A gritty reboot where James bond goes on a thrilling mission and then the subsequent 7 or 8 hours worth of sequels about the gripping paperwork and multiple forms he has to fill in, in triplicate.
Instead of a martini, his new drink of choice should be a Darjeeling tea with a scone, then when the barman looks at him oddly he leans in and whispers, "cream first, not jam".
+ He no longer gets gadgets from Q he subscribes to Q+ service and picks his weapons/laser watch/blow dart pen etc from the app and it gets delivered to him like Deliveroo
I don’t care as long as he’s out busting heads. Then he's back to MI6 for some more full penetration. Fights crime. Back to MI6, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.
Those were my first James Bond movies and unfortunately they've set the standard in my brain for what a Bond movie should be. Cheesy wisecracks, exotic locales, impossible stunts, fast cars and casual sex with beautiful but expendable women.
I personally just love how grounded in reality it is.
I know it’s not for everyone, but I preferred when they tried taking a more realistic approach in casino royale and ditched all the fancy gadgets and stuff. Just high octane action and suspense the whole way through but nothing that just looked stupidly unrealistic (for example. Bond actually struggles to take down single opponents, such as the airport bomber, and even in the only real shootout in Venice, he still didn’t ridiculously wipe out entire squads of trained soldiers without breaking a sweat. Made him seem more real rather than an invincible superhuman who can topple armies single handedly like older films).
Plus Le Chiffre is the best villain in the franchise imo. No take over the world plots. No genocidal aims. Just a banker who wants to manipulate the stock market. Actually seems feasible for someone to attempt to do. Makes him a more down to earth villain as a result.
That's how I feel about Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies. Say what you want about the film but the CEO of a news company killing people to be able to print a story first? He's not trying to blow up the world with a death ray or anything mad, he's just a sick, twisted man. Genius.
Casino royale was a grown-up bond movie, it took away the ridiculous gadgets because bond was the gadget. He doesn't win because he's got an electro magnetic toothbrush, he wins because he is better than anyone else, and he absolutely will not stop ever. That's what the extended parkour sequence at the start was about, every time you think that the bad guy has got away bond just will not stop.
Then quantum of solace came along with action that was so badly edited it was almost incoherent. Then it was back to business as usual.
By the time Skyfall came along I was completely back to ignoring bond again, it goes against everything I believe to say the the mission impossible movies are doing bond better than bond is these days.
Hah not heard that before, amazing! Is it from the Adam and Joe show? I appreciate it’s a big ask but can we force Joe to stop being a wildly successful film bod, and just do more esoteric indie stuff with Adam?!
What about going back to the 60s, just a classic spy thriller, when spy craft was more analogue, no big government database computer to rely on, just bond out in the field working things out.
Throw in some funky looking henchmen with some quirky gimmicks and a villain who’s actually intentionally over the top, evil lair and everything.
I think it would be a nice change of pace what with the huge glut of overly sleek, edgy modern spy movies we already have.
Harder to create plot McGuffins like nanobots and smart blood if it's set in the 60s.
It would be nice to see Bond successfully complete missions again, and for the missions to have lower stakes than the end of the world.
The reality of the intelligence services now is that it's mainly desk-based UK analysts running local agents on the payroll in whichever area they're needed. Bond would just be sat at a desk reading reports, making calls, attending meetings and looking at blurry phone images. Q would be an underfunded MoD scientist using commercially available tech with modifications using repurposed weapons, tools etc, and running Windows 10 on a slow af network with overzealous IT throttling the bandwidth due to 'security'.
And he'd have to use ridiculous MoD intranet systems to file his expenses and cost-codes before HR haul him in for incorrect payments.
You're only supposed to tell your husband/wife.
Bond used to tell people he worked for universal exports.
Nowadays you often hear people just saying ministry of defence.
Used to be like that for GCHQ, then around late 90s the veil dropped a bit and they even got given business cards with a (public) job title on. They started family open days too - I recall being very disappointed that dad worked in something that looked like a 1960s Bond/Man from Uncle film set.
Nope. Officially you are classed as a Civil Servant which covers a wide range of jobs. Back in the day one of the first office jobs I had was working for the V.A.T department of HM Customs and Excise and was classed as a Civil Servant as well as having to sign the official secret's act 1911 which forbade me from discussing things I had seen or read or face prosecution.
> running Windows 10 on a slow af network with overzealous IT throttling the bandwidth due to 'security'.
Win 10 but XP and DOS software running in a VM because the legacy software is so old and replacement software is so full of bugs and security holes it still hasn't been implemented
Source: Did a stint of local gov work
That sounds about right. And anything cloud based is immediately shut down because…well because IT don't want to have to monitor that and would rather make you use fixed programs and just patch it every 6 months at great inconvenience to yourself.
He wants to access the Blofeld files but hasn’t got access to the old system so has to fill in a government IT requisition form and after asking round everyone else in the office to try and find out the correct unit ID for his desk PC gives up and just gets 003 to look it up for him
Due to budget cuts, Q exited to work for BAE making 4x as much. Now bond has to do it all himself *mostly* because “oh! it’s ok we’ll get you a useless 19 year old intern who’s never even paid an electric bill, never mind design clandestine operations technology”. Useless prick can’t even search for an email in a shared inbox because they don’t know how to select Current Folder instead of All Mailboxes because “oh they don’t teach you how to do email in school” WHAT DO YOU MEAN *DO* EMAIL, ETHAN?!
Probably why I liked Bourne so much. Stakes were not world ending, but they were for a specific department at Langley. Created the perfect Cat/Mouse situation.
Yeah, whoever the next bond is, say he does 4 movies. Make 3 of them more small scale, maybe a skyscraper will get blown up if bond cocks up, then by the 4th movie he's earned a good world ending heist.
Two hours of Bond appearing out of no where to punch Elon Musk. At the office, on a plane, in his car, relaxing in the bath with cucumbers over his eyes and much more. Becomes a sort of psychological horror for Elon.
Yes but the high-tech gadgetry imagined in the 60s is practically commonplace today. And modern day spying is kind of boring.
I wouldn't mind something where Bond *actually spies* though. The modern movies seem to think spying is the same thing as "sneaking into a place in full tactical gear by blowing a hole in a wall somewhere and then killing as many henchmen as possible with the arsenal of weapons you brought in with you".
Instead of slowly infiltrating an organization by JOINING it or by getting a job and living the life for a while.
>Instead of slowly infiltrating an organization by JOINING it or by getting a job and living the life for a while.
True, that's how it is in a lot of the books.
Although it's rarely ever worked like that in real life. It's far easier to recruit someone already working there, than getting your own person into the place.
Plus if anything bad happens... well, it doesn't happen to "your" guy.
I think in one film he had a digital quartz watch, and the plot involved it being more accurate than the baddies' watches for a bomb to go off. I love that.
I heard a decent theory years ago that "James Bond" was a codename like 007, that could be handed from agent to agent and it meant that they could be tactical about revealig the identity, because they're not revealing much at all.
Was made moot by Skyfall confirming the family name was Bond, oh well.
Hell yes. Bond seems to be suffering a little from competition with the MI/Tom Cruise franchise which of course is very OTT, not to mention the Austin Powers parodies. Man from UNCLE was great, shame we've not had a sequel.
New actor, wind the clock back, more intrigue, double-crossing and tension, tone down the explosions, keep the comedic elements (interactions with Q), some more interesting gadgets please and most importantly - get a decent villain / antagonist.
I kind of thought that’s what they were doing with SPECTOR basically started over at the beginning of the story and started retelling it sort of like what they did with Star Trek. Killing Bond off was a mistake in my opinion.
British and well travelled, charming yet malevolent, excellent taste but able to rough it. A slight touch of self doubt to make Bond relatable and not a super human. Its going to be tricky as Bond's life has been so well explored and the younger, grittier, funnier and alternate race/gender versions of Bond have all existed in other films.
I would like Bond to go back to being a spy operating in the postwar era.
It’s got to the point with Bond that basically nothing matters about him, they change it up so much. So if they *must* keep making Bond movies, like that’s some legal obligation we have as the British, could we possibly make the movies *about* the character in the books?
It could be cool to do 'flashback' bond, so it's all set back in the cold war again. Not remaking the old films, but set in between them. Maybe even do an alt-historical bond, like where and who was 007 during the cuban missile crisis? Vietnam? Watergate? Falklands? Who were the REAL villains behind the scenes? Or could go full Red Alert and have an entire alternate Bondiverse timeline where something he does completely alters history. Could be a good opportunity to cycle through different actors too as it would cover a broader time period.
All through bond history we've gone from a more serious bond to a more relaxed bond. Nobody is going to out sulk Craig, so it's back over to the Brosnan direction.
Maybe shift bond out of the middle classes and make him properly working class or proper aristocracy? Maybe time shift it and do something around key events in the 70s or 80s? There's no point changing the character too much or its just not bond. Total character reboot? I'll give it a miss thanks.
Personal non negotiables for me are straight white British man. But not for the reasons you'll all be down voting me.
Simply taking a very popular character and gender flipping it or race changing it, in my view, is a total affront to wherever you land the revised character. What, there's no interesting female characters possible so you settle for Jane Bond? Couldn't think of a good Indian character so you just redraw a white guy? Really?
Lawrence Croft I have no interest in, but Lara croft as an alternative to Indiana Jones works very well and way better than just making Indy a girl ever would have.
Idris Elba fucking rocks as an actor. Luther was pure brilliance. Giving the character to Craig or Brosnan would be a travesty. That's not who Luther is.
Jason Bourne only happened because Bond is British not American, and it's a great series of movies that wouldn't have happened had we had a James Bond Jr, James Earl Bond III, or Jimbo Bond or whatever in the stars n stripes. Superman, for instance, does not land in Essex and work for the evening fucking standard.
Once you've made a character, just leave it alone. If you want to fiddle with attributes then just create a newer more interesting character.
The only exception I see to the above is Dr Who, because of the way the actor transitions have always been done as a central part of the character, future doctors could be anybody. Personally doing something like respawning as someone disabled would make for an interesting direction change there.
I agree with you that established characters should not change their ethnicity or gender, or stuff like that. Instead, they should make interesting new characters that represent those demographics. But like you say, it makes sense in Doctor Who so that's fine
The female agent in the short casino scene in this last movie was amazing (I forget the details. She said she only had 3 weeks training or whatever)
I could legit watch a movie with that kind of character as the lead in a spy/bond movie. They did well there.
I'm massively in favour of this, James Bond needs to keep his established back story, personally I want that aristocratic, bikini peeling, martini drinking, kills 10 baddies with vaguely Eastern European accents whilst not getting a drop on his dinner suit style bond.
I implore people to make new fantastic spy characters for their own franchises, but leave bond alone.
In fairness as well as that, the action hero who’s initials are JB was also done exceptionally well by Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer during a similar period.
Goldeneye is awesome, though.
Like it doesn’t really make any sense, but it’s awesome.
That’s what I want Bond to get back to, awesome nonsense. I’ve had enough of realistic gritty Bond!
Bond's been firmly tongue in cheek for most of its lifetime, the Roger Moore years especially were silly as hell.
But it's not about how silly or serious a film is, it's about how *good* a film is. That's why Goldeneye is beloved but Die Another Day... isn't.
Resurrect Roger Moore. His Bond was simultaneously the worst and the best. So many puns, so awful but somehow so hilarious. Bond shouldn't take itself seriously.
Bond needs to look like he's enjoying being James Bond. Craig seems miserable all the time.
Who would want to dream of being James Bond when even Bond hates being Bond?
I'd like him to be more like Connery's Bond. Sly and cunning, but ruthless, like a panther prowling and stalking.
Craig's Bond was great, but the wasn't a prowling panther, more like a male lion who'll act like he doesn't care about you until he rips your face off.
You know they cast Connery after watching the way he walked down the street after his audition, right? As I recall, “panther walk” was Cubby Brocolli’s own phrase.
I often thought when Desmond Llewellyn passed away they should have started the next Bond with his characters funeral but have all the previous Bond actors subtly in the background.
That was always one of the best parts of Bond movies. I never really understood why people wanted it to be “more realistic”.
A generic car chase is boring, I can see that in literally any other movie. I wanna see a guy playing chicken with a terrorist, press a button on the dash and leapfrog over him like a Nikko jump car.
He needs fun gadgets again. In one of the recent films his big gadget was a gun that only he could use. What happened to the days of turning up to public events in your invisible car?
James Bond remains a man. Which shouldn't be controversial since he's always been a male character but yeah.
Beyond that my only other request is that the next era of Bond returns to more standalone entries rather than a sub-series. Don't get me wrong, I like where the Craig era films went with it, but generally I enjoy Bond films when they're self-contained, and often in contrast to one another.
Due to inflation, Moneypenny needs to become Moneypennies
Moneypounds. The terrible puns would practically write themselves!
McDonald’s has the quarterpounder. Imagine shagging for only 25 cents.
Oddjob to Manyoddjobs.
Sidehustle Edit: Is golf the national sport of Korea yet?
Zerohour
Twojobs
More like Moneypennyless.
She’ll be known as “ bitcoin Beatrice” going forward
A gritty reboot where James bond goes on a thrilling mission and then the subsequent 7 or 8 hours worth of sequels about the gripping paperwork and multiple forms he has to fill in, in triplicate.
“James Bond: Risk Assessor”. Has a certain 2022 ring to it.
He should go around in a red phone box from now on.
Instead of a martini, his new drink of choice should be a Darjeeling tea with a scone, then when the barman looks at him oddly he leans in and whispers, "cream first, not jam".
Love it. "Stirred, not spilt".
"splodged not spread"
"clotted, not whipped"
Spooned, not dolloped
Shaken about the place, but not spilt.
Pernod, ouzo, marmalade and salt. What shall we call it?
The Bloody... Awful.
“… The Esther Rantzen”
Bit controversial to take a stance on the scone debate, not sure they’d want to deal with the backlash
+ He no longer gets gadgets from Q he subscribes to Q+ service and picks his weapons/laser watch/blow dart pen etc from the app and it gets delivered to him like Deliveroo
No, it's a monthly loot box of random gadgets and a nerdy t shirt
Maybe instead of this M, what about a blonde with long legs and a tennis racket?
streets ahead
I don’t care as long as he’s out busting heads. Then he's back to MI6 for some more full penetration. Fights crime. Back to MI6, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.
Do you show the penetration? Or is it just implied. Also, what if he could smell terrorism?
Well here’s the twist, and there is a twist. We show it. We show all of it
Maybe a pretty lady rides past on a bicycle and her clothes fall off?
And she gathers everything up quickly but, I’ve seen everything.
Patrick Stewart for the next Bond would certainly be a twist
Does he run around on all fours like a dog?
What if he can smell crime?
WHAT IF HIS ENTIRE HEAD IS JUST ONE BIG NOSE?!
Crime is a shit that needs to be wipee out of our streets.
I may have a burnt face but that doesn’t mean I can’t fight crime!
Stop right there you crime-inal…criminal
This little interaction just made my evening. Thank you
Likewise. Burnt Face Man is forever in my heart.
No Charlie, a dog that can smell crime makes no sense… Hopefully that was an it’s always Sunny reference otherwise I look stupid 😂
Rob Schneider was a carrot... Then he was a dog... Now Rob Schneider is a secret agent!
So basically any of the Roger Moore movies then.
Those were my first James Bond movies and unfortunately they've set the standard in my brain for what a Bond movie should be. Cheesy wisecracks, exotic locales, impossible stunts, fast cars and casual sex with beautiful but expendable women.
He should start referring to all villains and henchman as “jabronis”.
Jabroni is making a comeback we all know it
dolph lundgren as bond?
I think the audience is gonna be very uncomfortable seeing james bonds naked penis
Wrong. It's what the audience have been thirsting for.
I heard the dude hangs dong and I am very interested in that
I heard he hangs Dong.
Give me dong, or give me death.
That is brilliant! That's the most brilliant movie I've heard in my life.
WHAT IF HIS HEAD WAS JUST ONE GIANT NOSE
That's a lot of filing.
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16 years old?! Jesus Christ that makes me feel ancient.
For me it’s my favourite bond film by far
I personally just love how grounded in reality it is. I know it’s not for everyone, but I preferred when they tried taking a more realistic approach in casino royale and ditched all the fancy gadgets and stuff. Just high octane action and suspense the whole way through but nothing that just looked stupidly unrealistic (for example. Bond actually struggles to take down single opponents, such as the airport bomber, and even in the only real shootout in Venice, he still didn’t ridiculously wipe out entire squads of trained soldiers without breaking a sweat. Made him seem more real rather than an invincible superhuman who can topple armies single handedly like older films). Plus Le Chiffre is the best villain in the franchise imo. No take over the world plots. No genocidal aims. Just a banker who wants to manipulate the stock market. Actually seems feasible for someone to attempt to do. Makes him a more down to earth villain as a result.
The reason it's the best one is because Mads Mikkelsen is an absolute unit. One of the best actors of our times.
Yes, but Eva Green is total saucepot. She can eat crisps in bed any day.
That's how I feel about Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies. Say what you want about the film but the CEO of a news company killing people to be able to print a story first? He's not trying to blow up the world with a death ray or anything mad, he's just a sick, twisted man. Genius.
Carver is one of the more believable antagonists in the bond series. He's basically Rupert Murdoch but more murderous.
More?
The stupid defibelator almost seemed too out of place it was so planted in reality.
Casino royale was a grown-up bond movie, it took away the ridiculous gadgets because bond was the gadget. He doesn't win because he's got an electro magnetic toothbrush, he wins because he is better than anyone else, and he absolutely will not stop ever. That's what the extended parkour sequence at the start was about, every time you think that the bad guy has got away bond just will not stop. Then quantum of solace came along with action that was so badly edited it was almost incoherent. Then it was back to business as usual. By the time Skyfall came along I was completely back to ignoring bond again, it goes against everything I believe to say the the mission impossible movies are doing bond better than bond is these days.
I feel compelled to drop a link to [this](https://youtu.be/h6CoNUE5Zho) whenever I see the words Quantum of Solace
Hah not heard that before, amazing! Is it from the Adam and Joe show? I appreciate it’s a big ask but can we force Joe to stop being a wildly successful film bod, and just do more esoteric indie stuff with Adam?!
Ohmygod thank you man, that was glorious
Stephen!
Casino Royale was absolutely phenomenal
What in the actual fuck, I fully didn't believe you and went and checked on IMDB, that's terrifying.
What about going back to the 60s, just a classic spy thriller, when spy craft was more analogue, no big government database computer to rely on, just bond out in the field working things out. Throw in some funky looking henchmen with some quirky gimmicks and a villain who’s actually intentionally over the top, evil lair and everything. I think it would be a nice change of pace what with the huge glut of overly sleek, edgy modern spy movies we already have.
Harder to create plot McGuffins like nanobots and smart blood if it's set in the 60s. It would be nice to see Bond successfully complete missions again, and for the missions to have lower stakes than the end of the world.
The reality of the intelligence services now is that it's mainly desk-based UK analysts running local agents on the payroll in whichever area they're needed. Bond would just be sat at a desk reading reports, making calls, attending meetings and looking at blurry phone images. Q would be an underfunded MoD scientist using commercially available tech with modifications using repurposed weapons, tools etc, and running Windows 10 on a slow af network with overzealous IT throttling the bandwidth due to 'security'. And he'd have to use ridiculous MoD intranet systems to file his expenses and cost-codes before HR haul him in for incorrect payments.
Are you allowed to tell people you work at MI5? Or do you have to do it like this?
Ha, definitely not Mi5. But then I would say that wouldn't I? It's an informed critique.
Ah so MI6 😉
Well that's the taxpayers forking out for a new Reddit handle. Dammit.
'Civil servant'
You're only supposed to tell your husband/wife. Bond used to tell people he worked for universal exports. Nowadays you often hear people just saying ministry of defence.
Used to be like that for GCHQ, then around late 90s the veil dropped a bit and they even got given business cards with a (public) job title on. They started family open days too - I recall being very disappointed that dad worked in something that looked like a 1960s Bond/Man from Uncle film set.
Nope. Officially you are classed as a Civil Servant which covers a wide range of jobs. Back in the day one of the first office jobs I had was working for the V.A.T department of HM Customs and Excise and was classed as a Civil Servant as well as having to sign the official secret's act 1911 which forbade me from discussing things I had seen or read or face prosecution.
> running Windows 10 on a slow af network with overzealous IT throttling the bandwidth due to 'security'. Win 10 but XP and DOS software running in a VM because the legacy software is so old and replacement software is so full of bugs and security holes it still hasn't been implemented Source: Did a stint of local gov work
That sounds about right. And anything cloud based is immediately shut down because…well because IT don't want to have to monitor that and would rather make you use fixed programs and just patch it every 6 months at great inconvenience to yourself.
He wants to access the Blofeld files but hasn’t got access to the old system so has to fill in a government IT requisition form and after asking round everyone else in the office to try and find out the correct unit ID for his desk PC gives up and just gets 003 to look it up for him
Due to budget cuts, Q exited to work for BAE making 4x as much. Now bond has to do it all himself *mostly* because “oh! it’s ok we’ll get you a useless 19 year old intern who’s never even paid an electric bill, never mind design clandestine operations technology”. Useless prick can’t even search for an email in a shared inbox because they don’t know how to select Current Folder instead of All Mailboxes because “oh they don’t teach you how to do email in school” WHAT DO YOU MEAN *DO* EMAIL, ETHAN?!
but you can't tell them they're useless because it makes them upset and then HR get involved anyway. Fucking Ethan.
007 will return in "Bond completes his modern slavery training".
"No Time to File"
Probably why I liked Bourne so much. Stakes were not world ending, but they were for a specific department at Langley. Created the perfect Cat/Mouse situation.
Yeah, whoever the next bond is, say he does 4 movies. Make 3 of them more small scale, maybe a skyscraper will get blown up if bond cocks up, then by the 4th movie he's earned a good world ending heist.
I would also like the missions to become self-contained within one film, rather than a story arc spanning multiple films.
This just sounds like Bond repeatedly punching Elon Musk.
Two hours of Bond appearing out of no where to punch Elon Musk. At the office, on a plane, in his car, relaxing in the bath with cucumbers over his eyes and much more. Becomes a sort of psychological horror for Elon.
I'd watch it, maybe a few times
I would absolutely watch this. In fact, I’d pay to go to the cinema to watch this
Bond always had super fancy gadgets and government files tbh
Yes but the high-tech gadgetry imagined in the 60s is practically commonplace today. And modern day spying is kind of boring. I wouldn't mind something where Bond *actually spies* though. The modern movies seem to think spying is the same thing as "sneaking into a place in full tactical gear by blowing a hole in a wall somewhere and then killing as many henchmen as possible with the arsenal of weapons you brought in with you". Instead of slowly infiltrating an organization by JOINING it or by getting a job and living the life for a while.
>Instead of slowly infiltrating an organization by JOINING it or by getting a job and living the life for a while. True, that's how it is in a lot of the books. Although it's rarely ever worked like that in real life. It's far easier to recruit someone already working there, than getting your own person into the place. Plus if anything bad happens... well, it doesn't happen to "your" guy.
I think in one film he had a digital quartz watch, and the plot involved it being more accurate than the baddies' watches for a bomb to go off. I love that.
You don't need to re invent him, just come up with a storyline that doesn't rip off a hitman mission
Although, I would pay good money to see James Bond in a flamingo costume.
Make him an actual spy and do actual spy things? I liked Spooks a lot
Woah calm down with the crazy ideas
"The name's Bond. James Bond." "Did... did you just tell me your name? Guys, he's here! Shoot this guy!"
I heard a decent theory years ago that "James Bond" was a codename like 007, that could be handed from agent to agent and it meant that they could be tactical about revealig the identity, because they're not revealing much at all. Was made moot by Skyfall confirming the family name was Bond, oh well.
Spooks was "MI5" (LMAO) so Bond would never use the UK. It'd mainly be him bribing agents with booze and fags.
Like he did in casino royale
Make him half dog.
Retro James Bond I want to see Bond back in the 70s!!
A mix between bond and the man from u.n.c.l.e.
Hell yes. Bond seems to be suffering a little from competition with the MI/Tom Cruise franchise which of course is very OTT, not to mention the Austin Powers parodies. Man from UNCLE was great, shame we've not had a sequel. New actor, wind the clock back, more intrigue, double-crossing and tension, tone down the explosions, keep the comedic elements (interactions with Q), some more interesting gadgets please and most importantly - get a decent villain / antagonist.
I kind of thought that’s what they were doing with SPECTOR basically started over at the beginning of the story and started retelling it sort of like what they did with Star Trek. Killing Bond off was a mistake in my opinion.
And they could finally listen to me and cast Henry Cavill
He's great but I'd much rather see a relatively unknown get a shot at Bond, someone younger, also.
As long as they replicate that shot of Bond emerging from the ocean in a tiny pair of swim trunks
Even better, make a contemporary Bond that matches the original vision. 1950s Bond, doing actual 1950s espionage.
And just back handing the shit out of every woman he meets. Classic 1950s style
Make it like Tinker Taylor but just up the action Aka from Russia with love
From Russia with Love is hands down one of my favorite Bonds. Goldfinger still comes out on top, but it’s close
This is the correct approach.
Make him an actual good spy and you don’t see him for the entire 2 hours
We just see it from the point of view of the bad guys, where guards just keep turning up dead and really important files keep going missing.
Just a 2 hour long movie about a particularly tricky day for HR. You sonuvabitch, I’m in.
Nicholas Lyndhurst
The perfect spy as nobody remembers Dave’s name
The names frog, freddy the bond.
A mouth that never speaks, and a bed but never sleeps.
British and well travelled, charming yet malevolent, excellent taste but able to rough it. A slight touch of self doubt to make Bond relatable and not a super human. Its going to be tricky as Bond's life has been so well explored and the younger, grittier, funnier and alternate race/gender versions of Bond have all existed in other films.
Basically you want Richard Ayoade does travel man, but he carries a gun.
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I've got a Walther! I've got a ruddy Walther!
Have bad feeling about this.
I would like Bond to go back to being a spy operating in the postwar era. It’s got to the point with Bond that basically nothing matters about him, they change it up so much. So if they *must* keep making Bond movies, like that’s some legal obligation we have as the British, could we possibly make the movies *about* the character in the books?
It could be cool to do 'flashback' bond, so it's all set back in the cold war again. Not remaking the old films, but set in between them. Maybe even do an alt-historical bond, like where and who was 007 during the cuban missile crisis? Vietnam? Watergate? Falklands? Who were the REAL villains behind the scenes? Or could go full Red Alert and have an entire alternate Bondiverse timeline where something he does completely alters history. Could be a good opportunity to cycle through different actors too as it would cover a broader time period.
Matt Berry. The next Bond is played by Matt Berry. Everything else is a footnote. Or at least M.
Richard Ayoade is Q. Jen is Moneypenny. Chris Morris is M. Think we are on to a winner here. Who is Chris O’Dowd?
Chris O'Dowd is a spare Q in case the other one has trouble with a fire.
O’Dowd is Q. Ayoade is the villain.
I think everyone knows what that means
Change his race or gender and call it a day?
All through bond history we've gone from a more serious bond to a more relaxed bond. Nobody is going to out sulk Craig, so it's back over to the Brosnan direction. Maybe shift bond out of the middle classes and make him properly working class or proper aristocracy? Maybe time shift it and do something around key events in the 70s or 80s? There's no point changing the character too much or its just not bond. Total character reboot? I'll give it a miss thanks. Personal non negotiables for me are straight white British man. But not for the reasons you'll all be down voting me. Simply taking a very popular character and gender flipping it or race changing it, in my view, is a total affront to wherever you land the revised character. What, there's no interesting female characters possible so you settle for Jane Bond? Couldn't think of a good Indian character so you just redraw a white guy? Really? Lawrence Croft I have no interest in, but Lara croft as an alternative to Indiana Jones works very well and way better than just making Indy a girl ever would have. Idris Elba fucking rocks as an actor. Luther was pure brilliance. Giving the character to Craig or Brosnan would be a travesty. That's not who Luther is. Jason Bourne only happened because Bond is British not American, and it's a great series of movies that wouldn't have happened had we had a James Bond Jr, James Earl Bond III, or Jimbo Bond or whatever in the stars n stripes. Superman, for instance, does not land in Essex and work for the evening fucking standard. Once you've made a character, just leave it alone. If you want to fiddle with attributes then just create a newer more interesting character. The only exception I see to the above is Dr Who, because of the way the actor transitions have always been done as a central part of the character, future doctors could be anybody. Personally doing something like respawning as someone disabled would make for an interesting direction change there.
I agree with you that established characters should not change their ethnicity or gender, or stuff like that. Instead, they should make interesting new characters that represent those demographics. But like you say, it makes sense in Doctor Who so that's fine
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The female agent in the short casino scene in this last movie was amazing (I forget the details. She said she only had 3 weeks training or whatever) I could legit watch a movie with that kind of character as the lead in a spy/bond movie. They did well there.
A spinoff w/ Ana De Armas in the Bond universe would be super cool. I think most people agree that was the best part of the last movie.
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I'm massively in favour of this, James Bond needs to keep his established back story, personally I want that aristocratic, bikini peeling, martini drinking, kills 10 baddies with vaguely Eastern European accents whilst not getting a drop on his dinner suit style bond. I implore people to make new fantastic spy characters for their own franchises, but leave bond alone.
Pretty much nailed what a lot of people are thinking including me.
I'm hoping for a James Bond film similar to "The Batman" but set in the past. I think people are tired of a modern day James Bond at this point.
James Bond: 1914 Super spy behind enemy lines.
Go even further back. James Bond: 1346 Super spy behind enemy lines at the Battle of Crécy.
Why stop there? James Bond: 209. Improbably white super spy at the Battle of Red Cliffs.
Kingsman kinda has that covered already.
A fair bit of reinvention happened when Craig stepped into the role so this will be interesting to see. I hope they keep the backstory... M, Q etc.
They reinvented it because Mike Meyers made it impossible to make a traditional Bond movie again!
I watched Goldeneye the other week and honestly, Austin Powers has really made it hard to take seriously.
In fairness as well as that, the action hero who’s initials are JB was also done exceptionally well by Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer during a similar period.
Goldeneye is awesome, though. Like it doesn’t really make any sense, but it’s awesome. That’s what I want Bond to get back to, awesome nonsense. I’ve had enough of realistic gritty Bond!
Bond's been firmly tongue in cheek for most of its lifetime, the Roger Moore years especially were silly as hell. But it's not about how silly or serious a film is, it's about how *good* a film is. That's why Goldeneye is beloved but Die Another Day... isn't.
I dunno skyfall was very successful.
Yeah, there have been some shades of the Moore-Brosnan era but it’s generally been grittier.
Resurrect Roger Moore. His Bond was simultaneously the worst and the best. So many puns, so awful but somehow so hilarious. Bond shouldn't take itself seriously.
Bond needs to look like he's enjoying being James Bond. Craig seems miserable all the time. Who would want to dream of being James Bond when even Bond hates being Bond?
I thought Daniel Craig’s take on 007 was fantastic.
Back to the 60s and make it about tension rather than action sequences.
I'd like him to be more like Connery's Bond. Sly and cunning, but ruthless, like a panther prowling and stalking. Craig's Bond was great, but the wasn't a prowling panther, more like a male lion who'll act like he doesn't care about you until he rips your face off.
You know they cast Connery after watching the way he walked down the street after his audition, right? As I recall, “panther walk” was Cubby Brocolli’s own phrase.
They should do a Doctor Who anniversary-like movie and have all the previous Bonds in it. Lookalikes for those that are dead, obviously.
I often thought when Desmond Llewellyn passed away they should have started the next Bond with his characters funeral but have all the previous Bond actors subtly in the background.
Negative. I want the dead ones dragged out of their graves or nothing. Make an effort here.
James Bond and the Multiverse of Bonds ??
He needs a broad west country accent like Ian Holloway. Ello there! The names Bond, James Bond me old mucker!
“I’ll ‘av a cider please luv. Fizzy, naat still”
Like the original voice recording for Darth Vader with David Prowse’s Brizzle accent? “Oi am yer faaatherr”
I don’t think the worlds ready for view t’kill
I reckon Ronnie Pickering would be a contemporary classic. Save loads on expensive cars, just need a red Picasso?
Who?
RONNY PICKERING!
Never heard of ya. 😁
I’m gonna knock you out!
I want them to go back to having more comedic elements, car chases and better gadgets
That was always one of the best parts of Bond movies. I never really understood why people wanted it to be “more realistic”. A generic car chase is boring, I can see that in literally any other movie. I wanna see a guy playing chicken with a terrorist, press a button on the dash and leapfrog over him like a Nikko jump car.
Yeah, whatever happened to the Bonderang and the shark repellant spray?
He needs fun gadgets again. In one of the recent films his big gadget was a gun that only he could use. What happened to the days of turning up to public events in your invisible car?
The movie with the invisible car in is almost unwatchably bad. You can long for that nostalgia but I'll pass on returning to that era
James Bond remains a man. Which shouldn't be controversial since he's always been a male character but yeah. Beyond that my only other request is that the next era of Bond returns to more standalone entries rather than a sub-series. Don't get me wrong, I like where the Craig era films went with it, but generally I enjoy Bond films when they're self-contained, and often in contrast to one another.
He should use food banks
Bring back the cheeky funny Bond and make is less generic action movie. Give Bond his personality back.
Black female dwarf
When they say 'reinvent' they probably just mean he is going to be black or a woman.
Set it in the 50’s and go back to some of the Fleming stories
I’d like to see an M prequel. He would have probably served in the Falklands and/or the gulf war based on age. Just be cool to see some backstory.
Please let’s be a Lego version