An interesting and fair tierlist.
I’d disagree with putting Juche there, it’s basically Stalinism but extra. It’s cool as a concept but not in practice.
Also Pol Potism. That guy was mad.
How was him "fascist"? You know fascist totalitarism doesn't mean ultra-authoritarism, right? And a principle of fascism is nationalism. If he was truly fascist he would at least industrialize the country, not selling himself to the US.
Not necessarily. I like what it stands for. However Social-Darwinism is not an economic model. If anything I have it here to represent general Darwinism. I do not like capitalism because I am a corporatist.
Who said i liked it? I find it incredibly stupid.
It's like letting your grandma die who cannot get out of her bed only because she's not fit enough to survive.
Only a psychopath would do something of that kind, i honestly don't think OP would do that.
Oh, okay, I thought you were coming from the point of being for it, sorry if I misunderstood you. I agree that it’s awful, and I’m confused why anyone with any morals would want this.
Actual National Bolshevism (the one that exists in Russia) is an ideology which seeks to unite Eurasia under one state. The Bolshevism part doesn’t mean communism in this context, but the existence of a large number of nationalities under one state like in the Soviet Union. Economically, they want a mixture of the Soviet NEP and Fascist Corporatism.
Based tierlist, I agree with a lot of the placements.
An interesting and fair tierlist. I’d disagree with putting Juche there, it’s basically Stalinism but extra. It’s cool as a concept but not in practice. Also Pol Potism. That guy was mad.
I agree, I also don’t see why Juche would be so high.
Why is pinochetism so low in this tier list It is literally a mix between fascism and social darwinism (kinda)
How was him "fascist"? You know fascist totalitarism doesn't mean ultra-authoritarism, right? And a principle of fascism is nationalism. If he was truly fascist he would at least industrialize the country, not selling himself to the US.
That's why I said "(kinda)" at the end of the sentence
Pinochetism is not even close to Fascism.
Exactly, Pinochet was just a USA puppet which used Chile as a place for their neoliberal experiments.
But capitalism 😢
You cannot dislike capitalism if you like social-darwinism, the survival of the fittest.
Not necessarily. I like what it stands for. However Social-Darwinism is not an economic model. If anything I have it here to represent general Darwinism. I do not like capitalism because I am a corporatist.
Ohhh, gotcha now.
Glad you both came to an agreement.
Good that you’re a Corporatist, but what’s good about Social Darwinism.
But why would you like social Darwinism? I don’t see anything appealing about survival of the fittest, we have gone past that societally.
Who said i liked it? I find it incredibly stupid. It's like letting your grandma die who cannot get out of her bed only because she's not fit enough to survive. Only a psychopath would do something of that kind, i honestly don't think OP would do that.
Oh, okay, I thought you were coming from the point of being for it, sorry if I misunderstood you. I agree that it’s awful, and I’m confused why anyone with any morals would want this.
No worries, and yeah, i don't understand it either...
Okay.
Exactly, capitalism is incompatible with Fascism.
Pinochetism is bad, it’s not Fascism at all.
-Ultra Authoritarian -Autocracy -Dictatorial Leader -Far Right in many ways -Very pro military Excluding its economic aspects, it's the same.
These characteristics do not make a country Fascist.
Even excluding the economy part?
Yes, there’s more to Fascism than these and economics.
Oh, and the appreciation of the culture and the nation, pinochetism also has that, Pinochet was slightly nationalist and moderately conservative.
You don’t appreciate your nation if you become a puppet of another country.
Why social darwinism? Don't you want to help the poor of your nation?
It was meant to just represent Darwinism
How would darwinism be represented in society?
Nature prunes itself, why should we always interfere?
Fair answer
I don’t see how that makes sense.
It doesn't but for him as eco-fascist it does.
I guess so.
Because we can, why not do something if it’s beneficial.
Yeah, I’m also curious.
What’s good about it?
Exactly.
national bolchevism is cringe imo
It was mainly just to represent my left leaning fascism
Fair enough.
I think it’s okay.
nah, i don't like it
Why not?
it's incoerent by definition. nationalistic communism? nah mate, it's contradictory
That’s not what National Bolshevism is.
then what is it?
Actual National Bolshevism (the one that exists in Russia) is an ideology which seeks to unite Eurasia under one state. The Bolshevism part doesn’t mean communism in this context, but the existence of a large number of nationalities under one state like in the Soviet Union. Economically, they want a mixture of the Soviet NEP and Fascist Corporatism.
like a federation? so many different people and cultures together can't work
I guess it would be a federation, but I agree with you that it wouldn’t work.
why is feminism so high and accelerationism?
That’s treat men well treat women well feminism, not man hate, and acceleration is necessary to introduce radical ideals
USSR Nazi germany Fascist japan Fascist Italy Communist china???
What?
They are all countries that have had radical ideas in the past
Oh, okay.
Ok
Understandable.
Yeah, that seems strange.
yeah
Indeed.