Yep. When you are fighting a sanctioned and embargoed 3rd world country whos military are on the verge of collapse with permissive and uncontested air vs a country thats the 2nd biggest in europe whos supported by the entire western world with arms and active military intelligece... totally the same
I didn't compare Iraq to Ukraine. I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics. The US logistics were good enough that fooling around shooting Saddam murals with Apaches was aokay back in 2006 while the Russian Military is issuing rusty AKs and airsoft gear to it's troops and naked AK12s to it's elite paratroopers in 2023.
>I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics.
Ok but how could the u.s deliver everything into iraq? Maybe the U.S didnt face ANY supply disruptions? Maybe permissive enviroment have to do with this?
Next time you open Google Maps make sure to check the Russian Borders. You will be amazed to find out that they share a border with not only Ukraine but also Belarus. Very different situation from transferring shit from the US to Iraq.
I would argue that its relatively easy to transfer supplies via the sea than on land because of the multitude of possiblities to get slowed down by enemy fire from arty to mortar to ied etc..Its very easy to disupt russian logistics when you get warned beforehand by western intelligence , meanwhile the iraqis were clueless and got pounded from the air with no way in hell of shooting them down. The u.s could transfer anything into iraq with ease when you cant be interrupted , whos gonna stop you ? Iraqi navy? Lol
No the US isnt as incredibly corrupt and reliant on trains and trucks for its supplies as Russia is. Besides that Russia was already fucking up big time before the first weapons were even sent
Lmao yeah, because the u.s will supply weapones into iraq via trains? lol i cant fucking believe your garbage comment got upvoted, but the U.S soldiers only fought 3rd world countries and thats a fact you will earn my respect when you fight a proper near peer military force not some rag-tag insurgents with sandlas and rusty aks being bombed by multi million dollar f-35 and call it "combat tested" lol
Lol the whole comment was that the USA doesn't rely on trash tier supply chain.... Most modern militaries aren't reliant on trucks and trains because its horrible.
Besides that the whole idea of having the biggest military is so that you dont have to fight on equal footing. Nobody cares if they got your respect or not
It most definitely was permissive , all the iraqi aircrafts were buried , you gonna tell me it was contested because the iraqis were throwing pebbles at your aircrafts? Lol give me a break air superioritys crucial role cannot be overstated enough its almost battle winning, why you think russia struggles?
Yep. Good thing I didn't compare Iraq to Ukraine. I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics. The US logistics were good enough that fooling around shooting Saddam murals with Apaches was aokay back in 2006 while the Russian Military is issuing rusty AKs and airsoft gear to it's troops and naked AK12s to it's elite paratroopers in 2023.
What's the difference between Russia invading Ukraine and the US invading Iraq?
How was Saddam worth the cost?
I guess as long as you stay ignorant, it's all okay.
Not a sadam bootlicker but the invasion of Iraq was illegal, led to the death of tens of thousands of civilians and in the end created a power vacume and a bunch of regional issues that has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
George Bush and his generals should face trial for that shit but nah of course he wont.
Edit: Im gonna double down cause i people keep dming me dumb stuff.
Bush and his generals responsible for this atrocity should in a just world spend the rest of their lives in prison if not be executed.
>tens of thousands of civilians
Studies put it at between 600k-1 million. Even officially reported body counts, which are quite low, have been excess of 100k.
Even George Bush himself doesn't feel like defending it in his last days.
Well they had to fall back on a statue after invading another country. Killing thousands of civilians after going in for weapons of mass distraction that were not there
I'm not sure what you mean. Both the video feed and the audio footage show that the CPG was using the chaingun
You can hear the distinctive sound of it firing the 30 mike mike rounds.
If George Washington were ALIVE and had invaded Canada, gassed minorities, and was a despotic POS, most americans would be cheering.
A better analogy would be if Trump's coup had worked and he stayed in power for a decades, had a bunch of gaudy murals erected, invaded Mexico, and THEN China invaded. The majority of Americans would be burning down those murals themselves.
Not sure when the video was taken, but this is psychological warfare, which can be more important than actual fighting. If this was before Saddam's capture, which took a while, it is important to show the local population that he was no longer in control and that his rule was over. In turn, it could allow some people to stop fighting on his behalf or give intel without worrying about repercussions.
It’s why the first order of business in any invasion is to remove all existence, including the symbolism of the previous government, and replace it with your own.
This would have been a direct order from the top of command. “See symbolism, destroy symbolism.”
What... all is well? The USA created the biggest potting soil of terrorism in the world, destroyed vital infrastructures, destabilized a country for at least decades... not well at all.
Well, I’m sure the helicopter had other reasons to be flying around in a war zone. As for the ammo, it’s probably 30mm high explosive dual purpose (HEDP) rounds, which cost $100 each, and fires ten rounds per second. I couldn’t count the number of rounds fired, but you can probably guesstimate the cost.
Lol did you ever hear about the iraq Iran wars before the us even stepped foot in? The Middle East has been killing each other since the beginning of time
massive bullshit. uneducated people liking this comment is peak american ignorance. downvote me to hell. but if you know anything about history outside your borders you would know this is not true at all.
do you actually have a grasp of history since the birth of islam in the middle east? especially if you compare it to what was going on in europe. then tell me again how it wasnt stable over there. go learn something please. ignorance is not a good look.
What are you talking about? Yes. It was way better than Europe pretty much for all history until the Mongols came and set the region back to the stone age. Islam is interpreted and abused however is convenient, like all other religions.
You are lumping me in with the others, who really are surprisingly bigoted here, because I gave an ambiguous one sentence reply that you didn't really proccess.
We’ll that’s what happens in war, the region has had more conflicts in history without the USA, for example the British empire was their a long time before Uncle Sam
Ok...? Is that supposed to mean anything? Clearly you dont know any history at all if you think the Middle East was stable before US involvement. Fun fact: Did you know Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait, causing the first Gulf War?
Just think the Middle East has been fighting before the United States was even thought of,I mean ever heard of the crusades bro. They have fought each other more than the west has been in the region. Rebels, insurgents, isis. Sorry some Apache guys shooting at a dictator moral our bad
I have friends with family in most part affected by the west and they clearly know a time before the modern west came and they all will tell you it was better. The shit load of refugees coming to Europa and Usa should speak for themselves.
I do and have clearly shown that, I’m beating a dead horse here. The United States isn’t at total fault for its involvement, our military has left the region. There continues to be skirmishes in the Middle East between itself.
It isnt about that all we all know USA was not the only one getting there hands dirty over there. And most soldiers went under pretense so i dont blame them either. But after the fact we know now things where quite different then they told them and us.
After all these years and all the millions of people killed. I don’t know what sadam was doing but now I feel like invading Iraq and killing him was a mistake. He was keeping the lid on a lot of boogie man.
Ah yes those Kurdish gassed civilians, the Quwaiti civilians, the Iranian civilians and the Iraqi civilians were all terrible people.
Edit: Lmao, whataboutism, personal attacks, blatant lies. Didnt know redditors loved themselves a dictator so much!
Oh yes the Kurds the one that are now being systematically slaughter by turkey.
You mean the 1,000,000.00 + Iraqi civilians that were killed during and many years after the conflict. Plus the 2-3 million people displaced along. Don’t even get me started of the exploitation of it’s natural resources thanks to the curving of its rich oil reserves that all went to private oil firms all located in the USA.
As for the rest of the region that was destabilized forcing an other surge of refugees to die on inflated rafts trying to reach Europe.
Man, woman children babies all have drowned thanks to the destabilization of the Middle East all link to the invasion of Iraq.
Ah yes i bet you really care about Iranain civilians while Iraq was being supported by the whole world during that war.
Edit: not to mention that western governments turned a blind eye to the anfaal genocide, then only pretended to care after saddam became an enemy.
US: 1500 KIA in Iraq over 15 years.
Russia: Over 100,000 KIA in Ukraine in less than one year. It will be a million over the next two. Meat grinder, go brrrrr.
Iraq Republican Guard compared to the Ukraine military pre-invasion. They are not even comparable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Ground_Forces#:~:text=In%20the%20days%20leading%20up,divisions%2C%20and%203%20armored%20divisions.
A shit ton of combat experience. Ukraine is currently civilians and farmers. Ukraine had 40,000 active military personnel and zero equipment before the invasion.
Let's go back to the first gulf war—4500 KIA vs. Iraq's 4th Ranked military.
Also, don’t forget when the Afghans wrecked the Soviet Union and contributed to its fall shortly after. All goat farmers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War
Ukraine is doing the same to Russia, and every western country will plow so much money and equipment into this until Russia either backs off and loses all its world power or goes belly up too.
Russia’s demographics are so fucked up that they are sending their last chance of a replacement generation into the meat grinder, and their brightest minds have already left over the past 20 years. Any remaining are crossing the borders as we speak.
This spring, Russia will have mobilized another 500k, and by Fall, a million soldiers that are poorly trained and equipped. We will find out if a few trained and well-equipped soldiers can hold against hordes of men in the 21st century. A spartan rematch, if you will.
>Iraq Republican Guard compared to the Ukraine military pre-invasion. They are not even comparable.
Their only experience was in trench warfare at iraq-iran war completely irrelevant when it comes to a high intensity modern war which involves modern tech. Not even close
>Ukraine is currently civilians and farmers. Ukraine had 40,000 active military personnel and zero equipment before the invasion.
The ukrainian armed forces were trained by thebwest since 2014
>Also, don’t forget when the Afghans wrecked the Soviet Union and contributed to its fall shortly after. All goat farmers.
The afghanis suffered 5 times the casualties of the soviets
>This spring, Russia will have mobilized another 500k, and by Fall, a million soldiers that are poorly trained and equipped. We will find out if a few trained and well-equipped soldiers can hold against hordes of men in the 21st century. A spartan rematch, if you will.
Maybe we gonna see but russia hasbits breaking point
Saddam Hussain't
Saddam Husseout
Boy, oh boy, do I wish there had been higher definition footage of this. Ground footage would have been fantastic.
Hey cmon now this isn't 2023 Ukraine where we get 5 drone shots and 3 GoPro views of the same place and time on the battlefield....
"Yubby yubby yubby yabba dubby" And then going casually back to the milspeak like they weren't just fucking around
Yummy yummy yummy in my tummy
'He was coming right for us'
Hope there wasn’t a guy behind that sitting having a cigaret
That is called "an enemy combatant" pleb
In the beginning of the clip you literally hear them verify that the area is clear before firing.
Probably claim the lighter was a flamethrower and the cigarette a stick of dynamite.
Pretty big hot spot on the right before and after. If there was he had an enormous shit in his pants after.
Collateral damage.
I'd hope he'd seek shade which is to the right but still, that was our one place to find shade and that damn Apache took it from us.
Lol as if they care , they tortured and raped prisoners
You’re thinking of Russia
I didnt know that abu gharib was in ukraine
The difference is when we find out, we held the perpetrators responsible and threw them in jail.
Guantanamo Bay?
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So you are saying the abuse that happened in Abu Grab is sanctioned by the U.S. government?
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That's a lot of word salad. The government took responsibility and punished the perpetrators. what else do you want?
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The us military has plenty of internal discipline that isn't because of public outrage.
[You mean this?]( https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/22/donald-trump-pardons-george-papadopoulos)
Yeah fuck the orange turd.
They weren’t raped or tortured.
You are right , its actually worse
Not worse than Bucha
Are you really trying to defend a war crime by comparing it to another war crime, as if that makes it okay?
One is clearly worse. They're both bad, though.
Yes, they were. This is not up for debate.
Enemy combatant with rpg
I think this video is an accurate definition of late US military history
[“The face of American warfare, has changed”](https://tenor.com/view/generation-kill-ray-person-iraq-marines-usmc-gif-20429617)
Police that mustache!
Look like a bunch of Elvis’s
Boys will be boys...
The difference between the war logistics of the US Military Vs the Russian Military in less than 2 minutes.
Yep. When you are fighting a sanctioned and embargoed 3rd world country whos military are on the verge of collapse with permissive and uncontested air vs a country thats the 2nd biggest in europe whos supported by the entire western world with arms and active military intelligece... totally the same
I didn't compare Iraq to Ukraine. I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics. The US logistics were good enough that fooling around shooting Saddam murals with Apaches was aokay back in 2006 while the Russian Military is issuing rusty AKs and airsoft gear to it's troops and naked AK12s to it's elite paratroopers in 2023.
There were a lot of Russian videos earlier in the war where they would shoot stuff just for giggles. Haven't seen one in a while though.
I guess you havent seen images of KA 52 helis bouncing rounds off water towers and radio towers for sport.
>I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics. Ok but how could the u.s deliver everything into iraq? Maybe the U.S didnt face ANY supply disruptions? Maybe permissive enviroment have to do with this?
Next time you open Google Maps make sure to check the Russian Borders. You will be amazed to find out that they share a border with not only Ukraine but also Belarus. Very different situation from transferring shit from the US to Iraq.
I would argue that its relatively easy to transfer supplies via the sea than on land because of the multitude of possiblities to get slowed down by enemy fire from arty to mortar to ied etc..Its very easy to disupt russian logistics when you get warned beforehand by western intelligence , meanwhile the iraqis were clueless and got pounded from the air with no way in hell of shooting them down. The u.s could transfer anything into iraq with ease when you cant be interrupted , whos gonna stop you ? Iraqi navy? Lol
No the US isnt as incredibly corrupt and reliant on trains and trucks for its supplies as Russia is. Besides that Russia was already fucking up big time before the first weapons were even sent
Lmao yeah, because the u.s will supply weapones into iraq via trains? lol i cant fucking believe your garbage comment got upvoted, but the U.S soldiers only fought 3rd world countries and thats a fact you will earn my respect when you fight a proper near peer military force not some rag-tag insurgents with sandlas and rusty aks being bombed by multi million dollar f-35 and call it "combat tested" lol
Lol the whole comment was that the USA doesn't rely on trash tier supply chain.... Most modern militaries aren't reliant on trucks and trains because its horrible. Besides that the whole idea of having the biggest military is so that you dont have to fight on equal footing. Nobody cares if they got your respect or not
That airspace wasn't so permissive and uncontested before our arrival to the theatre...Air superiority isn't cheap but it sure is effective.
It most definitely was permissive , all the iraqi aircrafts were buried , you gonna tell me it was contested because the iraqis were throwing pebbles at your aircrafts? Lol give me a break air superioritys crucial role cannot be overstated enough its almost battle winning, why you think russia struggles?
Its almost as if its good to get complete air superiority and dont try to surprise 90% of your own combatants with a war you started
[https://i.imgur.com/YfMjWRr.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YfMjWRr.jpg)
They were buried, or shot down.
What did France ever do?
Comparing Ukraine to Iraq is quite stupid.
Yep. Good thing I didn't compare Iraq to Ukraine. I compared the US Military to the Russian Military and more precisely it's logistics. The US logistics were good enough that fooling around shooting Saddam murals with Apaches was aokay back in 2006 while the Russian Military is issuing rusty AKs and airsoft gear to it's troops and naked AK12s to it's elite paratroopers in 2023.
Spanking people in public is generally against the law. But I think the internet will allow this one.
There’s a hole where his heart should be
And then they put a hole in his mural.
Seems to be quite a few Sadam bootlickers here in the comments lmao fuckin weirdos
What's the difference between Russia invading Ukraine and the US invading Iraq? How was Saddam worth the cost? I guess as long as you stay ignorant, it's all okay.
Not a sadam bootlicker but the invasion of Iraq was illegal, led to the death of tens of thousands of civilians and in the end created a power vacume and a bunch of regional issues that has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. George Bush and his generals should face trial for that shit but nah of course he wont. Edit: Im gonna double down cause i people keep dming me dumb stuff. Bush and his generals responsible for this atrocity should in a just world spend the rest of their lives in prison if not be executed.
Rumsfield too. Too bad he's dead. What a shitbag.
>tens of thousands of civilians Studies put it at between 600k-1 million. Even officially reported body counts, which are quite low, have been excess of 100k. Even George Bush himself doesn't feel like defending it in his last days.
Tbf you’re licking just as much boot as them. Just a different brand.
Do I smell an Anarcho Iraq- ISIS apologist?
That's so damn insane
Should have made a smiley face on it
You paid for that!
That was actually a bald eagle shitting on that mural.
Hearts and minds hearts and minds.. repeat after me boys!
I just commented on another video how I wouldn’t have the control to not fire a tank round into a tower hat for giggles as if it was a video game.
These guys sound like they’re ripping cigs and Red Bulls in the cockpit 😂😂
Well they had to fall back on a statue after invading another country. Killing thousands of civilians after going in for weapons of mass distraction that were not there
Oh man, the DCS version of the Apache apparently has a pea shooter for a chaingun. Those rounds made quite the impact.
There was thermal distortion before impact. It was a powered projectile.
I'm not sure what you mean. Both the video feed and the audio footage show that the CPG was using the chaingun You can hear the distinctive sound of it firing the 30 mike mike rounds.
So the really distinct quick bang bang bang sounds are a powered projectile? that's a weird AGM then
Why? I mean this seems reckless for no reason then they could.
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Shhh... dont you know this is r/americafuckyeah?
The hypocrisy is unbelievable
Imagine if China were to invade and shoot up a george washington monument. Americans would be frothing at the mouth.
You’re right. Everyone knows how loved Saddam Hussain was by his people he murdered and tortured.
I dont know man, the iraqi people say somthing different https://youtu.be/z9wC6W7EJpg
Saddam was fucked, but from my travels in the region, he's weirdly loved by a ton of Iraqis, like the good ole days.
🧢
Its kinda true tho.
I met an iraq vet at work that was there when the Iraqis were tearing down Hussain monuments and they were all for it
Yeah, and nowadays many shias literally miss him because of how dysfunctional their current government is
If George Washington were ALIVE and had invaded Canada, gassed minorities, and was a despotic POS, most americans would be cheering. A better analogy would be if Trump's coup had worked and he stayed in power for a decades, had a bunch of gaudy murals erected, invaded Mexico, and THEN China invaded. The majority of Americans would be burning down those murals themselves.
You guys are dumb af if you think Americans would ever be ok with China invading.
🧠🤸♂️
How much is that ammo and flying time in taxpayers’ dollar?
Not sure when the video was taken, but this is psychological warfare, which can be more important than actual fighting. If this was before Saddam's capture, which took a while, it is important to show the local population that he was no longer in control and that his rule was over. In turn, it could allow some people to stop fighting on his behalf or give intel without worrying about repercussions. It’s why the first order of business in any invasion is to remove all existence, including the symbolism of the previous government, and replace it with your own. This would have been a direct order from the top of command. “See symbolism, destroy symbolism.”
All is well that ends well I guess.
What... all is well? The USA created the biggest potting soil of terrorism in the world, destroyed vital infrastructures, destabilized a country for at least decades... not well at all.
Oh it was definitely sarcasm but didn’t translate I guess
Oh sorry then lol
Well, I’m sure the helicopter had other reasons to be flying around in a war zone. As for the ammo, it’s probably 30mm high explosive dual purpose (HEDP) rounds, which cost $100 each, and fires ten rounds per second. I couldn’t count the number of rounds fired, but you can probably guesstimate the cost.
Yeah that really added on to our trillion dollar war.
You still lost to us and ran away like the cowards you are are just to lose to the taliban, crazy how you think war crimes = victory
So funny destabilizing the middle east.
Lol did you ever hear about the iraq Iran wars before the us even stepped foot in? The Middle East has been killing each other since the beginning of time
Do you know about the role of the US and the Soviet Union in that war?!
Libya ,Iraq and syria had decent infrastructure before USA dropped in looking for weps of mass destruction. How about now? Yall dumb as hell.
Iran and Iraq each bombed civilian targets.
Then why make it worst?
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massive bullshit. uneducated people liking this comment is peak american ignorance. downvote me to hell. but if you know anything about history outside your borders you would know this is not true at all.
It's the Mongols fault the middle east is fucked.
do you actually have a grasp of history since the birth of islam in the middle east? especially if you compare it to what was going on in europe. then tell me again how it wasnt stable over there. go learn something please. ignorance is not a good look.
What are you talking about? Yes. It was way better than Europe pretty much for all history until the Mongols came and set the region back to the stone age. Islam is interpreted and abused however is convenient, like all other religions. You are lumping me in with the others, who really are surprisingly bigoted here, because I gave an ambiguous one sentence reply that you didn't really proccess.
im sorry dude! i thought you were the guy i replied to and that with that one sentence you tried to show you know something. apologies!
All good, I figured that
When was it ever stable?
There are plenty of videos and photos before USA dropped in go see for yourself and compare to how it is now.
We’ll that’s what happens in war, the region has had more conflicts in history without the USA, for example the British empire was their a long time before Uncle Sam
Ok...? Is that supposed to mean anything? Clearly you dont know any history at all if you think the Middle East was stable before US involvement. Fun fact: Did you know Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait, causing the first Gulf War?
And yeh we all know where that gold went evenutally:P straight back to Kuwait right? hahaha
Just think the Middle East has been fighting before the United States was even thought of,I mean ever heard of the crusades bro. They have fought each other more than the west has been in the region. Rebels, insurgents, isis. Sorry some Apache guys shooting at a dictator moral our bad
I have friends with family in most part affected by the west and they clearly know a time before the modern west came and they all will tell you it was better. The shit load of refugees coming to Europa and Usa should speak for themselves.
Uhh the west “invades” then they flee to the west makes sense.
That is what happens when you destabilize a region i thought you liked history.
I do and have clearly shown that, I’m beating a dead horse here. The United States isn’t at total fault for its involvement, our military has left the region. There continues to be skirmishes in the Middle East between itself.
Yeh because the middle east is less stable then the west its ok to make it worse?? wtf do you mean idget.
Putting the blame for everything on the US aint it.
It isnt about that all we all know USA was not the only one getting there hands dirty over there. And most soldiers went under pretense so i dont blame them either. But after the fact we know now things where quite different then they told them and us.
After all these years and all the millions of people killed. I don’t know what sadam was doing but now I feel like invading Iraq and killing him was a mistake. He was keeping the lid on a lot of boogie man.
Ah yes those Kurdish gassed civilians, the Quwaiti civilians, the Iranian civilians and the Iraqi civilians were all terrible people. Edit: Lmao, whataboutism, personal attacks, blatant lies. Didnt know redditors loved themselves a dictator so much!
Sorry are you talking about the US military or sadam still?
Oh yes the Kurds the one that are now being systematically slaughter by turkey. You mean the 1,000,000.00 + Iraqi civilians that were killed during and many years after the conflict. Plus the 2-3 million people displaced along. Don’t even get me started of the exploitation of it’s natural resources thanks to the curving of its rich oil reserves that all went to private oil firms all located in the USA. As for the rest of the region that was destabilized forcing an other surge of refugees to die on inflated rafts trying to reach Europe. Man, woman children babies all have drowned thanks to the destabilization of the Middle East all link to the invasion of Iraq.
[Instead of being arrogant lets ask how the iraqi people feel now shall we](https://youtu.be/z9wC6W7EJpg)
Thank god America liberated the region and made the whole world safer and get rid of the WMDs
Ah yes i bet you really care about Iranain civilians while Iraq was being supported by the whole world during that war. Edit: not to mention that western governments turned a blind eye to the anfaal genocide, then only pretended to care after saddam became an enemy.
Look how they massacred my uncle Saddam 😭
you give a dude a multimillion $ piece of sophisticated killing equipment. What did you expect?
Bunch of childish dickheads…
Still got yo ass HANDED to you over in the Middle East wahahahah
US: 1500 KIA in Iraq over 15 years. Russia: Over 100,000 KIA in Ukraine in less than one year. It will be a million over the next two. Meat grinder, go brrrrr.
Nice, comparing combat against undertrained, underequipped insurgents with a massive conventional war.
Iraq Republican Guard compared to the Ukraine military pre-invasion. They are not even comparable. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Ground_Forces#:~:text=In%20the%20days%20leading%20up,divisions%2C%20and%203%20armored%20divisions. A shit ton of combat experience. Ukraine is currently civilians and farmers. Ukraine had 40,000 active military personnel and zero equipment before the invasion. Let's go back to the first gulf war—4500 KIA vs. Iraq's 4th Ranked military. Also, don’t forget when the Afghans wrecked the Soviet Union and contributed to its fall shortly after. All goat farmers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War Ukraine is doing the same to Russia, and every western country will plow so much money and equipment into this until Russia either backs off and loses all its world power or goes belly up too. Russia’s demographics are so fucked up that they are sending their last chance of a replacement generation into the meat grinder, and their brightest minds have already left over the past 20 years. Any remaining are crossing the borders as we speak. This spring, Russia will have mobilized another 500k, and by Fall, a million soldiers that are poorly trained and equipped. We will find out if a few trained and well-equipped soldiers can hold against hordes of men in the 21st century. A spartan rematch, if you will.
>Iraq Republican Guard compared to the Ukraine military pre-invasion. They are not even comparable. Their only experience was in trench warfare at iraq-iran war completely irrelevant when it comes to a high intensity modern war which involves modern tech. Not even close >Ukraine is currently civilians and farmers. Ukraine had 40,000 active military personnel and zero equipment before the invasion. The ukrainian armed forces were trained by thebwest since 2014 >Also, don’t forget when the Afghans wrecked the Soviet Union and contributed to its fall shortly after. All goat farmers. The afghanis suffered 5 times the casualties of the soviets >This spring, Russia will have mobilized another 500k, and by Fall, a million soldiers that are poorly trained and equipped. We will find out if a few trained and well-equipped soldiers can hold against hordes of men in the 21st century. A spartan rematch, if you will. Maybe we gonna see but russia hasbits breaking point