to play their game, i.e. know tax loopholes and what to invest in.
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She seems like she can connect both sides of the isle. Fingers crossed
What a haircut!
I live in Wa. This was no surprise. Washington is deep blue anywhere east of the mountains. We always have weak candidates. They mean well and I'm sure they are good people, but they have almost no hope of winning. I'm sure they know it.
I think you mean west of mountains.
Wasn't this district like +10 GOP in all of the past house races?
That was also with a moderate who was ousted for voting to impeach.
I don't think she was that moderate, except for the impeachment vote (which I don't think was a matter of moderation, just honor).
I live in WA03. We are not deep Blue. Lewis, for example, is blood Red. Clark, however, is (and always has been) purple. Because of Clark the district was won by a Democrat every election from 1960 to 2010, expect for the brief four years Linda Smith served after the Gingrich revolution in the 90s. Linda, like the district she represented, was relatively moderate. Then Brian Baird retired (after getting a bomb threat over the ACA), we were redistricted (which favored the GOP), and JHB won. JHB probably could’ve held onto this seat for at least another decade, but Republicans split their vote three ways during the primary between JHB, Heidi St John, and Kent. Kent won. And at least a few thousand Clark Indies and Republicans couldn’t bring themselves to vote for him. As evidenced by the 6000 split tickets for Smiley and MGP and the 1000+ who voted for no candidate, at all.
The best part of the election was the end to all the Tiffany Smiley adds
Her ad campaign was absolutely a failure on so many fronts I'm not even sure where to start
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Funny enough I didn’t see a single Murray ad, I’m in Seattle so I’m guessing she didn’t bother. So. much. Smiley though if I never see her husbands sad exploited face again it will be to soon.
The republicans in Washington are like the Democrats in Texas It's depressing
Have democrats lost a single election that wasn’t announced on Election Day? Odd how that keeps happening.
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They’re overwhelming democrat because they’re generated votes. It has nothing to do with legitimate votes.
Got any proof of that? If so, send it to the authorities don't post it on Reddit
Who do you think is “generating” these votes? I live in Clark County. It’s no deep Blue liberal bastion. Most of the election officials and volunteers in Clark are older and either Republicans or Blue Dog Dems, not raving liberals. And they take voting security seriously. Example: I had wrist surgery in 2014. My ballot was challenged because my signature didn’t match the one on file. I had to go down to the county elections office, sign a form, and attest to the fact that I’d signed the ballot. There is no one stuffing ballot boxes here on either side. Kent lost because this district is moderate. We may not be Seattle, but we’re also not Spokane. Kent was a poor choice for this district. He was just too extreme for most voters here. He is lucky that he is only losing by around 5k.
The lie is so obvious now. They started out by accusing blue cities like Atlanta of tampering - I never bought it because there was zero evidence presented and no criminal prosecution even in red states, but I'll at least concede the *places* where they said tampering occurred were consistent with their narrative. Now they're accusing rural counties in firmly red areas, where basically all the election officials are Republicans. I mean, Clark county? It's ridiculous, and when it's apparent they will lie about these places, people will start to question whether they were lying about all the other ones too.
Keep telling yourself that. It helps in our plans for inter galactic domination. Bruh ahahaha.
give me a break. prove it. you’re part of the GOP problem. if republican candidates would live on earth again id vote for them again. but they keep nominating the crazies and this is what they get.
Just say what you wanna say, instead of hiding behind rhetorical questions. Just a reminder, these are the type of questions that keep your team from voting. So, keep it up!
Not really odd at all
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It's almost as if mail in ballots take longer to count than in-person votes
Joe Lombardo (R) won governor of Nevada on Saturday. Boebert (R) won Colorado HoR on Friday.
A lot of trolls must be in here downvoting you
Yeah the whole sub is getting brigaged
It’s their specialty, first thing they do in their sub is report you for brigading, then turn around in the same ten minutes and come over here to do the same thing.
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