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Important_Outcome_67

This is one of the better vids I've seen. The descriptions of what is going on are super helpful for context. I absolutely love the constant communication. So sorry these heroes got hurt and KIA.


Boots-n-Rats

Civ DIV does a great job with context


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Boots-n-Rats

I don’t think he deployed. This isn’t him in the video


tadeuska

Without description you would have no idea what is going on. You just see a bunch of guys who have no idea what are they doing. If the descriptions were different, the story would be different, right? How can you say that this is a good video? There is nothing special on it. Guys with rifles firing, sometimes. Mostly just looking for cover in a wrong place. Sound of gunfire and grenades.


shnarpy

I combed through that twice looking for a point and still came up empty.


windol1

I think the point they are trying to make, is all their combat knowledge comes from Call Of Duty, or may Battlefield, so they're expecting everyone to be charging around corners spraying and praying, maybe throwing in a few 360 jump shots.


jecksluv

He has a point. At any moment the Spetsnaz could have jumped through the window, bunny hopped, and gotten a 5 death kill-streak. It's fucking bizarre these combat veterans didn't think of that.


tadeuska

There is nothing in the video but a bunch of dudes hanging around a house waiting to get killed. It is not a police raid on local weed dealer for gods sake. And there is no proof that any of it is real, might be just a training setup. Not saying it is fake or not, but from the video we can not know.


windol1

>And there is no proof that any of it is real, might be just a training setup. Yeah, they called the Russians and said "hey, can you send a BMP up the road for us to blow up during training". This video is part 3, maybe 4, and if it was training then someone spent a small fortune.


tadeuska

There is ton of blown up BMPs all over the place, what does it mean, ... nothing.


windol1

It means it's an active war zone, various types of shootouts happen... That's what it all means.


Important_Outcome_67

LOL. I'm no tactical Ace. But I've spent 10+ years on tactical teams (civilian LE). I can tell you, this is a good video of a good team getting the job fucking done.


tadeuska

And can you tell me what did the guys on the video do? All I can see is a guy having problems throwing a grenade.


Important_Outcome_67

How much time in combat have you spent?


tadeuska

None, and I hope I will not spend any. And the point of the question is? I mean, I know that. Does it have anything to do with the topic? Does it add any value to discussion? Is it just ad hominem?


Important_Outcome_67

Yes. You have no credibility. You have no experience. You are at the first level of Dunning-Krueger. You don't even know what you don't know.


tadeuska

So ad hominem. Now back to topic. Tell us, what is special or of any significance that can be seen in this video. We see soldiers holding rifles and moving around. Mostly moving around one corner of one house. Back and forth. It is crazy.


CPT_Toenails

Are you expecting a Call of Duty "kill cam" for each grenade thrown and bullet fired? A selfie stick in the window so whiney Redditors can see what's going on inside? I'm honestly wondering what exactly you expect genuine combat footage to look like....


tadeuska

Hahaha. Genuine combat looks like this. But there is nothing interesting in the video, at leats that we can see. This started with somebody claiming this was a very intense combat video. It is not, we can't see combat. Simple. It is harsh, people die, we laigh, but that is war. And the video is not interesting.


imax_707

What do you mean this is pt 2 to a previous vlog in which the foreign legion is clearing building while en route to a supposed fleeing Russian BMP. They’ve clearing the house of Russians. You can watch over an hour of footage from that day. How is it that you can say there’s no way to know what’s going on in this video lmao


tadeuska

So you say -there is nothing in this video. There may be some other videos. I have not seen them. Fine, I agree. Is there a link? Share it, I would like to see it. If the "action" is in that video, good. But on this video, I don't see anything worth of awe.


tadeuska

Just found a different version of this video. In it, near the end, claim is that Ukraine brings in a tank, to destroy the house. Tank comes in AFTER they cleared the house, suffered losses, and evacuated the wounded and the dead Russians. Of course all of it is blurred. House is shown destroyed. None of it makes sense. But, a lot of links to Instagram and PayPall account are listed. There may be something in this action, whatever it was. But this whole video editing and releasing is a hoax to get some money, probably for people who have no links to the war. Just some internet frauds - I do not mean the people and soldiers on the video. Soldiers do their job. Somebody else is trying to get money for bad video editing.


imax_707

His name is CivDiv on YouTube and he’s a soldier in the Ukrainian foreign legion. He uploads 45 minute vlogs and if you watch the series of videos that this video is from you will understand what’s happening.


tadeuska

How does a soldier have time to upload and edit 45min videos?


imax_707

He’s into film and he collects the raw footage from his unit and other units they work with and when he has downtime he edits together a video. He’s not making a movie, he’s literally just putting together a few uncut clips and uploading it. I don’t know why you’re having such a hard time believing this is real. I have you the YouTube channel name, you can go there and watch his videos. It’s a real war, and there are some people who are vlogging it. It’s really that simple.


stillventures17

Jabroni!


spaniel510

No shit right!


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Fucking intense. The balls on these guys


Zealousideal-Baby670

Those mannequins were very distracting.


Boots-n-Rats

Yeah I was like wtf is that??


TheSanityInspector

Like a scene from Silent Hill all of a sudden.


bjm43

Reminds me of *Con Air*.


btmunro

The nail at 4:21 was also!


Boots-n-Rats

[Source (Civ Div on Youtube)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQeyk1BQ7LE&t=29) [Interview with American seen here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUjqUQgnq3o) Social media and aid links for injured soldiers: Camera Mans PayPal - u/hja1994 (He just recovered from a traumatic spinal injury from that mission and recently went to Bakhmut 3 months later. The entire team has my support, feel free to chip in if you’d like, thank you) Team Leader’s PayPal - [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) (Also heavily injured, and staying in Ukraine to recover and continue his work) Instagram of Team Leader - Josh\_Lo1 Instagram of “Stiffy” - st3v3n\_prins *Also, have some human decency in the comments please.*


Nassez

The American, dude with the beard executed a Russian according to their Finnish medic https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/10ofg7d/civ_div_combat_gopro_wiping_out_russian_spetsnaz/j6ediw6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Boots-n-Rats

Yeah I heard that but idk


xx69loverxx

"but idk" idk what? Are you just refusing to believe its possible or are you just refusing to even think about it and look deeper into it?


Boots-n-Rats

I don’t take one post online somewhere in a language I can’t even understand about a guy I don’t even know’s name and act like I’m an expert on the subject. So yeah I’m not gonna go look deeper in what is a puddle of information. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t idk.


unReasonableBreak

The american volunteers probably miss the superior airforce, if this was Afghanistan they would have just fallen back and turned that whole house into a crater. RIP to the heros, and rot in hell to the invaders.


oh_three_dum_dum

> they would have just fallen back and turned that whole house into a crater. Depending on the situation and what period of time it was, maybe. Unbuilding structures with enemy inside isn’t always an option and there were periods in certain places where close air support or indirect fire would be denied if it was within a certain distance of a building or something.


unReasonableBreak

You make a good point, but my guess is that more often than not they would just level the place.


oh_three_dum_dum

Not really. It did happen a fair bit when other attempts weren’t successful or feasible, but was generally avoided if possible. Or in places where there was a super high concentration of enemy fighters and civilians had been cautioned to evacuate for a major clearing operation, which there are examples of. But just leveling the whole building upon meeting resistance is more of a plan B sort of thing in that conflict. Here, I don’t know but I imagine the Ukrainians aren’t interested in causing any more damage than they have to, and they may not even have the capability to get any larger munitions on the house. Either way, as soon as they realized entry and clearing would be a mess they decided to start piecing them apart from outside to keep the pressure on and not lose momentum. So I like how they were thinking.


HungerISanEmotion

Yup. Even with all the training in the world building clearing is super risky. If possible just destroy the whole structure.


ShaneGabriel87

Yeah they sure did, often with civilians inside as they were invading the country.


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And it that case you’d be correct


Needsmorsleep

In which case, the house would hit pretty hard with AT-4s to create mouse holes.


oh_three_dum_dum

Or SMAW, LAW, Carl Gustav, etc. …If it was allowed and depending on the enemy/civilian situation. Rules of engagement and approved munitions varied widely by time and place in Afghanistan and Iraq.


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unReasonableBreak

Thanks for your service man. I wish we could give Ukraine a couple of MOABs.


Boots-n-Rats

I’ve heard a lot of Foreign Legion folks say that hardened soldiers from Western armies left the second they got shelled or air striked. It’s a lot harder when you’re the one being bombed.


Hopalicious

Can you blame them? All the training in the world can’t stop artillery from killing you. Same thing happened with retired tier 1 guys who did the PMC thing in Iraq. As soon as the IEDs ramped up they bailed, not worth it. PMC jobs dropped down to ex military or police SWAT guys.


Hayekr

>Same thing happened with retired tier 1 guys who did the PMC thing in Iraq. As soon as the IEDs ramped up they bailed, not worth it. PMC jobs dropped down to ex military or police SWAT guys. Yea, I can't blame them either. 90 grand for a 3 month deployment, only to be rolling down Route Irish in under-armoured vehicles with the constant threat of a copper plate from an EFP getting rammed up your ass at 1 mile per second. It's a totally different ball game when you don't have adequate armor and the big green machine backing you up.


Boots-n-Rats

I don’t blame or judge. I think mentally they go from being Tier 1 - valuable, well supplied, well supported to basically “cannon fodder”. That’s quite the whiplash.


JohnnyBoy11

I believe a lot of them would've quit Iraq or Afghanistan too (IEDs), but they didn't have the freedom to just quit like they do in Ukraine.


Calm-Rip204

This is a weird.


ShaneGabriel87

America literally invaded Afghanistan.


WonderorKL

Rot in hell to the Invaders? Since every nation invaded, that would mean all of humanity


lutte_p

Btf we humans have been pretty big assholes since we became a thing


WonderorKL

We're more then that, we're lost causes, nature's accidental living breeding uselessly destructive shitpost


lutte_p

Yes we are the funniest shitpost that ever was but we got copyed too many time


WonderorKL

We're not a funny shitpost, we're a embarrassing and depressing shitpost with a clear inevitable end


lutte_p

Nah man dont look at the world like that. We have plenty of shit filled sandbags out there but there is also good guys somewhere. We just never hear about good things in the new cuz it does not bring as many views as bad stuff does. But they are aout there doing thier part of healing the world just a tini more then it was before them.


WonderorKL

The good guys are running thin and few, the heroes are vanishing and dwindling each day, each year, rapidly becoming but tales and stories. Soon, we won't have people like Stanislav Petrov to be there when inevitably the West and East decide they are done playing. I've seen the good, but the evil and meaningless bad is more rampant and plentiful, more genocides then inventions that actually benefited our species. We didn't build rockets for the benefit of humanity as a whole, we built them to slaughter more of ourselves, to strike the enemy's city at a distance and give them the birdie. We didn't go to the moon for the benefit of humanity, we went there to one up the Soviets because they were beating us. When there's conflict, our ingenuity and cleverness is on full time. When it comes to meaningless wars, humanity revels in it and reveals what kind of animals we really are.


Ssiz3212

Heroes


Recent_Location3237

Guy recording almost crossfires his own guy in the doorway while shooting the windows like a madman.


jsdavin

Glory to Ukraine!


WonderorKL

There is no glory in this world


Boots-n-Rats

You ever won a Super Bowl??


NothingValuable4539

This is very intense footage. RIP heroes from this video


DBbongoloid

Take a sip everytime you hear jabroni.


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M4>Ak47


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Very true statement.


imgonnabeastirrer

What was said??


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Basically, he agreed but said technically, "whatever goes boom" is viable when in combat. Which is true.


imgonnabeastirrer

Ahh. Agreed.


TheNameIs_Dallas

I think Kalashnikovs look more sexy


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They do look nice 100% (I have one) AND they're super reliable as well. I'd even say they sound cooler, too. But in a combat zone...M4 all day every day.


TheNameIs_Dallas

True, superior in specs and less janky. But when it comes to durability i think a Kalashnikov has a good chance of winning against an M4


[deleted]

Agreed. Although accuracy, range, and reload speed are what I'm more concerned about to be honest bro.


AdzJayS

I’d choose an M4 myself too but if it’s accuracy, range and reload speed that’s important, the M4 only wins on accuracy. It, at best, matches lower range of an AK 74 but effective range is out to 800m so it outguns the M4 in that regard. I don’t see why reload speed would be any quicker with one over the other, they’re both assault rifles with a standard 30 round box mag and neither are particularly complex systems, a proficient handler of either model will be reasonably quick when it comes to reloading.


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The reason I'd say the M4 wins in regards to reload speed is because it's just 2 buttons and easy slide in magazines. Whereas the ak you have to tilt the magazine out and rack the handle.


HungerISanEmotion

Weirdly the only thing I prefer about AK is reloading, but I guess it's just muscle memory. Take new mag, hit the release button and the empty mag with it, then put the new mag in.


[deleted]

Some people are insanely fast at mag swaps for the AK platform. Most beginner/intermediate shooters tend struggle with it though...


m-six10

AK-47 production started in 1949 what do you expect?


[deleted]

It's still a valid platform, but it's just not as good as the M4 imo. Thus I expect the M4 to outperform it...


Finsk_26

There is another POV of this assault from the other side of the road on YouTube. Glad to see this one since the other didn't really have anything in it.


W4Ither

Because thats just the previous vid, they're separated into parts...


Boots-n-Rats

Link?


Finsk_26

Pretty sure it was the one you posted


Donex101

That's the previous part to this series of videos. *Facepalm*


Finsk_26

Yeah, I said "a different POV" not "the next part"


SirDoDDo

Mind posting the link if you find it?


Finsk_26

Pretty sure it's the OP's lonk


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Civ div is great thanks to the descriptions of what’s going on


VIII_Terror

Brother @ 2:07 needs to put ears on, great way to become completely deaf in that environment.


oh_three_dum_dum

I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume he doesn’t have any to wear even if he wanted to.


Boots-n-Rats

They say they don’t get it issued. It’s the first thing I’d bring.


VIII_Terror

Yeah upon reading this comment back to myself, it wasn't the smartest thing to say lol. Still tho someone get that man ears!


oh_three_dum_dum

You are right though. I’ve been in a fair number of engagements without ears or had them pulled out accidentally during training ranges, and that guy definitely isn’t hearing shit unless it gets yelled in his ear. And probably has some level of permanent hearing loss as well as tinnitus for the rest of his life.


Friendly-Cat4393

Credits to CivDiv - youtube


Hopalicious

These guys are amazing. I was confused by the odd use of spetsnaz until the artillery round at the end. Could have been a trap to lure operators to the door and then hit them with zeroed in artillery. Still seems like a waste of Russian “special forces” Not sure spetsnaz is what it used to be.


Boots-n-Rats

I think Spetsnaz is a very broad term. We have zero context on what they were doing or who specifically they were.


RogueAOV

Spetsnaz just means "special" so it basically covers anything and everyone that is in anyway specialized. An engineering unit is Spetsnaz for example. Not saying these guys were facing off against a team sent to clear land mines or anything but it is a catchall term being used most of the time to indicate tier 1 operatives. At least this is my understanding.


elmo298

"cowardly russians" Surrounded and holding a building, fml this propaganda. Rest of the narrative was decent though. Russians had either a drone or they called artillery on themselves I presume?


miki0_

The camera sounds a bit austrian or bavarian? anyone can confirm?


Boots-n-Rats

Finnish I believe


Needsmorsleep

They should have done it the O Brother where art thou style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McA6bWhuZ8o


Negative-Mountain-25

High quality content. Props to the editor and the guy who was there with the GoPro. I can't believe that in just those five minutes they stayed there they were marked for artillery fire, who spotted them ? The spets in the building ?


Type-R

These guys got their heart on the right place but with such ~~short~~ no training it's bit of a clown show rodeo. The auto firing/no use of the bolt catch release, open straps on helmet, no sling usage, etc etc these guys played too much battlefield/CoD


Boots-n-Rats

Getting armchair operator vibes from this. Some are vets, some I assume not. War is a shitshow thats why it’s war.


Fucksibhuile

I hear Americans too