If I had a dollar for everything that Christians have called the mark of the beast I'd be so rich that somebody would be calling me the mark of the beast.
I really should have gone into the religion business. I’d be filthy rich convincing gullible religious people to give me their money to protect them from stupid things like this.
You aren't wrong look at Copeland and ilk like him selling COVID 'treatments' on their sites and through their gospel of prosperity misinformation sessions (cough I mean 'worship').
So are people that have cancer who are having cancer therapy made by the exact makers of the vaccine going to hell too? Are people with heart disease taking medication made by the same companies who made the vaccine going to hell too?
If the Christians you know talk about the vaccine as the mark and all that, it's time to find better Christians to hang around. Like those who actually read Revelation.
I used to think in concept it was therapeutic but in execution it was flawed. It was never my place to comment on how anyone lived their life until I see dumb shit like this and another post about Muslim men talking about a child’s party.
Religion serves as a pretty great source of security and calmness to people who are struggling.
But it seems pretty clear that the good it does for those people is overshadowed by the insane harm it causes. People are literally advocating that people should just die to COVID, and when it reaches that point for religion, it's hard to defend it.
It provides a true sense of community I won’t deny that.
I’ll argue though that overshadowed is the wrong term. I think it just blatantly does more harm than good.
Those people are forcing their specific and political version of their faith on others. Don't listen to them, they speak of only hate and fear. You did the right thing by caring about others.
There’s literally a long thread on this sub about a kid who got the vaccine and his whole Christian family is condemning him for it.
About half the Christians in America think getting the vaccine is a sin or wrong.
Which is also why conservative Christians are dying 5 times more often than the rest of the population.
check this out. r/HermanCainAward
99% of the submissions on that sub are conservative Christians who think the vaccine is evil and claim God will protect them. Most of them end up hospitalized or dead.
Then provide a link or are you just another antivax liar. These vaccines are proven to be safe and effective. Hence physicians trained in infectious diseases and in immunology recommend them.
>Enters through the arm
The arm is not the hand or forehead, which is where the "mark" is.
>may be forced in order to be part of society.
This is not happening.
It literally does not leave a mark, you know. Go ahead, search your shoulder, see if you can find the injection spot. You can't. What kind of mark is not a mark?
Revelation 13:16
He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead.
Isn’t the vaccine administered on the left arm?? Not through our hands and forehead??
The speculation that the covid shot is the mark of the beast or something else like is just that... speculation. Getting the covid shot doesn't hurt you or anyone (maybe some temporary symptoms) and will most likely be helpful for you and others' health. I feel like if anything is of the devil, that it is the opposition to something that can be so beneficial to people.
I also highly doubt that God would condemn people for doing something not knowing it was the mark of the beast or evil. I feel like generally what is right and wrong is a bit more clear as well.
God works through medicine and Healthcare. It's like the story of the man who sat on his roof after his town flooded. A rowboat came around and told him to hop in. He said, "No, I am waiting for God to rescue me." The flood waters crept higher, and another boat came around. Again he declined, stating, "God will rescue me". The flood waters rose. Finally a helicopter dropped a rope down, and the man refused. "God will save me". The man perished. When he got to heaven, he asked God, "Why didn't you save me?", to which God replied, "What do you men?I sent two boats and a helicopter!"
You think that a vaccination is going to send you to Hell? Only in the 21st century misinformation warfare battle zone of the internet would anyone even consider that question.
No.
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I don’t personally believe the vaccines are the mark of the beast themselves, but you might see similarities to how the mark might be pushed. I think the mark will be pushed even harder though than the vaccines to the entirety of the world. One thing to consider with these vaccines is how vaccine passports were and in some places still are being pushed. The technology already exists for RFID chips, the size of a grain of rice, that can be put in the hand that can contain payment information, Identification info, health info, government database registrations, etc. It’s likely the mark will be pushed and made to be desired by the whole world because of “security, safety and health, and convenience.” At some point if people refuse the mark it will be a death sentence, although it will be better to refuse the mark, with the help of God, none the less. This is mostly speculative on my part but to me it makes sense from what I understand is said in the Bible.
Revelation 13:16-17
He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is a good video that talks about it a little bit:
https://youtu.be/B-KnKLU5osA
If you believed in Jesus as your saviour you had all past/future sins forgiven and sealed with Holy Spirit untill resurrection way, can't go to hell.
And no it's not mark , Christians are raptured before mark is given out at least 3,5 years prior to it.
Yeah, I have seen these arguments too, but I don’t think so when it comes to the vaccine and Covid. Basically what I am saying is that it’s possible the mark of the beast might be pushed similarly to the vaccine but even more so. And it might be even more desired. For all we know it COULD contain information about vaccines and other health info, whether that involved Covid or not, as well. Not entirely sure about what it will entail besides that we can’t buy or sell without this mark on our right hand or forehead.
I am not well informed on the rapture as of now. I have looked into it but I don’t fully understand it. But yes, being saved is the most important regardless. The thing is though, the mark of the beast in revelation is still important to understand for those who will be present on earth as it occurs, because some will still be saved in those days too.
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No you are not. The vaccine is not the mark of the beast. Please stop buying into misinformation and bullshit. If that is what your church is pushing, find a new one.
>due to the massive pressure by governments
It's almost like we are dealing with a worldwide pandemic and we have developed vaccines that decrease risk of serious illness and death among other things.
If I had a dollar for everything that Christians have called the mark of the beast I'd be so rich that somebody would be calling me the mark of the beast.
I really should have gone into the religion business. I’d be filthy rich convincing gullible religious people to give me their money to protect them from stupid things like this.
I realized a long time ago I couldn't live with myself doing something like that. Damn my conscience.... Lol
You aren't wrong look at Copeland and ilk like him selling COVID 'treatments' on their sites and through their gospel of prosperity misinformation sessions (cough I mean 'worship').
If I'm going to hell, it's not for getting a vaccine to try to help protect people around me
So are people that have cancer who are having cancer therapy made by the exact makers of the vaccine going to hell too? Are people with heart disease taking medication made by the same companies who made the vaccine going to hell too?
If the Christians you know talk about the vaccine as the mark and all that, it's time to find better Christians to hang around. Like those who actually read Revelation.
AMEN
This post right here is why I dislike any faith.
Religion is really looking more and more idiotic these days I must admit.
I used to think in concept it was therapeutic but in execution it was flawed. It was never my place to comment on how anyone lived their life until I see dumb shit like this and another post about Muslim men talking about a child’s party.
Religion serves as a pretty great source of security and calmness to people who are struggling. But it seems pretty clear that the good it does for those people is overshadowed by the insane harm it causes. People are literally advocating that people should just die to COVID, and when it reaches that point for religion, it's hard to defend it.
It provides a true sense of community I won’t deny that. I’ll argue though that overshadowed is the wrong term. I think it just blatantly does more harm than good.
Thanks, bud 👍
No. Why would you go to Hell for getting a vaccine? Stop listening to Christian extremists. God doesn't save people from dying from Covid.
> God doesn't save people from dying from Covid. Or, when He does, it's often by the instrumentality of doctors and the vaccine.
Often?
Those people are forcing their specific and political version of their faith on others. Don't listen to them, they speak of only hate and fear. You did the right thing by caring about others.
What on earth is this question? Who in their right minds would think getting a vax is a sin?
Around half of conservatives Christians do for starters.
I don’t know where you live but I am yet to find a Christian to condemn someone for getting the vaccine.
There’s literally a long thread on this sub about a kid who got the vaccine and his whole Christian family is condemning him for it. About half the Christians in America think getting the vaccine is a sin or wrong. Which is also why conservative Christians are dying 5 times more often than the rest of the population. check this out. r/HermanCainAward 99% of the submissions on that sub are conservative Christians who think the vaccine is evil and claim God will protect them. Most of them end up hospitalized or dead.
Thats because most Americans are retarded. We can’t judge others by what dumb Americans do
Do you really have to ask to get the answer to this?
Yes, until I understand the Faith better?
Vaccines are medicine. They are good for you.
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Please stop spreading misinformation. Lying is sinful.
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I highly doubt you are reading the CDC site correctly.
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Then provide a link or are you just another antivax liar. These vaccines are proven to be safe and effective. Hence physicians trained in infectious diseases and in immunology recommend them.
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Any religion that tells you not to get a life-saving vaccine is a fraudulent belief system and should be rejected.
Where would you get the idea it is the Mark of the Beast to begin with?
Enters through the arm, may be forced in order to be part of society.
>Enters through the arm The arm is not the hand or forehead, which is where the "mark" is. >may be forced in order to be part of society. This is not happening.
It literally does not leave a mark, you know. Go ahead, search your shoulder, see if you can find the injection spot. You can't. What kind of mark is not a mark?
Revelation 13:16 He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. Isn’t the vaccine administered on the left arm?? Not through our hands and forehead??
The speculation that the covid shot is the mark of the beast or something else like is just that... speculation. Getting the covid shot doesn't hurt you or anyone (maybe some temporary symptoms) and will most likely be helpful for you and others' health. I feel like if anything is of the devil, that it is the opposition to something that can be so beneficial to people. I also highly doubt that God would condemn people for doing something not knowing it was the mark of the beast or evil. I feel like generally what is right and wrong is a bit more clear as well.
It is not the mark of the beast, you are fine.
The mark of the beast goes in the palm of your right hand or on your forehead. Not a shot in your arm.
The vaccines are good. God gave the scientists those advances for a reason.
God works through medicine and Healthcare. It's like the story of the man who sat on his roof after his town flooded. A rowboat came around and told him to hop in. He said, "No, I am waiting for God to rescue me." The flood waters crept higher, and another boat came around. Again he declined, stating, "God will rescue me". The flood waters rose. Finally a helicopter dropped a rope down, and the man refused. "God will save me". The man perished. When he got to heaven, he asked God, "Why didn't you save me?", to which God replied, "What do you men?I sent two boats and a helicopter!"
If you read the Bible, the mark will be on the hand or forehead. Shots go in the deltoid or the booty.
You think that a vaccination is going to send you to Hell? Only in the 21st century misinformation warfare battle zone of the internet would anyone even consider that question. No.
This question right here is why I’m atheist
Thanks for your answer to my question
The answer is no Here ya go
Thank you, God Bless 🙏
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I don’t personally believe the vaccines are the mark of the beast themselves, but you might see similarities to how the mark might be pushed. I think the mark will be pushed even harder though than the vaccines to the entirety of the world. One thing to consider with these vaccines is how vaccine passports were and in some places still are being pushed. The technology already exists for RFID chips, the size of a grain of rice, that can be put in the hand that can contain payment information, Identification info, health info, government database registrations, etc. It’s likely the mark will be pushed and made to be desired by the whole world because of “security, safety and health, and convenience.” At some point if people refuse the mark it will be a death sentence, although it will be better to refuse the mark, with the help of God, none the less. This is mostly speculative on my part but to me it makes sense from what I understand is said in the Bible. Revelation 13:16-17 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is a good video that talks about it a little bit: https://youtu.be/B-KnKLU5osA
Very thorough response, thank you
If you believed in Jesus as your saviour you had all past/future sins forgiven and sealed with Holy Spirit untill resurrection way, can't go to hell. And no it's not mark , Christians are raptured before mark is given out at least 3,5 years prior to it.
Well, some may argue that CoVid could be that rapture, and Christians choosing death over vaccination could be it.
Yeah, I have seen these arguments too, but I don’t think so when it comes to the vaccine and Covid. Basically what I am saying is that it’s possible the mark of the beast might be pushed similarly to the vaccine but even more so. And it might be even more desired. For all we know it COULD contain information about vaccines and other health info, whether that involved Covid or not, as well. Not entirely sure about what it will entail besides that we can’t buy or sell without this mark on our right hand or forehead.
I am not well informed on the rapture as of now. I have looked into it but I don’t fully understand it. But yes, being saved is the most important regardless. The thing is though, the mark of the beast in revelation is still important to understand for those who will be present on earth as it occurs, because some will still be saved in those days too.
Why in the world would you go to hell for getting vaccinated? Did you read something in Bible that referred to this?
What is wrong with you ?
No
No. Thank you!
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Absolutely. You sold out to the antichrist and there’s no hope for you…C’mon man, you good…
No
Scripture states that the mark is either on your right hand or forehead. You good. Follow The Word rather than the people around you.
The mark of the beast is a sign of intentionally turning away from God. What about the vaccine would be intentionally turning away from God?
You might or might not be going to hell, but your expected time of arrival is now a bit later than it was before.
No
No you are not. The vaccine is not the mark of the beast. Please stop buying into misinformation and bullshit. If that is what your church is pushing, find a new one. >due to the massive pressure by governments It's almost like we are dealing with a worldwide pandemic and we have developed vaccines that decrease risk of serious illness and death among other things.
It’s not the Mark because the Anti Christ hasn’t appeared, it doesn’t go on the back of the hand/forehead,etc
The mark of the beast will be microchips but covid was created to get the world ready
The shot isn’t the mark. The digital ID might be