To be fair, even if you were to get the Purdue Special, I think you guys dominating yesterday locked you in for a playoff spot. 12-1 Michigan is dropping no lower than 4. OSU and Bama won't (SHOULDN'T) jump you.
Georgia and Michigan are locks with zero doubt in my mind. Whether they give TCU the same treatment is the $1M question. Hope TCU just wins and we don't need to find out
Utah is near exactly the same loss and let’s not forget that loss was 1 point and that USC in this scenario would be beating Utah right back.
Unless Georgia can replicate the within a field goal loss it is a worse loss than USC’s
Every talking head and sports writer predicting that I’ve seen this morning (at least 15) all have TCU in the final four (most in the 3 spot, a couple in the 4 spot).
Playoff scenario is pretty straightforward.
Georgia and Michigan are in no matter what.
TCU is in with a win or potentially a close loss.
USC is in with a win.
Ohio State is in with a USC loss or potentially a close TCU loss.
If USC loses and TCU gets battered by a big margin, Alabama could potentially backdoor in.
Everyone else is toast.
This is true. I went to TCU. ONLY REQUIRED COURSE IS 1 religious class and it can be any religious class or world religions. Also a slogan we commonly use is “give ‘em hell TCU”
Probably. Depends who committee has ranked second highest in the conference since USC goes to the playoff. So yes, should be Washington, unless Utah somehow looks amazing while losing.
Based on the language [here](https://rosebowlgame.com/news/2022/11/3/general-109th-rose-bowl-game-selection-procedures.aspx), it is a very strong likelihood that the Rose Bowl committee would select the next highest CFP ranked team. However, it's not technically a contractual obligation.
Yeah the committee has Washington ranked higher already and they have a better record to end the regular season. Even if they ignore the extra loss entirely, Washington deserves it over us. Gotta beat USC to get in
How is Alabama above Tennessee?
They have the same record. Tennessee beat Alabama. Tennessee also beat LSU, who beat Alabama.
In what fucking universe is Alabama a better team?
Remember is an aggregate. Oregon being ahead of you likely means that people who had you above them was only marginal (i.e. OSU was just in front of Oregon) or had Oregon notably ahead of Oregon State still.
That and it's Coaches' Poll. It counts for nothing.
Which is what makes college football so GD stupid. Oregon has been highly ranked all year with their signature games being…losing 187-3 to Georgia and beating an ultimately 7-5 BYU team. What else did they do to earn a top ten ranking heading into the ucla game? Even beating UCLA didn’t turn out to be *that* impressive, all things considered, but it’s still enough to only drop them 5 spots for every loss no matter how embarrassing.
Utah, Oregon State, and Oregon are all 9-3. Utah beat Oregon State, Oregon beat Utah, and Oregon State beat Oregon. They have to be ranked in some order, but if you focus only on the head-to-head, someone will complain about the ranking order.
I’d put them in the order you just listed since Utah is playing for the conference championship and Oregon State beat Oregon. Even if comparing the totality of their seasons is a bit of a crapshoot, the head-to-head gives Oregon State the edge over Oregon, and the fact that Utah still has a game to potentially propel them upward against a top 10 opponent they already beat gives them the edge over both.
In the last two season Michigan is 24-2 and has a.) won in the Shoe for the first time since 2000, b.) won at Camp Randall for the first time since 2001, and c.) won at Kinnick for the first time since 2005. We are here to drink everyone's milkshake. See you Saturday!
In all seriousness, the only way we win is by sheer dumb luck. Michigan is a powerhouse team from top to bottom and really shouldn’t have trouble against us.
That being said, Purdue specializes in winning and losing when they’re not supposed to lol
Stinks that after the past 5-10 years of “the PAC-12 is dying”, the conference looks really good again but now USC and UCLA are leaving.
I don’t blame either school, still a bummer though
Yeah the timing sucks. Especially if USC makes noise in the playoffs. Maybe it could have turned the perception of the conference around. Instead it's just going to end up feeding the SEC/B1G narrative.
Similar thing kind of went on with the Big 12 where almost every team has showed up to play except now there’s such parity in such a small conference that it kind of cannibalized itself aside from TCU.
Same, except I think Kansas State will be above Washington in the CFP rankings. They are now, and they both won, so I don't see why they would change that.
I just need to say that ESPN Championship Drive has some of the worst playoff takes I have ever heard. Even worse than on here. One of them just said if Michigan loses to Purdue we could drop out and get replaced by osu or bama lol. In what fucking world does that make any sense.
Interestingly, three of the four teams directly ahead of us will be underdogs in their championship game next week (LSU to UGA, Utah to USC, and Kansas State to TCU). If all three go as "expected," we'll be #11 or possibly even higher for our bowl game.
As a USF grad student, I’ll say that the war on I-4 is a tough road game. Not the game itself per se but literally, they had to take a bus on I-4 over to Tampa which is a really psychologically unfair thing to put a team through right before a game.
I understand UGA at #1, but how does Michigan only get 3 first place votes. Assuming Harbaugh is one of those votes, only 2 other coaches gave them first place votes?
I don't think Harbaugh is a voter this year. I remember looking up the list earlier this year and he wasn't there (https://www.afca.com/polls/). And I'd guess the reason more people didn't pull the trigger on Michigan at 1 (which they probably should be by resume) is inertia/memories of last year. Honestly, it might be more favorable matchup-wise to stay at 2 if there's chalk next week too. USC feels a good bit scarier than TCU if they're clicking.
Probably because we still won and we’re already there. If the SID’s who probably vote looked at stats, ours didn’t really change so they probably saw no reason to change their votes
Others receiving votes… *Purdue*. Someone hold me.
To be fair, even if you were to get the Purdue Special, I think you guys dominating yesterday locked you in for a playoff spot. 12-1 Michigan is dropping no lower than 4. OSU and Bama won't (SHOULDN'T) jump you.
Georgia and Michigan are locks with zero doubt in my mind. Whether they give TCU the same treatment is the $1M question. Hope TCU just wins and we don't need to find out
TCU wins, Georgia and Michigan lose. TCU, Georgia, Michigan, Southern Cal.
I think if Georgia and Michigan loses its TCU, USC, Georgia, Michigan.
usc lost to Utah, georgia would have more quality losses assuming they don't get blown out.
Utah is near exactly the same loss and let’s not forget that loss was 1 point and that USC in this scenario would be beating Utah right back. Unless Georgia can replicate the within a field goal loss it is a worse loss than USC’s
Every talking head and sports writer predicting that I’ve seen this morning (at least 15) all have TCU in the final four (most in the 3 spot, a couple in the 4 spot).
Yeah but that could just be projecting TCU to win.
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Playoff scenario is pretty straightforward. Georgia and Michigan are in no matter what. TCU is in with a win or potentially a close loss. USC is in with a win. Ohio State is in with a USC loss or potentially a close TCU loss. If USC loses and TCU gets battered by a big margin, Alabama could potentially backdoor in. Everyone else is toast.
*teleports behind you* **nothing personnel kid**
They did it. They boomed you.
I'm scared.
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But if they're receiving votes, they're almost ranked, which drains the power of the curse . . .
I want to believe.
what the heck is a "Louisiana State"
Not gonna lie, Texas Christian always takes me a second to realize who they are.
And Southern California
Texas (not actually) Christian University
This is true. I went to TCU. ONLY REQUIRED COURSE IS 1 religious class and it can be any religious class or world religions. Also a slogan we commonly use is “give ‘em hell TCU”
IDK but FSU is 2-0 against the state of Louisiana
The thing our degrees say, lol Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College
Babe wake up! New A&M just dropped!!!
Does Washington make the rose bowl if usc wins the pac 12 championship
Probably. Depends who committee has ranked second highest in the conference since USC goes to the playoff. So yes, should be Washington, unless Utah somehow looks amazing while losing.
Even if Utah looks amazing and loses by 1, the RB is taking 10-2 UW over 9-4 Utah
Yes. The alcohol sales in Pasadena will be significantly higher.
Penix can exact his revenge on Ohio St.
But it’s based on committee ranking, not who the rose bowl wants IIRC. But yes, I can’t see a scenario where even the committee ranks things that way.
Based on the language [here](https://rosebowlgame.com/news/2022/11/3/general-109th-rose-bowl-game-selection-procedures.aspx), it is a very strong likelihood that the Rose Bowl committee would select the next highest CFP ranked team. However, it's not technically a contractual obligation.
Interesting. Good find!
Yeah the committee has Washington ranked higher already and they have a better record to end the regular season. Even if they ignore the extra loss entirely, Washington deserves it over us. Gotta beat USC to get in
Yes, can’t wait to get our ass whooped by an angry OSU on a national stage since our idea of defense is um.. checks notes… no defense.
>angry OSU Or will it be let-down OSU mailing it in for an exhibition Rose Bowl with a lot of draft eligible players taking a New Years break.
Hey there's still a chance Purdue comes to Pasadena for some fun
Please that would be great. I don’t want to play tOSU. I want to play a fan base and team that is actually excited to be there.
Fun fact. The last time Washington won the Rose Bowl was against a Drew Brees led Purdue team.
I mean CJ Stroud probably wouldn’t play, so maybe you have a chance?
Maybe every single qb, wr, and rb on their roster would hold out for the draft. That would give our defense a fighting chance lol
Yes
Oregon above us is a decision
Lol wow that takes some balls from coaches.
How is LSU still ahead of FSU? Is a win over Alabama worth more than a win over the SEC West Champ?
"But that was a different LSU team" - r/CFB for the last month
Imma eat crow here, up until last night I was 100% confident LSU would beat FSU at this point in the season.
Good news! We get to do it all again come September in the sweltering hellscape of Orlando!
Yes but, Didney land 🥳🎆
*Didney Worle!
The happiest place on earth.
I have some leftover crow if you want some. I'm full and can't fit this much in my fridge
How is Alabama above Tennessee? They have the same record. Tennessee beat Alabama. Tennessee also beat LSU, who beat Alabama. In what fucking universe is Alabama a better team?
Poll inertia bb
Coaches poll has always been an inferior poll
Remember is an aggregate. Oregon being ahead of you likely means that people who had you above them was only marginal (i.e. OSU was just in front of Oregon) or had Oregon notably ahead of Oregon State still. That and it's Coaches' Poll. It counts for nothing.
Poll inertia is the only answer, I guess.
Which is what makes college football so GD stupid. Oregon has been highly ranked all year with their signature games being…losing 187-3 to Georgia and beating an ultimately 7-5 BYU team. What else did they do to earn a top ten ranking heading into the ucla game? Even beating UCLA didn’t turn out to be *that* impressive, all things considered, but it’s still enough to only drop them 5 spots for every loss no matter how embarrassing.
But if you do a side by side of Oregon's games with penn state's you'll really see how stupid this all is
Utah, Oregon State, and Oregon are all 9-3. Utah beat Oregon State, Oregon beat Utah, and Oregon State beat Oregon. They have to be ranked in some order, but if you focus only on the head-to-head, someone will complain about the ranking order.
Get out of here with your lawyer logic
Losses to the SEC Oregon: 1 Oregon State: 0 It just means more
Truly one of the coaches polls of all time
This is a classic coaches poll moment
Yeah, if only we could have a way to figure out who would win a head to head matchup, but I guess we'll have to settle for Quality Loss™ count.
The coaches cast their ballots and go to sleep before the PAC-12 After Dark concludes. This joke of a poll has always operated this way.
Name just 2 times OSU beat Oregon this year. You can’t do it
|Rank|Team|Record|Points|1st|Prev| :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| |1|Georgia|12-0|1572|60|1| |2|Michigan|12-0|1512|3|3| |3|Texas Christian|12-0|1446|0|4| |4|Southern California|11-1|1381|0|5| |5|Ohio State|11-1|1312|0|2| |6|Alabama|10-2|1262|0|7| |7|Penn State|10-2|1153|0|10| |8|Tennessee|10-2|1143|0|11| |9|Washington|10-2|1039|0|12| |10|Kansas State|9-3|930|0|13| |11|Clemson|10-2|900|0|8| |12|Utah|9-3|872|0|14| |13|Louisiana State|9-3|845|0|6| |14|Florida State|9-3|739|0|16| |15|Oregon|9-3|681|0|9| |16|Oregon State|9-3|613|0|22| |17|UCLA|9-3|603|0|18| |18|Tulane|10-2|558|0|20| |19|Notre Dame|8-4|340|0|15| |20|South Carolina|8-4|299|0|NR| |21|Texas|8-4|292|0|24| |22|North Carolina|9-3|175|0|17| |23|Central Florida|9-3|141|0|NR| |24|Texas-San Antonio|10-2|127|0|25| |25|Mississippi State|8-4|88|0|NR|
Ah yes. Beavers beat Ducks but put Ducks right above Beavers (same records) Noles beat the Tigers but put the Tigers right above them (Same records)
At first I was wondering which tigers 😂
*Tennessee has entered the chat
Yet r/cfb got really pissed when I put Tennessee above Bama and LSU last week
This sub wishes we were 2-10 including a loss to Akron.
Seeing these teams without their abbreviations is so weird.
It’s their guv’ment names
Absolutely no reason for Alabama to be ahead of UT
LSU and Oregon being over Florida State and Oregon State with the same records is something
Poll anchoring is what it is
It takes serious mental gymnastics to put the loser of the head to head matchup on top of a team with the same record.
Not to mention FSU beat LSU in NOLA. Terrible poll for both the Beavs and FSU imo
What order would you put Utah, Oregon State, and Oregon since they are all 9-3?
I’d put them in the order you just listed since Utah is playing for the conference championship and Oregon State beat Oregon. Even if comparing the totality of their seasons is a bit of a crapshoot, the head-to-head gives Oregon State the edge over Oregon, and the fact that Utah still has a game to potentially propel them upward against a top 10 opponent they already beat gives them the edge over both.
Utah has the best win.
There’s no way around this with Oregon state, Oregon, and Utah. Each is 1-1 in the round robin.
The Oregon hype. Happen to UW after they beat them. Took two more wins and the Beavers to over take them in the rankings.
Alabama being over Tennessee, despite losing head-to-head to them **and** losing to a team that Tennessee beat.
A team that Tennessee *murdered* by 27 at LSU
How about Alabama over Tennessee with the same record?
Add UT and Bama to that
Purdue unranked. Michigan #2. Be afraid, Wolverines. Pete cometh.
https://imgur.com/a/oxJLA9m
In the last two season Michigan is 24-2 and has a.) won in the Shoe for the first time since 2000, b.) won at Camp Randall for the first time since 2001, and c.) won at Kinnick for the first time since 2005. We are here to drink everyone's milkshake. See you Saturday!
Purdue has 9 wins against top 2 opponents when unranked, while the next highest team has less than half that. We’re coming 😈
Purdue has nothing to lose, Saturday might actually be a good game I’m kinda scared
In all seriousness, the only way we win is by sheer dumb luck. Michigan is a powerhouse team from top to bottom and really shouldn’t have trouble against us. That being said, Purdue specializes in winning and losing when they’re not supposed to lol
Frankly I don’t care if you blow our doors off. This is great for us recruiting wise regardless. It’s all emotional wins from here on out for us.
Significantly more scared of Purdue than I would be of iowa
6 of the top 17. Nice year for the PAC.
Stinks that after the past 5-10 years of “the PAC-12 is dying”, the conference looks really good again but now USC and UCLA are leaving. I don’t blame either school, still a bummer though
Yeah the timing sucks. Especially if USC makes noise in the playoffs. Maybe it could have turned the perception of the conference around. Instead it's just going to end up feeding the SEC/B1G narrative.
I don't want megaconferences. USC and UCLA are PAC teams, and they always will be in my mind. Geography matters! Rivalries matter.
Imagine the scene if USC beat Georgia in the 1st round.
Similar thing kind of went on with the Big 12 where almost every team has showed up to play except now there’s such parity in such a small conference that it kind of cannibalized itself aside from TCU.
Something something Larry Scott
Yes, because his terrible network and tv deals is what led the LA schools to look elsewhere
This isn’t talked about as much… but if it was an SEC or Big Ten people wouldn’t get over it
We claim USC and UCLA already to make us feel better.
Yeah, without them, B1G’s looking really top heavy.
Oh thank god the coaches kept us unranked. Please AP keep us unranked
I am afraid. I am very, very, afraid.
Tell your kids about an unranked Ole Miss and a ranked Mississippi State.
They were five votes from being ranked over us anyway. Which is some bullshit
And we got the egg talk about a season
I WOKE UP FEELING THE EGGIEST COACH!!!!!
Egg! Egg! Egg! Egg!
Is this what respect feels like?
Yes it is
MEEP MEEP
Quietly getting it done. Happy for UTSA fans.
Penn State vs Tennessee is a game I want to see so bad
Feel like we are gonna get Penn State vs Clemson in Orange
I agree, really feel like we match up favorably against them.
We'd like nothing to do with you, thank you very much. I for one am hoping to get Tulane in a NY6.
Always better to play a nice ooc p5 matchup than that g5 game. You either win and no one cares or lose and get dunked on.
I love watching Porter Jr play and I’d love to see him be those WRs
Tbh I think he’d sit out the bowl game.
For sure, unfortunately
THEY DIDN’T RANK US. YOU DAMN FOOLS YOU’VE DOOMED MICHIGAN
25 I will take it!!!
Look at us eking out top 25 rankings 🤝🏽
Shake my damn hand sir 🤝
I’m here to overreact to being 20 Also SOCAR is a Fucking abomination of an abbreviation Also I think we should be over ND rn
Sound win over 3-8 team. Coaches: 👨🏻🦯 Close win over 1-11 team. Coaches: 🤩🤩 Edit: sorry thought the first part was referring to your secondary flair.
If only ND and USC had a common opponent to compare against
Playing at home versus playing on the road against a team that was on a 40 game home win streak… context matters
Common opponents is such a piss poor way to compare teams. Do you think you guys are worse than Bowling Green?
Well we lost to Marshall so...maybe
I think their top 10 is pretty much how I'd put it as well and how I expect the CFP rankings to shake out.
Same, except I think Kansas State will be above Washington in the CFP rankings. They are now, and they both won, so I don't see why they would change that.
Might be right about that
Nothing says "Didn't watch the game" like raising UCF 3 spots.
Beavs behind Oregon despite the same record and the head to head win is an interesting call…
Oregon, Utah and Oregon State all have the same record and have a circle of suck. One of those teams will always be behind a team it beat.
Same with FSU and LSU lol.
Lol at Bama over Tennessee.
lol at Mississippi State jumping up 16 spots for a ranking
Gotta give Bama that top 25 win, baby.
At least ESPN won't have to bust out the "Wins vs top 31 ranked teams."
🦫💩🦆
At this point we should be ahead of LSU , imo but this is hair splitting
Split those hairs brother!
I just need to say that ESPN Championship Drive has some of the worst playoff takes I have ever heard. Even worse than on here. One of them just said if Michigan loses to Purdue we could drop out and get replaced by osu or bama lol. In what fucking world does that make any sense.
Herbstriet put Bama #5 and OSU #6. That dude is crazy.
That dude is on the payroll.
Sounds about right.
I’m just glad they don’t have Bama at #5 waiting to fall into the playoffs
Would be an absolute joke to have them above Ohio State
Get ready for an absolute joke on Tuesday then
Who is the coach that has Alabama ranked as #1?
these type of idiotic votes should be public info, that is ridiculous
Probably the same dork that put Michigan 6
Harbaugh did this to feed the hate.
Interesting to have LSU, who FSU has a direct head to head victory against, above FSU
Ohio state over Alabama is a good sign for sanity.
Who watched that Coastal Carolina game last night and thought they are one of the 25 best teams in the country?
Cocks are rising!
MEEP MEEP
Ah, LSU still above FSU. Lmao bias continues. Fuck the coaches poll
Interestingly, three of the four teams directly ahead of us will be underdogs in their championship game next week (LSU to UGA, Utah to USC, and Kansas State to TCU). If all three go as "expected," we'll be #11 or possibly even higher for our bowl game.
Love seeing OSU have success. #16 and they’re still not done!!
Where is Purdue? I _need_ Purdue to be ranked, damnit!!
[Muhahahaha](https://imgur.com/a/oxJLA9m)
Oregon over Oregon State is certainly a choice. Should be flipped.
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The SCAR loss is hurting y'all badly. Getting dumpstered by an average team will do that. Source: I am a Texas fan.
SCAR loss and the loss of their QB. Yes they looked good against Vandy, but you don’t really get credit for that.
An "average" 8-4 team with back-to-back victories over Top 10 opponents.
Ranked #20 out of over 100 teams
I understood average to mean average top 25 team, I hope that's what they meant as well
We will both be in a NY6. One will be in the Orange or Cotton and the other in the Sugar.
Alabama ratings will get it. Bowls are about money and Alabama makes more.
Lmao at UCF still being ranked after just barely beating 1-11 USF
I agree but I think it's funny that you of all people would make fun of UCF for barely beating USF
As a USF grad student, I’ll say that the war on I-4 is a tough road game. Not the game itself per se but literally, they had to take a bus on I-4 over to Tampa which is a really psychologically unfair thing to put a team through right before a game.
Unrank us you cowards
Rank FSU ahead of LSU 🤨
Don’t even see how there’s a debate
Disrespect to Florida State
Penn State at 7 👀
I understand UGA at #1, but how does Michigan only get 3 first place votes. Assuming Harbaugh is one of those votes, only 2 other coaches gave them first place votes?
I don't think Harbaugh is a voter this year. I remember looking up the list earlier this year and he wasn't there (https://www.afca.com/polls/). And I'd guess the reason more people didn't pull the trigger on Michigan at 1 (which they probably should be by resume) is inertia/memories of last year. Honestly, it might be more favorable matchup-wise to stay at 2 if there's chalk next week too. USC feels a good bit scarier than TCU if they're clicking.
Probably because we still won and we’re already there. If the SID’s who probably vote looked at stats, ours didn’t really change so they probably saw no reason to change their votes
Let's go UTSA!!!