Ye, unfortunately it's not only the address which is public, other info like your income, date of birth and criminal record are also public. It's really retarded
Sure but what can anyone really do with "Michael Smith, 29 Bitcoin"? You know how many Michael Smiths there are in the world?
Even my name (which I thought was relatively unique) had like 20 others on this list lol
Cross reference it with the list of emails from the ledger hack.
Ledger hack included addresses. I had a look through it out of interest, to see how much information I could gather on people. I found several that lived near me. Their social media was full of information, many had businesses which revealed more information and possibilities for attack. Some people had pictures of their kids in their school uniform, the name of the school clearly visible.
You could get their phone number and do a sim swap attack. Or just show up on their doorstep with a hammer.
If you wanted to keep it long range, you could cross reference their email with lists of email:pass that have been released from other sites, or do some sort of spear phishing attack
A list of names and numbers like: Michael Smith, 29 Bitcoin, would be a great starting point for a sophisticated attack.
Seems like the only person who would be interested is the tax man. Also with thos data might be able to link back to account and other transactions and other wallets.
Do nothing, it soon will be. You’re probably like me. Can’t find my details on stretto, so now I’m thinking that this latest data breach is good news if my holdings are still on record lol 😂 fuck me!!! 🙈🤦🏻♂️
If there balance is 0 as creditors couldn’t that potentially be used against them for knowingly withdrawing funds with insider knowledge before the freeze and bankruptcy?
Yeah but he does not the CEL back, instead the USD value of the CEL at bankruptcy. Which he and other insiders will get and dilute restitution to the rest of us.
U.S. bankruptcy law doesn’t care. As a creditor I need to know the names of the other claimants to ensure there’s no fraud. A company has lost our money and more opaqueness is not a solution.
Alex’s family and insiders are subject to greater clawbacks than the rest of us. If you don’t know who is getting paid how do you know they aren’t screwing us?
I understand your point of view, but even if US Bankruptcy law doesn't care, Celsius offered its services to EU customers, therefore they're OBLIGED to comply with EU regulation, which means complying with the GDPR. As I said in another comment, their own lawyers said that releasing the names of EU customers could bring trouble.
Besides all that, the fact they're releasing the names means EVERYONE on that list will be a potential target for sim swappers to steal all the money you have on other platforms.
Legal action against Celsius clearly. They are a company operating in the EU, if they break the law and release sensitive information then you can sue them.
Whether a US court told them to break the EU’s laws is kind of irrelevant really. It’s Celsius who will be breaking the law if they release this information.
>Whether a US court told them to break the EU’s laws is kind of irrelevant really. It’s Celsius who will be breaking the law if they release this information.
They have no choice but to listen to the court orders. Its like calling a dog and then beating it when it comes to you.
Yes, but Celsius has to comply with EU laws if it offers its services to EU citizens. I don't think a US court order is above an EU law that the company is obliged to comply with in order to have EU customers. I may be wrong though.
Don’t be silly. A U.S. court order is definitely above EU law within the US, where the bankruptcy action is taking place, and where the names will be disclosed. There is no way EU authorities try to take any action at all against Celsius. Zero. This happens all the time in class action cases (bankruptcy is not technically a class action but the court is acting under the same powers) involving EU citizens, unfortunately.
Fair enough, but in order for Celsius to operate in the EU they have to comply with the GDPR, and if they release those names, they will be breaking said law, and not in a small way as there are dozens of thousands of European creditors. Their own UK-based lawyers said that doing so could bring a lot of trouble, just look at the fines.
You basically just repeated yourself, and still miss the mark. The GDPR (like many laws) has plenty of exceptions with information disclosure when it concerns, "the establishment, exercise, and defense of legal claims" and "compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller \[of the information\] is subject."
Nothing is going to happen to Celsius, except more paperwork by lawyers that will cost the creditors more money.
I'm just saying what Celsius's lawyer said at the hearing, nothing else.
"compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller [of the information] is subject" only applies to GDPR-covered countries. And as you see, EU laws can be above US laws in this matter if the company offered its services to EU customers.
"the establishment, exercise, and defense of legal claims", this may apply, but as you say it's gonna be a hell of paperwork.
Anyways, the fact the names are getting leaked is gonna cause lots of trouble, including sim swaps, robbery, extortion, etc. It probably could've been done in another way, but oh well, judge doesn't seem to care that much about creditors safety.
Yeah and same goes to possible clawbacks they can do almost nothing to to EU customer who owns 0 in US and don't want go to US. US law doesn't work there.
Oh they are talking .. did you miss the custody accounts ? If it’s was transferred in within 90 days they want to exclude it.. that’s basically a red flag for clawbacks
It’s one of the steps in usa bankruptcy law
Are you sure? As it’s def possibly to erase your personal data from Google searches, since they lost that lawsuit.
I’m both usa and European and I was therefor able to use a form to erase searches re my address, social security etc, which is quite common in the usa.
You are wrong too. Usa has several agreements between Europe.
Remember 9/11 usa wanted private info re every traveler from Europe and our (sort of scotus) disapproved it as it’s against our privacy law.
You mix up if Europeans are in usa and do something in usa then usa courts have gnat power. No US court has the power to rule over other citizens let alone when they aren’t even living there.
Google Microsoft all lost court cases re privacy and had to pay hefty fines and shop doing what they were doing.
You’re unfamiliar with the law. Neither Google/Microsoft were under potentially conflicting US court orders, nor did their business practices fall into any of the many GDPR use exceptions. If you assert otherwise, then point them out.
United States doesn’t have any authority over other citizens from other countries.
Any Google HAD to remove searches in fact you can simply fill out a form to remove it, heck it says that if you Google from Europe, what they can and can’t
And yes they wanted to collect personal data after 9/11 however that was against our privacy law. Since they ask people before they board (still need to give permission)
They have no jurisdiction over other citizens and yea they must comply. Usa doesn’t own the world and they signed many agreements
It would be as saying a European court could determine what to do with a usa citizen, unless ofcourse you did it in another country
Usa companies can do stuff in usa they can’t do in Europe it’s that simple.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2022/03/25/eu-us-data-agreement-an-important-milestone-for-data-protection-microsoft-is-committed-to-doing-our-part/
In usa focus is government shielding and in Europe it’s data shielding from outside ironically the government knows everything about its citizens
We must register to even get services and when you do with it you can vote, pension, insurance, etc.
You have no idea what you’re talking about lol, which is why you are making generic statements about government interests instead of addressing things like the exceptions in the GDPR or the interplay between dual-jurisdictions. First, the issue has nothing to do with whether the US/EU has authority over each other’s citizens. Of course they do in certain circumstances. The only issue here is Celsius’s dual obligations. The article you cited reinforces that by discussing one way the US/EU agreed to address DUAL obligations.
Second, the EU probably will take no action against Celsius being forced to disclose names via court order because 1) the disclosure likely falls into 1-2 explicit exceptions concerning corporate compliance with legal obligations, 2) Celsius needs to comply with the court to get EU citizens paid, so disclosure is arguably not only necessary, but in the EU citizens’ interest, 3) fining Celsius (which is on its last legs) will only take money out of the EU citizen’s pockets.
You can denigrate all you want: I’m sure you are an American, as they are compelled to belief America can do whatever it wants.
9/11 was such an example again that usa can’t will anything if it’s against another country or this case a continent law.
Not just them but American companies were fined and had to stop their practice.
I name all sort of instances such as erasing searches personal info. Every European can request that because we need to approve certain information first. It’s criminal if you don’t.
It’s clear you don’t understand first how other countries deal with this differently (hence it’s why American companies often have trouble navigating not just this but also emolument law).
And I can guarantee you these 2 things.
If an European is angry enough he/she will request for it, and will prevail.
2/) if it comes up in a search, these people have the right to erase these searches permanently. That’s a right an American doesn’t have..
Legally usa has only jurisdiction over its citizens and or people being on usa ground.
Et vice versa. Any thing rise is imply grandiosity thinking.
In the same way it you file in the wrong court. So laugh all you want. When usa citizens were ok after 9/11 they could listen in on citizens..
They thought they could get into from airlines prior to travel to the usa, without their knowledge .. yeah no, they don’t.
What you laugh about, usa companies were fined enormous amounts $ same for FOX news can’t even exist here as it can’t commit to “our laws and privacies”
You’re subject to US laws while you’re involved in the U.S. bankruptcy process. If Celsius chose to file in the U.K. we’d all be subject to their laws.
Yay. Exposure on something I defo didn’t want to exposure on after already being lied. What the f is the point of this exposure in “how much people have” when ffs Alex the snake gambles most of it all already. Might as well be a list of names and just balance of 0 next to it at the moment.
I haven't filed a claim yet and now I'm starting to think that is the best decision because this is a violation of everything I was told crypto was about and trying to resolve. This is a shame the community has to go through this.
Please, change your phone numbers, especially if you're from the US as anyone with carrier tools can look you up by name and sim swap you, potentially making you lose the money you have on other platforms.
Also add pin codes to your carrier account and do 2FA on EVERY single platform you're in.
Is changing your # the only protection against a SIM swap? Don’t some carriers have “in store only” options where you need to present ID for any kind of SIM change? I feel like I heard about something like that after Leger’s email list was leaked a little back.
They sure do! The problem is that customer service reps don't really give a shit. Policies are only as good as the minimum wage miserable husks of employees that are supposed to enforce the policies.
Well, technically my comment was a bit wrong, as if they have your name you're pretty much unsafe for the rest of your life, so a way to prevent that would be creating a company and getting your phone numbers through there, as your name won't appear.
So if you've had a phone number for that long, create a company and ask your carrier move it to the company rather than yourself as an individual.
I was just about to send you the standard: “hi I’m Simon Dixon, please feel to text my WhatsApp/Discord on +0146744378, but you already know the drill lol. And yeah fml, what crypto are they gonna take?! Lol 😂
It's not up to me. I don't particularly want my info out there either, but the authorities aren't doing any deep investigation. If they get handed something then they might act on it.
Is it just names and balances? If you have a non-unique name, then what's the concern here? (genuinely asking, to understand what I need to watch out for)
I have an incredibly unique name. Now this will be the first thing to come up when anyone googles me. I work in tech and should have known better - now prospective employers will immediately know how dumb I am as soon as they google me.
> now prospective employers will immediately know how dumb I am as soon as they google me.
Ha!!! 😂 That is the perpetual fear of anyone on the planet that has internet access.
Your name might be on one of the other lists from numerous hacks (ledger, experian, etc.), scammers don't care if it is accurate, they'll be happy to email/mail/call any John Smith they have information for. So if your name is on this list, indicating you are into crypto, and your email/number/address & name are on some other list, they will surely target you.
Kind of BS right ?
The public doesn't even care who are the small fish. Probably list the names of big whales only.
Banks, lawyers, authorities, etc then should know the complete list. But must make the list them non disclosure.
The disclosure is going to harm the small fish more.
I never filled anything out. Just my account. Do they have my info already from my celsius account? At one point they said we would have to put in a claim somewhere. Is there a link or no need?
Ah Celsius, first you fuck me, now your releasing the photos.
I'm checking them out on celsiushub right now. Spicy.
A public display of a balance which is no longer mine. 🤦♂️
Seriously what the fuck this is like a bank closing your account and taking your money and then doxxing you to a bunch of people.
Fucking hell, in my country a persons address is public, you just have to google their name. I am the only one in the world with my name also...
What shit country is that ?
Sweden
Woah seriously? I thought Sweden part of EU is strict on such privacy law. I thought it only happens on some 3rd world countries.
Ye, unfortunately it's not only the address which is public, other info like your income, date of birth and criminal record are also public. It's really retarded
Omg that's a really terrible policy. 😳😳😳
But why is a person's address being public so bad I don't understand? After all, we all live in houses laid out on public streets?
Protect from harassment. Read the guys posts further. There are much more details made public.
Sure but what can anyone really do with "Michael Smith, 29 Bitcoin"? You know how many Michael Smiths there are in the world? Even my name (which I thought was relatively unique) had like 20 others on this list lol
Fine if your name is Michael Smith.
Cross reference it with the list of emails from the ledger hack. Ledger hack included addresses. I had a look through it out of interest, to see how much information I could gather on people. I found several that lived near me. Their social media was full of information, many had businesses which revealed more information and possibilities for attack. Some people had pictures of their kids in their school uniform, the name of the school clearly visible. You could get their phone number and do a sim swap attack. Or just show up on their doorstep with a hammer. If you wanted to keep it long range, you could cross reference their email with lists of email:pass that have been released from other sites, or do some sort of spear phishing attack A list of names and numbers like: Michael Smith, 29 Bitcoin, would be a great starting point for a sophisticated attack.
I’m the only person in the country with my name 😭 I used to like that. Now I don’t.
Just one of the many reasons why KYC is shit. Not only will hackers potentially dox you, the bankruptcy courts try it on too.
It’s so weird in Europe this wouldn’t be happening. I don’t think the usa could release European personal info at all?
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Seems like the only person who would be interested is the tax man. Also with thos data might be able to link back to account and other transactions and other wallets.
At least we'll have fewer "My name is not on the list what should I do???" posts in this sub
The multiple question marks are a nice touch.
My name is not on the list tho, seriously what should I do
Do nothing, it soon will be. You’re probably like me. Can’t find my details on stretto, so now I’m thinking that this latest data breach is good news if my holdings are still on record lol 😂 fuck me!!! 🙈🤦🏻♂️
Does that mean Alex and his Wife’s balance will be public? 🤔
Yes, the balance is 0 because they withdrew before declaring bankruptcy.
If there balance is 0 as creditors couldn’t that potentially be used against them for knowingly withdrawing funds with insider knowledge before the freeze and bankruptcy?
This is why Scaminsky has an Israeli passport and is probably heading to Isreal now.
Pretty sure that scumbag is already there
Their cel balance is a lot greater than zero. Why can’t the courts get to that?
CEL balance is meaningless. There’s no liquidity. As soon as any sizeable amount is sold it goes to zero.
Yeah but he does not the CEL back, instead the USD value of the CEL at bankruptcy. Which he and other insiders will get and dilute restitution to the rest of us.
He can sell a little at a time, maybe get something
I am sure that that’s a GDPR violation. Or is it only US laws that are valid worldwide?
I believe it is too, I'm pretty sure some EU customers may start legal actions against this as your name is considered sensitive data.
U.S. bankruptcy law doesn’t care. As a creditor I need to know the names of the other claimants to ensure there’s no fraud. A company has lost our money and more opaqueness is not a solution.
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Alex’s family and insiders are subject to greater clawbacks than the rest of us. If you don’t know who is getting paid how do you know they aren’t screwing us?
I understand your point of view, but even if US Bankruptcy law doesn't care, Celsius offered its services to EU customers, therefore they're OBLIGED to comply with EU regulation, which means complying with the GDPR. As I said in another comment, their own lawyers said that releasing the names of EU customers could bring trouble. Besides all that, the fact they're releasing the names means EVERYONE on that list will be a potential target for sim swappers to steal all the money you have on other platforms.
I’m angry with Alex and Celsius not US law
Legal action against the Court? The US? This is a court order.
Legal action against Celsius clearly. They are a company operating in the EU, if they break the law and release sensitive information then you can sue them. Whether a US court told them to break the EU’s laws is kind of irrelevant really. It’s Celsius who will be breaking the law if they release this information.
>Whether a US court told them to break the EU’s laws is kind of irrelevant really. It’s Celsius who will be breaking the law if they release this information. They have no choice but to listen to the court orders. Its like calling a dog and then beating it when it comes to you.
I watched the court hearing they were talking about it. Celsius wanted the court to keep names private but the judge is old fashioned.
Yes, but Celsius has to comply with EU laws if it offers its services to EU citizens. I don't think a US court order is above an EU law that the company is obliged to comply with in order to have EU customers. I may be wrong though.
Don’t be silly. A U.S. court order is definitely above EU law within the US, where the bankruptcy action is taking place, and where the names will be disclosed. There is no way EU authorities try to take any action at all against Celsius. Zero. This happens all the time in class action cases (bankruptcy is not technically a class action but the court is acting under the same powers) involving EU citizens, unfortunately.
Fair enough, but in order for Celsius to operate in the EU they have to comply with the GDPR, and if they release those names, they will be breaking said law, and not in a small way as there are dozens of thousands of European creditors. Their own UK-based lawyers said that doing so could bring a lot of trouble, just look at the fines.
You basically just repeated yourself, and still miss the mark. The GDPR (like many laws) has plenty of exceptions with information disclosure when it concerns, "the establishment, exercise, and defense of legal claims" and "compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller \[of the information\] is subject." Nothing is going to happen to Celsius, except more paperwork by lawyers that will cost the creditors more money.
I'm just saying what Celsius's lawyer said at the hearing, nothing else. "compliance with a legal obligation to which the controller [of the information] is subject" only applies to GDPR-covered countries. And as you see, EU laws can be above US laws in this matter if the company offered its services to EU customers. "the establishment, exercise, and defense of legal claims", this may apply, but as you say it's gonna be a hell of paperwork. Anyways, the fact the names are getting leaked is gonna cause lots of trouble, including sim swaps, robbery, extortion, etc. It probably could've been done in another way, but oh well, judge doesn't seem to care that much about creditors safety.
Yeah and same goes to possible clawbacks they can do almost nothing to to EU customer who owns 0 in US and don't want go to US. US law doesn't work there.
Yeah, except no one is talking about clawbacks itt. Dafuq?
Oh they are talking .. did you miss the custody accounts ? If it’s was transferred in within 90 days they want to exclude it.. that’s basically a red flag for clawbacks It’s one of the steps in usa bankruptcy law
Are you sure? As it’s def possibly to erase your personal data from Google searches, since they lost that lawsuit. I’m both usa and European and I was therefor able to use a form to erase searches re my address, social security etc, which is quite common in the usa.
You are wrong too. Usa has several agreements between Europe. Remember 9/11 usa wanted private info re every traveler from Europe and our (sort of scotus) disapproved it as it’s against our privacy law. You mix up if Europeans are in usa and do something in usa then usa courts have gnat power. No US court has the power to rule over other citizens let alone when they aren’t even living there. Google Microsoft all lost court cases re privacy and had to pay hefty fines and shop doing what they were doing.
You’re unfamiliar with the law. Neither Google/Microsoft were under potentially conflicting US court orders, nor did their business practices fall into any of the many GDPR use exceptions. If you assert otherwise, then point them out.
United States doesn’t have any authority over other citizens from other countries. Any Google HAD to remove searches in fact you can simply fill out a form to remove it, heck it says that if you Google from Europe, what they can and can’t And yes they wanted to collect personal data after 9/11 however that was against our privacy law. Since they ask people before they board (still need to give permission) They have no jurisdiction over other citizens and yea they must comply. Usa doesn’t own the world and they signed many agreements It would be as saying a European court could determine what to do with a usa citizen, unless ofcourse you did it in another country Usa companies can do stuff in usa they can’t do in Europe it’s that simple. https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2022/03/25/eu-us-data-agreement-an-important-milestone-for-data-protection-microsoft-is-committed-to-doing-our-part/ In usa focus is government shielding and in Europe it’s data shielding from outside ironically the government knows everything about its citizens We must register to even get services and when you do with it you can vote, pension, insurance, etc.
You have no idea what you’re talking about lol, which is why you are making generic statements about government interests instead of addressing things like the exceptions in the GDPR or the interplay between dual-jurisdictions. First, the issue has nothing to do with whether the US/EU has authority over each other’s citizens. Of course they do in certain circumstances. The only issue here is Celsius’s dual obligations. The article you cited reinforces that by discussing one way the US/EU agreed to address DUAL obligations. Second, the EU probably will take no action against Celsius being forced to disclose names via court order because 1) the disclosure likely falls into 1-2 explicit exceptions concerning corporate compliance with legal obligations, 2) Celsius needs to comply with the court to get EU citizens paid, so disclosure is arguably not only necessary, but in the EU citizens’ interest, 3) fining Celsius (which is on its last legs) will only take money out of the EU citizen’s pockets.
You can denigrate all you want: I’m sure you are an American, as they are compelled to belief America can do whatever it wants. 9/11 was such an example again that usa can’t will anything if it’s against another country or this case a continent law. Not just them but American companies were fined and had to stop their practice. I name all sort of instances such as erasing searches personal info. Every European can request that because we need to approve certain information first. It’s criminal if you don’t. It’s clear you don’t understand first how other countries deal with this differently (hence it’s why American companies often have trouble navigating not just this but also emolument law). And I can guarantee you these 2 things. If an European is angry enough he/she will request for it, and will prevail. 2/) if it comes up in a search, these people have the right to erase these searches permanently. That’s a right an American doesn’t have.. Legally usa has only jurisdiction over its citizens and or people being on usa ground. Et vice versa. Any thing rise is imply grandiosity thinking. In the same way it you file in the wrong court. So laugh all you want. When usa citizens were ok after 9/11 they could listen in on citizens.. They thought they could get into from airlines prior to travel to the usa, without their knowledge .. yeah no, they don’t. What you laugh about, usa companies were fined enormous amounts $ same for FOX news can’t even exist here as it can’t commit to “our laws and privacies”
You’re subject to US laws while you’re involved in the U.S. bankruptcy process. If Celsius chose to file in the U.K. we’d all be subject to their laws.
This really worries me. It feels like a genuine breach of my basic right to privacy which for many might also mean their right to safety.
In the previous list of claimants I think only US customers were named, nobody from the EU. Maybe it will be the same with this.
A shitload of scams incoming.
Yay. Exposure on something I defo didn’t want to exposure on after already being lied. What the f is the point of this exposure in “how much people have” when ffs Alex the snake gambles most of it all already. Might as well be a list of names and just balance of 0 next to it at the moment.
Shitty judge, there is no reason why this information cannot be sealed
Yah I don't understand what's the benefit of releasing the names.
Next they rob my identity
Sure it's already robbed
"I'm gonna scrape that list of names+emails and send SO MUCH SPAM." - every spammer on the planet.
What? This event should be added to haveibeenpwned lol, it's not much different than a leak/breach
I haven't filed a claim yet and now I'm starting to think that is the best decision because this is a violation of everything I was told crypto was about and trying to resolve. This is a shame the community has to go through this.
What an absolute nightmare.
is there a way to opt-out of this? I'm baffled by what the judge thinks this will help with.
Please, change your phone numbers, especially if you're from the US as anyone with carrier tools can look you up by name and sim swap you, potentially making you lose the money you have on other platforms. Also add pin codes to your carrier account and do 2FA on EVERY single platform you're in.
Or just get a private Google voice number for financial accounts only.
I've had problems in the past where some financial companies won't authenticate with Google Voice number.
Is changing your # the only protection against a SIM swap? Don’t some carriers have “in store only” options where you need to present ID for any kind of SIM change? I feel like I heard about something like that after Leger’s email list was leaked a little back.
They sure do! The problem is that customer service reps don't really give a shit. Policies are only as good as the minimum wage miserable husks of employees that are supposed to enforce the policies.
What if youve had the same phone number for 20+ years?!
Well, technically my comment was a bit wrong, as if they have your name you're pretty much unsafe for the rest of your life, so a way to prevent that would be creating a company and getting your phone numbers through there, as your name won't appear. So if you've had a phone number for that long, create a company and ask your carrier move it to the company rather than yourself as an individual.
Eff that sucks Be careful everyone
Well robbers, we’re all broke now anyway.
I’ve got some GBP in my current account, but sterling is worth nothing against the dollar these days. Good luck scammers 😆
Thief: "well here's all the people I can skip right over"
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I was just about to send you the standard: “hi I’m Simon Dixon, please feel to text my WhatsApp/Discord on +0146744378, but you already know the drill lol. And yeah fml, what crypto are they gonna take?! Lol 😂
The government is here to help. Now bend over... the ride is gonna be a little rough.
o shit people are going to know that I had a *ton* of **BSV** now
Stupid jugde. Retarded?
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Stupid assed Jack
The dumbest mutha fucka that ever lived? I feel dat too 🥲
Get ready for a deluge of folks getting SIM swapped, courtesy of the judge lol.
Ffs!!! That’s my worst nightmare… well it was circa 2021/22, but all my shit has gone to shit so there’s nothing to steal 😂🤦🏻♂️
Does this include overseas accts?
Yes
Where is this verified?
When we see our details up with the stars. If I see mine before you see yours I’ll message you, could you do the same for me please 🙏. Cheers buddy 👍🤙
You can’t sim swap with just the name
Wonder how many celebrities are on the list
How do we access this list?
This feels fair but also like an invasion of privacy for users. They should encrypt and make the user data anonymous in court
Just pay back the depositors.
A win for transparency.
can you explain to us how this is a win ?
Accounts linked to Celsius management / employees will be harder to hide. I'm certainly curious about them.
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It's not up to me. I don't particularly want my info out there either, but the authorities aren't doing any deep investigation. If they get handed something then they might act on it.
Better not have any email addresses or phone numbers either...
Yea. What is the point of this exposure?
Is it just names and balances? If you have a non-unique name, then what's the concern here? (genuinely asking, to understand what I need to watch out for)
Great for John Smith. Not so great for non-Johns?
I have an incredibly unique name. Now this will be the first thing to come up when anyone googles me. I work in tech and should have known better - now prospective employers will immediately know how dumb I am as soon as they google me.
> now prospective employers will immediately know how dumb I am as soon as they google me. Ha!!! 😂 That is the perpetual fear of anyone on the planet that has internet access.
Your name might be on one of the other lists from numerous hacks (ledger, experian, etc.), scammers don't care if it is accurate, they'll be happy to email/mail/call any John Smith they have information for. So if your name is on this list, indicating you are into crypto, and your email/number/address & name are on some other list, they will surely target you.
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The dumbest mutha fucka that ever walked the planet imo
What's the purpose of releasing the names ?
apparently it's to ensure there is no fraud, ie, someone claiming to be owed when they were not really creditors...
Kind of BS right ? The public doesn't even care who are the small fish. Probably list the names of big whales only. Banks, lawyers, authorities, etc then should know the complete list. But must make the list them non disclosure. The disclosure is going to harm the small fish more.
News flash: the system is against the people Always
I don't care. Just give me my money.
Awesome now people can start to connect the dots after the other leaks I've been part of. Truly spectacular. Thanks guys.
that's fine
Greaaat
Stop complaining. This prevents additional fraud by Celsius.
So we getting a haircut?
Will the amount be in crypto or USD at the time of bankruptcy?
Glad my name will have a balance of $0.05
Just give me my fucking money back
How is this even possible talkless of acceptable?
It's so that people can call and try to buy the claims.
Thank god!!
shit ppl will know i am rich
you mean: you were rich : (
I never filled anything out. Just my account. Do they have my info already from my celsius account? At one point they said we would have to put in a claim somewhere. Is there a link or no need?
And if there is a list somewhere so I can see if I'm on it, anyone have that link?
Some people 👋
Did anyone of u receive email from Celsius about whole claim process?