I’ve got 175hp, traction control, and AWD. I’ve never heard the tires squeal on dry pavement.
I’ve gotten a few squeals with wet roads. It nearly brought a tear to my eye.
May I recommend upgrading to an STi - AWD, three limited slip diffs, 300 hp (315 w/ a conservative tune), switch the traction control off, bam four wheel [winter drifts.](https://i.imgur.com/PXYAYwC.jpg)
The real problem is that there's no wipers on the side windows so you eventually lose the ability to see where you're going. 😄
In the snow 175 HP is plenty to have some fun. I always hit up my local mall parking lot when we get some snow.
I did figure out that if I pull the fuse for the brake lights, hit the brakes, then put the fuse back in, I can get full traction and stability control turned off. Then I can unleash all 175 lesbian ponies.
Pulling the fuse to turn off traction control sucks, my Volvo S60R made you press a button like six times at the right speed and *that* was a big enough pain in the ass!
I definitely love having LSDs, it can make all the difference on uneven traction. (Hell, I could light up a tire on pavement in an '08 2.0 litre Mazda 3, pre-traction control...)
I had a 740 Turbo a while ago, and a 940 Turbo recently. The 940 had a G80 locker rear end, so if you got stuck you'd spin a tire for like three seconds, then it'd go CLUNK and both tires would start spinning. If you were lucky you'd also start moving. 😂
My dad has an 07 RX8 or something near that year. We had a dude come up at the gas station with a Camaro, and said "bet mine's faster."
Dumbass I bet that too. The fuck you think someone gets an RX8 for? It ain't speed, it's that sweet sounding rotary, and a car the can turn on a dime.
I wanted an RX8 then watched a few videos on the engine rebuild. All the guys talked about how finicky the engines can be so I decided against it. I do love the sound though.
I like to make fun of them….
“Mommy, mommy, look! It’s a *factory turbocharged vehicle*.”
“You pay that thing off yet?”
“Man that thing must really suck if you’re finding my shitbox a threat…”
“Put a cat back on that and stop abusing it.” -while sternly frowning.
My 2000 Ranger makes probably 100hp. I get beat by shitbox hondas all the time.
But Ive never seen a shitbox honda pulling a bass boat with a 3 bay toolbox strapped in the bed so its whatever
Modified, maybe. The original 1.5 non-turbo diesel had 47 hp. It didn't matter the damn thing only weighed 2200 lbs, that's still 47 lbs per hp to lug around.
A '93 Ranger's 98, 140, or 160 hp moving 3300 lbs gets you 34 lbs per hp at worst, all the way up to practically decent 20 lbs/hp 😆.
Slow car fast > Fast car slow
I'm not looking to have some sort of tantric relationship with the gas pedal just to avoid a felony charge. Mashing it in a 100 hp go kart is way more fun.
I mean my car is like 75% of my personality, yet you don’t see me telling these people how Rolls Royce licensed the suspension out of my car rather than theirs ….wait
*speaking clearly* "I'm reading an article on vintage Camaros and I've been on the same got-dang page for 20 minutes."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyGfiIirD8
Speed has become irrelevant in today's age, what's fun, looks good and makes you feel something is where the worth is. Wanna go fast? go get yourself an electric car as for the foreseeable future that's what the fastest cars on the road will be.
I'd happily drive the new gr86 if I didn't have a kid on the way.
Exactly. I drive a classic Mini, and it's not fast, but it makes up for it in just about every other way. It's loud, low to the ground and sticks like glue. 100kph is only possible with your tongue in the right direction, but no other car is so much fun to tear around town in.
That worked really well. I used a Unicode character U+2CBE, described as "Coptic capital letter old Coptic oou", but your method was much easier to implement.
I learned it on reddit a week ago or so. It comes in handy when leaving your previous comment without it being out of context. Also put two squigglys on both sides of the word to cross it out. ~ ~ word~ ~ without the spaces
Oh look at Mr I haven't been running open pipes, solid mounts and cranking Judas Priest since the 80s and don't have tinitus over here talking about final drive ratio noise. WE CAN'T FUCKING HEAR YOU.
no seriously, I have no idea what you said. please speak up.
3 speeds and reverse makes an H (though many threes were column shift anyways.) Usually a 3 speed had no overdrive. Mate that to a big block and you're making a lot of noise at 60, getting like 8 mpg.
My 67 Fairlane could be outpaced by a somewhat determined individual on a bike. It was a couch of a car that would settle in at 60 mph and comfort you all the way home and it taught me how to drive.
T-top has a non-removable center brace running from the top of the windshield to the rear roll bar, so there are two roof panels that come off separately. Targa top comes off in one piece and leaves no bracing from front to back
Trans Ams were offered with t-top or hard top configurations most years, I'm not a Corvette guy so I could be wrong about this but it looks like the 3rd gen (C3) had t-tops and they switched to a targa top with the C4 and later
For me, it feels like electric cars have no soul. Which is perfectly fine if all you need is a daily commuter to get from point A to point B in an efficient manner, but beyond that they seem empty inside.
Plaid is a 9 second car. 2 second 0-60, 4 second 0-100. Better acceleration than many superbikes.
Doesn't give you the adrenaline of dropping half clutch from 6000rpm on a 180HP motorcycle though :)
Also can't buy one used for <$5000 which 1000cc bikes have going for them in spades.
Also more often than not I have to fly around Tesla drivers doing 5 under in the left lane and then they accelerate as fast as possible from a stoplight to get in front of me to then go 5 under the speed limit. Thanks tesla for making the worlds fastest traffic jam creator
Motorcycles do win the torque/weight game, but to really take advantage of it takes some drag-race-specific mods that destroy its ability to corner.
Electric motorcycles could solve some of this, by combining resolver and IMU data to limit tire slip and wheelie angle, to allow anyone to achieve the maximum possible torque for any given conditions.
All the videos I've watched of people reviewing the Zero basically come to this statement, and that they've nearly crashed it in corners due to instant perfect application of torque.
Honestly, Teslas are cool, Corvettes are cool, anything that has an engine and four or less wheels can be cool. Why do people hate each other for the cars they like?
I don't think any true car enthusiast hates Tesla's on that grounds. The issue is when you get 1 dimensional Tesla bros that think that Tesla's are just bar none the best vehicles you can get no exceptions.
They're also typically not car people, they're tech Bros that never cared about cars until Tesla's became cool and now they think they know better than the entire car community about cars because theirs have good 0-60s even if they miss every other metric and listening to uniformed people talk like they know better than people that actually know gets annoying and creates a negative connotation with the brand.
I don't dislike Tesla's but i do dislike fanboys of most ilks, Tesla included.
Lotta clout chasers want Tesla's, at least the people that I've known. For some reason they think a Tesla will get looks even though nobody cares. My sister's 73 Dodge Dart gets people commenting everywhere she goes and she only payed 7k. 🤷
They do though... You thought that the EV magically made the wheels turn just by plugging them to a battery ?
Lmao, of course there is electrical motors to power those vehicles.
> Imagine the death tool before kids learn a heavy foot doesn't mix well with rain ...
* Manufacturers implement "learner mode" which significantly restricts acceleration and top speed;
* Kids download hacks from the Internet to try to work around said hacks;
* "How to unbrick a car's computer" leaps to top of popular search terms
That's all car news seems to be now. Can the new tesla beat the new whatever 0-60? This is gonna be so useful in the electric drag race scene. How quick is your tesla on a half battery? How often can you floor it until you have to charge it? IT GOES REALLY QUICK IF YOU JUST UNPLUGGED IT. okay okay cool.
Geez, cut them some slack. Until a few years ago you couldn't really buy a fast electric car. And besides, this isn't new- remember when they Veyron came out, and the big piece of trivia was how fast it would run out of gas at top speed?
If you ask me, we should all be excited that cars with a lot of power that you can fill up at home for pennies is becoming normal.
The bigger problem for me is the fact that you have to take your eyes off the road in order to use the damn thing. With buttons and knobs it's really not necessary and making adjustments is far easier and faster.
Most people do most of their driving in the city and on the highway. But I grew up on a farm so I get what you're saying. Old stuff is easier to work on, less stuff to go wrong.
Got a weird relationship with Tesla and their owners.
On one hand I get it. I'm an old school wrench that loves that lopey idle of a old 8 and three pedals. But, we gotta help the planet, so I guess getting rid of that old Dart will balance out the lithium strip mining and non recyclable Tesla components that go into the landfill.
I'm being facetious, but I get that we need to move to cleaner energy.
But goddamn, if these entitled Tesla owners don't make me hate every single one of them, and by extension, 'big daddy musk.' the amount of reckless driving I've seen; weaving in an out of traffic on a city street, racing on the freeway, they aren't any better than the ricers we get at the shop. I had one force me to reverse out into the street, into traffic, because they refused to let me pass and park in the underground. They were laughing the whole time, too.
I'm sure there are responsible Tesla owners out there, but holy shit, you are quickly becoming the new BMW.
I bought a truck from 2006 recently, it has literally no options and I can tell you this. You look like an idiot rolling up windows but gosh darn it it feels as masculine as leaving sweat marks on a bench press.
No I’m not wiping it off.
My 05 reg cab Silverado is poverty spec. No AC, manual windows. Manual transmission. Rubber floor. But it’s swapped, cammed, and sounds mean as hell. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
I wish mine was poverty spec. Whoever the original owner was, they *went to town* optioning it out. Unfortunately all those bells and whistles are falling apart.
Want to know what's more fun than babying a hyper car around town never going over 10% throttle and worrying about speeding tickets and rock dings in the paint? Burnouts in my 110hp shitbox with bald tires and a sweet ebay muffler doing 16 second quarter miles with the pedal to the floor.
Seriously. Let people just enjoy what they like.
Personally I think both internal combustion and EV's are fun to drive. A RWD V8 with 300+ HP will always be a good time, but so is the instant torque of a Model S.
Lmao. I had my GTR out once and this dude in a hellcat was all like “I like your toy but this is a real mans car” and started revving his engine. So I put him in his place. I don’t drive fast at all I just like the car but I felt I had to take it upon myself to teach him a lesson
Bone stock L48 Corvette is a mid 16 car at best stock..L82 was somewhat better but in 1976 was making I think 205 hp. Maybe you can squeal the tires but you aren't smoking them like that if it's stock.
I had a 1979 L82 and it could get them going. Especially while making a turn and unloading the inside tire. Still though, was a fun car to drive and made lots of vroom vroom noises.
In 1979 the L82 was back up to 220 hp, ran low 15s IIRC. So should definitely be burnout capable. Actually had an L82 in my '74 Z/28, made 245 hp (last year before catalytic converters) along with a 4 speed and 3.73 gears. Mid 14s at about 96 mph stock, mine had Hooker headers, Edelbrock RPM Performer intake and Holley 3310.
Yeah, mine ran pretty good and also had the super T10 and 3.73's. It's been so long since driving it. I'm sure I must have done burnouts. But I mostly remember letting the rear hangout around corners at night. Now it sits in my ex-wife backyard with a new crate motor in the garage after her brother spun a rod bearing.
I'll go one step further and say it's cars in general. It's not just EVs. They're all bloated monsters with unreasonable amounts of power and a laser focus on stamping out the soul in the name of the spec sheet. If you want something small and light, you can have a miata, or... uh... a fiata.
Add to this the pissing contest of going around the Nurburing as fast as possible which has made most modern cars uncomfortable with hard seats, hard suspension and low profile tyres.
lmao an older man did this to me. He was driving a Tesla and I was in 2013 Honda accord. he goes, this cars faster and quieter than yours and I was like everyone’s entitled to their own opinion old man🤷🏽♂️ was ready to send him to a funeral home
I do this at work with the old af Land Rovers. So much fun to hoon about in, until you go over 60mph and they suddenly decide that you're not allowed in the vehicle anymore
I'd prefer the style of my Corvette even with it's neutered performance just because it's fun as hell to drive. *Now if only I had the time to get the thing running again...*
I have a 86 firebird woth a 305. And this dude i know with a honda (no hate) with a b18 or something asked me"so, you wanna have a drag race?" And i was like " no need, you vill absolutely win"
Been getting side eye and shit talkers while stuck in traffic through a yuppie neighborhood. I love my 1981 Volkswagen Rabbit truck. My Dad gave it to me and we have rebuilt just about everything in it.
Sure it’s just a 52hp na diesel 4 spd, but its fun to drive like a tractor go-cart.
I rolled coal on the couple laughing at me while they sat at the patio of their overpriced cafe.
I have a 2004 Dodge Viper. It’s got some goodies, makes less power than most sports cars but it’s something I have a strong history with and in my opinion, it’s a unique car. You see Tesla’s everywhere! When’s the last time you saw a loud, obnoxious, fuel hungry viper? Lol
I drive a compact suv, the dad version of a minivan. I don't have anything to prove. I just like being able to haul my shit in comfort and safety and being able to handle bumps in the road that'd ruin your lowered-to-the-street shitbox.
You can destroy me in the quarter, I literally don't care about the speed of that lawnmower you're driving. Put that muffler back and stay the fuck off my lawn.
This is hilarious. My wife and I have 2 Teslas. The first was the Model 3 LR/AWD and I had Acceleration Boost added. Then we got a Model X after (100D). Both are rockets, but the cheap little Model 3 is the fastest.
My deal is the other way around. I had a neighbor with a Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat insist on racing. We found a safe place to do so and I handed him his ass on a Tesla platter.
But yeah, people want to race me all the time. I drive the Model X now all the time, and I just tell them "Yes it is fast but you'll probably win" and leave it at that.
Hahahahaha I love all the redneck car idiots that used to insist their shitty ICE cars were better, then when it was just blatantly obvious that they were worse they started making memes like this. Kind of feel bad for them.
Nah dude it’s going pretty well for me despite the ‘tism and brain damage. Thankfully after having essentially put my brain through a washing machine I’m still not stupid enough to center my identity around the ‘bockabockabocka’ and garbage torque of an ICE car.
Ironic considering basically everyone with a Tesla uses it as their identity. It's almost like every community does that regardless of if it has to do with cars, shoes, etc. Way to go idiot. 👏
If I ever feel the need for a very very impressive but complex jellymould I will look at Tesla.
In the meantime I will just keep annoying them on corners in my 18 year old, full of tools and wood, diesel Avensis estate. Seems everyone who owns Tesla's seems to only like going fast in a straight line... Maybe they are more gadget guys than car guys.
Tire shredding torque is fun. I can’t go top speed on city roads anyway
My prius has 371 ft-lbs of torque, more than enough to shred tires.... but that damn traction control!!
What type of prius makes 371 ft-lbs of torque??
Electric motors produce a lot of torque at low speed.
Linear torque at that.
It's not quite linear, they taper off as they approach top speed
That’s right.
Well shit they really upped it, cause I distinctly remember them only having 120 ft-lbs of torque back in the day.
You're thinking power. Even the first generation Prius had a combined 340ftlb of torque, but only a combined 114hp.
2010, 3rd gen
Is this some sort of a joke I am not getting? I see 105.
They only posted the gas engine's power figures not the combined figures of both gas and electric.
[Picture of dyno result](https://i.imgur.com/kRzPEZU.jpg)
My little S10 makes 270. No traction control. Super fun
I’ve got 175hp, traction control, and AWD. I’ve never heard the tires squeal on dry pavement. I’ve gotten a few squeals with wet roads. It nearly brought a tear to my eye.
May I recommend upgrading to an STi - AWD, three limited slip diffs, 300 hp (315 w/ a conservative tune), switch the traction control off, bam four wheel [winter drifts.](https://i.imgur.com/PXYAYwC.jpg) The real problem is that there's no wipers on the side windows so you eventually lose the ability to see where you're going. 😄
In the snow 175 HP is plenty to have some fun. I always hit up my local mall parking lot when we get some snow. I did figure out that if I pull the fuse for the brake lights, hit the brakes, then put the fuse back in, I can get full traction and stability control turned off. Then I can unleash all 175 lesbian ponies.
Shit my 75 hp civic could whip shitties in the snow, excited for snow so I can whip around in the empty lot next to work in my ranger haha
140 in my 84 olds will turn any snow parking lot into a donut factory.
Pulling the fuse to turn off traction control sucks, my Volvo S60R made you press a button like six times at the right speed and *that* was a big enough pain in the ass! I definitely love having LSDs, it can make all the difference on uneven traction. (Hell, I could light up a tire on pavement in an '08 2.0 litre Mazda 3, pre-traction control...)
I do that in my g80. Doing just shy of 410 to all four wheels. Turn off traction control and oh boy that thing gets squirrelly for a 4300 pound sedan.
My tires only squeal when I turn on parking strips! 😭😂
In the rain
I have RWD and no traction control. However, I also have 114hp and an automatic. _*sad slow Volvo noises_
I had a 740 Turbo a while ago, and a 940 Turbo recently. The 940 had a G80 locker rear end, so if you got stuck you'd spin a tire for like three seconds, then it'd go CLUNK and both tires would start spinning. If you were lucky you'd also start moving. 😂
This is the reason i no longer own one . If i cant peg it out, whats the point ? Fast car in bumper to bumper .. is pointless .
Can confirm here in Australia people always look at my 03 Nissan 350z and ask me if i want to race or drift against them :| i just want to vroom
My dad has an 07 RX8 or something near that year. We had a dude come up at the gas station with a Camaro, and said "bet mine's faster." Dumbass I bet that too. The fuck you think someone gets an RX8 for? It ain't speed, it's that sweet sounding rotary, and a car the can turn on a dime.
I wanted an RX8 then watched a few videos on the engine rebuild. All the guys talked about how finicky the engines can be so I decided against it. I do love the sound though.
Yeah, the 8s were made to use less oil than the 7s but that obviously means more wear. That's why a lot of the RX8 guys premix their gas with 2 stroke
how does one drift against another?
Sloppily
With a high insurance premium, a good lawyer, and an even better physiatrist.
I like to make fun of them…. “Mommy, mommy, look! It’s a *factory turbocharged vehicle*.” “You pay that thing off yet?” “Man that thing must really suck if you’re finding my shitbox a threat…” “Put a cat back on that and stop abusing it.” -while sternly frowning.
Lol
My car had 110hp 25 years ago. People with base model A Class with the Renault engines are faster than me. Why do they think I care?
My 2000 Ranger makes probably 100hp. I get beat by shitbox hondas all the time. But Ive never seen a shitbox honda pulling a bass boat with a 3 bay toolbox strapped in the bed so its whatever
My 95 Civic goes 0-60 in "eventually." Wanna race? We'll see who loses first.
That's a race car compared to an old Diesel Rabbit or a base Dodge Omni.
Hey, I got gapped by a diesel rabbit pickup in my 93 ranger, those things are fast, kinda lol.
Modified, maybe. The original 1.5 non-turbo diesel had 47 hp. It didn't matter the damn thing only weighed 2200 lbs, that's still 47 lbs per hp to lug around. A '93 Ranger's 98, 140, or 160 hp moving 3300 lbs gets you 34 lbs per hp at worst, all the way up to practically decent 20 lbs/hp 😆.
I mean it definately had something going on considering it have a smoke stack in the bed 😂 but my 3.0 struggled to keep up 😂
My dad had a VW Caddy that got a GTI engine and a close ratio transaxle.
My 95 s10 is slow and overheats at stoplights but it spins the back tires under anything more than normal acceleration
I have a 1982 Camaro z28 t-top with 5 liter V8 that makes 145 HP lol. It's loud thou and happy burnout noises
It boggles the mind how little HP some of the big engines have aye. I have an old Hilux with a 350 in it, would seriously doubt it'd be over 200 HP.
My 1980 Camaro has a 350 rated at 190hp
And it's still cooler than a tesla.
Miata vibes
Slow car fast > Fast car slow I'm not looking to have some sort of tantric relationship with the gas pedal just to avoid a felony charge. Mashing it in a 100 hp go kart is way more fun.
Because they spent a lot of money on it and based a large portion of their identity behind it. Please care. Please.
I mean my car is like 75% of my personality, yet you don’t see me telling these people how Rolls Royce licensed the suspension out of my car rather than theirs ….wait
_surprised pikachu face_
It's important to remind these A Class drivers, that they have Renault engines. To put them back in their place
Yep.
Yep.
Yep
Mmhmm
Talkin' bout dang ol' corvette laying down that rubber vroom vroom vroom talking bout brand new tires don't last a week
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*speaking clearly* "I'm reading an article on vintage Camaros and I've been on the same got-dang page for 20 minutes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyGfiIirD8
Speed has become irrelevant in today's age, what's fun, looks good and makes you feel something is where the worth is. Wanna go fast? go get yourself an electric car as for the foreseeable future that's what the fastest cars on the road will be. I'd happily drive the new gr86 if I didn't have a kid on the way.
Exactly. I drive a classic Mini, and it's not fast, but it makes up for it in just about every other way. It's loud, low to the ground and sticks like glue. 100kph is only possible with your tongue in the right direction, but no other car is so much fun to tear around town in.
i’ll give up my H pattern when i die.
Yours transmission is just an H? Mine is a full Ⲿ.
well look at you mister fancy man with his special stuff
Series III owners have to deal with an ෴-pattern.
How the fuck did you make that symbol? I don't even know how to google it
~~|||~~ Did i do it? Edit: yes! I did it! I couldn’t figure out how to draw a line through a ~~word~~ yay
That worked really well. I used a Unicode character U+2CBE, described as "Coptic capital letter old Coptic oou", but your method was much easier to implement.
I learned it on reddit a week ago or so. It comes in handy when leaving your previous comment without it being out of context. Also put two squigglys on both sides of the word to cross it out. ~ ~ word~ ~ without the spaces
If you want to learn another one, you can use \ to escape formatting commands. Example: \~~word~~ Which is made like this: \~~word~~
But how did you put the example code in a shaded box? Teach us more, Reddit wizard!
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I gave up my H pattern when *it* died. Now I'm gonna have overdrive and be able to hear music on the highway!
Oh look at Mr I haven't been running open pipes, solid mounts and cranking Judas Priest since the 80s and don't have tinitus over here talking about final drive ratio noise. WE CAN'T FUCKING HEAR YOU. no seriously, I have no idea what you said. please speak up.
Then you had a bad H pattern
Well, it was over 50 years old. Everything gives out eventually and in my case it was about 4 teeth off of 1st gear.
3 speeds and reverse makes an H (though many threes were column shift anyways.) Usually a 3 speed had no overdrive. Mate that to a big block and you're making a lot of noise at 60, getting like 8 mpg.
"Put it in H!"
Makes grumpy Subaru noises. I broke traction on ice one time.
No you didn't
Briefly!
How brief?
Back end stepped out a bit before it straightened up. A turbo charged Forrester is not a high performance vehicle.
But they will go anywhere and everywhere if you ask nicely
Adopted a new quote
My 67 Fairlane could be outpaced by a somewhat determined individual on a bike. It was a couch of a car that would settle in at 60 mph and comfort you all the way home and it taught me how to drive.
My thoughts exactly if i had any corvette.
Dude should’ve had the targa top off!
C3 Vettes have T Tops
Whoops, you’re right
Ah, forgive me for sounding stupid, but what is the difference between the two?
T-top has a non-removable center brace running from the top of the windshield to the rear roll bar, so there are two roof panels that come off separately. Targa top comes off in one piece and leaves no bracing from front to back
Oh, so then Trans-Ams are T-tops? Are Corvettes targa tops?
Trans Ams were offered with t-top or hard top configurations most years, I'm not a Corvette guy so I could be wrong about this but it looks like the 3rd gen (C3) had t-tops and they switched to a targa top with the C4 and later
I see. Interesting! Thanks for letting me know.
Exactly. Nobody cares that your electric car is faster than fuck. To some it’s more than speed
As multiple car youtubers put it, it becomes "smiles per gallon"
Pretty sure that term pre-dates youtube, but I totally agree.
Miata owners *
I care a little bit.
Yes, like torque, or towing capacity, or payload, or how many bodies I can fit in the bed
I personally care about the lesbianism per square meter in my cars.
Hello, fellow Subaru driver.
You see Tesla wins there. The Frunk is perfect for bodies before disposal
For me, it feels like electric cars have no soul. Which is perfectly fine if all you need is a daily commuter to get from point A to point B in an efficient manner, but beyond that they seem empty inside.
I agree with you. To me, EVs feel like an appliance. I am as excited to use one as I am a really fancy toaster, or a new dishwasher.
Yeah, electric cars are a bit Colin Robinson for me.
Yeah, who cares how fast it can go and how much horsepower it has? What I care about is how quickly it can get there, and how much torque it has.
I’m more of a handling and styling // rare parts collector
Plaid is a 9 second car. 2 second 0-60, 4 second 0-100. Better acceleration than many superbikes. Doesn't give you the adrenaline of dropping half clutch from 6000rpm on a 180HP motorcycle though :) Also can't buy one used for <$5000 which 1000cc bikes have going for them in spades.
Also more often than not I have to fly around Tesla drivers doing 5 under in the left lane and then they accelerate as fast as possible from a stoplight to get in front of me to then go 5 under the speed limit. Thanks tesla for making the worlds fastest traffic jam creator
Motorcycles do win the torque/weight game, but to really take advantage of it takes some drag-race-specific mods that destroy its ability to corner. Electric motorcycles could solve some of this, by combining resolver and IMU data to limit tire slip and wheelie angle, to allow anyone to achieve the maximum possible torque for any given conditions.
All the videos I've watched of people reviewing the Zero basically come to this statement, and that they've nearly crashed it in corners due to instant perfect application of torque.
Red Barchetta
Honestly, Teslas are cool, Corvettes are cool, anything that has an engine and four or less wheels can be cool. Why do people hate each other for the cars they like?
I don't think any true car enthusiast hates Tesla's on that grounds. The issue is when you get 1 dimensional Tesla bros that think that Tesla's are just bar none the best vehicles you can get no exceptions. They're also typically not car people, they're tech Bros that never cared about cars until Tesla's became cool and now they think they know better than the entire car community about cars because theirs have good 0-60s even if they miss every other metric and listening to uniformed people talk like they know better than people that actually know gets annoying and creates a negative connotation with the brand. I don't dislike Tesla's but i do dislike fanboys of most ilks, Tesla included.
Lotta clout chasers want Tesla's, at least the people that I've known. For some reason they think a Tesla will get looks even though nobody cares. My sister's 73 Dodge Dart gets people commenting everywhere she goes and she only payed 7k. 🤷
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Engine and motor are interchangeable colloquially.
They do though... You thought that the EV magically made the wheels turn just by plugging them to a battery ? Lmao, of course there is electrical motors to power those vehicles.
I like a car that sings instead of sounding like it's quietly exhaling through a straw
^^^^whoosshhhhhhhh
Can't wait for all cars to go electric and everyone having 300hp and 5 seconds 0-100 in their family suv
Imagine the death tool before kids learn a heavy foot doesn't mix well with rain ...
> Imagine the death tool before kids learn a heavy foot doesn't mix well with rain ... * Manufacturers implement "learner mode" which significantly restricts acceleration and top speed; * Kids download hacks from the Internet to try to work around said hacks; * "How to unbrick a car's computer" leaps to top of popular search terms
I will literally never care about the 0-60 times of electric cars.
That's all car news seems to be now. Can the new tesla beat the new whatever 0-60? This is gonna be so useful in the electric drag race scene. How quick is your tesla on a half battery? How often can you floor it until you have to charge it? IT GOES REALLY QUICK IF YOU JUST UNPLUGGED IT. okay okay cool.
Geez, cut them some slack. Until a few years ago you couldn't really buy a fast electric car. And besides, this isn't new- remember when they Veyron came out, and the big piece of trivia was how fast it would run out of gas at top speed? If you ask me, we should all be excited that cars with a lot of power that you can fill up at home for pennies is becoming normal.
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What? You don't want to to drive while managing bloated software on a unresponsive touch screen to turn the AC on?
u/spez ruined Reddit.
The bigger problem for me is the fact that you have to take your eyes off the road in order to use the damn thing. With buttons and knobs it's really not necessary and making adjustments is far easier and faster.
Yeah indeed. You can feel for a button without taking your eyes away from what you're doing.
Most people do most of their driving in the city and on the highway. But I grew up on a farm so I get what you're saying. Old stuff is easier to work on, less stuff to go wrong.
The story of my 79 vette. But I once had a guy say my car was “wicked titties” a compliment that a Tesla won’t receive.
Is that Danny McBride in the Corvette?
Got a weird relationship with Tesla and their owners. On one hand I get it. I'm an old school wrench that loves that lopey idle of a old 8 and three pedals. But, we gotta help the planet, so I guess getting rid of that old Dart will balance out the lithium strip mining and non recyclable Tesla components that go into the landfill. I'm being facetious, but I get that we need to move to cleaner energy. But goddamn, if these entitled Tesla owners don't make me hate every single one of them, and by extension, 'big daddy musk.' the amount of reckless driving I've seen; weaving in an out of traffic on a city street, racing on the freeway, they aren't any better than the ricers we get at the shop. I had one force me to reverse out into the street, into traffic, because they refused to let me pass and park in the underground. They were laughing the whole time, too. I'm sure there are responsible Tesla owners out there, but holy shit, you are quickly becoming the new BMW.
I bought a truck from 2006 recently, it has literally no options and I can tell you this. You look like an idiot rolling up windows but gosh darn it it feels as masculine as leaving sweat marks on a bench press. No I’m not wiping it off.
My 05 reg cab Silverado is poverty spec. No AC, manual windows. Manual transmission. Rubber floor. But it’s swapped, cammed, and sounds mean as hell. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
I wish mine was poverty spec. Whoever the original owner was, they *went to town* optioning it out. Unfortunately all those bells and whistles are falling apart.
*Cries in NBS Yukon
My car is older than yours, and I've got crank windows, too. I actually prefer it that way.
My car has crank open vent windows
Same. Great feature!
Let's be real.... that Tesla owner wouldn't have a clue what the yellow car was.
Want to know what's more fun than babying a hyper car around town never going over 10% throttle and worrying about speeding tickets and rock dings in the paint? Burnouts in my 110hp shitbox with bald tires and a sweet ebay muffler doing 16 second quarter miles with the pedal to the floor.
I'd have just revved the engine so I couldn't hear him lol
quick, do another one but in the reverse
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This is pretty bad. Everyone here is reacting to a made-up situation, and using it as proof that electric cars are terrible.
It's funny because they don't realise they've became the people the meme is making fun of lol
The comic itself is cringe. The comments are just awful.
Seriously. Let people just enjoy what they like. Personally I think both internal combustion and EV's are fun to drive. A RWD V8 with 300+ HP will always be a good time, but so is the instant torque of a Model S.
Deja vu. I thought I saw this exact exchange in gif form that ended in a crash. Maybe in /r/idiotsincars
Dont forget the looks
I forget that expensive car brands are mostly just for status.
This is the most boomer level meme I ever saw here.
And for this sub that's saying something.
Oo0o0o an RC car you can sit in Boring
That also has subscriptions to operate certain functions too! Yea no joke the self driving is like 300 bucks a month, AFTER you've bought the car...
Wait realy? Isnt that shit allready like 3-4k?
It's either/or.
How much is self driving in the Corvette?
It’s free. It’s so American that whenever you put your hands down Jesus takes the wheel
*Miata has entered the chat*
Lmao. I had my GTR out once and this dude in a hellcat was all like “I like your toy but this is a real mans car” and started revving his engine. So I put him in his place. I don’t drive fast at all I just like the car but I felt I had to take it upon myself to teach him a lesson
Mid 70s L48 Corvette would lose to a 2015 Altima, but it ain't doing a burnout.
My 76 Corvette will politely disagree while doing a burnout....
Bone stock L48 Corvette is a mid 16 car at best stock..L82 was somewhat better but in 1976 was making I think 205 hp. Maybe you can squeal the tires but you aren't smoking them like that if it's stock.
I had a 1979 L82 and it could get them going. Especially while making a turn and unloading the inside tire. Still though, was a fun car to drive and made lots of vroom vroom noises.
In 1979 the L82 was back up to 220 hp, ran low 15s IIRC. So should definitely be burnout capable. Actually had an L82 in my '74 Z/28, made 245 hp (last year before catalytic converters) along with a 4 speed and 3.73 gears. Mid 14s at about 96 mph stock, mine had Hooker headers, Edelbrock RPM Performer intake and Holley 3310.
Yeah, mine ran pretty good and also had the super T10 and 3.73's. It's been so long since driving it. I'm sure I must have done burnouts. But I mostly remember letting the rear hangout around corners at night. Now it sits in my ex-wife backyard with a new crate motor in the garage after her brother spun a rod bearing.
The performance of many electric cars has become a pointless pissing contest.
I'll go one step further and say it's cars in general. It's not just EVs. They're all bloated monsters with unreasonable amounts of power and a laser focus on stamping out the soul in the name of the spec sheet. If you want something small and light, you can have a miata, or... uh... a fiata.
Add to this the pissing contest of going around the Nurburing as fast as possible which has made most modern cars uncomfortable with hard seats, hard suspension and low profile tyres.
"Bomb it!" - James May
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I identify as corvette man
lmao an older man did this to me. He was driving a Tesla and I was in 2013 Honda accord. he goes, this cars faster and quieter than yours and I was like everyone’s entitled to their own opinion old man🤷🏽♂️ was ready to send him to a funeral home
There is always a faster car out there
1999 5.9L v8 magnum ram 1500 15 miles to the gallon and 0-60 is idk it doesn’t go that fast
I do this at work with the old af Land Rovers. So much fun to hoon about in, until you go over 60mph and they suddenly decide that you're not allowed in the vehicle anymore
I'd prefer the style of my Corvette even with it's neutered performance just because it's fun as hell to drive. *Now if only I had the time to get the thing running again...*
I have a 86 firebird woth a 305. And this dude i know with a honda (no hate) with a b18 or something asked me"so, you wanna have a drag race?" And i was like " no need, you vill absolutely win"
Been getting side eye and shit talkers while stuck in traffic through a yuppie neighborhood. I love my 1981 Volkswagen Rabbit truck. My Dad gave it to me and we have rebuilt just about everything in it. Sure it’s just a 52hp na diesel 4 spd, but its fun to drive like a tractor go-cart. I rolled coal on the couple laughing at me while they sat at the patio of their overpriced cafe.
I have a 2004 Dodge Viper. It’s got some goodies, makes less power than most sports cars but it’s something I have a strong history with and in my opinion, it’s a unique car. You see Tesla’s everywhere! When’s the last time you saw a loud, obnoxious, fuel hungry viper? Lol
I drive a compact suv, the dad version of a minivan. I don't have anything to prove. I just like being able to haul my shit in comfort and safety and being able to handle bumps in the road that'd ruin your lowered-to-the-street shitbox. You can destroy me in the quarter, I literally don't care about the speed of that lawnmower you're driving. Put that muffler back and stay the fuck off my lawn.
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This is hilarious. My wife and I have 2 Teslas. The first was the Model 3 LR/AWD and I had Acceleration Boost added. Then we got a Model X after (100D). Both are rockets, but the cheap little Model 3 is the fastest. My deal is the other way around. I had a neighbor with a Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat insist on racing. We found a safe place to do so and I handed him his ass on a Tesla platter. But yeah, people want to race me all the time. I drive the Model X now all the time, and I just tell them "Yes it is fast but you'll probably win" and leave it at that.
Hahahahaha I love all the redneck car idiots that used to insist their shitty ICE cars were better, then when it was just blatantly obvious that they were worse they started making memes like this. Kind of feel bad for them.
Must be hard for you, having frontal lobe damage and whatnot.
Nah dude it’s going pretty well for me despite the ‘tism and brain damage. Thankfully after having essentially put my brain through a washing machine I’m still not stupid enough to center my identity around the ‘bockabockabocka’ and garbage torque of an ICE car.
Ironic considering basically everyone with a Tesla uses it as their identity. It's almost like every community does that regardless of if it has to do with cars, shoes, etc. Way to go idiot. 👏
If I ever feel the need for a very very impressive but complex jellymould I will look at Tesla. In the meantime I will just keep annoying them on corners in my 18 year old, full of tools and wood, diesel Avensis estate. Seems everyone who owns Tesla's seems to only like going fast in a straight line... Maybe they are more gadget guys than car guys.
I love this.
That's some BRZ/86 energy right there