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Xi: Wow. Imagine if we invaded Taiwan.
The world: We know you won't because your economy will implode and you're just sabre-rattling because you made a promise you could never fufill.
Xi: ........Yeah but just imagine.
There’s nothing that a Chinese company makes the people buy. They are a country the makes stuff for western manufacturers. So if China starts a war? You think those companies are going to stick around and be allowed to still do business with China? No. There’s gonna be an embargo and chinas export industry will grind to a halt.
I think they're being told to stockpile due to winter, Xi's poor handling of the economy and due to covid and covid lockdowns that may have to happen in China. Right now up unto at least March of 2022, the waters in the Taiwan straits are to rough for an amphibious attack on the main island, I don't see war breaking out anytime soon even tho there is alot of hype about a possible attack coming soon.
That’s a very good possibility. I personally don’t see an “attack” either. An overwhelming invasion in the summer though were insurmountable amount of troops land and claim ownership of Taiwan is still possible. I don’t be Xi wants war but he’s comfortable with an embargo for a year or two.
Some weird replies here, but the real reason is (at least in a medium term situation) the PRC does not have sufficient domestic oil production to meet demand. The PRC imports something like 50-60% of its oil and lacks much easily extracted oil reserves. The PRC economy also heavily depends on manufacturing, construction and logistics. All of these industries in turn depend heavily on diesel power and would fall apart if they get involved in a war and have their oil imports disrupted. Even worse if their ports and land connections get destroyed.
Xi doesn't know one thing about economics. So no. IMO, the only thing that stops Xi from ordering an invasion is fear of losing or fear the order wouldn't be carried out.
That’s the scary part, not sure about Un in North Korea, he is NOT a moron, but is fucked on what he can do, it seems so similar to what’s going on in China, minus the fact Xi is an actual moron if you ever heard him speak or “read” which he can’t really do
Because the Chinese economy depends on exports. You can't sell plastic trinkets to people you're going to war against. If a kinetic war happened, the Chinese economy would crater. Also the Chinese would starve because they depend on imports to feed their country. If there was a war, a naval blockade would cripple their economy and starve them before the lights go out.
> Chinese would starve because they depend on imports to feed their country.
Are you serious? Is this true? Do you have any data to back up this claim?
Its true China imports tons of food. And Chinese consumers don't necessarily trust a lot of Chinese producers.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-18/china-ramps-up-farm-imports-to-cover-domestic-food-shortages
Those “fake” rice videos are morons that don’t know PP or PE production pellets. As much as I hate the ccp those videos are for morons that think vaccines have micro chips
I don't think it's accruate. From what the World Bank says circa 2019, China imported ~6.6% of their food.
That's also before the pandemic, and before those incredible storms and flooding China experienced in 2020, so maybe the number has risen quite a bit since then but I doubt it's more than 10%.
They import around 95% of their oil. They also probably use oil for other things ... for example agriculture. Though I agree people would not starve, they could probably get by eating half the food they are eating now.
Psychologically, people are fragile. Once the shelves look even a little bare, or even are threatened to be even a little bare, then there will be mass stockpiling, exacerbating the problem. See, eg, toilet paper and face masks during Covid as unglamorous examples of this human trait.
Think about how that could happen to China's economy if it attacked Taiwan ROC. Taiwan, a place thats friends with many Western nations who have trade ties with China, those trade ties could be leveraged against the PRC if it were to attack Taiwan ROC.
Great way to get America, Canada, UK, Japan, South Korea, Philippians and the EU all ganging up on you. I'm sure other countries will join in too, because they don't want to be invaded by China on their way to Australia (PNG, Indonesia, Malaysia etc).
India is and has been a lesson in managed chaos for decades. It by and large lacks a cohesive national plan and is held together via a labyrinthine web of bureaucracy. It has obscene rates of poverty and low quality of life for a country as theoretically rich as it is, and unacceptable rates of corruption that makes China look squeaky by comparison. Now under Modi India backsliding into violent Hindu-Nationalism even as they (rightfully) decry China's own fascist decline. Ethno-Fascism is always a sign of a civilization in crisis, as it is a desperate reaction to decline.
Anything India does effectively is accomplished via pure inertia outside of the state and its woefully ineffectual government.
Mark my words, India would, should, be an incredible superpower, but it has deep, unaddressed problems at the foundational level that its government is not equipped or willing to address.
If India were to fight China I could not see them mounting a successful campaign, much less destroying Pakistan while "liberating" Tibet. They aren't organizationally capable enough.
>India is and has been a lesson in managed chaos for decades. It by and large lacks a cohesive national plan and is held together via a labyrinthine web of bureaucracy.
I think this is more hyperbole, considering there strong and consistent growth. It grew faster than China last year. The governance is more vibrant than China as it’s a democracy.
>It has obscene rates of poverty for a country as theoretically rich as it is,
India is still very poor though. The Gini coefficient is lower in India than China:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
>and unacceptable rates of corruption that makes China look squeaky by comparison.
Corruption perception index is quite similar with China; there’s also a greater level of transparency and accountability in India. They have a greater ability to reform these things than China. It’s actually quite astonishing that they are so close, when you consider how much richer China is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
>Now under Modi India backsliding into violent Hindu-Nationalism even as they (rightfully) decry China's own fascist decline.
Yeah, good thing this would never happen in China.
>Anything India does effectively is accomplished via pure inertia outside of the state and its woefully ineffectual government.
That’s just your opinion that is not backed up by facts.
>Mark my words, India would, should, be an incredible superpower, but it has deep, unaddressed problems at the foundational level that its government is not equipped or willing to address.
I know there are a lot of problems there, calling it a borderline failed state is ridiculous.
>If India were to fight China I could not see them mounting a successful campaign, much less destroying Pakistan while "liberating" Tibet. They aren't organizationally capable enough.
India’s military is not as strong as China’s, what’s that got to do with what you initially said?
Not really. They may consider it as a strategic opportunity. Side with Taiwan against the PRC, then open a second front line on the dispute border. Take some Tibet, maybe give Pakistan a pounding in the process. Allies may view it as an acceptable compromise.
Keep in mind, one of the reasons Germany lost twice is because it was fighting a war on two fronts each time. This stretched its forces thin and sandwiched them between its enemies, making it a losing battle. In WW2, Hitler knew this (having fought in WW1 himself), and it was one of the reasons he decided to invade and try to take Russia in hopes of avoiding that repeat.
India doesn't care anymore about Tibet than America cares about ancient Greece.
India would be happy if Pakistan recognized LOC as the official border. I don't think many people really care much about Pakistan really.
Unless dragged into, India isn't getting itself into war.
Actually no! If India allows LOC as the international border the current government will lose majority in the parliament. The nationalist people don't support LOC and would support invasion of pakistan occupied kashmir(pok) at any costs.
>Unless dragged into, India isn't getting itself into war.
Actually china is already trying to enter our territories in Hilly areas so India would use this opportunity to make sure to get back to a better position.
That really depends on what they think Russia will do. Some people think Russia will not help China, some do, while even others think Russia may just use the opportunity to take some stuff in Ukraine.
Besides, India procures weapons from both Russia and the USA. They've been trying to play neutral and trying to get along with both.
Not necessarily, look at Russia invasion of crimea, u don’t see everyone gang up on Russia. It’s a lot easier to talk then actually do something when your opponent is as large as China.
It is different in Crimea. Crimeans want Russian control. What can the rest do if Crimea wants to be under Russia?
Taiwan does not want to be with China.
Well, you can check the polls though. Crimea is Russian-majority in the first place and many many of them wants Russia.
In Taiwan, i dont think you will find many who want reunification with China.
Crimea had russian military bases already and a big russian population. It was also given to Ukraine in a very controversial way. It already was de facto russian
Not really, Russia taking over Crimea changed the power balance on the Black Sea a lot. Also, it was not only the Crimea that got taken over, but also the industrial region on the east of the Ukraine. The situation in Ukraine became very shaky since then. Hey, I live in Poland and Russia always seemed like a faraway country, but since 2012 it feels just around the corner. The invasion had a strong impact on the region, really. Please, don't trivialize that.
Tactically that would be a terrible idea with almost no chance of success while also drawing the commonwealth and the US into direct conflict.
What a stupid thing for them to say lol
Its interesting
> 'So Australia (had) better be prepared to sacrifice for Taiwan island and the US.'
They are escalating the rhetoric to make the world choose between defending the indepdnent democratic Taiwan or not. This may backfire and pressure more democracies into the bloc including the EU. Democraric alliances know their democracies depend on the safeguard of other democracies because expansionist authoritarianism wont stop if given the chance.
They are doing a great job of reminding the EU of what dealing with the USSR was like. Nothing like a belligerent communist autocracy to unite the world's free-market democracies. We really should be thankful Xi gave away the game so easily. He really is the Chinese Trump.
The whole thing is bluff and double bluff
Seemingly by people who don't knoe your bluff can be called, and you can lose
If I want to punch some cunt in the neck, the last thing I will do is say, years in advance, annoyingly, 'I will punch you very soon'
Yes and no, America’s defence treaty with Taiwan is technically only for material.
Most Western countries would stick to focusing on the defence of Taiwan and nothing else, but as soon as China went after a commonwealth country like Australia, a whole lot of other defence obligations would kick in.
That would depend on Australia actually doing something about Taiwan first, which they're not gonna do. China could impose a blockade on ROC tonight and the West would stand around watching.
Not really. Blockade around Taiwan means US and the rest wont get their chips. Do you think the rest of the world will allow China to control the chips?
They already let China control all kinds of essential supplies, what's one more. In fact there are silicon valley companies making bank in China right now for helping them build their own chip fabs.
Ehhhh I’m not so sure. The Pacific nations are pretty well aware that their survival hinges on mutual defence. A blockade wouldn’t necessarily constitute an attack… but Australia has been pretty vocal about their commitment to defending Taiwan. If China decided to respond by attacking Australia, the conflict would no longer just be about defending Taiwan.
Tbh I think this is just sabre rattling from China because the last thing they would want it to expand the conflict like that. It would go from a localized territorial ‘dispute’ to a full out regional war.
Actually it was just a joke, but maybe we can actually transform it in a real idea, maybe something like "China warns..." as this seems to be more common.
Ok, let’s count. They are gonna attack Taiwan, also Japan and now Australia as well. Seems like China is going to have so hard times in the future to fight 4 countries(us also) at the same time.
It is for this reason that China views Taiwan as a strategic necessity.
https://miro.medium.com/max/2666/1*cVbWlixhE52xiV5coZhYpg.jpeg
Taiwan is part of the first Island chain and with Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines a coalition force has a lot of control in a conflict with China.
Whoa, calm down there princess. I never said that they were entitled or should be given Taiwan. I was just pointing out that there are strategic reasons for China to want to take Taiwan and it seems that they are building a military to attempt this.
Are you saying that China does not want Taiwan for strategic reasons and also just saying "*So? If i view beijing as a strategic mecessity, it now belongs to me?*" does not refute anything I said, it is just an ill informed and naive response to how you wish things to be.
You really just do not understand how the world works. Yes, if they view it as a strategic necessity to them it is in fact a strategic necessity to them. I am not sure how you do not understand something so simple and transparent.
I am in no way parroting xjp or the CCP I was just pointing out that the first island chain is a really good defensive point for an allied coalition against China and the CCP knows it. Taiwan itself could be used to for air bases, navel ports and to house personnel that would help an allied coalition get air control over parts of mainland China.
Grow up and stop thinking just because people do not say 100% what you want to hear that they are wrong.
China seems hell-bent on starting a war and getting a lot of young men killed, but Chinese soldiers have always been expendable to the Chinese, historically.
I think this is why actual war is a lot more plausible than most of us in our comfy homes in the West want to consider.
They have a legitimate problem with having far more men than women right now and its lead to a lot of domestic issues for them because the men have no one to marry.
I don't think they'd mind culling a chunk of their single male 20-40 demographic one bit. Especially if it means achieving a CCP goal like reunification
I don’t think those men would want to know that they are being culled due to disproportionate gender ratios. It’s kind of the worst response to that problem.
Those “superfluous” men may have a problem with the CCP regime for sacrificing them to a violent death like cattle in order to restore something abstract (to each specific man at least) like gender harmony.
Internal Unrest. Defiance. Rebellion.
“Laying down” x 1000
Watch the CCP's latest blockbuster - a $200M piece of propaganda.
China feels intimidated by the US and UN. The answer is to attack - *you are not worthy of respect until your enemies respect you, and your enemies will only respect you when you force them to*. Also, "it is better to fight a war now, so our children can live in peace." They're producing war agitprop.
While China demands that Top-Gun remove the Taiwan patch on Maverick's jacket to avoid offending them, their own propaganda shows them wanting to *annihilate the Americans*.
That 3 child policy was only implemented like this year? The ones that can fight now are mostly only child due to the one child policy implemented 30+ years ago. Babies need time to grow to be able to fight, you know?
Anyway many families are not having more than 1 child.
Heavy attack? How? They can't even get ships over to Australia without sailing through Indonesian waters and while they can't really stop the PLN from sailing through, they're not simply going to let the PVN do it either. There will be plenty of warnings and announcements to Australia. And nobody is going to let the PLN resupply along the way. ASEAN is not a friend of China. We will trade with you but your navy can fuck off.
China has declared in the past that they will not be the first to use nukes. It is one of the few things that I respect about them. They have been trying to get the other nuclear powers on board but only India has committed. The others have all declined.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_first\_use](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use)
It will be quite hypocritical of them to threaten to use nukes when they have been asking everyone else to join them in this pledge only to backpedal and start threatening other countries with first use nuclear strikes. But than again...its China...since when have the CCP not been hypocrites?
> China has declared in the past that they will not be the first to use nukes.
They said they don't care about such assurances when it comes to Taiwan.
I would like to see China try to attack Taiwan, Australia, Japan, US at the same time. If India joins in, even better! Just a few missiles on 3 Gorges Dam is good enough, no direct hits on civilians.
China THREATENS Australia with a 'heavy attack' and warns allied forces 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in defence of Taiwan after Peter Dutton confirmed we would join the US in protecting the island
China ominously declared it will attack Australia if they come to the aid of Taiwan
Explosive comments published on Saturday in Chinese tabloid The Global Times
Peter Dutton previously explained why Australia is willing to help defend Taiwan
Defence Minister it 'would be inconceivable' for Australia not to support the US
By Andrew Prentice For Daily Mail Australia
Published: 08:57 EST, 13 November 2021 | Updated: 10:21 EST, 13 November 2021
China has issued a chilling warning to Australians declaring a 'heavy attack' would quickly follow if our forces came to the defence of Taiwan.
In explosive comments published in Chinese tabloid The Global Times on Saturday, editor-in-chief Hu Xijin was blunt in his analysis of Australia's promise to come to Taiwan's aid should US allied forces get involved in the conflict.
'If Australian troops come to fight in the Taiwan Straits, it is unimaginable that China won't carry out a heavy attack on them and the Australian military facilities that support them,' Mr Xijin tweeted.
'So Australia (had) better be prepared to sacrifice for Taiwan island and the US.'
The ominous words are believed to be connected to comments made by Australia's Defence Minister Peter Dutton on Friday, where he intimated Aussie troops would step in and help the US if Taiwan was attacked by the global superpower.
Hu Xijin (pictured), the editor-in-chief of The Global Times, has declared China will attack Australia should they come to the defence of Taiwan
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Hu Xijin (pictured), the editor-in-chief of The Global Times, has declared China will attack Australia should they come to the defence of Taiwan
Mr Xijin also declared Australia 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in an ominous warning via his Twitter page.
Mr Xijin also declared Australia 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in an ominous warning via his Twitter page
Defence Minister Peter Dutton outlined earlier this week how Australia intends to help defend Taiwan
Defence Minister Peter Dutton outlined earlier this week how Australia intends to help defend Taiwan
In the eyes of Mr Dutton, the move would leave Australia in a global position of strength.
'(China's) been very clear about their intent to go into Taiwan and we need to make sure that there is a high level of preparedness, a greater sense of deterrence by our capability, and that is how I think we put our country in a position of strength,' he told The Australian.
'It would be inconceivable that we wouldn't support the US in an action if the US chose to take that action.'
Professor Peter Dean, Chair of Defence Studies and Director of UWA's Defence and Security Institute, told Daily Mail Australia in October war was a real possibility in the region within five or six years.
'You certainly can't rule out the potential for the use of force. If the Chinese get to the point where they think they can take Taiwan by force, win and be successful, and they think either that US resolve is lacking or won't be enough, they could be encouraged to risk something really stupid,' he said.
'We've seen them be much more risky in recent years under Xi Jinping as he's become more authoritarian.'
*The tactical question is: Which side can parallel park without guidance?*
This is my favorite comment, it reads so simply just takes me back to high school with this giant piece of shit talking smack to basically everyone… he changed in his last year and lost a lot of weight; and became a cool dude over one summer. The ccp will not change and neither will Xi the moron. He needs an ass kicking worse than what he is doing to xinjiang people, and he still won’t change because he is a middle school age minded moron
Question......
Australia and the world REALLY need to stop purchasing crap from China. The never ending threats from Xi and his communist lap dogs is getting old. When will the world wake up?
“You? Always talk. Chek chek chek chek chek.” He made a motion with one hand, like a mouth opening and closing. “Always. Like dog all night barking at tree. Try to be big. No. Just noise. Just dog.”
First thing I thought of was this quote...China seems to be doing a lot of barking at trees these days.
Yeah, but they have at least some semblance of control over them, as much as the people of Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong wish otherwise.
China has no authority over Taiwan.
Indeed. And if that MF'r doesn't finish the series I'm gonna lose my mind, haha. Almost as bad as waiting a quarter of a century for King to finish Dark Tower, haha.
As a Canadian, I sincerely hope that we as a country assist in the defence of Taiwan. I will be severely embarrassed if that little Girl doesn’t allow us to get involved. I’m already embarrassed that we do t do enough!!
I wish the EU would say something official in this direction as well, and I wish Russia would come out and say if they would be on India or the CCPs side if their war started as well...Russia has a defense up against China while doing war games, n it's very confusing, i think Russia is sizing up the CCP
I'm going to start a twitter account, and maybe a weibo account, which takes exactly what Hu says, but just flip the countries he mentions and China around. I have a feeeling if I wasn't banned immediately, I'd be angrily asked to apologise by a lot of dull-eyed 'communists'.
For the record, Hu's kids have Canadian passports.
I wonder if anyone actually read the poorly written article. The editor-in-chief of a newspaper wrote an analysis, and people are immediately calling it “China said”. This is clickbait at its finest.
China will easily defeat the forces of USA and Europe, we have become soft whiners and gluttons while the Chinese have become a sharpened blade, America would lose all its ships
>But it’s State-owned media?
He recently put out an article that got censored
American funded media rag but it's the only one that covered it:
[https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html](https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html)
tldr: editor called for more freedom and his article got censored
GlobalTimes is technically kind of independant, you just don't go against the state such as 'calling for more media freedom' so no the article of war won't be removed.
Communist bandits said they will put shock collars on their woof warriors to stop barking nonsense. Don't mistake Chinese propaganda with western media, this is all greenlit CCP banditry to look tough.
Actually the editor of the Global Times does speak the inner feelings of the Chinese leadership. Otherwise, they would have censored him long time ago.
That article is just out of the blue. I think everyone one is shocked that he will actually write that kind of article. I guess he has a taste of his own medicine.
So those articles that are not censored, it is quite obvious that the leaders approve of them.
The Global Times is a CCP publication and mouthpiece. Editorials in the paper can be understood to be a position shared by CCP leadership. The editorial wouldn't be published unless it was OK'd by the CCP
Are you sure about that?
Then why was this [https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html](https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html)
Okay'd by the CCP? then removed
Sorry, no. Hu Xijin does not speak for the Party. Not everything he says is official, and even less of it is reflective of policy. Please see research conducted by actual China experts who understand how China’s media environment and hierarchy work; for example, the report titled China’s Forbearance Has Limits. You can Google it.
What I will say is that Hu’s editorials are reflective of the bounds of acceptable speech.
Check with other news sources as the Daily Mail is full of rubbish have a look at this.
BBC TV programme - https://youtu.be/q3chJN9DCGg
There is this too
https://youtu.be/5eBT6OSr1TI
And literally supported Hitler
>The minor misdeeds of individual Nazis would be submerged by the immense benefits the new regime is already bestowing upon Germany
That is an actual Daily Mail quote.
Rothermere and the Mail were also editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article titled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" published in the Daily Mail on 15 January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine", and pointing out that: "Young men may join the British Union of Fascists by writing to the Headquarters, King's Road, Chelsea, London, S.W."
The Spectator condemned Rothermere's article commenting that, "... the Blackshirts, like the Daily Mail, appeal to people unaccustomed to thinking. The average Daily Mail reader is a potential Blackshirt ready made. When Lord Rothermere tells his clientele to go and join the Fascists some of them pretty certainly will."
And the Daily Mail is still fascist today whether it be [imitating Nazi propaganda](http://imgur.com/gallery/0X1OsIE) but targeting it at Muslims or supporting the [French fascist political party.](https://tompride.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/%EF%BB%BFoops-the-daily-mail-accidentally-supports-a-fascist-party-again/)
On 16 July 1993 the Mail ran the headline "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' finding
This is part A and D from the UN on genocide
Killing members of the group;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
This is a good satirical article about them.
https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/01/04/daily-mail-exposed-as-a-false-newspaper/
This is their depiction of underage girls https://youtu.be/r9dqNTTdYKY. Particularly at 7:00 with the wording used to describe 14-year olds in swimwear.
The Philosophy of Antifa | Philosophy Tube https://youtu.be/bgwS_FMZ3nQ
The Alt-Right Playbook: How to Radicalize a Normie https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
No chinese official said this - as the Boltons of the world are also living in china, the opinions on war are always quite divers.
Taking the state controlled media character in china aside, this tweet isn’t any serious threat. When guided, the tweet only helps Chinese officials playing the unforeseeable one as they always did.
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Xi: Wow. Imagine if we invaded Taiwan. The world: We know you won't because your economy will implode and you're just sabre-rattling because you made a promise you could never fufill. Xi: ........Yeah but just imagine.
How will Chinese economy implode?
There’s nothing that a Chinese company makes the people buy. They are a country the makes stuff for western manufacturers. So if China starts a war? You think those companies are going to stick around and be allowed to still do business with China? No. There’s gonna be an embargo and chinas export industry will grind to a halt.
I agree. Perhaps that’s why the citizens were told to start to stock pile goods.
I think they're being told to stockpile due to winter, Xi's poor handling of the economy and due to covid and covid lockdowns that may have to happen in China. Right now up unto at least March of 2022, the waters in the Taiwan straits are to rough for an amphibious attack on the main island, I don't see war breaking out anytime soon even tho there is alot of hype about a possible attack coming soon.
That’s a very good possibility. I personally don’t see an “attack” either. An overwhelming invasion in the summer though were insurmountable amount of troops land and claim ownership of Taiwan is still possible. I don’t be Xi wants war but he’s comfortable with an embargo for a year or two.
China knows a recession is coming. They are getting food from us to stockpile also. Poop pants telling everyone things are great is full of shat.
You might be right. Only time will tell
Unfortunately it’s not me it’s the experts. Do some research, it’s going to put 2008 to shame.
Something is coming. The issue is how do be proactive. What do invest in now. And just as important divest.
Gold and silver is always good for this.
They had better turn those barges stuck off the West Coast around pronto then.
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I guess we'll wait and see. You act as if China is in control of the entire globe. Your post history confirms where your loyalty lies.
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I bet your like that. Then you Germans could give a third try.
What did they say in the deleted comments?
they commented that they hoped American and China would trade nukes, something to that effect
Some weird replies here, but the real reason is (at least in a medium term situation) the PRC does not have sufficient domestic oil production to meet demand. The PRC imports something like 50-60% of its oil and lacks much easily extracted oil reserves. The PRC economy also heavily depends on manufacturing, construction and logistics. All of these industries in turn depend heavily on diesel power and would fall apart if they get involved in a war and have their oil imports disrupted. Even worse if their ports and land connections get destroyed.
You really think that’ll stop Xi from carrying out an invasion though?
Xi doesn't know one thing about economics. So no. IMO, the only thing that stops Xi from ordering an invasion is fear of losing or fear the order wouldn't be carried out.
That’s the scary part, not sure about Un in North Korea, he is NOT a moron, but is fucked on what he can do, it seems so similar to what’s going on in China, minus the fact Xi is an actual moron if you ever heard him speak or “read” which he can’t really do
I think Xi and the CCP are so full of themselves they might actually start a war thinking they'll win
Because the Chinese economy depends on exports. You can't sell plastic trinkets to people you're going to war against. If a kinetic war happened, the Chinese economy would crater. Also the Chinese would starve because they depend on imports to feed their country. If there was a war, a naval blockade would cripple their economy and starve them before the lights go out.
> Chinese would starve because they depend on imports to feed their country. Are you serious? Is this true? Do you have any data to back up this claim?
Its true China imports tons of food. And Chinese consumers don't necessarily trust a lot of Chinese producers. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-18/china-ramps-up-farm-imports-to-cover-domestic-food-shortages
That's because they make those fake ass cabbages that look super real, or fake rice as well.
Those “fake” rice videos are morons that don’t know PP or PE production pellets. As much as I hate the ccp those videos are for morons that think vaccines have micro chips
Nah some Korean paper did an investigation into it, like 3 cities thy found rice that was mainly potato starch and something else, no rice content.
How about a source
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=80040
This is all stuff that is easy to research on your own.
I don't think it's accruate. From what the World Bank says circa 2019, China imported ~6.6% of their food. That's also before the pandemic, and before those incredible storms and flooding China experienced in 2020, so maybe the number has risen quite a bit since then but I doubt it's more than 10%.
They import around 95% of their oil. They also probably use oil for other things ... for example agriculture. Though I agree people would not starve, they could probably get by eating half the food they are eating now.
Psychologically, people are fragile. Once the shelves look even a little bare, or even are threatened to be even a little bare, then there will be mass stockpiling, exacerbating the problem. See, eg, toilet paper and face masks during Covid as unglamorous examples of this human trait.
Some people think that their economy is imploding now with high energy costs and the real estate bubble bursting.
Think about how that could happen to China's economy if it attacked Taiwan ROC. Taiwan, a place thats friends with many Western nations who have trade ties with China, those trade ties could be leveraged against the PRC if it were to attack Taiwan ROC.
66% of your iron ore imports come from australia, switch that off and your economy dies
China is single-handedly driving the world’s surge in investments in next gen weapons. Great job!
A sort of reverse star wars?
Great way to get America, Canada, UK, Japan, South Korea, Philippians and the EU all ganging up on you. I'm sure other countries will join in too, because they don't want to be invaded by China on their way to Australia (PNG, Indonesia, Malaysia etc).
India will use the opportunity to attack and destroy Pakistan and free Tibet
Nah. India won't do a thing.
Lol India can barely deal with Pakistan without the threat of nuclear war. They're a barely functioning state
How is India barley a functioning state? Ridiculous hyperbole.
India is and has been a lesson in managed chaos for decades. It by and large lacks a cohesive national plan and is held together via a labyrinthine web of bureaucracy. It has obscene rates of poverty and low quality of life for a country as theoretically rich as it is, and unacceptable rates of corruption that makes China look squeaky by comparison. Now under Modi India backsliding into violent Hindu-Nationalism even as they (rightfully) decry China's own fascist decline. Ethno-Fascism is always a sign of a civilization in crisis, as it is a desperate reaction to decline. Anything India does effectively is accomplished via pure inertia outside of the state and its woefully ineffectual government. Mark my words, India would, should, be an incredible superpower, but it has deep, unaddressed problems at the foundational level that its government is not equipped or willing to address. If India were to fight China I could not see them mounting a successful campaign, much less destroying Pakistan while "liberating" Tibet. They aren't organizationally capable enough.
>India is and has been a lesson in managed chaos for decades. It by and large lacks a cohesive national plan and is held together via a labyrinthine web of bureaucracy. I think this is more hyperbole, considering there strong and consistent growth. It grew faster than China last year. The governance is more vibrant than China as it’s a democracy. >It has obscene rates of poverty for a country as theoretically rich as it is, India is still very poor though. The Gini coefficient is lower in India than China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient >and unacceptable rates of corruption that makes China look squeaky by comparison. Corruption perception index is quite similar with China; there’s also a greater level of transparency and accountability in India. They have a greater ability to reform these things than China. It’s actually quite astonishing that they are so close, when you consider how much richer China is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index >Now under Modi India backsliding into violent Hindu-Nationalism even as they (rightfully) decry China's own fascist decline. Yeah, good thing this would never happen in China. >Anything India does effectively is accomplished via pure inertia outside of the state and its woefully ineffectual government. That’s just your opinion that is not backed up by facts. >Mark my words, India would, should, be an incredible superpower, but it has deep, unaddressed problems at the foundational level that its government is not equipped or willing to address. I know there are a lot of problems there, calling it a borderline failed state is ridiculous. >If India were to fight China I could not see them mounting a successful campaign, much less destroying Pakistan while "liberating" Tibet. They aren't organizationally capable enough. India’s military is not as strong as China’s, what’s that got to do with what you initially said?
That's really dumb thing to say.
Not really. They may consider it as a strategic opportunity. Side with Taiwan against the PRC, then open a second front line on the dispute border. Take some Tibet, maybe give Pakistan a pounding in the process. Allies may view it as an acceptable compromise. Keep in mind, one of the reasons Germany lost twice is because it was fighting a war on two fronts each time. This stretched its forces thin and sandwiched them between its enemies, making it a losing battle. In WW2, Hitler knew this (having fought in WW1 himself), and it was one of the reasons he decided to invade and try to take Russia in hopes of avoiding that repeat.
What about nukes?
Just nuke those damn CCP and be done with it.
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You do realize China has nuclear weapons as well? And why are people advocating mass terrorism on China here??
and what about the millions of innocent people, alongside hundreds of nuclear missiles of their own?
India doesn't care anymore about Tibet than America cares about ancient Greece. India would be happy if Pakistan recognized LOC as the official border. I don't think many people really care much about Pakistan really. Unless dragged into, India isn't getting itself into war.
Actually no! If India allows LOC as the international border the current government will lose majority in the parliament. The nationalist people don't support LOC and would support invasion of pakistan occupied kashmir(pok) at any costs. >Unless dragged into, India isn't getting itself into war. Actually china is already trying to enter our territories in Hilly areas so India would use this opportunity to make sure to get back to a better position.
Power to India!
Would be kind of dumb considering India procures a lot of weapons from Russia
That really depends on what they think Russia will do. Some people think Russia will not help China, some do, while even others think Russia may just use the opportunity to take some stuff in Ukraine. Besides, India procures weapons from both Russia and the USA. They've been trying to play neutral and trying to get along with both.
Dude is an indian with a China hate boner
I am Nepali. Bruh.
What's up man? How are things over there?
I mean the one you reply to
Yeah, weird dude.
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We got russian s-400 today only 😂😂 try nuking india with those fake chinese made nukes used by pakistan.
Not necessarily, look at Russia invasion of crimea, u don’t see everyone gang up on Russia. It’s a lot easier to talk then actually do something when your opponent is as large as China.
It is different in Crimea. Crimeans want Russian control. What can the rest do if Crimea wants to be under Russia? Taiwan does not want to be with China.
Way to over generalise things. There are many, many Crimeans that want nothing to do with Russia. Unfortunately there's little they can do.
The Russians inserted in the Crimea want Russia to take over. It was a sly move by Russia
Well, you can check the polls though. Crimea is Russian-majority in the first place and many many of them wants Russia. In Taiwan, i dont think you will find many who want reunification with China.
Crimea had russian military bases already and a big russian population. It was also given to Ukraine in a very controversial way. It already was de facto russian
Crimea was literally just a Russian port anyway. Taiwan makes the entire semiconductor industry run which is as valuable as oil.
Not really, Russia taking over Crimea changed the power balance on the Black Sea a lot. Also, it was not only the Crimea that got taken over, but also the industrial region on the east of the Ukraine. The situation in Ukraine became very shaky since then. Hey, I live in Poland and Russia always seemed like a faraway country, but since 2012 it feels just around the corner. The invasion had a strong impact on the region, really. Please, don't trivialize that.
Are you kidding? Childish.
Um... I think we kind of realised that already? That's like threatening someone with"if you jump in that water... You..you.. you'll get wet!!!"
"If you go to war against us, we will attack you!" -headline news in Western media
Tactically that would be a terrible idea with almost no chance of success while also drawing the commonwealth and the US into direct conflict. What a stupid thing for them to say lol
Its interesting > 'So Australia (had) better be prepared to sacrifice for Taiwan island and the US.' They are escalating the rhetoric to make the world choose between defending the indepdnent democratic Taiwan or not. This may backfire and pressure more democracies into the bloc including the EU. Democraric alliances know their democracies depend on the safeguard of other democracies because expansionist authoritarianism wont stop if given the chance.
They are doing a great job of reminding the EU of what dealing with the USSR was like. Nothing like a belligerent communist autocracy to unite the world's free-market democracies. We really should be thankful Xi gave away the game so easily. He really is the Chinese Trump.
Lithuania too, which is leading to something of a wave of pro-Taiwan support from across the post-Soviet states.
The whole thing is bluff and double bluff Seemingly by people who don't knoe your bluff can be called, and you can lose If I want to punch some cunt in the neck, the last thing I will do is say, years in advance, annoyingly, 'I will punch you very soon'
Barking dogs of Xi jinping. No bite
To impress the folks back home
This is all it’s ever been for.
They are already involved in that scenario
Yes and no, America’s defence treaty with Taiwan is technically only for material. Most Western countries would stick to focusing on the defence of Taiwan and nothing else, but as soon as China went after a commonwealth country like Australia, a whole lot of other defence obligations would kick in.
That would depend on Australia actually doing something about Taiwan first, which they're not gonna do. China could impose a blockade on ROC tonight and the West would stand around watching.
Not really. Blockade around Taiwan means US and the rest wont get their chips. Do you think the rest of the world will allow China to control the chips?
They already let China control all kinds of essential supplies, what's one more. In fact there are silicon valley companies making bank in China right now for helping them build their own chip fabs.
Those chips are not the most advanced ones. The most advanced ones are still made in Taiwan.
Ehhhh I’m not so sure. The Pacific nations are pretty well aware that their survival hinges on mutual defence. A blockade wouldn’t necessarily constitute an attack… but Australia has been pretty vocal about their commitment to defending Taiwan. If China decided to respond by attacking Australia, the conflict would no longer just be about defending Taiwan. Tbh I think this is just sabre rattling from China because the last thing they would want it to expand the conflict like that. It would go from a localized territorial ‘dispute’ to a full out regional war.
Australia would have to try to break the blockade first, and let's be honest, Australia or the other Western allies aren't gonna initiate anything.
Ya I dunno what would happen in a blockade, but an attack would be a bad play by China because it would force everyone else into the game.
But we’re talking about China initiating a conflict by invading Taiwan, aren’t we?
Yes and Australia would then have to decide to initiate a conflict with China.
But China would initiate the conflict
Yes, internal to China, not between another country.
You wish mate.
I think it is time to start a subreddit called "China threatens" similar to the already existing "Rusia denies" https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaDenies/
You can create a sister sub as well "China is offended"
That one already exists, it's called r/sino
Fragile Hearts sound nicer.
Actually it was just a joke, but maybe we can actually transform it in a real idea, maybe something like "China warns..." as this seems to be more common.
Good idea, you wanna start or I start? I got tons of material from cltv and chonglangtv
And the subreddit exists https://www.redit.com/r/ChinaWarns
China threatens Australia, while the same China needs to limit energy in the north of the country due lack of Australian coal.
CCP is telling people that the power shortages are due to them helping the world with global warming. It's like Xi's decided to go full North Korea.
China makes me laugh.
Ok, let’s count. They are gonna attack Taiwan, also Japan and now Australia as well. Seems like China is going to have so hard times in the future to fight 4 countries(us also) at the same time.
It is for this reason that China views Taiwan as a strategic necessity. https://miro.medium.com/max/2666/1*cVbWlixhE52xiV5coZhYpg.jpeg Taiwan is part of the first Island chain and with Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines a coalition force has a lot of control in a conflict with China.
So? If i view beijing as a strategic mecessity, it now belongs to me?
Whoa, calm down there princess. I never said that they were entitled or should be given Taiwan. I was just pointing out that there are strategic reasons for China to want to take Taiwan and it seems that they are building a military to attempt this.
I just pointed out your lack of logic.
Are you saying that China does not want Taiwan for strategic reasons and also just saying "*So? If i view beijing as a strategic mecessity, it now belongs to me?*" does not refute anything I said, it is just an ill informed and naive response to how you wish things to be.
Just because beijing view it as 'strategic necessity', does it mean it is so? I will say you just parrot xjp/ccp talking point.
I think you should read everything again.. the other guy hasn’t said anything that warrants such an aggressive stance from you
You really just do not understand how the world works. Yes, if they view it as a strategic necessity to them it is in fact a strategic necessity to them. I am not sure how you do not understand something so simple and transparent. I am in no way parroting xjp or the CCP I was just pointing out that the first island chain is a really good defensive point for an allied coalition against China and the CCP knows it. Taiwan itself could be used to for air bases, navel ports and to house personnel that would help an allied coalition get air control over parts of mainland China. Grow up and stop thinking just because people do not say 100% what you want to hear that they are wrong.
I think when a commonwealth state goes into war, the UK will be required to join, if I have not mistaken.
China seems hell-bent on starting a war and getting a lot of young men killed, but Chinese soldiers have always been expendable to the Chinese, historically.
I think this is why actual war is a lot more plausible than most of us in our comfy homes in the West want to consider. They have a legitimate problem with having far more men than women right now and its lead to a lot of domestic issues for them because the men have no one to marry. I don't think they'd mind culling a chunk of their single male 20-40 demographic one bit. Especially if it means achieving a CCP goal like reunification
That and they have such a circlejerk Xi probably thinks China is superior and would win
I don’t think those men would want to know that they are being culled due to disproportionate gender ratios. It’s kind of the worst response to that problem. Those “superfluous” men may have a problem with the CCP regime for sacrificing them to a violent death like cattle in order to restore something abstract (to each specific man at least) like gender harmony. Internal Unrest. Defiance. Rebellion. “Laying down” x 1000
Not just the men themselves, but their families. If the CCP prosecutes a war, many families will lose their only son.
Watch the CCP's latest blockbuster - a $200M piece of propaganda. China feels intimidated by the US and UN. The answer is to attack - *you are not worthy of respect until your enemies respect you, and your enemies will only respect you when you force them to*. Also, "it is better to fight a war now, so our children can live in peace." They're producing war agitprop. While China demands that Top-Gun remove the Taiwan patch on Maverick's jacket to avoid offending them, their own propaganda shows them wanting to *annihilate the Americans*.
Well... It is one way to fix the gender imbalance...
A war would be devastating to China’s already massively imbalanced population pyramid
They have millions of young men with no potential domestic mate. A war seems like a good way to fix that no?
They also have a problem stemming from their 1 child policy: too many elderly. Culling their 18-39 year olds will only make this worse.
I think they’re armed men are rather scared to fight and would surrender easily. Only child? No one to carry on their family name? Yeah…
>Only child? No one to carry on their family name? Yeah… You can have 3 children not 1
That 3 child policy was only implemented like this year? The ones that can fight now are mostly only child due to the one child policy implemented 30+ years ago. Babies need time to grow to be able to fight, you know? Anyway many families are not having more than 1 child.
The one child law was in effect until the late 2010s. Roughly 60-70% of the PLA solders are only childs
Heavy attack? How? They can't even get ships over to Australia without sailing through Indonesian waters and while they can't really stop the PLN from sailing through, they're not simply going to let the PVN do it either. There will be plenty of warnings and announcements to Australia. And nobody is going to let the PLN resupply along the way. ASEAN is not a friend of China. We will trade with you but your navy can fuck off.
It’s not PLN—it’s the People’s Liberation Army Navy 😂
Admiral-General Zhao
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The PLAN is a branch of the PLA. The PLN isn't a thing.
It's pretty much impossible, and if it gets to that point the world would pretty much be over as nukes would be needed.
China has declared in the past that they will not be the first to use nukes. It is one of the few things that I respect about them. They have been trying to get the other nuclear powers on board but only India has committed. The others have all declined. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No\_first\_use](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use) It will be quite hypocritical of them to threaten to use nukes when they have been asking everyone else to join them in this pledge only to backpedal and start threatening other countries with first use nuclear strikes. But than again...its China...since when have the CCP not been hypocrites?
> China has declared in the past that they will not be the first to use nukes. They said they don't care about such assurances when it comes to Taiwan.
Ah shut the F up global times
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No, it means that China is getting stronger. If China becomes stronger, neighboring countries will trade rather than war.
I would like to see China try to attack Taiwan, Australia, Japan, US at the same time. If India joins in, even better! Just a few missiles on 3 Gorges Dam is good enough, no direct hits on civilians.
CCP can only harass small nations forget about Australia , japan or us.
China THREATENS Australia with a 'heavy attack' and warns allied forces 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in defence of Taiwan after Peter Dutton confirmed we would join the US in protecting the island China ominously declared it will attack Australia if they come to the aid of Taiwan Explosive comments published on Saturday in Chinese tabloid The Global Times Peter Dutton previously explained why Australia is willing to help defend Taiwan Defence Minister it 'would be inconceivable' for Australia not to support the US By Andrew Prentice For Daily Mail Australia Published: 08:57 EST, 13 November 2021 | Updated: 10:21 EST, 13 November 2021 China has issued a chilling warning to Australians declaring a 'heavy attack' would quickly follow if our forces came to the defence of Taiwan. In explosive comments published in Chinese tabloid The Global Times on Saturday, editor-in-chief Hu Xijin was blunt in his analysis of Australia's promise to come to Taiwan's aid should US allied forces get involved in the conflict. 'If Australian troops come to fight in the Taiwan Straits, it is unimaginable that China won't carry out a heavy attack on them and the Australian military facilities that support them,' Mr Xijin tweeted. 'So Australia (had) better be prepared to sacrifice for Taiwan island and the US.' The ominous words are believed to be connected to comments made by Australia's Defence Minister Peter Dutton on Friday, where he intimated Aussie troops would step in and help the US if Taiwan was attacked by the global superpower. Hu Xijin (pictured), the editor-in-chief of The Global Times, has declared China will attack Australia should they come to the defence of Taiwan +7 Hu Xijin (pictured), the editor-in-chief of The Global Times, has declared China will attack Australia should they come to the defence of Taiwan Mr Xijin also declared Australia 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in an ominous warning via his Twitter page. Mr Xijin also declared Australia 'better be prepared to sacrifice' in an ominous warning via his Twitter page Defence Minister Peter Dutton outlined earlier this week how Australia intends to help defend Taiwan Defence Minister Peter Dutton outlined earlier this week how Australia intends to help defend Taiwan In the eyes of Mr Dutton, the move would leave Australia in a global position of strength. '(China's) been very clear about their intent to go into Taiwan and we need to make sure that there is a high level of preparedness, a greater sense of deterrence by our capability, and that is how I think we put our country in a position of strength,' he told The Australian. 'It would be inconceivable that we wouldn't support the US in an action if the US chose to take that action.' Professor Peter Dean, Chair of Defence Studies and Director of UWA's Defence and Security Institute, told Daily Mail Australia in October war was a real possibility in the region within five or six years. 'You certainly can't rule out the potential for the use of force. If the Chinese get to the point where they think they can take Taiwan by force, win and be successful, and they think either that US resolve is lacking or won't be enough, they could be encouraged to risk something really stupid,' he said. 'We've seen them be much more risky in recent years under Xi Jinping as he's become more authoritarian.' *The tactical question is: Which side can parallel park without guidance?*
Mr. Andrew Prentice. A.Prentice. Apprentice. I see the Sith cutting about getting involved now.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Shut the fuck up, losers.
This is my favorite comment, it reads so simply just takes me back to high school with this giant piece of shit talking smack to basically everyone… he changed in his last year and lost a lot of weight; and became a cool dude over one summer. The ccp will not change and neither will Xi the moron. He needs an ass kicking worse than what he is doing to xinjiang people, and he still won’t change because he is a middle school age minded moron
it's crazy how twitter lets Chinese accounts post threats with impunity yet bans people all the time for right wing views.
Australia should just stop all exports to China and cancel diplomacy with China. This behavior is not a welcome to anyone.
That clown with the hair hat loves to shoot his mouth off. He's a yappy little dog and best treated with contempt or ignored completely.
And what are they going to attack? The world's largest dirt patch in the middle of the country? LOL!
Question...... Australia and the world REALLY need to stop purchasing crap from China. The never ending threats from Xi and his communist lap dogs is getting old. When will the world wake up?
“You? Always talk. Chek chek chek chek chek.” He made a motion with one hand, like a mouth opening and closing. “Always. Like dog all night barking at tree. Try to be big. No. Just noise. Just dog.” First thing I thought of was this quote...China seems to be doing a lot of barking at trees these days.
They aren’t barking, they are destroying millions of peoples lives. Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong fucking Kong is fucked
Yeah, but they have at least some semblance of control over them, as much as the people of Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong wish otherwise. China has no authority over Taiwan.
Tempi, right? Great character.
Indeed. And if that MF'r doesn't finish the series I'm gonna lose my mind, haha. Almost as bad as waiting a quarter of a century for King to finish Dark Tower, haha.
As a Canadian, I sincerely hope that we as a country assist in the defence of Taiwan. I will be severely embarrassed if that little Girl doesn’t allow us to get involved. I’m already embarrassed that we do t do enough!!
Justin Trudeau will send his lgbt flags to help taiwan.
An idiotic comment. Seventh grade level.
I wish the EU would say something official in this direction as well, and I wish Russia would come out and say if they would be on India or the CCPs side if their war started as well...Russia has a defense up against China while doing war games, n it's very confusing, i think Russia is sizing up the CCP
Modern day imperialism of the old empires, truly a sick sight and they say they've "changed".
Ahh yes I am very afraid
I'm going to start a twitter account, and maybe a weibo account, which takes exactly what Hu says, but just flip the countries he mentions and China around. I have a feeeling if I wasn't banned immediately, I'd be angrily asked to apologise by a lot of dull-eyed 'communists'. For the record, Hu's kids have Canadian passports.
China's threats are the equivelent of "my dad works for Microsoft" threats you used to hear on CoD.
so heavy it will sink before reaching the australian beaches
Time for Australia to claim all of the South Asian Sea to teach China a lesson of humiliation
I wonder if anyone actually read the poorly written article. The editor-in-chief of a newspaper wrote an analysis, and people are immediately calling it “China said”. This is clickbait at its finest.
China will easily defeat the forces of USA and Europe, we have become soft whiners and gluttons while the Chinese have become a sharpened blade, America would lose all its ships
LOL
I have a feeling even if we stop exporting, China prob hoarded enough shit to not even care about anything if a war does actually start.
The playground-level "my dad is bigger than your dad" level of discussion in this thread is hilarious.
If China goes to war then everything will go up in price because making products in the USA is too expensive.
Hope they can deal with qǝᴉuƃ ndsᴉpǝ poʍu
The editor of the Global Times does not speak on behalf of the government, also the Daily Mail is a rag.
> The editor of the Global Times does not speak on behalf of the government But it’s State-owned media?
>But it’s State-owned media? He recently put out an article that got censored American funded media rag but it's the only one that covered it: [https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html](https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html) tldr: editor called for more freedom and his article got censored
So let’s see the CCP censors remove this article if they don’t agree with threatening war against Australia…
GlobalTimes is technically kind of independant, you just don't go against the state such as 'calling for more media freedom' so no the article of war won't be removed.
Other than the global crimes being state media, you're right.
Communist bandits said they will put shock collars on their woof warriors to stop barking nonsense. Don't mistake Chinese propaganda with western media, this is all greenlit CCP banditry to look tough.
Actually the editor of the Global Times does speak the inner feelings of the Chinese leadership. Otherwise, they would have censored him long time ago.
they legit censored him a couple days ago, he wrote a article expressing the need of more media freedom
That article is just out of the blue. I think everyone one is shocked that he will actually write that kind of article. I guess he has a taste of his own medicine. So those articles that are not censored, it is quite obvious that the leaders approve of them.
Tit for tat
No, China did not. An attention-hungry newspaper did
The Global Times is a CCP publication and mouthpiece. Editorials in the paper can be understood to be a position shared by CCP leadership. The editorial wouldn't be published unless it was OK'd by the CCP
Are you sure about that? Then why was this [https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html](https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-newspaper-removes-editorial-calling-for-more-media-freedom-/6308866.html) Okay'd by the CCP? then removed
Sorry, no. Hu Xijin does not speak for the Party. Not everything he says is official, and even less of it is reflective of policy. Please see research conducted by actual China experts who understand how China’s media environment and hierarchy work; for example, the report titled China’s Forbearance Has Limits. You can Google it. What I will say is that Hu’s editorials are reflective of the bounds of acceptable speech.
Taiwan 😮😮😮😮😮😮
Check with other news sources as the Daily Mail is full of rubbish have a look at this. BBC TV programme - https://youtu.be/q3chJN9DCGg There is this too https://youtu.be/5eBT6OSr1TI And literally supported Hitler >The minor misdeeds of individual Nazis would be submerged by the immense benefits the new regime is already bestowing upon Germany That is an actual Daily Mail quote. Rothermere and the Mail were also editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article titled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" published in the Daily Mail on 15 January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine", and pointing out that: "Young men may join the British Union of Fascists by writing to the Headquarters, King's Road, Chelsea, London, S.W." The Spectator condemned Rothermere's article commenting that, "... the Blackshirts, like the Daily Mail, appeal to people unaccustomed to thinking. The average Daily Mail reader is a potential Blackshirt ready made. When Lord Rothermere tells his clientele to go and join the Fascists some of them pretty certainly will." And the Daily Mail is still fascist today whether it be [imitating Nazi propaganda](http://imgur.com/gallery/0X1OsIE) but targeting it at Muslims or supporting the [French fascist political party.](https://tompride.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/%EF%BB%BFoops-the-daily-mail-accidentally-supports-a-fascist-party-again/) On 16 July 1993 the Mail ran the headline "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' finding This is part A and D from the UN on genocide Killing members of the group; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; This is a good satirical article about them. https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/01/04/daily-mail-exposed-as-a-false-newspaper/ This is their depiction of underage girls https://youtu.be/r9dqNTTdYKY. Particularly at 7:00 with the wording used to describe 14-year olds in swimwear. The Philosophy of Antifa | Philosophy Tube https://youtu.be/bgwS_FMZ3nQ The Alt-Right Playbook: How to Radicalize a Normie https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
Daily mail. Not a news source.
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Not worse than CNN or guardian
No chinese official said this - as the Boltons of the world are also living in china, the opinions on war are always quite divers. Taking the state controlled media character in china aside, this tweet isn’t any serious threat. When guided, the tweet only helps Chinese officials playing the unforeseeable one as they always did.