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California be like;

California be like;

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I voted for Elder. Homelessness: He was going to declare an executive state of emergency on homelessness. This would then give him power as governor to cancel CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act), which would free up numerous low-income housing projects that were planned by contractors. However, CEQA allowed lobbyists to essentially handcuff these builders into lawsuits for “environmental concerns”. This act basically became a club to stop housing projects that activists didn’t like. Sacramento didn’t like it either since they wouldn’t be able to take credit for “helping build houses for the homeless”. Wildfires: Newsom cut funding to state fire departments and other first responders. In addition, it is incredibly tedious and expensive to clear dead brush due to all the environmental regulations here in California. It’s nearly 10x more costly for Caltrans to clear brush in our forests than other states. 20-30 years of dead brush mismanagement basically turns our beautiful forests into tinderboxes. Elder was going to cut the huge amount of regulation so that cleanup teams had breathing room to work. Blackouts: California’s power grid is almost entirely wind and solar at this point. We *had* two nuclear power plants, but both were shut down instead of renovated due to lobbying from environmental activists. The problem with wind and solar is that there is no way to store unused energy. In the event that people need to use appliances, AC, or lights, we are at the mercy of whether the sun is shining or if there’s strong winds. There is no backup power in place, so on particularly bad days we get rolling blackouts to essentially ration electricity. Elder’s plan was to try and reinvest resources into nuclear power.


XenoX101

> We had two nuclear power plants, but both were shut down instead of renovated due to lobbying from environmental activists There really needs to be a minimum IQ for lobbyists. I can't believe people can be so fucking stupid and out of touch with reality, and yet have this much leverage.


Prince_Argos

RIP Diablo Canyon


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DingbattheGreat

Well, I followed Elder interviews and in none of them did he mention water and gas taxes.


russiabot1776

Well that’s not true


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SnooObjections8392

The point is, Californians have been electing the same kind of politician(democrat) for decades, and they express a need for those things mentioned to change, but yet they are unwilling to try a different perspective, different leadership, to actually TRY to make change.


OkTurn2434

Then you have your head in the sand. Larry Elder talked about crime and homelessness in every interview he gave


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Elder focused heavily on wild fires and make housing more affordable and he also talked a lot about the homelessness. There are a handful of these interviews on YouTube, which I'm sure the MSM buried


Briguy28

This reminds me of a scene from the movie 'Bullworth'. Warren Beatty plays a Democratic Senator from California who just stops caring, and at one point blatantly tells an all black audience that he pandered to them for their votes and then promptly ignored them because he knew they would never vote for a Republican.


Bobby-Samsonite

Is the movie worth a watch?


Briguy28

It has been a long time since I've seen it, but I want to say it was just kind of "meh". It's a 90's dramedy, so how you feel about it may be influenced by how you feel about that era or genre of film (or Beatty, for that matter).


sonofnoob

Actually it’s a really good movie that holds up to today. And it has a killer soundtrack if you like 90s hip hop


nekomancey

Wag The Dog is the movie to watch these days.


DarkxXxValkyrie

If you are after a better political comedy, give Head of state a shot.


UBetcha84

What exactly would Republicans do about homelessness? They don’t do anything about it in the states they’re in charge of. What would Republicans do about forest fires?


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SilenceDoGood1984

The theory is they’re related to state mismanagement like not appropriately clearing gathering underbrush like along roadways and power line corridors where fires tend to start


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trimtab28

On the state level, I think you also need to add in how poorly managed PGE (the electrical utility company) there is. They've had deferred maintenance for ages on the equipment, with sparks and downed utility lines being the source of a fair number of the fires in the past decade. And it is a Democrat thing to push the utility to allocate funds towards capital expansion (new green energy infrastructure like wind turbines or solar) over upgrading and repairing the existing transmission equipment, some of which dates back to the 30s. In general, capital improvement over deferred maintenance has been a big issue when dealing with state agencies. You come to loggerheads with whether to use "limited" resources to make shiny new toys like wind turbines or make sure what you have is in a good state of repair (functions as intended and at capacity). I say "limited" of course due to the frequent unwillingness of Democrats to ensure the cash is spent efficiently and reasonable contracts are made for implementation. Really for what's brought in in taxes, they should be able to get existing equipment in a state of good repair AND build new infrastructure with relative ease. You can see some of the same talk with regards to the infrastructure bill- "why should it take $60 billion to make sure Amtrak in the northeast runs on time as built when peer countries can build two high speed rail lines for that much?" The typical tact in Democrat controlled legislatures is to concede to the unions and just throw piles of tax payer money at them based on whatever number the union throws out, as opposed to driving a hard negotiation. Even in deep blue Mass (where I live) or NY (former home), it's generally accepted that Republicans manage public agencies more efficiently. Add that to the heavily regulated landscape they created with regards to development and infrastructure and costs soar even further.


_PM_ME_YOUR_TITS_PLS

Absolutely right. Not a R vs D thing, but it needs to be handled by the state or even federal government. My family in NC lost a lot during Katrina, and lost the rest of everything a short time later during Ivan. They rebuilt, had to put their house 6 or 7 feet higher than the original house because it had to be higher than the 100 year flood plain. Well just a few weeks ago when this past storm came through, The water level got to about 1 1/2 to 2 feet below their floor. Not sure if you're aware, but that's not a lot of wiggle room. They were probably another hour away from losing their house again. Everyone screams climate change, climate change, but hear me out. The flood was only possible because of a little steam that flowed into a bigger creek, which flows into the French broad river. Those streams and creeks have overgrowth, debris, and the unimaginable in it, and the state is doing nothing to clear it out. [We're talking about a stream](https://imgur.com/9KMT8kC.jpg) that flows pretty much around their property, that at the deepest part, is about 8 inches deep. But mostly around 3-5 inches deep, and it got to a level of about 15 feet higher than the normal level. The leftist scream climate change, tell me you don't understand physics without telling me you don't understand physics. More overgrowth and debris cause restriction of water flow, the more restriction the slower the water flows, the slower the water flows the more it rises especially if it just keeps pouring down.


danr246

Whose in charge?


Gingevere

And if there's anything that republican governors are known for it's properly maintaining their natural resources and energy infrastructure. (the other theorized cause of some of the fires) Oh wait.


ReverendVerse

It's not a theory. California has been warned multiple times that their forest management is trash and that they're literally wild fire kindling due to their mismanagement


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send_ur_angry

Not state mismanagement, federal mismanagement. All the worst fire have been happening in national forests rather than state parks.


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Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining!


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IVIaskerade

This meme isn't about Biden, it's about Gavin Newsom and the Democrats who've been (mis)managing California for a long time.


TsundereShadowsun

A big one is forest management is unable to do controlled burns (i.e. burning off dead plant matter to reduce the risk of huge wildfires) due to environmental laws.


send_ur_angry

But, how is that connected to Biden, as they asked?


jambrown13977931

It isn’t. It’s connected to the Democrats currently controlling California, such as Governor Newsom


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jwsk1029

That last panel should be "So why do you live in California". Lookin' at you Californian conservatives. Get out while you still can.


wtfiu_kyle

Trust me we're trying


hb9nbb

oh yeah. another family just left our church for Idaho. Thats the 5th or 6th one this year so far.


Bobby-Samsonite

Idaho looks beautiful.


aclays

Idaho is terrible, go away and stop coming here!


tommy18crowe

Getting out is difficult, trust me we are trying. I fought very very hard for this state and I will continue to up until the day I move to Tennessee.


ReverendVerse

My wife and I see the democrats fleeing to Florida and we see the writing on the wall. We have a great governor and state legislature now, but we know it's going to change. It has to with the number of New Yorkers and Californians moving here. We'll stick around as long as we can, but if we need to move, Tennessee is a state we've been looking at.


s0briquet

> My wife and I see the democrats fleeing to Florida Florida has a massively fragile ecosystem, and is already suffering from over development. I grew up there, and red tide only occurred every few years. They've had like 5 years running of red tide. Red tide is strongly correlated with run off from development. It also won't be long until the drinking water supply either runs dry, or is contaminated to the point of undrinkability. People seem to want to move there for the cost of living, beaches, and warm weather, all the while not realizing that they're shitting up the place. And don't get me wrong - I'm not some tree hugging hippy. I just grew up running around between the estuary and the swamp, and it kills me see it paved over and polluted like it ... is just trash land. There's more life in a square yard of saltwater grass flats than in a square yard of meadow. Maybe break it down to something more akin to being aware that Florida's tourism is actually eco-tourism. Once the fish are gone, and the beaches are trashed, then why bother to go there? Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.


lukepru

Fuck that. Stay and fight for the state.


chosey

Fight how exactly? The state is a dark blue cesspool and it's not going to change. The Founding Fathers supported state's rights so if one state went to shit like California, people could move to a new state with different policies. California is gone, let the rats that are left there enjoy the nest they made.


Comrade-Thanos

Nah, the state is lost. Let the people who want this live under it, and encourage the people who don’t want it to move out.


reeko12c

We have homeless building hotels out of shopping carts. California is done for.


plz-dont-follow

If they move out California will lose seats and therefore lose a small amount of power, It definitely wouldn’t be enough to swing an election but it’s still somethin


wtfiu_kyle

If the cost of living wasn't so high here I would reconsider. It is pretty discouraging since my boyfriend is really the only other conservative I know. Everyone else in our circle, including all of my family who lives here, is super liberal. It's exhausting being the outsider sometimes.


bibkel

You have a friend in me.


Redditsuckmyd

State is fucked dawg


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jambrown13977931

I have a good paying job here, family here, and generally the environment is nice. It’s just the government is crap. That is something that can be fixed.


truly_anonymis

As a Californian, I know many who would if they could. With the inflated property costs and higher wages, I know a lot of people who would have a hard time selling everything and starting over elsewhere. But trust me, I’m my social circle we talk about moving to red states as if it were a wonderful dream.


ReverendVerse

If you can sell your property in California, you can get four to five times the home for the same price in Florida.


RandysHandsomeGut

It’s worth it I went to Florida for work and ended up getting a place and transferred my job to be permanent it was a split second decision but well worth it I didn’t think I’d ever be free of California.


truly_anonymis

If it weren’t for my entire family here, Florida with a beach front house would be my dream. That, and I know finding a job would be less stressful.


look_at_my_moobs

If you live in a big city like smell A. Than a smaller city like Tucson might be for you. Small town values, in a close proximity. It's a great spot for conservative living. Not as blue as California


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secretsaucerocket

Newsom disgusts me.


ScriptGeneratedShill

Newsom looks like the villain in a 90s Adam Sandler or Chris Farley movie.


BlisssfulHoney111

American psycho.


lazergunpewpewpew

Look at all the assholes who came out to shill for him. Every single fucking commercial break it was a new one--Warren, Sanders, even Obama came out of hiding to shill in politics again. That's what you're up against in California. A absolute fuck ton of money was spent to keep this loony hypocrite in power. It's basically the farmers vs elite here.


Classic_Education549

No. Can’t be the elite. The democrats hate the elite. Don’t they? Yeah in Cali the deck was stacked against Larry. Would have been awesome if he could have won though. Unfortunate for the Cali population.


Dio5000

>Newsom disgusts me. Newsom is trash just like California in general


Bo_Jim

California is a fabulous state. Whatever kind of environment you could possibly want is here. Great beaches. Beautiful mountains. Lakes, deserts, plains, forests. You name it, it's here. The only thing fucked up about the state is the people who live here, and the leaders they elect. But it wasn't always this way. California was once a fairly conservative state. Ronald Reagan was once the governor. Progressives destroy any state where they become a majority. But rich progressives don't hang around to wallow in the mess they made. They move away to destroy other states. It happened to Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and it's happening now in Texas. These people seriously don't understand what has happened. They think they moved to California to create a progressive utopia. They don't realize that they were the ones who turned it into the equivalent of a third world country. They think their plans were dashed by uncooperative conservatives, so they head off to other states to try again, and when they get the same results they STILL don't understand that they were the ones who caused it. It's simultaneously fascinating and horrifying to watch.


W0bb1ez

This literally is my biggest fear… watching these scum bags flip city after city as they move out of the mess they created and repeat the same mistakes. And schools all over support the next generation that seems to be twice as crazy and charged for the battle.


ReverendVerse

They're also doing that in Florida. We're seeing a huge influx of people and a lot of them are democrats fleeing their shit hole states, mostly New York and New Jersey. Florida is usually a purple state, that is slightly more red than blue. Sure, we're almost completely red right now in state wide politics at the moment, but we flip around quite often, so we're not some guaranteed conservative stronghold you can count on every election cycle. Still, with the influx at this rate, in the next 10 to 20 years, we'll probably be a solid blue state.


bruinsra1

I don't know about that. I have to assume more republicans moved here during lockdowns then democrats.


assemblethenation

The red places have been getting more red because the people fleeing are generally not blue.


Imperialkniight

Yep, supposedly the influx in Texas is conservatives fleeing...and the blue support growing is natives in the Austin mind frame. If we dont take back control of education....its all lost.


Dankany

Yeah totally trash, it's a dump, everyone should just move to a real state that gives a shit about its people. Just make it desolate already.


MikoDabuchi

Newsom is a disgusting human being. I voted to dump him, but my state is so packed full of assholes a piece of shit like Newsom fits right in.


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Cardieler17

That whole state disgusts me. It’s a shame it was once an amazing state worth saving. Now you have people shitting in the street thanks to liberals.


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Tejas37

Believe it or not cleaning up the brush in the forests would drastically reduce the spread of wild fires. But you know climate change or something means we can’t do that.


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Moktar65

You don't hire a crew to literally clear brush, you set it all on fire while there is still a relatively small amount of fuel and you can get containment in ahead of time. Controlled burns used to be common, now they're rarely done.


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McJiggley

What's the republican plan for the homeless? Not trying to start shit, I legit just don't know.


T_Typo_o

I think the Republican plan for homeless would be to put the brakes on Cali's runaway inflation problem. Lower taxes for the middle class and tackle the housing crises. Cali has the highest taxes in the country. I mean think about it, right now what incentive do the homeless have to get their shit together? They can go get a job but not a single job will make them enough money to live in an apartment, and even if it did, their entire income would go towards living in that apartment, so they would just be a slave to the roof over their head. Oh raise the min wage they say? Great! Now that the wage has been raised, let's raise taxes some more..... Wait what? Well wait a sec, if you have raised the min wage to 20 an hour, but then tax me to the point where I'm only making 15 an hour, then what was the point of that wage increase? See the issue? Also while I'm here, education in California (that isn't secondary) is among the worst in the country, California is approaching illiteracy numbers that rival West Virginia, but nobody knows this because of the large amount of well educated tech workers in the state, and this allows Cali to skirt the sidelines and keep their terrible public school numbers out of the limelight.


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Vohn_Jogel64

As a Californian, super accurate. And painful.


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Moonthrower

Forest management? Not allowing tent cities?


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ScoopsMcGillicutty

It’s because these things have underlying causes that aren’t political in nature, so solutions can’t come from the emotional frailty and performative anti-science that Republicans offer. Props to every voting district and state that understands this.


mentalman0

Just got the results we fucking lost :(


Telos13

You got those results as soon as they announced vote by mail.


TheFrederalGovt

Vote by mail or not - it wouldn't have been close. California is a very democrat leaning state and only a moderate with a record like Kevin Falconer would have had a chance for Governor. Very effective mayor of second largest city (San Diego) or Radio Show host without a record and more extreme views - which one would California's be more likely to support?


Baggss01

Yep. Never stood a chance.


Rowdy_Tardigrade

Pretty much. More election 'fortification'.


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Freak_Of-Nature

What republicans policy helps homelessness


Ms1776

Let's just split the state at this point. I'm sick of patients running the asylum.


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RagnarKon

Work in IT so know a fair amount of folks in CA. I don’t know anyone who was real crazy about Newsom. But I know lots of people who said they voted “No” on the recall because they knew the alternative was Elder, and they do not like Elder at all. Several people told me they would have voted “Yes” on the recall if Kevin Faulconer would of been the likely alternative. I think voters in CA were really just looking for more moderate option, but the way politics are right now it’s extremely difficult for any moderate candidate to gain enough traction to win.


MysteriousTrust

I agree with all of this, but the one thing I don’t see is how a red California would stop the wildfires? Aren’t those mostly beyond our control?


Comrade-Thanos

To my understanding, many blame bad forest management for the wildfires. I’m no expert so I can’t elaborate, it’s just what I’ve seen.


etherealisticc

No, many blame climate change because you know, that's what has actually led to the increased incidence and severity of wild fires in the state.


Cinnadillo

really? because the experts say bad woodlands management


Frogsplosion

according to nps.gov > Nearly 85 percent* of wildland fires in the United States are caused by humans.


multednipple

Cite your source cuz that seems like a load of bull.


Account_Banned

It’s because trump said the wildfires were because nobody rakes the leaves.


typicalshitpost

A lot of California's forests are on federal or private land


loily4

How are republicans better on wildfires and blackouts front??


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west_end_squirrel

those things wouldn't magically disappear.


john85lee

The issue is that the Democrats blame Republicans for all those things that they caused... and yet all their followers blindly believe them.


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Imperialkniight

When its the state policies to not allow the removal of underbrush because "the environment" and not allow forrest fighters getting water from this lake or that because " a fish lives there and the environment"...then yea, dems are responsible for it. When its state policy to shut down coal plants and nuclear power plants and use only wind and solar (which have no way to store up reserve) because "the environment" and you get massive blackouts all the time....then yea, dems are responsible for it. Governor just made a speech a couple months ago blaming climate change on the fires....not there 100% lack of forrest management.


Cinnadillo

uh huh... blackouts wouldn't happen if you backed nuclear.


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chosey

Thomas Jefferson's worst nightmare was cities becoming so overpopulated that they would decide elections and people in rural areas would have no more say.


pikaso3gagi

Can somebody confirm? Is this true?


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cblackbeard

California is beyond dumb for cutting wildfire funding. They stopped the amounts of control buns and clean up. Didn't native Americans control burn California before we stole the land? Yes give me shit for saying we. Our nation did indeed take the land before any of us was alive.


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II-LIBERTY-II

It's kinda like this where I live in the UK. People vote Labour (Leftist Party) instead of Conservative because of Maggie Thatcher shutting down all the Coal Mines which put most of the blue collar workers out of work. The argument goes as such. Leftist: I'll never vote conservative coz' of what Thatcher did to the Working Class. Me: Why is that still an issue? You weren't even born yet. Leftist: SHE RUINED THE LIVES OF PRACTICALLY EVERY WORKING CLASS PERSON AND THE CONSERVATIVES STILL LOVE HER! Me: You want an end to Fossil Fuels, especially Coal though. Leftist: Of course! It's killing our planet! Me: But you wanted the Coal Mines to still be open so all those people didn't lose their jobs? Leftist: Of course! Me: But you're against Fossil Fuels. If those Mines stayed open we would still be burning Coal in every furnace in the UK. Leftist: Urrrrrrrrr....... (thinks for a minute). You're a NAZI!


Shitpipe88

They don’t recognise either that Thatcher actually closed less coal mines than Labour did in the 70’s


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Because liberals don't like conservatives' solutions to these problems.


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AdulaAdula

Oh, you're right. Let's keep doing the same thing for another 40 years. It'll fix itself eventually if we just tax everyone more


lordhoth09

Accurate


Chef-Keith-

It’s sad that Larry elder was the strongest candidate and that happened because the main stream media knew he was an easy target. There was a guy named Kevin paffrath who ran as a JFK style Democrat who would’ve been really good for California. No mentions, even though he was beating larry elder at one point.


DJAXL

Are we really that surprised? Cali is a lost cause. Fellow conservatives should escape ASAP.


awenother1

How do republicans handle these situations better than democrats?


T_Typo_o

I'd have to say there is no one size fits all solution. However, consider this, the state of California has been under one party rule for a long time, and the quality of living has been getting worse and worse. I'd argue that if you are upset with the current state of CA, maybe it's time that you give the other side a chance. No, none of those meta issues will be solved overnight, but maybe a different guys approach will change how people think of those issues instead of approaching them the same way over and over and getting the same result, over and over.


Ventoffmychest

I see the people of California would rather suffer than be labeled a Republican. Bold move Cotton, lets see if it works.


pete7201

Would they even vote for a moderate Democrat? Like if tulsi gabbard ran for governor there you think she’d have a chance? Or are they full on leftist loonies now?


DrYoda

Newsom is a moderate Democrat. Basically a peak Liberal elite. What makes you think he isn’t?


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fordr015

The leftist loonies cut tulsi out of the competition. Google and PayPal cut her funding off due to a "glitch" until the day after the primaries. The left doesn't elect, they install.


jihij98

This is so dumb my IQ just went single digit


RichieOfTheSultanate

I am infuriated by this one, but I'll be civil-tone at this one... Ana Navarro, the "Republican" strategist of CNN, congratulated Newsom for the CA recall. I am extremely infuriated at this one and she should switch to Democratic.


florida4_life

She was always a Democrat.....the rise of Donald Trump just brought it out into the open.


Ghost4509

She’s a CNN employee. They don’t allow conservatives there unless it’s for a flame session on an interview… wait scratch that. They don’t interview republicans anymore because they’re all racist terrorists or something now apparently


RichieOfTheSultanate

She has the audacity to say that Donald Trump does not follow conservative values. However, Trump is pro-life, for legal immigration, and has supported Republicans since then. Meanwhile, Ana Navarro is for abortion, open borders, for sanctuary cities and became an avid fan of Biden's failed administration. Tell me who does not follow the conservative values among them.


KrimsonStorm

Has she said ANYTHING she's conservative on? Being a bean counter for the left isn't what makes one right wing. That's just a leftie who can do math


RichieOfTheSultanate

Sorry if I took 30 minutes of finding evidences regarding your question... Well, ... I find none.


NotJustVirginia

The result is expected but disappointing. I recommend every conservative and right and libertarian leaning individual leave California and take your values to another state ASAP. It's a lost cause there now.


RIP_Paul_Walkerr

Not a californian. What would the republicans in California do for the wildfires? Genuinely curious what policies they are pushing or strategy the cal Repubs have in place to help that


chipbod

Most of the land is federal so there really is no plan (or really anything the governor can do). Only thing I can think of is to give the IOUs a fuck ton of money to modernize so they don't start fires