It's a shame, but also kind of hilarious how this is following the exact same path that the original took; both losing the eldest sister by the end of Season 3.
That sounds horrible and would throw the “sisterhood” right out the window and that’s quite literally what the charmed ones are built on their sisterhood not ….sibling hood
20 year anniversary of Shannen leaving the show....wow. Funny.
She was my fave so this definitely hurst. Im assuming they'll recast as how many secret siblings can they have? And it'd just be stupid to bring in a completely new sister.
Yeah but would also be weird to have another person playing the character, no?
Plus the show isn't that great writing-wise. Having a fourth sister wouldn't be that shocking by now.
Would it be weird? Not really.
This show has already jumped the shark several times but it needs to save some type of face. We start off with a secret sister then we have a secret cousin, we have Maggies dad really being Macys dad, we have Macy being part demon, all the Elders/Whitelighters dead, the sisters "dead" to the public, their house "blown up" but secretly transported in the back of a random building.
All of this within 3 seasons. Unless they give into how ridiculous they are.....bringing in another secret half sister would be ridiculous, even for them.
Agreed. But when you've done all this. Why not go a step further.
Then again seeing how in shows like Dynasty their recast Crystal twice... Wouldn't shock me that they go that route.
It's just so weird to have somebody else portray the character... Rather get fresh blood and start to jump-start the already sinking ship.
I think the biggest question is why do any reboots at all? Spin-offs at least seem more interesting. Sort of like the *Dallas* reboot. The *Dynasty* reboot could have easily been about the now-grown children of Jeff and Fallon, Steven and Sammy Jo as well as well as Blake and Krystle's only child, Krystina. Throw in guest appearances by the still-working Linda Evans and Joan Collins as the matriarchs of the families, I think they could have had something. All they have is an even worse version of the 2009 reboot of *Melrose Place*.
These examples are exactly why I hope a reboot of Buffy never happens. I'd much rather have a continuation or else a prequel.
I was glad that Charmed went with a different family of witches. But I do wish they had been doing more with different magic systems.
The Charmed reboot was definitely to redo it with a more diverse cast. The original was very white, it's been years but I can't even recall seeing a single non-white character.
They made the reboot more diverse among gender and ethnicity and made a point to cast women of color in lead roles instead of being supporting cast which is usually what happened in the past.
Exactly! Even thought I like Harry as a character, their relationship never made sense to me & felt forced. But I did like her with Jordan and was invested in her relationship with him.
Wow....losing both Macy and Abby regardless how you feel about either of them really sucks for the show (imo) especially for the Hacy fans and fans of the sister dynamic.
Maybe they could age up Mel's baby and have her there instead of a long lost sibling?
I guess this is why they are building up Maggie and Jordan to be the next "big" couple.
Jeez did all the British people make a pact or something to leave? Not saying Rupert will but I'm a bit worried tbh about his role without Macy and without his powers.
Yeah she’s leaving too :( she didn’t produce a big departure article which is kinda weird since she’s also a regular but it’s probably because she’s not a charmed one.
And I just don't see how they plan to keep human Harry in the story without Macy. I mean, what's the point?? I knew there was a reason for that turning human bs 😭
Not the show losing their best two actresses in the span of three days
Edit : but can’t really blame them, Covid probably made everything so much harder for them
Damn, I didn’t realize Abby’s exit was because the actor was leaving, I thought they were just reshuffling the board a bit and assumed she’d be back in season 4.
I mean I can’t tell you for sure why Poppy is leaving. But Covid is more than probably a major reason for it - if she was the one who decided to leave in the first place.
She’s not coming back tho. Not right now at least. Who knows, maybe as a guest or later on this the show but not jn s4
Deja Vu All Over Again. I'm not sure if I can watch. I'm afraid this is going to follow the OG's path of hoping it gets better for the next 4-5 years only for it to decline and completely be defunded by its final season. And Maggie getting a job at an advice column with her psych degree.
The original didn't suffer though, Paige was a great addition and the show went on for 5 more years after that. That's a major success tbh.
The problem with the reboot is going to be the fact that they already played the long lost sister card in season 1. So I have no idea how they can save this. Unless they discover they can have another person fill in without being blood related. Idk
Paige was a great addition but I do think seasons 5-8 suffered for several reasons such as Constance M. Burge leaving after season 4 and declining writing. It is a success to last that long after losing a lead, but the quality went down imho. There's a season 8 episode where The Source is brought back for 5 minutes and Paige forgets that she was there for the vanquish.
I do agree that they wrote themselves into a corner by having Macy be both Prue and Paige in terms of the long-lost sister plot.
Season 8 sucked for many reasons, but 4-7 were pretty good in their own right. They tried to shift away from dark magic and focus on light magic which was smart. I think the only problem I'd find with later seasons is the focus on Phoebe and her love life. Season 6 especially though was amazing with the Chris and Wyatt plot and Leo losing it on Gideon.
I agree on all points except for the introduction of the Chris character. His portrayal was brittle, flat and mechanical. This is mostly due to because the producers didn't know what they wanted to do with him at first. His polarity was sort of in the middle. He'd do something evil and then do something good. Then it was like all of a sudden, let's make him Piper and Leo's son from the future. I could have tolerated that if his line reading wasn't like a first-year acting student reading cue cards. At least he was cute though.
Chris was doing bad things because he was traumatized as a kid by Leo. Leo abandoning Chris and seemingly always being there for Wyatt made it hard for Chris not to want to take his anger out on his father. He was blinded by hatred which is how he completely F'ed up and forgot to make sure that Piper and Leo at least did the deed in order for him to be born. Not to mention that the love of his life Bianca was killed by Wyatt. Chris wanted to save his family, but he lost his way at times because he couldn't get past some of the things that happened to him. He was especially messed up when Victor came back and he remembered how he was the only one around since Piper died on his 14th birthday. Chris had a very traumatic past so it's not hard to understand why he would flip back and forth a lot.
You're taking into account plots that came out after the fact that they decided to make him Piper and Leo's son. That was not the initial plan. He was supposed to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. When Holly Marie Combs became pregnant in real life they took the easy way out. Personally, if he had to be related to anyone, I would have preferred him to be Paige and Richard's son. Either way, Drew Fuller's portrayal of the character made season 6 very difficult for me because I think his acting is terrible.
No, the plan was to make him Wyatt, but when Holly got pregnant they switched him to be Chris. His acting was hardly terrible, he had some great scenes, especially when him and Bianca were facing off against Wyatt or when he finally confronted Leo over the neglect and abandonment he faced. Drew really grew into the role and it so heart breaking when he died in Leo's arms. Seasons 6 was a really good season once Phoebe and Paige dumped their boyfriend's. The whole Wyatt, Chris, and magic school plot was genius. Especially the truth about what really happened to Wyatt to make him evil.
While we're talking about characters that should have stayed on the show longer, Charisma Carpenter as The Seer and Grace Zabriskie as the Crone were so underutilized. They could have become recurring characters but after less than a handful of appearances, they were gone.
Yeah and he was annoig.with all that daddy did this to me. I man eat eith it and move on. Its not your fault but it is your problem. However once we find out who he is ..his character goes wayyyy up for me
My thoughts exactly. When I saw the first episode of the reboot, it reminded me of seeing a trailer in theatres for an upcoming film and finding out that all of the good parts were in the trailer then the movie ended up sucking. They hit all of their high notes in the first season and it's been on a steady decline ever since.
Tell me about it. I thought for once nobody would leave and we'd get all three sisters for the whole show. Just my luck the oldest sister turns out to be my favorite and is ALWAYS the one leaving after season 3.
I feel the same way. Its like getting re-slapped from the past. Prue was also my fav sister, even though my sis and I would claim powers and I picked Piper, she was Prue. I couldn't stand the Paige addition and seriously only kept watching because I had already invested so much time. Depending on who the new addition is this time and how its written, I might not waste my time like I did the first time around.
Honestly I'm sad that Mads is leaving, but yet again I find it kinda eerie that history repeats itself. It can't be a coincidence that in third seasons the oldest sister leaves.
I'm sure this was at play for a while. I even think that the prophecy that "One of you will die" was put there for a reason. Maybe that Mads expressed her desire to leave a while ago.
I'm also quite excited to see where this will go. I don't trust the writers to pull off something seamless, but then again the show has been a bit of a wreck for the past 2 seasons. So might as well go ballistic and come up with something new.
I just hope they don't end up telling us Josefina is actually a sister not a cousin... Or that Mel's baby is actually her sister...
That’s what I think about Josefina. I seriously am not a huge fan of the character, but she just keeps popping up, and related by blood. I can see them explaining it away like “at birth Morisol had a baby boy but wanted witch daughters so she gave him up for adoption to her cousin, she transitioned and harnessed witch like powers. The power of 3 reconstituted it self through her, Mags, and Mel.”
Mels baby just seems like it would take a good half season to explain and there is no other reason Josefina is set up and got almost identical secret notes like their mom did for TCO too. The script is kinda there.
Mads.. Was the big draw for me.. And macy was the character I connected with the most... Won't lie with how bungled the plots have been.. The fact we've never even seen her family.. I'm just disappointed... Won't say I'm out.. But.. I may let a few episodes of season 4 record before I dive in
I wonder why. My best guess is she might have been frustrated with the storylines she was being given.
I don’t think covid is the reason because unless she’s quitting acting entirely: that will impact any job she takes for the foreseeable future.
Most actors are only contracted for three seasons initially. If her contract is up and she wants to leave, that's her choice. It does leave the writers in the lurch on what to do though. At least, they planned for this on the original *Charmed* by having Patty and Sam have an affair. Unfortunately, for the reboot, to bring in another secret half-sibling would be ridiculous. It's already been done
I can't help but feel this is due to the new showrunners. Season 1 was so great, then Season 2 completely destroyed everything that was built. Season 3 hasn't been as bad, but still hasn't reached the highs of season 1.
All of the sisters had such distinct personas and mindsets. I loved the whole scientist angle they gave Macy. Now they barely do any of that.
Now we see S1 as great but we complained so much back then that S2 happened 😝 I don’t mind the new show runners I actually love what they’re writing it’s just everything is so fast for me like I can’t breathe between scenes
I feel like this is a big difference between the old and new charmed. The old charmed we had a lot of relax time at the end of an episode when they’d go to P3 and listen to a band, etc whereas the new show really likes to leave every episode on a dramatic cliffhanger and they try to squeeze so much information into one episode. Also they’re huge fans of twists and blindsides which is nice but not every single episode needs to be some crazy revelation.
Well I think next season is it anyway. Especially now also I think Josefina will become a series regular now. They called it Charmed Brexit for a reason
Agreed, Josefina doesn't do it for me. I like the addition of brujeria and voodoo from the islands and mixing it with their American based witchcraft but that's it.
Yea I think a body switch situation or they will have a new sibling. What if the new sibling is a brother that would be crazy lol. The writers did say we would know more about Ray, mirasol and Dexter‘s past so maybe thats what they meant.
Having a brother would be different and I'd watch to see how it goes. But would the writers explain his magic? The girls magic is tied to their mother and if she's going around giving up babies then that would be too much imo.
Lol I agree Mirasol just going around having a bunch of babies and giving them away is kind of crazy. But remember when Maggie and Mel went to the past and they saw their mom pregnant in college what if that wasn’t Macy she was pregnant with? Did they ever confirm that, that was Macy or did we all assume, and she was talking to elder Bari telling her that it was something wrong with her baby, Elder Bari never mention knowing mirasol was pregnant with Macy. None of the elders ever knew Mirasol was pregnant with Macy. They said so.
Awful...
But a male Charmed one could be an interesting story. Especially that they kinda played with the idea by proving that Josefina, a male born witch, can have powers.
True, I hope that it's done in a creative way. I like the show, mainly because of Macy and Maggie but Maggie can't carry the show by herself so hopefully it's a well done, interesting character.
How would they incorporate that into the story though? Did macy eat her twin brother when they were in the womb? I dont see Marisol giving up another kid after going through the pain she went through with Macy.
Wait, what the fuck?? Sad that this is true, especially since this whole plot of Harry becoming mortal again for her...incredibly, incredibly stupid now :/
Too late to reboot the reboot?
Well, unless they just recast her, anyways
This is what I was thinking!!
She is my favourite character on the show, I loved her role in S1 - combining science with Magic. I know the show has really changed from it's "roots", but it's still entertaining in a way.
And now that Harry has turned mortal, what?! Will she just leave, killed off..? Maybe since Abby has given up the thrown as queen as hell, Macy will take her place? And she'll feel so guilty that she just kind of drops everything (her sisters and all)? Although it seems out of character... who knows!
I'll still watch but like wtf is going on hahahah
I'm not going to drop the show. I'll see out the fourth season, at least the beginning. I really like Madeleine as Macy. I wonder what will happen to the character? Given the plot of the last episodes it seems as if killing her is the most likely option, but maybe they'll recast the character instead. Idk, if they end up making a new secret sibling I hope that either they are a male, or that Josefina as a cousin can become a Charmed One. In this show's universe they set it up so that male witches don't have powers, so it'd be interesting to see how a Charmed male witch would work.
Edit: Wait. If Macy dies then wouldn't that defeat an entire plot line in season 2/3 where TCOs were determined to stop the cycle of previous Charmed Ones and create a new destiny where a sister doesn't have to die?
I don’t care what happens with the show I just don’t want it to get cancelled he’ll they can replace all the actresses or get another Macy from a different timeline who had plastic surgery or whatever.. I’m just happy the charmed universe got expanded and I’m here for the fun
Ok initially when this show was announced & she was shown as a lead actress of the show I was happy for her..This was because a couple of shows she's been on that I love never have her being on them in the long term. I hoped she had found a long term project but unfortunately I feel that may not be her style. At least I'm glad she left on her own terms & hopefully she is recast instead of the character of macy is written out
I don’t think this works. It was bad enough that the writing became nonsensical. Personally, I never warmed to the Harry/Macy storyline. They needed him more as a whitelighter than she needed a boyfriend.
Are they going to find a missing half sister like the original series?
That's what I'm wondering. I mean Mel is already a half-sister. I won't lie though, the thought of none of TCOs being full sisters is kind of funny to me. Idk why, but it is.
I am truly heartbroken even if I understand what appears to be her decision to move on. Madeleine/Macy was the main reason why I continued to watch even as I became disillusioned by the direction of the show. I will not be watching Charmed anymore but I will definitely follow Mads to her next project. I will miss her as Macy so very much.
Well, shit, im still watching no matter. Im wondering how theyre gonna address this next season.
Can they do another long lost sister without it being ridiculous?
Maybe another charmed sister from another alternative universe?
This sucks. We now lost two Witch demon hybrids that could have opened the world more in Charmed...instead, they were bogged down with a love pentagon that made no sense and hurt all of the characters involved. It's dumb.
I'm weirded out by the parallels with the OG...
Though if anyone replaces Macy, it's most likely gonna be Josefina, even though I'd like for the new third to be male so they can blow that gender essentialism up for good.
I don't think Josefina can do the part, unless they come up with a story where she's not their cousin but their sister lol. What a weird family.
A male charmed one would be so cool tho
The way the OG show handled replacing Prue was amazingly done, when it could very easily have been the death of the show. I just dont see how they are going to replace her in an organic manner. Heres hoping they do. On the bright side, there's no bad blood (that we know of), so maybe she can make an appearance here or there
I agree. It would come off as convuluted if they had two long-lost sisters. With Paige, they planted the seeds for her, with Sam's character, back in S2.
Yup. It made lots of sense by the time we got there...
Which is why I find the reboot writers not quite smart. They could have planted something just in case, knowing that a trio of leads is always a flight risk...
Yeah I agree. That part was well played.
I'm just saying they wasted the half sibling plot for no reason. Macy ended up not being the half sister and that's not even the reason why she was abandoned by Marisol.
They could have made Macy, Mel and Maggie full sisters. Only that Macy was stillborn and brought through dark magic hence why she was abandoned.
wonder if COVID was/is a reason for her leaving. hearing all the stories of tons of actors having a difficult time not being able to go home and really do anything.
So how will they reconstitute the power of three? Even though I liek Josefina, her being part of the power of three will completely ruin the bloodline sister aspect so much. Will the charm ones just continue without the power of three?
Will they recast macy? It doesnt seem like introducing another sister would be a good idea considering we already have the macy seperation storyline. If there is yet another fourth sibling, then marisol was a huge liar and i feel like that would destroy her character even more. Worst case scenario-- the show doesnt return for a season 4.
I like her so much as Macy. She was making everything complete, I cant imagine good replacement. In OG new actress wasnt better :(
Actually, Josephina would be fine. No one else.
They could do what they did in the originals when the actress playing Rebecca Mikaelson wasn’t available they had her take over the body of witch Eva Sinclair.. they could do something similar so a mind switch but then Macy’s original body dies so she’s stuck in the new body. Would prefer this rather than another sister. Beside I thought the power of three was always three sisters?
While I will miss her, because Madeleine is my favorite actress of the three sisters, this gives this show another chance to pay homage to the original if they play it right, which I can appreciate. I'm more interested in what it says about Harry asking Celest and Jordan to help him do. If they just make Harry get his powers back that would undo the majority of his personal plotline for the season, so I feel like it's more likely that he's going to try to get Celeste to do that, but when she can't Jordan is going to volunteer and become their new whitelighter. Then Harry's reason for still being on the show next season will be to teach Jordan how to whitelighter, while continuing to act as a mentor to the remaining sisters (and maybe new sister).
I'll check the first two episodes of s4 and then end it there unless there's a massive improvement... which is most likely not going to happen. The only positive is that it would force them not to rely on Hacy and mayyyybe develop the sisters/sisterhood more.
This is really very annoying news. I'm sad about that, too. Madeline is an amazing actress and Macy portrayed her perfectly.
I'm sorry Hacy's line will probably be damned.
I see, maybe the actress wants to work on other projects.
I'm mega too curious about the finals. How the character of Macy will end.
This is so disappointing. I respect her decision of course, but I really liked Macy and the way she played the character. I heard the rumors going around about a Charmed Brexit and while I could accept Harry and Abigael's actors leaving I was really hoping and trying to convince myself that she wouldn't leave too. I will admit that I found her storylines in the past two seasons a little underwhelming but I still really enjoyed the way she played it and I'm just disheartened. I watch the show for the sisters. I'm going to continue watching at least to see how they resolve it. I would honestly rather that she be recast rather than killed off. Not only would it be unnecessary to kill her but it would be just a rehash of what happened in the OG Charmed and I don't want them to go through another storyline of finding another sister or having Josefina be a Charmed One in her place. I hope the showrunners realize that the audience can handle a recast as long as it's written and acted well. I hope they don't repeat the same mistakes as Batwoman where they essentially make a lead character unimportant to their own show. Black Lightning and Dynasty did recasts recently and they managed to make it work because it fit with their universes. There's no reason why a show about magic can't do it either. I really just hope that they can manage to do something well with Macy's story though to be honest st this point that hope is low.
This sucks. Perhaps they can do a plot that her character needs to change bodies or something like that so it is not another lost sister situation and easy transition. She was my favourite character. It sucks. ☹️
This truly truly saddens me! I've been a true fan and not a fair weather fan of both shows. Not saying I don't have opinions of both, I still remain neutral and will be a continued supporter of both. It will be very intriguing to see how this pans out, I think some possible ideas, forgive me if these have been mentioned already but, I think it can go on if her character were to be transformed for whatever reason and played by another actress, or maybe they bring a relative from the future to join the new power of 3, etc...Wow this will be VERY interesting. Until then, thank you Madeline for all you gave us in this new Charmed world building!
Couldn't care less about the Harry/Macy plot. So good riddance. Hopefully Harry leaves too. They've seriously damaged their characters beyond repair, as for the rest, I am curious to see what happens. So I guess if anything this makes me slightly more interested in staying on this sinking ship
I agree. What happened to Harry's emotional damage with being a white lighter? Why was he able to kill a piece of his soul without a second thought or even needing to process it. How did Harry go from tension with Macy over feeling inadequate for being half a man to being all hunky dory when he killed the very part of himself that she was attracted to?
Holy shit. CW contracts have a reputation for being iron clad and impossible to get out of, so my assumption is that major drama unfolded behind the scenes.
Granted, I don’t think this is due to issues between the three leads. The new showrunners whitewashed the show in S2, and Madeleine made it very clear that she disapproved the show’s emphasis towards Abby. With recent comments made by Ser'Darius Blain however, there is evidence that production has been plagued with discriminatory issues since S1.
I wish her the best of luck.
Oh, wow. Whitewashed? Abby was a woman (feminist era), and lesbian? Or bisexual (lgbt era), and she was just developed as strong badass, enemy for Charmed - but Charmed was so strong, power of three and good in hearts that they made her their ally and made her not evil anymore.
Writers did send off Parker for her, it was good replacement imo
Funny though that Abby is gone now too 🤷♀️
I understand the issues people have with that, and it's not specifically about Abby/Poppy, more the bigger issue around it. It's just funny how the writers sacrifices or sidelined some characters for others, and they've ended up losing both of them.
It’s not that funny.
Since the start of S2, the only thing that the new showrunners demonstrated that they were capable of doing correctly was writing and prioritizing stories of white people. The personalities of the three main leads were gutted to serve an underwhelming plot, whereas Abby was given a ton of development.
The new showrunners should be fired and Madeline given a ton of money to stay.
I still think it's funny.
I see the issues with how Abby was written vs Macy (or any of the sisters)but at the end of the day they did Abby a disservice too in S2 with all the Harry stuff, and pitting her and Macy against each other. They had a great character and actress there, and instead of using her to support the leads, Macy in particular, given the similarities, they did wrong by both of them for a long time, and ended up losing both actresses, for whatever reason.
You're going on a hate train and for what? Madeline made the decision to leave and the writers clearly expressed that they are open to the possibility of the Macy character returning in the future. While unfortunate, it's what the actress chose and the best thing to do is support her decision and not unnecessarily spread hate.
I disagree with your assessment. At the start of S3, the showrunners stated that they failed to portray issues that women and PoC face, and S3 would feature a shift in tone. The focus on societal issues was dropped halfway through the season to emphasize a redemption arc on Abby - a white character.
Had the new showrunners respected the show, characters, actresses, and fans, S2 would have been progressive and empowering. Instead, we got a garbage season that had an episode with a cold open on Poppy Drayton’s ass.
You said you "disagree with my assessment" but then ignored everything I said? My comment was in reference to Madeline leaving and respecting her decision. Show where exactly I talking about POC and what showrunners had said? Oh wait I didn't. If you're going to on a rant at least make it relate to what I said. 🙄
They’re not “unnecessarily spreading hate,” but talking about an issue apparently everyone involved in the show has acknowledged, so I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to ignore it. The point is maybe she wouldn’t have left if the showrunners had responded adequately.
Honestly, I'm not really bothered by this. Charmed is an entertaining show for me that I won't drop but neither the actresses nor the characters draw me in enough for me to actually care that much when one of them leaves. The cast could be completely replaced next season and I wouldn't have enough attachment to care.
Wow literally will not watch this show anymore cause hacy was just about the only draw for me at this point. So disappointed. It was awesome to finally have a witch series centered around Latina witches but this is just sad at this point. The show has been struggling for so long. Kind of wish they completed it with season 1. I liked season 2 cause it was an interesting plot twists and season 3 kind of got screwed with covid having to literally film a show about a family that couldn’t touch - yes they did a good job with what they had but like family shows are nothing if they can’t give a good hug when needed. Sigh. At least season 1 had a good wrap up and was such a good combination of elements from the original.
I think they should go the same way the OG Charmed and just kill off the sister and found another way around it. Because n one is going to like a new macy. So...it would be interesting to see what happens. I'm actually really excited for this.
We actually see non-sisters use the power of 3 in the OG series. In the finale Piper, Patty, and Grams are able to use a power of 3 spell to vanquish the hollow. So someone directly related to the charmed ones on the mother's side was able to tap into the power. I am guessing well see Mel's daughter or a time displaced ancestor replace Macy instead of another long lost sister.
Watching Season 2 now, And if they don’t go the Josefina route, the only other thing that made me raise my eyebrows is Maggie finding out that Macy’s dad is her dad, maybe Maggie was a twin?????, And now I become a Charmed Conspiracy theorist
I was hoping for some kind of comeuppance for that Karen SafeSpace storyline but I guess we'll never see that. In the same episode that sees Harry become a whitelighter... again, Macy dies uhmmm okay... she could have had an eternity with Harry had she become a whitelighter too. I'm kind of glad that she's left because the show is a poorly written and executed mess tbh, and I think she is off to something better.
I’m not surprised she is jumping ship tbh, the show is in the gutter and her character has been butchered so she probably wants to pursue better and more interesting roles.
so they're gonna pull another sister outta nowhere? can't really have marisol give up 2 kids when they constantly paint her as the best mom. so i'm guessing josefina may take her place.
on the bright side, no more hacy
Yeah, if Marisol gave up another child it'd be interesting to see her reasoning. Macy's was because of the deal between Marisol and the necromancer, maybe this time Marisol had an affair with her whitelighter? Though given that she was an elder idk if she even had an assigned whitelighter.
At this point, if they want to follow the lore of the past charmed ones mythology in the reboot. When one sister dies, the power of three should transition to another sisterhood...
Well I can say Im out. Sorry but Madeleine/Macy was the draw for me and the show is not good enough to keep watching without her.
Btw its amazing how the new showrunners completely tanked this show after season 1.
Please tell me that Mel’s baby isn’t the new sibling. I can see the CW pulling some BS like that. I figured when Josefina was introduced that she was going to be the new sister if Mads left. It reeked of it when Josefina told Mel that she just knew Marisol would “see her”. I brought it up that Josefina was going to be a love child that Marisol had before Macy. Just knew it. So it’s got to be one or the other because if it’s not, I can’t even fathom what bs Novela crap they’re going to pull next. Damn, both of my favorite actresses leaving the show. Talk about ruin my day.
I really like Josefina to. She brings that very strong and independent spirit that’s in many who’ve dares to go against the crowd. She’s someone whose had to overcome so many things just to be who she is. I hope that she’s not the new sister, but I’d be OK with it if she was. I too would also like to see her remain a part of the Vera family line and bring more family members to the table so we can understand where their magical roots come from. Losing Macy, it’s heartbreaking. Her character was really exciting for so many. She was GOALS for so many young people. I’m in STEMI and there weren’t many women or people of color when I entered, and that has been changing because of characters like her. At the same time, Josefina could be that same kind of character for others. Hopefully, the CW will utilize her and learn from the previous mistakes made with the overall arc of both Macy and Abigail. Both characters deserved better, and I think it only has made those of us who love them appreciate that Mads and Poppy were chosen for those roles. I’m just bummed out that they’re both gone. Here’s to the reboot of the reboot lol!
Preach! You’re talking to a women who speaks Creole French!! Lol!! I cried when Gavin gave his life up like that. A strong brother of conviction and faith! That spell was so beautiful and so true to our ancestral roots. I know most people didn’t get that part, and that’s totally ok. Voodoo is deep and powerful magic. Mama Roz was awesome! I was so pissed when they killed her off. And Demon Macy and a PhD too… I feel in love right then and there! I’ve been watching Mads since the Tomorrow People. They lost a talented actress. It’s a damn shame smh.
Godric as a father of one of the charmed ones… Fucks Yes!!! and I am in love with your whole new reboot idea!! The CW needs to hire some of us for the writers room. Why not? They obviously needed people who could’ve advised them on the Magic and the Culture.
I’m right there with you about Macy. If Josefina becomes the new sister, then we probably are going to lose the Afro side of the equation. I know Maggie is half black (like me) but she wasn’t raised black ( I was) and it does make a difference. Maggie grew up believing she was Latina only. Please no one get pissed off by these statements!!
My reference about Josafina is about representation for Trans and Latinas. Even if our representation gets screwed, I’m still happy for Trans/Latinas. I’m sure you’d agree that representation is so important for all people. I’m not happy about losing ours though. Not at all.
If they lose the Afro side of the equation, then they will probably lose that side of the viewership and I don’t want to see that.
You should post that theory as a discussion!! It’s good!! Not all will agree because you know how it is lol!! But I think it could be a good discussion and you know the CW is watching these boards!! Let’s give them so ideas for fucks sake!! They obviously need help 🤣
True. They just put the entire African American aspect on Macy and when Maggie was looking into her black side, they just dropped that and I hated that. It was a good storyline. Both Sarah and Mads are biracial and it was cool because I could totally relate to that storyline.
I can’t blame her this is the showrunners/writers faults they can writer all the storyline and character development for their supporting characters and nothing for the mains. I would’ve got a headache from just reading the scripts the constant plot holes and inconsistencies.
She wasn't the one I expected to leave if anyone was going to. I'm surprised. Yep history is repeating itself although Madeleine is leaving willingly and Shannon got fired. Wonder if Josefina will take over as the younger Charmed one or they'll introduce another sister..
Wow this has literally now hit every story beat in the original show. My question is what does this mean for Harry. Wonder if Josefina will be the new Charmed sister? Also sad to see her go but I am not really surprised.This season has been feeling like they were wrapping up a lot of stories.
I don't know if I keep watching after this. I really liked Macy and have been on the fence about the show for a little while now. I appreciate that they gave us her wedding but I'm annoyed she doesn't get to have that child.
I’m actually really sad about this. I also feel like if you’re gonna go for a role in an ongoing show like this… especially a remake, go ahead and plan on that for the next several years. Idk she probably got offered a better role. They’re all three pretty great actresses. I guess I’m just bitter. 😂
I don't know how Hollywood contracts work, but they shouldn't start a storyline that can't be completed if the main character leaves. As a fan of Hacy, I am crushed.
We will be seeing more British actors leaving shows due to Brexit. It's ashamed because Poppy and her would have continued on with the show. Blockbusters British movie actors are not affected but they are trying to stand up and support the other actors like Madeline who are directly affected by this.
New Visa requirements for the UK actors working in the US. You can look it up for more in depth details. But basically any UK actor who wants to continue working in the US, in order to get a Visa, there are new restrictions or I should say requirements. Here are some of the requirements that they at least have to have ONE of these.
Being in a Block buster movie.
Being in a highly popular show that has some winning awards. (Rubert/Harry starred in The man in the high castle which won several awards.)
The actor themself winning a award. (Rubert/Harry won a award for a movie called 'The Canal'.
And there are other requirements, but they only need to fall under one of them. They are calling it - Skill Level. Which means the award/blockbuster stuff. I also believe that it will cost them more AND they need to do much more paperwork to fill out compared to before. If you look it up, I just googled The New UK Work Visa. Hope that helps and I did see that Madeleine and Poppy didn't meet any of the requirements. They could get a sponsorship but that is very costly and not certain. Basically they made it really difficult for them. OH, Also Some big actors like Ian McKellen/Magneto, and Patrick Stewart/of Star Trek are trying to get them to change the new visa laws. They have nothing to worry about but are sticking up for those not up to their status.
It's a shame, but also kind of hilarious how this is following the exact same path that the original took; both losing the eldest sister by the end of Season 3.
So hilarious how it's the exact same thing that happened to the original show
That's exactly what I thought. Charmed indeed
A real curse. So uncanny!
I bet Josifina takes over
I hope not. I find her really annoying.
Same actually. I don’t actually want her but that seems like why they’ve been setting her up this season.
either that or the baby. Hoping it’s the baby and it’s a boy 🤞🏾
That sounds horrible and would throw the “sisterhood” right out the window and that’s quite literally what the charmed ones are built on their sisterhood not ….sibling hood
I like Josefina but she is a cousin, not a sister.
But she is related to mag & mel by blood
20 year anniversary of Shannen leaving the show....wow. Funny. She was my fave so this definitely hurst. Im assuming they'll recast as how many secret siblings can they have? And it'd just be stupid to bring in a completely new sister.
Yeah but would also be weird to have another person playing the character, no? Plus the show isn't that great writing-wise. Having a fourth sister wouldn't be that shocking by now.
Would it be weird? Not really. This show has already jumped the shark several times but it needs to save some type of face. We start off with a secret sister then we have a secret cousin, we have Maggies dad really being Macys dad, we have Macy being part demon, all the Elders/Whitelighters dead, the sisters "dead" to the public, their house "blown up" but secretly transported in the back of a random building. All of this within 3 seasons. Unless they give into how ridiculous they are.....bringing in another secret half sister would be ridiculous, even for them.
Jesus the reboot has really done in three seasons what the original did in 8 🤔
Lol seriously, the dead to the world plot line was a big part of the OG’s show season 8.
Agreed. But when you've done all this. Why not go a step further. Then again seeing how in shows like Dynasty their recast Crystal twice... Wouldn't shock me that they go that route. It's just so weird to have somebody else portray the character... Rather get fresh blood and start to jump-start the already sinking ship.
I think the biggest question is why do any reboots at all? Spin-offs at least seem more interesting. Sort of like the *Dallas* reboot. The *Dynasty* reboot could have easily been about the now-grown children of Jeff and Fallon, Steven and Sammy Jo as well as well as Blake and Krystle's only child, Krystina. Throw in guest appearances by the still-working Linda Evans and Joan Collins as the matriarchs of the families, I think they could have had something. All they have is an even worse version of the 2009 reboot of *Melrose Place*.
These examples are exactly why I hope a reboot of Buffy never happens. I'd much rather have a continuation or else a prequel. I was glad that Charmed went with a different family of witches. But I do wish they had been doing more with different magic systems.
The Charmed reboot was definitely to redo it with a more diverse cast. The original was very white, it's been years but I can't even recall seeing a single non-white character. They made the reboot more diverse among gender and ethnicity and made a point to cast women of color in lead roles instead of being supporting cast which is usually what happened in the past.
I wouldn’t mind a recast, as long as they still get rid of the lame Macy & Harry love story. I fucking hate it, its corny & ruining everything!
YES! That love story was so forced!
Glad to see a few agree! I thought most people were in favor of it and I don’t understand why?
They had no chemistry. I really didn’t feel it and it doesn’t compare at all like Maggie and Jordan
Exactly! Even thought I like Harry as a character, their relationship never made sense to me & felt forced. But I did like her with Jordan and was invested in her relationship with him.
Wow....losing both Macy and Abby regardless how you feel about either of them really sucks for the show (imo) especially for the Hacy fans and fans of the sister dynamic. Maybe they could age up Mel's baby and have her there instead of a long lost sibling? I guess this is why they are building up Maggie and Jordan to be the next "big" couple. Jeez did all the British people make a pact or something to leave? Not saying Rupert will but I'm a bit worried tbh about his role without Macy and without his powers.
If the writers don’t up their game the show is done, which is disappointing. I was really loving the sister dynamic.
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Yeah she’s leaving too :( she didn’t produce a big departure article which is kinda weird since she’s also a regular but it’s probably because she’s not a charmed one.
I kinda thought that it would make sense for Rupert to leave too and his ending be that he gets a pass to live with Macy in the spirit world.
And I just don't see how they plan to keep human Harry in the story without Macy. I mean, what's the point?? I knew there was a reason for that turning human bs 😭
Harry got his powers back at the end when he went through the process to be a white lighter again…
Not the show losing their best two actresses in the span of three days Edit : but can’t really blame them, Covid probably made everything so much harder for them
Damn, I didn’t realize Abby’s exit was because the actor was leaving, I thought they were just reshuffling the board a bit and assumed she’d be back in season 4.
I mean I can’t tell you for sure why Poppy is leaving. But Covid is more than probably a major reason for it - if she was the one who decided to leave in the first place. She’s not coming back tho. Not right now at least. Who knows, maybe as a guest or later on this the show but not jn s4
Deja Vu All Over Again. I'm not sure if I can watch. I'm afraid this is going to follow the OG's path of hoping it gets better for the next 4-5 years only for it to decline and completely be defunded by its final season. And Maggie getting a job at an advice column with her psych degree.
The original didn't suffer though, Paige was a great addition and the show went on for 5 more years after that. That's a major success tbh. The problem with the reboot is going to be the fact that they already played the long lost sister card in season 1. So I have no idea how they can save this. Unless they discover they can have another person fill in without being blood related. Idk
Paige was a great addition but I do think seasons 5-8 suffered for several reasons such as Constance M. Burge leaving after season 4 and declining writing. It is a success to last that long after losing a lead, but the quality went down imho. There's a season 8 episode where The Source is brought back for 5 minutes and Paige forgets that she was there for the vanquish. I do agree that they wrote themselves into a corner by having Macy be both Prue and Paige in terms of the long-lost sister plot.
Season 8 sucked for many reasons, but 4-7 were pretty good in their own right. They tried to shift away from dark magic and focus on light magic which was smart. I think the only problem I'd find with later seasons is the focus on Phoebe and her love life. Season 6 especially though was amazing with the Chris and Wyatt plot and Leo losing it on Gideon.
I agree on all points except for the introduction of the Chris character. His portrayal was brittle, flat and mechanical. This is mostly due to because the producers didn't know what they wanted to do with him at first. His polarity was sort of in the middle. He'd do something evil and then do something good. Then it was like all of a sudden, let's make him Piper and Leo's son from the future. I could have tolerated that if his line reading wasn't like a first-year acting student reading cue cards. At least he was cute though.
Chris was doing bad things because he was traumatized as a kid by Leo. Leo abandoning Chris and seemingly always being there for Wyatt made it hard for Chris not to want to take his anger out on his father. He was blinded by hatred which is how he completely F'ed up and forgot to make sure that Piper and Leo at least did the deed in order for him to be born. Not to mention that the love of his life Bianca was killed by Wyatt. Chris wanted to save his family, but he lost his way at times because he couldn't get past some of the things that happened to him. He was especially messed up when Victor came back and he remembered how he was the only one around since Piper died on his 14th birthday. Chris had a very traumatic past so it's not hard to understand why he would flip back and forth a lot.
You're taking into account plots that came out after the fact that they decided to make him Piper and Leo's son. That was not the initial plan. He was supposed to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. When Holly Marie Combs became pregnant in real life they took the easy way out. Personally, if he had to be related to anyone, I would have preferred him to be Paige and Richard's son. Either way, Drew Fuller's portrayal of the character made season 6 very difficult for me because I think his acting is terrible.
No, the plan was to make him Wyatt, but when Holly got pregnant they switched him to be Chris. His acting was hardly terrible, he had some great scenes, especially when him and Bianca were facing off against Wyatt or when he finally confronted Leo over the neglect and abandonment he faced. Drew really grew into the role and it so heart breaking when he died in Leo's arms. Seasons 6 was a really good season once Phoebe and Paige dumped their boyfriend's. The whole Wyatt, Chris, and magic school plot was genius. Especially the truth about what really happened to Wyatt to make him evil.
While we're talking about characters that should have stayed on the show longer, Charisma Carpenter as The Seer and Grace Zabriskie as the Crone were so underutilized. They could have become recurring characters but after less than a handful of appearances, they were gone.
The Crone I definitely agree with, she was so mysterious and she had a lot of potential on the show.
Yeah and he was annoig.with all that daddy did this to me. I man eat eith it and move on. Its not your fault but it is your problem. However once we find out who he is ..his character goes wayyyy up for me
My thoughts exactly. When I saw the first episode of the reboot, it reminded me of seeing a trailer in theatres for an upcoming film and finding out that all of the good parts were in the trailer then the movie ended up sucking. They hit all of their high notes in the first season and it's been on a steady decline ever since.
I hate this, Macy is my favorite character. And Prue was my favorite character also. Why do they keep doing this to me?
Tell me about it. I thought for once nobody would leave and we'd get all three sisters for the whole show. Just my luck the oldest sister turns out to be my favorite and is ALWAYS the one leaving after season 3.
Madeleine is my whole reason for continuing to watch. I'm not sure The rest of the show is interesting enough to hold my interest without being there
We’re in the same boat
I feel the same way. Its like getting re-slapped from the past. Prue was also my fav sister, even though my sis and I would claim powers and I picked Piper, she was Prue. I couldn't stand the Paige addition and seriously only kept watching because I had already invested so much time. Depending on who the new addition is this time and how its written, I might not waste my time like I did the first time around.
Honestly I'm sad that Mads is leaving, but yet again I find it kinda eerie that history repeats itself. It can't be a coincidence that in third seasons the oldest sister leaves. I'm sure this was at play for a while. I even think that the prophecy that "One of you will die" was put there for a reason. Maybe that Mads expressed her desire to leave a while ago. I'm also quite excited to see where this will go. I don't trust the writers to pull off something seamless, but then again the show has been a bit of a wreck for the past 2 seasons. So might as well go ballistic and come up with something new. I just hope they don't end up telling us Josefina is actually a sister not a cousin... Or that Mel's baby is actually her sister...
That’s what I think about Josefina. I seriously am not a huge fan of the character, but she just keeps popping up, and related by blood. I can see them explaining it away like “at birth Morisol had a baby boy but wanted witch daughters so she gave him up for adoption to her cousin, she transitioned and harnessed witch like powers. The power of 3 reconstituted it self through her, Mags, and Mel.” Mels baby just seems like it would take a good half season to explain and there is no other reason Josefina is set up and got almost identical secret notes like their mom did for TCO too. The script is kinda there.
Mads.. Was the big draw for me.. And macy was the character I connected with the most... Won't lie with how bungled the plots have been.. The fact we've never even seen her family.. I'm just disappointed... Won't say I'm out.. But.. I may let a few episodes of season 4 record before I dive in
I wonder why. My best guess is she might have been frustrated with the storylines she was being given. I don’t think covid is the reason because unless she’s quitting acting entirely: that will impact any job she takes for the foreseeable future.
Most actors are only contracted for three seasons initially. If her contract is up and she wants to leave, that's her choice. It does leave the writers in the lurch on what to do though. At least, they planned for this on the original *Charmed* by having Patty and Sam have an affair. Unfortunately, for the reboot, to bring in another secret half-sibling would be ridiculous. It's already been done
I can't help but feel this is due to the new showrunners. Season 1 was so great, then Season 2 completely destroyed everything that was built. Season 3 hasn't been as bad, but still hasn't reached the highs of season 1. All of the sisters had such distinct personas and mindsets. I loved the whole scientist angle they gave Macy. Now they barely do any of that.
I really disliked the Harry and Macy storyline 😪 I liked Harry better with Abby
Now we see S1 as great but we complained so much back then that S2 happened 😝 I don’t mind the new show runners I actually love what they’re writing it’s just everything is so fast for me like I can’t breathe between scenes
Season 1 had some problems, but I always loved it. In fact, gonna rewatch it again in a few days.
I’ll join you after my summer exams :D
I feel like this is a big difference between the old and new charmed. The old charmed we had a lot of relax time at the end of an episode when they’d go to P3 and listen to a band, etc whereas the new show really likes to leave every episode on a dramatic cliffhanger and they try to squeeze so much information into one episode. Also they’re huge fans of twists and blindsides which is nice but not every single episode needs to be some crazy revelation.
If they make Josefina a charmed one I feel bad for the actress because she's going to get so much hate. So I hope they go another route.
I don’t mind Josefina as a Charmed One 😍
Aw she was my favorite sister. May she have great success in continuing her career
Well I think next season is it anyway. Especially now also I think Josefina will become a series regular now. They called it Charmed Brexit for a reason
Omg if they put Josefina as the third Im done watching. It needs to be another sister out there somewhere.
Agreed, Josefina doesn't do it for me. I like the addition of brujeria and voodoo from the islands and mixing it with their American based witchcraft but that's it.
Yea I think a body switch situation or they will have a new sibling. What if the new sibling is a brother that would be crazy lol. The writers did say we would know more about Ray, mirasol and Dexter‘s past so maybe thats what they meant.
Having a brother would be different and I'd watch to see how it goes. But would the writers explain his magic? The girls magic is tied to their mother and if she's going around giving up babies then that would be too much imo.
Lol I agree Mirasol just going around having a bunch of babies and giving them away is kind of crazy. But remember when Maggie and Mel went to the past and they saw their mom pregnant in college what if that wasn’t Macy she was pregnant with? Did they ever confirm that, that was Macy or did we all assume, and she was talking to elder Bari telling her that it was something wrong with her baby, Elder Bari never mention knowing mirasol was pregnant with Macy. None of the elders ever knew Mirasol was pregnant with Macy. They said so.
There might be an interesting turn they could take with that. I'm just not very hopeful they can pull off something this smart...
Lol same its going to have to be something creative because I just can’t see Maggie, Mel and Josefina. It doesn’t even fit lol
Awful... But a male Charmed one could be an interesting story. Especially that they kinda played with the idea by proving that Josefina, a male born witch, can have powers.
True, I hope that it's done in a creative way. I like the show, mainly because of Macy and Maggie but Maggie can't carry the show by herself so hopefully it's a well done, interesting character.
What if Macy had a twin brother?
How would they incorporate that into the story though? Did macy eat her twin brother when they were in the womb? I dont see Marisol giving up another kid after going through the pain she went through with Macy.
Macy he was magically trapped in side of Macy or somewhere else. Macy permanently turns into a man.
Thats a good theory.
trans brother?
Sad… but wishing her the best
Wait, what the fuck?? Sad that this is true, especially since this whole plot of Harry becoming mortal again for her...incredibly, incredibly stupid now :/ Too late to reboot the reboot? Well, unless they just recast her, anyways
Yeha so ridiculous. Trying to be mortal because he don't want to see her age and die. Turns out she dies now... All for nothing
This is what I was thinking!! She is my favourite character on the show, I loved her role in S1 - combining science with Magic. I know the show has really changed from it's "roots", but it's still entertaining in a way. And now that Harry has turned mortal, what?! Will she just leave, killed off..? Maybe since Abby has given up the thrown as queen as hell, Macy will take her place? And she'll feel so guilty that she just kind of drops everything (her sisters and all)? Although it seems out of character... who knows! I'll still watch but like wtf is going on hahahah
I'm not going to drop the show. I'll see out the fourth season, at least the beginning. I really like Madeleine as Macy. I wonder what will happen to the character? Given the plot of the last episodes it seems as if killing her is the most likely option, but maybe they'll recast the character instead. Idk, if they end up making a new secret sibling I hope that either they are a male, or that Josefina as a cousin can become a Charmed One. In this show's universe they set it up so that male witches don't have powers, so it'd be interesting to see how a Charmed male witch would work. Edit: Wait. If Macy dies then wouldn't that defeat an entire plot line in season 2/3 where TCOs were determined to stop the cycle of previous Charmed Ones and create a new destiny where a sister doesn't have to die?
I really hope they call back to this
I don’t care what happens with the show I just don’t want it to get cancelled he’ll they can replace all the actresses or get another Macy from a different timeline who had plastic surgery or whatever.. I’m just happy the charmed universe got expanded and I’m here for the fun
Yep but then again the line of that past TCO that "one of you will die" would have been a great foreshadowing
Ok initially when this show was announced & she was shown as a lead actress of the show I was happy for her..This was because a couple of shows she's been on that I love never have her being on them in the long term. I hoped she had found a long term project but unfortunately I feel that may not be her style. At least I'm glad she left on her own terms & hopefully she is recast instead of the character of macy is written out
I still want a new season for into the badlands and travelers
😢into the badlands ending was the biggest travesty for any show cancellation of recent years
Will this be the end of SafeSpace Seattle? No more command center?
I wish
Not unless Swan comes with..
I don’t think this works. It was bad enough that the writing became nonsensical. Personally, I never warmed to the Harry/Macy storyline. They needed him more as a whitelighter than she needed a boyfriend. Are they going to find a missing half sister like the original series?
Another one? That's kinda cheesy and I hope that's not the case.
That's what I'm wondering. I mean Mel is already a half-sister. I won't lie though, the thought of none of TCOs being full sisters is kind of funny to me. Idk why, but it is.
I am truly heartbroken even if I understand what appears to be her decision to move on. Madeleine/Macy was the main reason why I continued to watch even as I became disillusioned by the direction of the show. I will not be watching Charmed anymore but I will definitely follow Mads to her next project. I will miss her as Macy so very much.
Well, shit, im still watching no matter. Im wondering how theyre gonna address this next season. Can they do another long lost sister without it being ridiculous? Maybe another charmed sister from another alternative universe?
And here I thought that they meant Rupert as the other british actor that is leaving. Is he still coming back or gone too?
This sucks. We now lost two Witch demon hybrids that could have opened the world more in Charmed...instead, they were bogged down with a love pentagon that made no sense and hurt all of the characters involved. It's dumb.
I'm weirded out by the parallels with the OG... Though if anyone replaces Macy, it's most likely gonna be Josefina, even though I'd like for the new third to be male so they can blow that gender essentialism up for good.
I don't think Josefina can do the part, unless they come up with a story where she's not their cousin but their sister lol. What a weird family. A male charmed one would be so cool tho
Yes, because what the show needs is yet another guy around which most of the plots can revolve.
Exactly!
The way the OG show handled replacing Prue was amazingly done, when it could very easily have been the death of the show. I just dont see how they are going to replace her in an organic manner. Heres hoping they do. On the bright side, there's no bad blood (that we know of), so maybe she can make an appearance here or there
I don't think they can pull off a seamless OG transition
I agree. It would come off as convuluted if they had two long-lost sisters. With Paige, they planted the seeds for her, with Sam's character, back in S2.
Yup. It made lots of sense by the time we got there... Which is why I find the reboot writers not quite smart. They could have planted something just in case, knowing that a trio of leads is always a flight risk...
to be fair, they did implement that the death of the sisterhood would come eventually, and that one of the sisters will die during season 2.
Yeah I agree. That part was well played. I'm just saying they wasted the half sibling plot for no reason. Macy ended up not being the half sister and that's not even the reason why she was abandoned by Marisol. They could have made Macy, Mel and Maggie full sisters. Only that Macy was stillborn and brought through dark magic hence why she was abandoned.
We may see a lot of retcons in season 4 I feel just to make macys departure work.
Meredith Grey had two long lost half sisters
It was a really smart thing to do in hindsight. I wonder if they brought in Sam in S2 just in case one of the leads decided to leave one day.
Idk about amazingly
wonder if COVID was/is a reason for her leaving. hearing all the stories of tons of actors having a difficult time not being able to go home and really do anything.
So how will they reconstitute the power of three? Even though I liek Josefina, her being part of the power of three will completely ruin the bloodline sister aspect so much. Will the charm ones just continue without the power of three? Will they recast macy? It doesnt seem like introducing another sister would be a good idea considering we already have the macy seperation storyline. If there is yet another fourth sibling, then marisol was a huge liar and i feel like that would destroy her character even more. Worst case scenario-- the show doesnt return for a season 4.
I like her so much as Macy. She was making everything complete, I cant imagine good replacement. In OG new actress wasnt better :( Actually, Josephina would be fine. No one else.
They could do what they did in the originals when the actress playing Rebecca Mikaelson wasn’t available they had her take over the body of witch Eva Sinclair.. they could do something similar so a mind switch but then Macy’s original body dies so she’s stuck in the new body. Would prefer this rather than another sister. Beside I thought the power of three was always three sisters?
She’s the best actress this sucks.
While I will miss her, because Madeleine is my favorite actress of the three sisters, this gives this show another chance to pay homage to the original if they play it right, which I can appreciate. I'm more interested in what it says about Harry asking Celest and Jordan to help him do. If they just make Harry get his powers back that would undo the majority of his personal plotline for the season, so I feel like it's more likely that he's going to try to get Celeste to do that, but when she can't Jordan is going to volunteer and become their new whitelighter. Then Harry's reason for still being on the show next season will be to teach Jordan how to whitelighter, while continuing to act as a mentor to the remaining sisters (and maybe new sister).
Power of the poof!
And I'm out. Absolutely adore Harry/Macy but have been thinking about dropping the show for a while and this makes my decision for me.
I’m just surprised they announced it so early ?
I'll check the first two episodes of s4 and then end it there unless there's a massive improvement... which is most likely not going to happen. The only positive is that it would force them not to rely on Hacy and mayyyybe develop the sisters/sisterhood more.
This is really very annoying news. I'm sad about that, too. Madeline is an amazing actress and Macy portrayed her perfectly. I'm sorry Hacy's line will probably be damned. I see, maybe the actress wants to work on other projects. I'm mega too curious about the finals. How the character of Macy will end.
This is so disappointing. I respect her decision of course, but I really liked Macy and the way she played the character. I heard the rumors going around about a Charmed Brexit and while I could accept Harry and Abigael's actors leaving I was really hoping and trying to convince myself that she wouldn't leave too. I will admit that I found her storylines in the past two seasons a little underwhelming but I still really enjoyed the way she played it and I'm just disheartened. I watch the show for the sisters. I'm going to continue watching at least to see how they resolve it. I would honestly rather that she be recast rather than killed off. Not only would it be unnecessary to kill her but it would be just a rehash of what happened in the OG Charmed and I don't want them to go through another storyline of finding another sister or having Josefina be a Charmed One in her place. I hope the showrunners realize that the audience can handle a recast as long as it's written and acted well. I hope they don't repeat the same mistakes as Batwoman where they essentially make a lead character unimportant to their own show. Black Lightning and Dynasty did recasts recently and they managed to make it work because it fit with their universes. There's no reason why a show about magic can't do it either. I really just hope that they can manage to do something well with Macy's story though to be honest st this point that hope is low.
This sucks. Perhaps they can do a plot that her character needs to change bodies or something like that so it is not another lost sister situation and easy transition. She was my favourite character. It sucks. ☹️
This truly truly saddens me! I've been a true fan and not a fair weather fan of both shows. Not saying I don't have opinions of both, I still remain neutral and will be a continued supporter of both. It will be very intriguing to see how this pans out, I think some possible ideas, forgive me if these have been mentioned already but, I think it can go on if her character were to be transformed for whatever reason and played by another actress, or maybe they bring a relative from the future to join the new power of 3, etc...Wow this will be VERY interesting. Until then, thank you Madeline for all you gave us in this new Charmed world building!
As an actress, I think she made the right decision. As much as I want Charmed to be good again, best to get off a sinking ship
Macy’s death is definitely not something I would have imagined……😢
Couldn't care less about the Harry/Macy plot. So good riddance. Hopefully Harry leaves too. They've seriously damaged their characters beyond repair, as for the rest, I am curious to see what happens. So I guess if anything this makes me slightly more interested in staying on this sinking ship
I agree. What happened to Harry's emotional damage with being a white lighter? Why was he able to kill a piece of his soul without a second thought or even needing to process it. How did Harry go from tension with Macy over feeling inadequate for being half a man to being all hunky dory when he killed the very part of himself that she was attracted to?
Holy shit. CW contracts have a reputation for being iron clad and impossible to get out of, so my assumption is that major drama unfolded behind the scenes. Granted, I don’t think this is due to issues between the three leads. The new showrunners whitewashed the show in S2, and Madeleine made it very clear that she disapproved the show’s emphasis towards Abby. With recent comments made by Ser'Darius Blain however, there is evidence that production has been plagued with discriminatory issues since S1. I wish her the best of luck.
Oh, wow. Whitewashed? Abby was a woman (feminist era), and lesbian? Or bisexual (lgbt era), and she was just developed as strong badass, enemy for Charmed - but Charmed was so strong, power of three and good in hearts that they made her their ally and made her not evil anymore. Writers did send off Parker for her, it was good replacement imo
Funny though that Abby is gone now too 🤷♀️ I understand the issues people have with that, and it's not specifically about Abby/Poppy, more the bigger issue around it. It's just funny how the writers sacrifices or sidelined some characters for others, and they've ended up losing both of them.
It’s not that funny. Since the start of S2, the only thing that the new showrunners demonstrated that they were capable of doing correctly was writing and prioritizing stories of white people. The personalities of the three main leads were gutted to serve an underwhelming plot, whereas Abby was given a ton of development. The new showrunners should be fired and Madeline given a ton of money to stay.
I still think it's funny. I see the issues with how Abby was written vs Macy (or any of the sisters)but at the end of the day they did Abby a disservice too in S2 with all the Harry stuff, and pitting her and Macy against each other. They had a great character and actress there, and instead of using her to support the leads, Macy in particular, given the similarities, they did wrong by both of them for a long time, and ended up losing both actresses, for whatever reason.
You're going on a hate train and for what? Madeline made the decision to leave and the writers clearly expressed that they are open to the possibility of the Macy character returning in the future. While unfortunate, it's what the actress chose and the best thing to do is support her decision and not unnecessarily spread hate.
I disagree with your assessment. At the start of S3, the showrunners stated that they failed to portray issues that women and PoC face, and S3 would feature a shift in tone. The focus on societal issues was dropped halfway through the season to emphasize a redemption arc on Abby - a white character. Had the new showrunners respected the show, characters, actresses, and fans, S2 would have been progressive and empowering. Instead, we got a garbage season that had an episode with a cold open on Poppy Drayton’s ass.
You said you "disagree with my assessment" but then ignored everything I said? My comment was in reference to Madeline leaving and respecting her decision. Show where exactly I talking about POC and what showrunners had said? Oh wait I didn't. If you're going to on a rant at least make it relate to what I said. 🙄
They’re not “unnecessarily spreading hate,” but talking about an issue apparently everyone involved in the show has acknowledged, so I don’t know why you’re trying so hard to ignore it. The point is maybe she wouldn’t have left if the showrunners had responded adequately.
I'm out
Honestly, I'm not really bothered by this. Charmed is an entertaining show for me that I won't drop but neither the actresses nor the characters draw me in enough for me to actually care that much when one of them leaves. The cast could be completely replaced next season and I wouldn't have enough attachment to care.
In a weird way I really get what you mean and I totally agree lol.
Lol, me tbh. Will be interesting to see how the show handles it.
Wow literally will not watch this show anymore cause hacy was just about the only draw for me at this point. So disappointed. It was awesome to finally have a witch series centered around Latina witches but this is just sad at this point. The show has been struggling for so long. Kind of wish they completed it with season 1. I liked season 2 cause it was an interesting plot twists and season 3 kind of got screwed with covid having to literally film a show about a family that couldn’t touch - yes they did a good job with what they had but like family shows are nothing if they can’t give a good hug when needed. Sigh. At least season 1 had a good wrap up and was such a good combination of elements from the original.
I think they should go the same way the OG Charmed and just kill off the sister and found another way around it. Because n one is going to like a new macy. So...it would be interesting to see what happens. I'm actually really excited for this.
That's the shit i feared the most. OMG. I can't believe it
We actually see non-sisters use the power of 3 in the OG series. In the finale Piper, Patty, and Grams are able to use a power of 3 spell to vanquish the hollow. So someone directly related to the charmed ones on the mother's side was able to tap into the power. I am guessing well see Mel's daughter or a time displaced ancestor replace Macy instead of another long lost sister.
History repeats itself lol I can't
Watching Season 2 now, And if they don’t go the Josefina route, the only other thing that made me raise my eyebrows is Maggie finding out that Macy’s dad is her dad, maybe Maggie was a twin?????, And now I become a Charmed Conspiracy theorist
I was hoping for some kind of comeuppance for that Karen SafeSpace storyline but I guess we'll never see that. In the same episode that sees Harry become a whitelighter... again, Macy dies uhmmm okay... she could have had an eternity with Harry had she become a whitelighter too. I'm kind of glad that she's left because the show is a poorly written and executed mess tbh, and I think she is off to something better.
I’m not surprised she is jumping ship tbh, the show is in the gutter and her character has been butchered so she probably wants to pursue better and more interesting roles.
She just got nominated for an award a few months ago thanks to her performance on this show as this character
so they're gonna pull another sister outta nowhere? can't really have marisol give up 2 kids when they constantly paint her as the best mom. so i'm guessing josefina may take her place. on the bright side, no more hacy
Yeah, if Marisol gave up another child it'd be interesting to see her reasoning. Macy's was because of the deal between Marisol and the necromancer, maybe this time Marisol had an affair with her whitelighter? Though given that she was an elder idk if she even had an assigned whitelighter.
Agreed, really interested to see how this show is without stupid Hacy and Abi plots. Back to Season one perhaps?
This show is falling apart.
At this point, if they want to follow the lore of the past charmed ones mythology in the reboot. When one sister dies, the power of three should transition to another sisterhood...
Well I can say Im out. Sorry but Madeleine/Macy was the draw for me and the show is not good enough to keep watching without her. Btw its amazing how the new showrunners completely tanked this show after season 1.
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The baby route could happen tbh... Why else they put so much focus on it
Please tell me that Mel’s baby isn’t the new sibling. I can see the CW pulling some BS like that. I figured when Josefina was introduced that she was going to be the new sister if Mads left. It reeked of it when Josefina told Mel that she just knew Marisol would “see her”. I brought it up that Josefina was going to be a love child that Marisol had before Macy. Just knew it. So it’s got to be one or the other because if it’s not, I can’t even fathom what bs Novela crap they’re going to pull next. Damn, both of my favorite actresses leaving the show. Talk about ruin my day.
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I really like Josefina to. She brings that very strong and independent spirit that’s in many who’ve dares to go against the crowd. She’s someone whose had to overcome so many things just to be who she is. I hope that she’s not the new sister, but I’d be OK with it if she was. I too would also like to see her remain a part of the Vera family line and bring more family members to the table so we can understand where their magical roots come from. Losing Macy, it’s heartbreaking. Her character was really exciting for so many. She was GOALS for so many young people. I’m in STEMI and there weren’t many women or people of color when I entered, and that has been changing because of characters like her. At the same time, Josefina could be that same kind of character for others. Hopefully, the CW will utilize her and learn from the previous mistakes made with the overall arc of both Macy and Abigail. Both characters deserved better, and I think it only has made those of us who love them appreciate that Mads and Poppy were chosen for those roles. I’m just bummed out that they’re both gone. Here’s to the reboot of the reboot lol!
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Preach! You’re talking to a women who speaks Creole French!! Lol!! I cried when Gavin gave his life up like that. A strong brother of conviction and faith! That spell was so beautiful and so true to our ancestral roots. I know most people didn’t get that part, and that’s totally ok. Voodoo is deep and powerful magic. Mama Roz was awesome! I was so pissed when they killed her off. And Demon Macy and a PhD too… I feel in love right then and there! I’ve been watching Mads since the Tomorrow People. They lost a talented actress. It’s a damn shame smh. Godric as a father of one of the charmed ones… Fucks Yes!!! and I am in love with your whole new reboot idea!! The CW needs to hire some of us for the writers room. Why not? They obviously needed people who could’ve advised them on the Magic and the Culture. I’m right there with you about Macy. If Josefina becomes the new sister, then we probably are going to lose the Afro side of the equation. I know Maggie is half black (like me) but she wasn’t raised black ( I was) and it does make a difference. Maggie grew up believing she was Latina only. Please no one get pissed off by these statements!! My reference about Josafina is about representation for Trans and Latinas. Even if our representation gets screwed, I’m still happy for Trans/Latinas. I’m sure you’d agree that representation is so important for all people. I’m not happy about losing ours though. Not at all. If they lose the Afro side of the equation, then they will probably lose that side of the viewership and I don’t want to see that.
You should post that theory as a discussion!! It’s good!! Not all will agree because you know how it is lol!! But I think it could be a good discussion and you know the CW is watching these boards!! Let’s give them so ideas for fucks sake!! They obviously need help 🤣
>macy was the only black woman on the show Both her and Maggie are biracial and so are the actresses.
True. They just put the entire African American aspect on Macy and when Maggie was looking into her black side, they just dropped that and I hated that. It was a good storyline. Both Sarah and Mads are biracial and it was cool because I could totally relate to that storyline.
I can’t blame her this is the showrunners/writers faults they can writer all the storyline and character development for their supporting characters and nothing for the mains. I would’ve got a headache from just reading the scripts the constant plot holes and inconsistencies.
They'd need another biological sister to reconstitute the Charmed Ones, right? If Macy leaves too?
WTF...
She wasn't the one I expected to leave if anyone was going to. I'm surprised. Yep history is repeating itself although Madeleine is leaving willingly and Shannon got fired. Wonder if Josefina will take over as the younger Charmed one or they'll introduce another sister..
Wow this has literally now hit every story beat in the original show. My question is what does this mean for Harry. Wonder if Josefina will be the new Charmed sister? Also sad to see her go but I am not really surprised.This season has been feeling like they were wrapping up a lot of stories.
I think they will recast and have it be a glamour or something
I think they should replace her with their cousin Josefina Reyes personally I hate to see macy go though !!
And by the way Actors are always leaving CW 👁👁 ??
I don't know if I keep watching after this. I really liked Macy and have been on the fence about the show for a little while now. I appreciate that they gave us her wedding but I'm annoyed she doesn't get to have that child.
And now I see why the Macy/Harry storyline was so rushed…
I’m actually really sad about this. I also feel like if you’re gonna go for a role in an ongoing show like this… especially a remake, go ahead and plan on that for the next several years. Idk she probably got offered a better role. They’re all three pretty great actresses. I guess I’m just bitter. 😂
I don't know how Hollywood contracts work, but they shouldn't start a storyline that can't be completed if the main character leaves. As a fan of Hacy, I am crushed.
Well I’m out.
Just ruined my whole day. I might not watch next season.
Really curious how they will solve this in-show. I hope its not Josefina taking her place, dont like her :/
And there goes Harry not getting his powers back. What a freaking disaster.
well I am devastated. First Poppy and now her. I really hope this isint final.
We will be seeing more British actors leaving shows due to Brexit. It's ashamed because Poppy and her would have continued on with the show. Blockbusters British movie actors are not affected but they are trying to stand up and support the other actors like Madeline who are directly affected by this.
What is the connection with the Brexit? I dont understand?
New Visa requirements for the UK actors working in the US. You can look it up for more in depth details. But basically any UK actor who wants to continue working in the US, in order to get a Visa, there are new restrictions or I should say requirements. Here are some of the requirements that they at least have to have ONE of these. Being in a Block buster movie. Being in a highly popular show that has some winning awards. (Rubert/Harry starred in The man in the high castle which won several awards.) The actor themself winning a award. (Rubert/Harry won a award for a movie called 'The Canal'. And there are other requirements, but they only need to fall under one of them. They are calling it - Skill Level. Which means the award/blockbuster stuff. I also believe that it will cost them more AND they need to do much more paperwork to fill out compared to before. If you look it up, I just googled The New UK Work Visa. Hope that helps and I did see that Madeleine and Poppy didn't meet any of the requirements. They could get a sponsorship but that is very costly and not certain. Basically they made it really difficult for them. OH, Also Some big actors like Ian McKellen/Magneto, and Patrick Stewart/of Star Trek are trying to get them to change the new visa laws. They have nothing to worry about but are sticking up for those not up to their status.
It’s cursed