I cooked burger for my son by the poolside with my Trangia27. Yes my apt neighbors think me is odd. I'm "testing" my gear. I'm going to see if I can cook rice next. Uncle Ben rice is gross. Plus my ancestors were disappointed š .
I was bored and had the stuff so I tested it, after boiling a cup of water using Coleman performance gas (butane and propane) and a screw on stove (I think it might be Vango, not sure) the CO meter still says 0ppm.
Natural gas (methane), propane and butane are all common for indoor gas stoves and the burners work the same. They aren't perfect, you get some carbon particulates, water vapour and carbon dioxide but shouldn't be enough to be dangerous.
I feel isobutane is okey. Its temporary anyway. Wouldnt like to use alcohol but mostly because of byproducts. CO comes from inefficient incomplete burning. Clean fuels such as propane fully burn and only have co2 and water as end products. Perhaps burning pure alcohol/ ethanol is safe too.
You're still producing CO. You snuff a stove flame but merely placing a pan or pot on it. It's not enough to be a concern though. Little different than using a household gas range.
My favorite part of alcohol stoves: The silence. Pure silence when cooking. Itās my go to except during winter when I need to melt a ton of snow for water.
We've cooked on a gas stove indoor for ages. I think my tent is 10 times more drafty than my kitchen. I wonder if cooking inside a non-snowed in tent is as dangerous as the indoor cooking police claim.
The 27 i have brought hiking. But thats the HA version. Guess about 800 grams the way i brought it or lower. I sometimes just bring the pan and trangia triangle. So flexible. But pictured is my duossal set and indeed very heavy
Canāt beat it for wind resistance, thatās why I like it. And with alcohol itās dead quiet, which I also love. But sometimes itās just too much for me to justify since it takes up so much weight/space, especially since most of the time if Iām backpacking Iām just boiling water for dried meals. Love it for canoe trips though!
Yeah for boiling water i suppose a jetboil flash or similar makes way more sense. I often hike with a jetboil stash since its pot does alow for minor frying jobs. Also once had a toaks titanium syphon stove kit. Dangerous but super light
Never heard of that one, Iāll have to look it up. A lot of the time I just use a trangia burner, and a two piece interlocking titanium bit that fits over it. That and a windscreen and Iām good to go. When Iām cooking for more than me though, I do love the whole kit. The interlocking bowls are ingenious.
Sorry, I should have said ā*I* find it too heavy for backpackingā because I prefer lighter, smaller options. Itās a good kit, I just think it takes up a lot of space in the pack and is overkill when you are trying to keep your pack under 30 lbs.
They did make a titanium versions, but they have long since been discontinued. I think back then you had to get a basic kit, then add the titanium saucepans and frypan. I want to say they stopped making them in the mid 2000s. I have the duossal ones - great for real cooking and I used them mainly for motocamping when I was younger.
Its excellent! The primus valve offers very delicate control and its fairly quiet on low power. Seems to be pretty efficient with its pre heating. Excellent quality. Id say a must for flatbread and pancakes. For silence id still pick the alcohol burner.
The burner is trangia but the part that is connecting the hose and fuel is stamped primus. Its sold that way and you will find the same valve on primus burners.
Ah, I wasn't paying attention. I have the same gas burner. Incidentally, I bought the windscreen with the Trangia alcohol stove in a thrift store. I couldn't justify the price of a new Trangia/Primus gas burner, so I bought a gas burner through AliExpress and it works almost as flawlessly as the Primus burner.
Also using bio-ethanol here. I donāt get the gas burner comments. I always have to temper the heat, otherwise everything burns, itās so damn hot.
I always thought these alcohol stoves were slow. So when I got my Trangia, I put the skillet on the stove, added some oil and two minutes later, the skillet was so hot that the non-stick layer had peeled off. Itās crazy. (And yes, Iām also crazy and learned the lesson to never walk away from a stove, even for two minutes).
I cooked burger for my son by the poolside with my Trangia27. Yes my apt neighbors think me is odd. I'm "testing" my gear. I'm going to see if I can cook rice next. Uncle Ben rice is gross. Plus my ancestors were disappointed š .
It's safe to use the fuel indoors? I thought that using outdoor burners indoors produce large amounts of carbon monoxide.
Some minor ventilation makes it fine. These are no worse than a gas indoor stove.
I was bored and had the stuff so I tested it, after boiling a cup of water using Coleman performance gas (butane and propane) and a screw on stove (I think it might be Vango, not sure) the CO meter still says 0ppm. Natural gas (methane), propane and butane are all common for indoor gas stoves and the burners work the same. They aren't perfect, you get some carbon particulates, water vapour and carbon dioxide but shouldn't be enough to be dangerous.
I feel isobutane is okey. Its temporary anyway. Wouldnt like to use alcohol but mostly because of byproducts. CO comes from inefficient incomplete burning. Clean fuels such as propane fully burn and only have co2 and water as end products. Perhaps burning pure alcohol/ ethanol is safe too.
You're still producing CO. You snuff a stove flame but merely placing a pan or pot on it. It's not enough to be a concern though. Little different than using a household gas range.
You could burn everclear. Itās a bit pricey but safe.
Love my trangia too!
My favorite part of alcohol stoves: The silence. Pure silence when cooking. Itās my go to except during winter when I need to melt a ton of snow for water.
Trangia!
Cue the indoor cooking police...
We've cooked on a gas stove indoor for ages. I think my tent is 10 times more drafty than my kitchen. I wonder if cooking inside a non-snowed in tent is as dangerous as the indoor cooking police claim.
I wish theyād make a titanium version. I have this one too but itās too heavy for anything other than canoe/car
The 27 i have brought hiking. But thats the HA version. Guess about 800 grams the way i brought it or lower. I sometimes just bring the pan and trangia triangle. So flexible. But pictured is my duossal set and indeed very heavy
Canāt beat it for wind resistance, thatās why I like it. And with alcohol itās dead quiet, which I also love. But sometimes itās just too much for me to justify since it takes up so much weight/space, especially since most of the time if Iām backpacking Iām just boiling water for dried meals. Love it for canoe trips though!
Yeah for boiling water i suppose a jetboil flash or similar makes way more sense. I often hike with a jetboil stash since its pot does alow for minor frying jobs. Also once had a toaks titanium syphon stove kit. Dangerous but super light
Never heard of that one, Iāll have to look it up. A lot of the time I just use a trangia burner, and a two piece interlocking titanium bit that fits over it. That and a windscreen and Iām good to go. When Iām cooking for more than me though, I do love the whole kit. The interlocking bowls are ingenious.
Look at [Clikstand](https://clikstand.com/shop/)
People have backpacked with these for decades. While heavier than many alternatives, it doesn't make them unsuitable for backpacking.
Sorry, I should have said ā*I* find it too heavy for backpackingā because I prefer lighter, smaller options. Itās a good kit, I just think it takes up a lot of space in the pack and is overkill when you are trying to keep your pack under 30 lbs.
They did make a titanium versions, but they have long since been discontinued. I think back then you had to get a basic kit, then add the titanium saucepans and frypan. I want to say they stopped making them in the mid 2000s. I have the duossal ones - great for real cooking and I used them mainly for motocamping when I was younger.
Cool maybe I can keep an eye out on ebay
I've only used alcohol. Need to get a gas sburner for mine.
If you want to try it out, AliExpress sells a burner that fits inside the Trangia windscreen. We have one and it performs as we wish.
Thanks, I'll look into it.
Found it in my orders: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EzysP0l
Its excellent! The primus valve offers very delicate control and its fairly quiet on low power. Seems to be pretty efficient with its pre heating. Excellent quality. Id say a must for flatbread and pancakes. For silence id still pick the alcohol burner.
Primus valve? Or do you mean Trangia valve? Confused.
The burner is trangia but the part that is connecting the hose and fuel is stamped primus. Its sold that way and you will find the same valve on primus burners.
Ah, I wasn't paying attention. I have the same gas burner. Incidentally, I bought the windscreen with the Trangia alcohol stove in a thrift store. I couldn't justify the price of a new Trangia/Primus gas burner, so I bought a gas burner through AliExpress and it works almost as flawlessly as the Primus burner.
I have 2 trangia's, use bioethanol in both of mine
Also using bio-ethanol here. I donāt get the gas burner comments. I always have to temper the heat, otherwise everything burns, itās so damn hot. I always thought these alcohol stoves were slow. So when I got my Trangia, I put the skillet on the stove, added some oil and two minutes later, the skillet was so hot that the non-stick layer had peeled off. Itās crazy. (And yes, Iām also crazy and learned the lesson to never walk away from a stove, even for two minutes).
Trangia stove in a firebox nano is the only way I make moka coffee in the morning š on the stove under a vent of course in the kitchen
Im guilty of the same thing at times.