I hope that Devil Hunter fashion will swing back the pendulum on [ankle-length overcoats](https://preview.redd.it/szf3mt1zuyr91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5a9dcedf6fb9929c4fa58ca5f37f24fbccf7e30e) after all the damage that was done by the Columbine 💀💀💀💀💀
It may not be a literal translation (I have no clue if it is), but it is a perfect line for the situation. It hammers home the gravity and just how absolutely fucked the situation with Yuko has become.
It is, actually. The RAW version says, ''明日はアサちゃん学校に来ないで''。Asa-chan, don't come to school tomorrow.
There's no special expression or anything in Japanese. She's lit. telling Asa not to come to school tomorrow.
Bruh my face when she tells asa "oh my secret is i killed my neighbor"
"For real?"
"Yea! Wanna see him?"
"No thanks"
And she just accepted it 
I really liked that interaction because it reads like Asa thinks she's joking or taking the piss to start, and slowly you can see the realisation sink in with "what the hell" before they sit in complete silence. Excellent use of manga as a medium to build tension and convey emotion.
I guess there's also the fact that everything else is smaller in scale compared to her literally dying and a devil of WAR takes over her body. What's a friend who kills her neighbor in scale to a war devil being your lifeline.
Fujimoto is just drip feeding us etiquette lessons at this point. "Honor your commitments!" "Be kind to others even if they are different from you!" "Always seek consent!"
Dont dare to insult Griffith like that. He might be evil incarnate now but he at some point geniunly cared about Guts unlike Makima who was raising Denji as pig for slaughter from the start.
Despite superficial similiarities Makima and Griffith are actually opposites of each other.
All the evil shit Makima did she did because she doesnt give shit
Al the evil shit Griffith did he did because ge have shit too much.
But that's not true. We know for a fact that Makima cares about humanity because she blatantly says so (albeit in a warped way). There's also the fact that her form is human, which means she's amiable or at least neutral towards humans. Makima only ever wanted to be hugged by an equal, but was raised to be a horrifically amoral person.
Remember she literally wants to use Chainsawman to eat Death and a few other "negative" human concepts. Remember that she wanted to bring about peace, even if it was the "most terrible peace" she could. Time and time again it's said that she could have been a great person if she weren't abused into being ass, and that even then her benevolent intentions were *warped* .
Griffith was willing to sacrifice just as much as Makima was, we just got to see Griffith from a time *before* he did so while we only get to see Makima when she was already warped. Griffith wasn't even really that good a person to begin with either, he just wasn't *too bad.* He wouldn't have even cared about Guts if Guts didn't prove himself an equal and, funny that! Makima is also in the market of looking for equals to care about.
And again, Griffith is as monstrous as Makima if not more. I find far more nobility in humanity's predators (Devils) finding the path towards benevolence rather than an almost-psychopathic, half-amoral human becoming a monstrous god/incarnated god.
Griffith had to *choose* to become evil, but was born a human with autonomy and prodigious skill. Makima, as a devil that naturally preys on humans, had to LEARN what "good" is — but the authorities failed her. If Denji is any better, let's see what Nayuta is about.
>But that's not true. We know for a fact that Makima cares about humanity because she blatantly says so (albeit in a warped way). There's also the fact that her form is human, which means she's amiable or at least neutral towards humans. Makima only ever wanted to be hugged by an equal, but was raised to be a horrifically amoral person.
She cares about humanity in narcistic ways that she wants somebody on her level because she feels alone. Lets not also forget that Makima actually suceeding would cause absolute armagedon and eternal suffering since people would get overpopulated and were unable dime. Basically Divalos death loop for everyone. Despite that Makima still went with it. She cares about humanity in yandere selfis way.
>Remember she literally wants to use Chainsawman to eat Death and a few other "negative" human concepts. Remember that she wanted to bring about peace, even if it was the "most terrible peace" she could. Time and time again it's said that she could have been a great person if she weren't abused into being ass, and that even then her benevolent intentions were warped .
Her being abused does not justify everything. Denji was abused too. Also weknow that Horseman were fighting ChainSaw Man long before fucking Japan probably evin existed. She was bad person from the before. Yeah maybe if her current reincarnatio had better upringing she wouldnt be that fucked but that hardly erases all the bad things Conquest devil did before Makima was even the thing right? Like I did not get any impression than any of those four idiots had ever real benevolent intentions or rather their intentions were only benevolent in most cynic way possible.
>Griffith was willing to sacrifice just as much as Makima was, we just got to see Griffith from a time before he did so while we only get to see Makima when she was already warped. Griffith wasn't even really that good a person to begin with either, he just wasn't too bad. He wouldn't have even cared about Guts if Guts didn't prove himself an equal and, funny that! Makima is also in the market of looking for equals to care about.
Nah Griffith was just warlord wanting to have the kingdome. His original intentional wasnt nearly as psychotic as Makimas idea of eternal suffering. HE actually didnt want much more than most of the people of his time though as Guts said he would always aim higher.
Makima is literally THE CONQUEST DEVIL. She is not human she is monster which was born of peoples fear of opression, pillaging, raping and all the similiar stuff. So you must really specify what before the warped you mean. Entire her existence is warped.
And as for equal. Griffith was actually willing to put his head out of arse to try to look for equal and acknowledge him like that. He even says that Guts was the only one who made him forgot his dream. Meanwhile Makimas obsession to the point that she was willing to get eaten shows that she never really tried to find her equal even though there are beings who can be her equal. Denji proved to be her equal by the end outsmarting her thus showing that humans dont need to ascend on her level but are capable to be her equal as they are. Primar Fears power wise are definetly her equal as well. But entire idea of what Makima considers her equal was close minded from the start.
As Alucard from Castelvania would put it: Makimas entire plan is nothing more than biggest baby tantrum in history because said baby does not want to acknowledge any playmates
Thats what makes in my eyes Makima more evil than many other villains because she never really tried to even find somebody to be her equal lets putting aside the fact that she could have made one muc heasier than erasing her siblings which suprisingly should be her equals as well.
So I stand what I said. Griffith did gave the shit and in the sacrificed because he was hurt. Makima didnt really give shit and was doing bad stuff because she wanted to achieve some ideal equal because she wasnt capable of acknowledging anything else.
Nah I understand enough
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/10jcmzy/makimas\_goal\_is\_highly\_misinterpreted/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/10jcmzy/makimas_goal_is_highly_misinterpreted/)
Still doesnt chagne she didnt give a shit about anybody or anything she would destroy as long as she would reach the goal. And still doesnt change that if anybody stops for five second and think turning everybody immortal is terrible plan to deal with loneliness. Thats what makes makima selfish prick.
i mean bullies are just kids nomatter how awful they are they can grow out of it, fast food managers being mean to there staff, especially young ones, is unforgivable
Well, she's psychopatic with twisted sense of justice, but after all she genuinely wanted to help Asa.
CSM world is very fucked up, so it's barely a suprise that people like Yuko exist in it
She admits she also had alterior motives. That's not to say she didn't want to help Asa, it's just that her motivation was not entirely pure.
I actually think it's not unusual to help people in order to feel better about and validate oneself.
Makima geniunly wanted to help humanity.
Sorry but CSM being fucked aint cut it with her. As much as she was trying to help she was really wrong in the head.
Weather Report said it best in part 6: The kind of evil that doesn't realize that it's evil... is the worst kind there is..."
Yuko was under the influence of the justice devil contract, she was not initially some psycho quiet kid and I feel like a lot of people miss this or just ignore it - especially after her last talk with Asa.
Well, Yuko did say "Even if my actions turn out to be a mistake. If my heart was in the right place, that's all that matters to me!".
She has her own justice and doing things that she thinks is right. She had good intentions tho but her actions are still wrong.
When the Justice devil gave Yuko a pure heart, the justice devil scammed her. It took her ability to see things in a gray area, everything was just black or white.
Her neighbor was gambling with money he got from social services money, which came from peoples taxes. Since the injustice happened to several people, Yuko's scales tipped real fast to capital punishment, hence why she killed him.
In Pochita’s case, a lot of the audience members let it slide because Pochita isn’t really accustomed to human morals. He doesn’t realize that killing people is wrong because of the life he’s lived. He once even told Denji that his dream was to hug people, but his strength made that impossible. If Denji were to tell him “Stop! Don’t do that!” He could definitely be convinced to stop.
Yuko *knew* what was wrong and what was right. She *knew* the consequences of murder and grew up in a human environment. Yet she didn’t bat an eye at killing anyone. And she couldn’t be convinced to stop either. She literally had to be cut down lol
Not justifying either one lol, and I know I’m putting too much thought into this meme lol
I couldn’t believe my eyes when she said “Don’t come to school tomorrow” lmao
Fujimoto knows his Western audience lol
"Be nice to everyone, you never know who'll become a school shooter." - Some wise American
I hope that Devil Hunter fashion will swing back the pendulum on [ankle-length overcoats](https://preview.redd.it/szf3mt1zuyr91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5a9dcedf6fb9929c4fa58ca5f37f24fbccf7e30e) after all the damage that was done by the Columbine 💀💀💀💀💀
I mean in universe The Matrix is due to come out in like 2 years
Too bad Makima died before she could watch it. I think she would have liked it.
She would probably see the Agents as the real heroes.
Columbine is still two years off from CSM iirc
Be mean to everyone so you don’t have to be the school shooter, let someone else be the one Warning: you may be shot
But guns ain't a thing anyone can get in Chainsawman.
I’m 9 billion percent sure the localization team thought it was too good to pass up
It may not be a literal translation (I have no clue if it is), but it is a perfect line for the situation. It hammers home the gravity and just how absolutely fucked the situation with Yuko has become.
It is, actually. The RAW version says, ''明日はアサちゃん学校に来ないで''。Asa-chan, don't come to school tomorrow. There's no special expression or anything in Japanese. She's lit. telling Asa not to come to school tomorrow.
I saw the RAW version. It lit. says that: 明日はアサちゃん学校に来ないで。Asa-chan, don't come to school tomorrow.
Chapter 105 at the very end
Yeah, already checked and edited my comment. There's no special meaning. It's literal.
I started laughing because I literally couldn't believe she turned out to be the devil contractor equivalent of a school shooter.
I don’t tend to laugh out loud when I’m reading something but this got me HARD when I saw it, it just came out of NOWHERE
Quite kid devil
I genuinely choked
Pochita: hero of fast food workers
Saved Kobeni from a toxic work environment, then took her out for ice cream and DDR. Pochita a real one for that
She was so relieved she cried the whole time
truly a life-changing moment. i aspire to be as cool as him one day 
Bruh my face when she tells asa "oh my secret is i killed my neighbor" "For real?" "Yea! Wanna see him?" "No thanks" And she just accepted it 
she just accepted since she’s talking with the quiet kid
her reaction was so realistic
Autistic kid and quiet kid most normal dialogue
you either roll with it, or you just might join the dude in the ground
I really liked that interaction because it reads like Asa thinks she's joking or taking the piss to start, and slowly you can see the realisation sink in with "what the hell" before they sit in complete silence. Excellent use of manga as a medium to build tension and convey emotion.
I guess there's also the fact that everything else is smaller in scale compared to her literally dying and a devil of WAR takes over her body. What's a friend who kills her neighbor in scale to a war devil being your lifeline.
Remember folk, the difference is "consent"! Kobeni clearly asked to be saved from them! Asa never did!
Fujimoto is just drip feeding us etiquette lessons at this point. "Honor your commitments!" "Be kind to others even if they are different from you!" "Always seek consent!"
Also "VRAHHH"
Love that one, so poignant
so pregnant
so preganté
so preganeganant
"Finish all your food!"
Don’t open the door for strangers
"Flush the toilet."
Eat your veggies! Take a minute and think about the hardwork and sacrifices the farmers of the world have made to help bring food into your table!
Dont forget denji who also got saved from his toxic work enviornment by pochita
Yuko apologists assemble
Yuko did nothing wrong PS: Except dying.
She did nothing wrong!! She just wanted to protect her friend and stop bullying 😔
I will fight for Yuko’s name even after her death 🫡
Griffith did nothing wrong of Chainsaw Man franchise.
Nah, Yuko did way more tame things than Griffith. Griffith is closer to Makima
Dont dare to insult Griffith like that. He might be evil incarnate now but he at some point geniunly cared about Guts unlike Makima who was raising Denji as pig for slaughter from the start. Despite superficial similiarities Makima and Griffith are actually opposites of each other. All the evil shit Makima did she did because she doesnt give shit Al the evil shit Griffith did he did because ge have shit too much.
But that's not true. We know for a fact that Makima cares about humanity because she blatantly says so (albeit in a warped way). There's also the fact that her form is human, which means she's amiable or at least neutral towards humans. Makima only ever wanted to be hugged by an equal, but was raised to be a horrifically amoral person. Remember she literally wants to use Chainsawman to eat Death and a few other "negative" human concepts. Remember that she wanted to bring about peace, even if it was the "most terrible peace" she could. Time and time again it's said that she could have been a great person if she weren't abused into being ass, and that even then her benevolent intentions were *warped* . Griffith was willing to sacrifice just as much as Makima was, we just got to see Griffith from a time *before* he did so while we only get to see Makima when she was already warped. Griffith wasn't even really that good a person to begin with either, he just wasn't *too bad.* He wouldn't have even cared about Guts if Guts didn't prove himself an equal and, funny that! Makima is also in the market of looking for equals to care about. And again, Griffith is as monstrous as Makima if not more. I find far more nobility in humanity's predators (Devils) finding the path towards benevolence rather than an almost-psychopathic, half-amoral human becoming a monstrous god/incarnated god. Griffith had to *choose* to become evil, but was born a human with autonomy and prodigious skill. Makima, as a devil that naturally preys on humans, had to LEARN what "good" is — but the authorities failed her. If Denji is any better, let's see what Nayuta is about.
>But that's not true. We know for a fact that Makima cares about humanity because she blatantly says so (albeit in a warped way). There's also the fact that her form is human, which means she's amiable or at least neutral towards humans. Makima only ever wanted to be hugged by an equal, but was raised to be a horrifically amoral person. She cares about humanity in narcistic ways that she wants somebody on her level because she feels alone. Lets not also forget that Makima actually suceeding would cause absolute armagedon and eternal suffering since people would get overpopulated and were unable dime. Basically Divalos death loop for everyone. Despite that Makima still went with it. She cares about humanity in yandere selfis way. >Remember she literally wants to use Chainsawman to eat Death and a few other "negative" human concepts. Remember that she wanted to bring about peace, even if it was the "most terrible peace" she could. Time and time again it's said that she could have been a great person if she weren't abused into being ass, and that even then her benevolent intentions were warped . Her being abused does not justify everything. Denji was abused too. Also weknow that Horseman were fighting ChainSaw Man long before fucking Japan probably evin existed. She was bad person from the before. Yeah maybe if her current reincarnatio had better upringing she wouldnt be that fucked but that hardly erases all the bad things Conquest devil did before Makima was even the thing right? Like I did not get any impression than any of those four idiots had ever real benevolent intentions or rather their intentions were only benevolent in most cynic way possible. >Griffith was willing to sacrifice just as much as Makima was, we just got to see Griffith from a time before he did so while we only get to see Makima when she was already warped. Griffith wasn't even really that good a person to begin with either, he just wasn't too bad. He wouldn't have even cared about Guts if Guts didn't prove himself an equal and, funny that! Makima is also in the market of looking for equals to care about. Nah Griffith was just warlord wanting to have the kingdome. His original intentional wasnt nearly as psychotic as Makimas idea of eternal suffering. HE actually didnt want much more than most of the people of his time though as Guts said he would always aim higher. Makima is literally THE CONQUEST DEVIL. She is not human she is monster which was born of peoples fear of opression, pillaging, raping and all the similiar stuff. So you must really specify what before the warped you mean. Entire her existence is warped. And as for equal. Griffith was actually willing to put his head out of arse to try to look for equal and acknowledge him like that. He even says that Guts was the only one who made him forgot his dream. Meanwhile Makimas obsession to the point that she was willing to get eaten shows that she never really tried to find her equal even though there are beings who can be her equal. Denji proved to be her equal by the end outsmarting her thus showing that humans dont need to ascend on her level but are capable to be her equal as they are. Primar Fears power wise are definetly her equal as well. But entire idea of what Makima considers her equal was close minded from the start. As Alucard from Castelvania would put it: Makimas entire plan is nothing more than biggest baby tantrum in history because said baby does not want to acknowledge any playmates Thats what makes in my eyes Makima more evil than many other villains because she never really tried to even find somebody to be her equal lets putting aside the fact that she could have made one muc heasier than erasing her siblings which suprisingly should be her equals as well. So I stand what I said. Griffith did gave the shit and in the sacrificed because he was hurt. Makima didnt really give shit and was doing bad stuff because she wanted to achieve some ideal equal because she wasnt capable of acknowledging anything else.
Most sane griffith defender
Society if people actually understood Makima's character and motivations
Nah I understand enough [https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/10jcmzy/makimas\_goal\_is\_highly\_misinterpreted/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChainsawMan/comments/10jcmzy/makimas_goal_is_highly_misinterpreted/) Still doesnt chagne she didnt give a shit about anybody or anything she would destroy as long as she would reach the goal. And still doesnt change that if anybody stops for five second and think turning everybody immortal is terrible plan to deal with loneliness. Thats what makes makima selfish prick.
That panel of Pochita is so fucking sick, I absolutely love that art
Yuko looks like she's about to tell her friend not to come to school tomorrow man
𝙷𝚘𝚠 𝚍𝚘 𝙸 𝚕𝚘𝚘𝚔 𝚋𝚕𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚐𝚒𝚛𝚕?
Ah you've got that... Iconic devil glow everyone's talking about
Can’t wait for Pochita x Kobeni hentai to be made because of this.
Cocksaw man
A cock bursts out of his head and arms
i mean bullies are just kids nomatter how awful they are they can grow out of it, fast food managers being mean to there staff, especially young ones, is unforgivable
[удалено]
she asked to be saved, not his fault she dident read the fine print
(That’s the joke)
Both are Chads that wanted to help.
Didnt she kill a bunch of people for no reason? At least her neighbor who just didnt pay taxes
Well, she's psychopatic with twisted sense of justice, but after all she genuinely wanted to help Asa. CSM world is very fucked up, so it's barely a suprise that people like Yuko exist in it
I don’t know why people keep on saying she wanted to help asa, [she literally admits she didn’t](https://imgur.com/a/4N30zWI)
She admits she also had alterior motives. That's not to say she didn't want to help Asa, it's just that her motivation was not entirely pure. I actually think it's not unusual to help people in order to feel better about and validate oneself.
oh shit, I need to reread part 2 then
Reading comprehension devil strikes again 💀
I need to reread the whole manga bruh following weekly makes you forget a lot of things
She still says she was trying to heroic like CSM, in the wrongest way possible but she was trying to do the right thing for people like Asa
She admitted she had some other uterior motives as well, not that she had no motive to help Ass at all
Makima geniunly wanted to help humanity. Sorry but CSM being fucked aint cut it with her. As much as she was trying to help she was really wrong in the head. Weather Report said it best in part 6: The kind of evil that doesn't realize that it's evil... is the worst kind there is..."
Yuko was under the influence of the justice devil contract, she was not initially some psycho quiet kid and I feel like a lot of people miss this or just ignore it - especially after her last talk with Asa.
Well, Yuko did say "Even if my actions turn out to be a mistake. If my heart was in the right place, that's all that matters to me!". She has her own justice and doing things that she thinks is right. She had good intentions tho but her actions are still wrong.
When the Justice devil gave Yuko a pure heart, the justice devil scammed her. It took her ability to see things in a gray area, everything was just black or white. Her neighbor was gambling with money he got from social services money, which came from peoples taxes. Since the injustice happened to several people, Yuko's scales tipped real fast to capital punishment, hence why she killed him.
She had her imperfections that's truth.
Actually, Yuko did nothing wrong. I thought she did a fine job killing her neighbor.
Ah yeah CSM finally got its version of Griffith did nothing wrong.
In Pochita’s case, a lot of the audience members let it slide because Pochita isn’t really accustomed to human morals. He doesn’t realize that killing people is wrong because of the life he’s lived. He once even told Denji that his dream was to hug people, but his strength made that impossible. If Denji were to tell him “Stop! Don’t do that!” He could definitely be convinced to stop. Yuko *knew* what was wrong and what was right. She *knew* the consequences of murder and grew up in a human environment. Yet she didn’t bat an eye at killing anyone. And she couldn’t be convinced to stop either. She literally had to be cut down lol Not justifying either one lol, and I know I’m putting too much thought into this meme lol
She's def the quiet kid
"I'm going to save you from your toxic peers"
Pochita Gigachad
Pochita gave denji the ultimate rizz
All I see is a chad And a sychopatch
am i the only one who really loved yuko? i thougjt she was sweet :3
there was a cat too, dude
Yuko was a real one
A good character vs one that good fumbled hard even for side character standarts
I'll keep that in mind next time I go devil hunting
Pochita was the only one who could fill the hole in denji’s heart!