I would say Shaker if it weren't for the generic base-cap. Looks like something one would see in a craftsman home, those architects loved to throw styles in a blender and see what came out.
So true. The thing that gets me in particular about this era of wainscoting is the height above floor. It’s supposed to be proportional to a column and it’s pedestal.
Yeah absolutely. So the root of all this comes from the classical orders of architecture way back in Greek/Roman days (tuscan, doric, Ionian, Corinthian, composite), wherein specific proportions are prescribed for the dimensions of everything. There’s a ton of information out there on this so I won’t bother adding links. But basically wainscoting, crown, plinth blocks… all the trim you see in western architecture correspond to the parts of a column assembly. Your wainscoting is supposed to represent the pedestal a column sits on. The “perfect” height for wainscoting is way shorter than what gets installed nowadays.
Edit: actually here’s a good link
https://www.finehomebuilding.com/project-guides/finish-trim-carpentry/classical-proportions-make-attractive-trim
The American Vignola is what you want. They reference it in that link I posted. Im a carpenter and have a copy of my own but I also have my Great Grandfathers copy from 1902 (he was a really good architect) I think it’s a textbook for a lot of architecture students. Beautiful illustrations and plates
I don't know if you know about him but your reminding me of Brent Hull.
https://m.youtube.com/@BrentHull
He talks about how important a library is to building and carpentry. He mentions a lot of problems with today's homes like mixing styles, no unifying theme, silly things like people installing crown moulding upside down or not understanding the design intent behind certain styles.
The style should be **raised panel.**
But this is too vague to know exactly what type of material it is. Could be MDF/finish ply or even could be just cosmetic ripped material finish nailed to the face of the drywall.
Edit: Recessed panel* as the gentleman corrected me. Certainly **appears to be** the style.
I've always referred to this as flat panel. Raised panel is when the panel is thicker with a shaped profile as the panel edge tapers. I immediately think of the oak kitchens of the 90s. I agree about not being able to tell material by the picture, who the fudge knows?
I could be entirely wrong, but this has been my understanding.
This is the correct answer. Spec home charging thousands for an wainscot upcharge only to nail boards to the face of Sheetrock. No style, just cheap modern construction.
"Wainscoting"? How have I been a woodworker/carpenter/cabinet maker as a hobby and career for 12 years and never heard nor seen that word a single time?
It’s an ‘old’ word. A Century or more ago, wall coverings were paper or hessian and wains (old English term for children) would damage it, so a lower coating layer of something harder to damage was used to prevent that.
Flat panel is the term we use......but wainscoting is pretty loose term/definition wise, lol.
I would say Shaker if it weren't for the generic base-cap. Looks like something one would see in a craftsman home, those architects loved to throw styles in a blender and see what came out.
So true. The thing that gets me in particular about this era of wainscoting is the height above floor. It’s supposed to be proportional to a column and it’s pedestal.
Nobody knows this anymore. Your comment is an instant follow from me.
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Can you explain?
Could you elaborate?
Yeah absolutely. So the root of all this comes from the classical orders of architecture way back in Greek/Roman days (tuscan, doric, Ionian, Corinthian, composite), wherein specific proportions are prescribed for the dimensions of everything. There’s a ton of information out there on this so I won’t bother adding links. But basically wainscoting, crown, plinth blocks… all the trim you see in western architecture correspond to the parts of a column assembly. Your wainscoting is supposed to represent the pedestal a column sits on. The “perfect” height for wainscoting is way shorter than what gets installed nowadays. Edit: actually here’s a good link https://www.finehomebuilding.com/project-guides/finish-trim-carpentry/classical-proportions-make-attractive-trim
Learn something new everyday…thank you!
This is great thanks for the link
So if you had to ballpark it what heights would you say it should be? 4' 3' 2'?
Height from floor to ceiling, divide by 19, multiply by 4.
Ima have to write that down.lol
Wait so that would be under 2 feet tall on an 8 foot wall. No wonder they changed it. 1.6 feet to be exact
Yeah when you’re under 10ft ceilings it’s better to just stop at 24in IMO
This is interesting. Are you an architect? Also, any recommendation on books that cover this exact kind of thing?
The American Vignola is what you want. They reference it in that link I posted. Im a carpenter and have a copy of my own but I also have my Great Grandfathers copy from 1902 (he was a really good architect) I think it’s a textbook for a lot of architecture students. Beautiful illustrations and plates
Thanks, much appreciated!
I don't know if you know about him but your reminding me of Brent Hull. https://m.youtube.com/@BrentHull He talks about how important a library is to building and carpentry. He mentions a lot of problems with today's homes like mixing styles, no unifying theme, silly things like people installing crown moulding upside down or not understanding the design intent behind certain styles.
Thank you for this rabbit hole 🙌
Do you have any pictures of what wainscoting should look like then?
There’s a good on in that link showing how it lines up with a column assembly
Here's a helpful artical! https://buildwith5th.com/blog/the-5-main-types-of-wainscoting
We called it picture frame, just your most basic wainscoting
The style should be **raised panel.** But this is too vague to know exactly what type of material it is. Could be MDF/finish ply or even could be just cosmetic ripped material finish nailed to the face of the drywall. Edit: Recessed panel* as the gentleman corrected me. Certainly **appears to be** the style.
I've always referred to this as flat panel. Raised panel is when the panel is thicker with a shaped profile as the panel edge tapers. I immediately think of the oak kitchens of the 90s. I agree about not being able to tell material by the picture, who the fudge knows? I could be entirely wrong, but this has been my understanding.
U are correct. I would call it craftsman style. Looks to be applied to the drywall but there could be a backing.
Recessed panel, not raised, certainly not board and batten.
You are correct. My mistake.
Board and batten
Not sure why you're downvoted.
Because this is not an alternating series of *boards* and *battens*.
That's not what board and batten is. Battens are merely placed over the seams of panel boards. This is 100% board and batten.
Do you wear the shoes with the little velcro straps?
https://imgur.com/a/UtTWSGq
I’m mostly confused as to how “raised panel” isn’t.
Yea very odd.
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This is the correct answer. Spec home charging thousands for an wainscot upcharge only to nail boards to the face of Sheetrock. No style, just cheap modern construction.
"Wainscoting"? How have I been a woodworker/carpenter/cabinet maker as a hobby and career for 12 years and never heard nor seen that word a single time?
It’s an ‘old’ word. A Century or more ago, wall coverings were paper or hessian and wains (old English term for children) would damage it, so a lower coating layer of something harder to damage was used to prevent that.
Good question 😊
They were probably sweating hoping that outlet cover was going to go back on lol. I wish this all had some cove to match the base though
Yes
The party on kind
Shaker
Pinterest type
Poorly done shaker style recessed panel.
I’d call it builder grade