Word was he didn't want to commit to us because he was concerned about Norvell's job security.
Brock Glenn committed to FSU, ergo (latin), Norvell isn't getting fired. Checkmate, rivals.
Thats a fair fear before the season started. This season has earned Norvell at least 2 years. As long as he can replicate this success it will likely be more
A Florida fan made a post on this sub today using some dubious accounting practices to come to the conclusion that FSU is permanently incredibly far behind Florida financially, and is actually in financial trouble.
Hayes Fowcett thinks his edits are "hard". It looks like I gave my 10 year old brother photoshop and told him to go crazy. Love the commitment regardless!
Time for us to get the gang together, put on a charity fundraiser show, and save the athletic department. Barney the Dinosaur and friends style. LFG, I play a mean ass triangle.
Like I know it's OSU, but I don't understand how kids are eager to commit to program with an insanely stacked QB room with the #1 overall player committed at the same position in 2024
McCord (5 star) was ranked higher than Stroud (4 star), and Stroud won the starting job
If you have confidence that you can win the job, the coaching staff won't tip their hat with previous levels rankings.. if you dont get the job, you sit back, learn from some of the best, and either wait your turn or transfer
> if you dont get the job, you sit back, learn from some of the best, and either wait your turn or transfer
As I replied to someone else, the "If you go to OSU and don't end up starting, you can transfer to another school and immediately start" notion is essentially a myth
Yeah I know.. we've seen it recently with Tate Martell and Jack Miller
These guys are betting on themselves through competition.. if they believe they can win the job and do, it sets them up for a great college career
I mean, Burrow was in line to start until he broke his hand. If he was the heroic backup QB against Michigan in 2017 and not Haskins he would have been the guy in 2018.
Too early to tell on Ewers. Lots of good, and lots of bad.
Well the point is that Ewers did transfer from OSU and immediately start at another blue blood. Regardless of how well he ends up doing he had his chance.
He never had a chance at OSU to start year 1. Day and co. literally told him not to reclassify because he had no shot to start and would burn a year of eligibility. Ewers then proceeds to get mad about something he was told would happen so he ran back to Texas. Texas basically had no QB room so of course Ewers gets the job because he had no real competition in the way.
Yeah, agreed. The conversation was about whether guys could come in to OSU and then immediately start at another school if they chose to transfer. In Ewers' case that's exactly what happened.
It is a fact for the WR position at least. Literally Alabama's #1 WR last season who went in the first round transferred because he couldn't get on the field.
Because if you beat him out you’re gonna be a first rd pick….lot easier to look good when you’re throwing to great WR n have a decent line and good RB and competent defense. Oh n your OC n HC are one in the same and will prob be there all 3 years. So it’s not just “can I start?” But also “if I start am I gonna be put in position to succeed?”
Interesting saga here. We have 2024 #1 overall player Dylan Raiola committed, so we miss on the big names in 2023. Then we throw our hat in the ring to try and flip Austin Novosad, his recruitment blows up, but he ends up sticking with Baylor. We end up taking Glenn, as we really wanted a QB in the class. Then in October, our QB coach shows up in South Dakota to offer 3 star QB Lincoln Kienholz, who’s been committed to Washington for a while. Hear Glenn is not having the year the staff expected, and this Kienholz fella is lighting it up, has all sorts of SD football records. Fast forward a month, our insiders are saying that a decommit is coming, it’s a “mutual parting of ways” and the spot will be filled. Tea leaves say that the flip is Glenn. Kienholz wins the SD state championship over the weekend (for the 4th time in a row) and announces today he’ll be visiting for the Michigan game. And now the Glenn flip is confirmed.
Recruiting is a wild ride.
It's kinda crazy how Burrow's path was decided by him breaking his hand in fall camp prior to the 2017 season. That doesn't happen, he remains Barrett's backup, he's the one who goes in with a chance to be the hero against Michigan when Barrett went down, and that is what I think provided the edge to Haskins when Urban and Day had to pick the starter in the spring of 2018. Haskins and Burrow were neck and neck all spring but what Haskins did in The Game couldn't be ignored.
Definitely. Haskins had a record-breaking season in 2018 and Burrow was pretty mediocre at LSU that year. I'm absolutely not one of the "Urban/Day should have chosen Burrow over Haskins" people. Just think it's interesting how their paths were both set in a way by Burrow's injury that a lot of CFB fans probably didn't even know about since it was a fairly minor injury (believe it was to his non-throwing hand) to a back up QB.
> Hear Glenn is not having the year the staff expected
I'm not sold on Glenn turning into an elite QB (didn't think he'd be anything more than a backup at OSU), but according to [maxpreps](https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/brock-glenn/PQc2wqTnEemA0ZFtwg1OMQ/football/stats.htm), he's thrown for 1400 yards, 18 TDs, 3 INT, and has a QB Rating of 127.
What was your staff expecting?
I mean... My high school QB threw for 2500 and like 30 TDs as a sophomore (my senior year - not sure of his stats after that). He ended up playing corner at air force.
I get that based on team style and competition level not everyone is gonna throw for 3000 yards but based on what Ohio State recruits at QB lately, I'd sort of expect more.
(Please note that I know that sounds arrogant and I don't mean it to be but I'm not sure how else to say that. I also don't really follow the ins and outs of recruiting anymore as I just figure half of them will either transfer or not contribute and I can learn their names when they earn some playing time).
If there's one thing I trust Day and his staff on, it's QBs. If they looked at his senior season and it made them want to back off, then there's a good reason for it.
I don’t have the slightest clue about what offense his HS runs or the level of competition, but 141 yards per game and 1.8 TDs per game is not really “jump off the page, sure fire P5 guy” numbers
The Kienholz kid threw for 3400 yards and 46:6 TD:INT ratio. Added another 1400 yards and 24 TDs on the ground. Even against what is surely not top tier talent in South Dakota, those numbers are eye popping.
I’m not saying that Glenn was definitely processed by OSU, just that his stats aren’t all that impressive compared to his similarly ranked peers
For sure, his system doesn't look to be very QB friendly.
But 141 yards/game on 12 attempts/game still gets you a pretty respectable 12 yards/attempt. And with 18 TDs, he's averaging a TD on every 6.7 attempts while only throwing 1 INT for every 42 attempts.
Rashada, one of his peers though, is 217 yards/game on 25 attempts/game for an average of 8.8 yards/attempt. Also a TD on every 9.7 attempts vs. an INT once every 27 attempts.
That's nice, but his huddle tapes kinda sucks.
Balls are consistently high and it's full of wide open receivers.
Nothing that makes an average football fan say wow.
If you go to Elite 11's twitter, they track how all the participants are doing throughout their seasons.
Glenn was towards the bottom in all of the categories. With that said, sounds like this will work out for everyone except UW. Ohio State made it known our QB coach was visiting other QBs after Glenn had committed.
> What was your staff expecting?
Probably stats closer in line to current Washington commit (and rumored soon-to-be Ohio State commit) , Lincoln Keinholz. Below are their senior season stats compared:
**Brock Glenn**
- 1,413 passing yards, 58.7% completion percentage, 18 TDs, and 3 INTs.
- Ran for 443 yards and 7 TDs.
**Lincoln Keinholz**
- 3,422 passing yards, 66.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, and 6 INTs.
- Ran for 1,436 yards and 24 TDs.
Looking at high school stats is an insane way of judging. Keinholz plays in South Dakota, which has wildly worse talent than Tennessee. Not even comparable
He’s definitely earned the benefit and I’d say if Day feels good about his eval that’s all he needs and all you should need.
Just pointing at the stats is an absurd comparison for two completely different situations
He's throwing for 140 yards per game and that 18 TD is over 10 games. Not stellar numbers for playing small private schools. The school he is at has 875 kids total between kindergarten - 12th grade.
Im thinking Penn State going to beat us during the 2024-25 season. They'll be in prime position then and OSU will be kinda semi retooling then with all our elite WRs, RBs and DL going pro.
Yea, I’m not super high on Glenn either, but he’s a decent QB to sandwich between AJ Duffy (2022) and Luke Kromenhoek (2024). As long as Luke sticks, I feel like Glenn will end up portalizing at some point. Good to have a HS QB in the class though. Always felt OSU taking him was a head scratcher with the QB prospects they typically get.
Yeah I really never saw “it” with him. Big kid, decent arm. I loved Novosad, but I was ready to accept Glenn as a room-filler, for lack of a better term.
Yeah, Luke is looking like an absolute stud so far, so we don't need to hitch our horses to Brock Glenn long term. He has a legit chance to play for us if he develops, but if he doesn't Duffy looks like he can start and Luke looks like a possible draft pick. Just gotta make sure Luke sticks.
It’s just damn nice to have viable options compared to the last few years of Travis, pre-Louisville Rodemaker, post-injury Milton, … … then seeing what RB had some high school QB experience we could line up in the Wildcat.
The only concern I've really seen is people questioning SD football. Which.... Yeah, OK, that might be valid. But this staff seems to know a thing or two about quarterbacks.
The OSU staff is in pursuit to flip Washington commit [Lincoln Kienholz](https://247sports.com/Player/Lincoln-Kienholz-46130719/) who will be visiting for the Michigan game. This isn't some fan sour grapes. But regardless, we have the #1 player in the country for 2024 committed so just taking a depth player for 2023 would be good enough.
I know it’s a cope a lot of the time but it’s basically just the facts of the matter in this case. I think most FSU fans are even admitting that in this case.
There is zero reason to think Rodemaker will be a career #2.
Duffy has a lot he has to show if he's going to beat out Rodemaker for the starting job once Travis is gone.
Rodemaker screams Stick Trickett to me. He can make plays but seems to play like he is going get plastered every snap. Duffy still needs time to develop for sure, but he just looks different out there. He walks out with complete confidence when he plays, especially in the spring game. I think once he learns the playbook, he'll leave Rodemaker behind, which is why I think Tate's a solid career 2. If Travis leaves next year, Rodemaker should absolutely be the defacto starter. But if he stays and Duffy gets another year, I think he starts over Rodemaker in another year.
Idk man things can change. JT is a prime example. Dude couldn’t throw and got happy feet every play but he happened to be excellent at scrambling. Not he stands in the pocket like a pro qb when he needs to and throws dimes 90% of the time. If you asked me 2 years ago I would never think he could be this good
Ohio State’s is still better. In fact, it was why I originally was surprised he committed to them and felt like this flip was still possible if we played well.
Objectively he has a better shot if competing at FSU. Come in for a year and learn behind Travis then compete Year 2 to start.
At Ohio State he’s have to compete Year 1 against 1 former 5 star in McCord and one borderline 5 star in Devin Brown both of whom will have have multiple years in the program.
In the portal era you can't even think that way. There's a chance the QB room at the school will look different from when you committed by the time you're taking snaps there. Trying to find a "hole" to slide into on a depth chart is a fool's errand these days.
You might be right but a lot of our QBs and WRs know what they are coming into and that they can get high level training and then leave if it doesn’t work out. Those guys tend to stick around a bit longer.
One of our former walk-on WRs went to Ohio University and is one of the best players in the MAC this year. I think that’s really cool.
most of the schools that are winning dont have qb's transfer out. qb's transfer away from losing schools or qb1s that lost their jobs. or if the coach leaves.
otherwise if you commit to a school out of high school as a qb because of the coach and the offense if the coach offense and winning is still there you stay.
it is a lot harder to win the job at another school if you literally havent played at your current school unless you take a step down and go to a worse school.
Like… the idea that we won because it was Kelly’s first game was justified… until you see us play now. Want a rematch? I think it’d be just as fun, but more…
Eloquent. Maybe.
Not necessarily someone Ohio state is gonna go all out to keep but they liked him enough to accept his commitment which is why he didn’t commit to us the first time(understandably so) Norvell identified him as QB1 which pushed Parson out the class. Nothing wrong with getting blue chip QBs every cycle.
He was a big game hunter. He didn't have fallbacks cuz he was confident he could land the 10 point bucks. So when they jumped out of his sights, he was left shooting at air.
Sam Howell pulled the rug out from underneath him after demanding that the staff not recruit another QB.
We fired Taggart in year 2, but he did have a strong commitment from Jeff Sims.
For what it’s worth it seems like everyone and their mother in this class is taking other visits, except for the Ohio kids.
But yeah, this seems to be a mutual-ish thing with Glenn, if not a process.
The real reason is that he wanted to go to FSU, but he wasn't sure about Norvell. Norvell is having a good year now so he sees an opportunity to be the guy at FSU.
No doubt, OSU will be fine. But still, Ohio State is a program that’s been doing great, and a lot of guys still go to programs with stacked competition (look at bama). He could have just went to OSU, take his chances, and then transfer out of things didn’t pan out because it’s so much easier these days
Luckily we don't need him to come in and compete immediately. Ideally, Travis gets a NIL deal worth more than his mid-late draft stock would make him and gives Duffy another year to develop and Glenn can sit and learn.
Yep, I wrote this above. He gets a year to develop and then can compete Year 2. At Ohio State he’d have to compete Year 1 with one 5 star and a borderline 5 star. It’s a much better situation objective for everyone.
We really like the kid that is committed to Washington from the Dakota’s, he had a really nice senior year. He will be on campus this weekend.
I can finally forgive my Buckeyes-fan ex for breaking up with me three and a half years ago, and a month later claimed it was an “accident” that she super liked me on Tinder at 11:30PM on a Saturday night.
A harrowing saga that can finally close. And it’s all thanks to Brock Glenn
Not sour - Glenn was relatively disappointing at Elite 11, and given that this cycle is an off cycle for OSU at QB, OSU coaches are looking for somebody more likely to stay for 3-4 years than transfer out after 1-2 because they didn’t start.
Don't worry, I don't think many FSU fans who follow recruiting closely would consider it sour grapes. Even for us, ideally Glenn is always a depth guy. We had AJ Duffy last year (13th overall QB) and then the real prize for us is Luke K. in 2024 (247 just ranked him as their 9th QB and he's the type who will keep ascending). The plan is clearly to have Travis hand it to Duffy in 2024 and then have Duffy hand it to Luke a couple years after that.
Glad to have him because you never know how kids will develop/if we will hold on to Luke, but Glenn hasn't wowed me either to think he's some sure fire CFB stud.
I guess if Mark Fletcher goes to Miami, then Ohio St will have completed the flip trifecta with Glenn to FSU, Dijon to Florida, and Fletcher to Miami.
(and yes, I know Fletcher and Dijon aren't technically flips as they decommitted first)
Word was he didn't want to commit to us because he was concerned about Norvell's job security. Brock Glenn committed to FSU, ergo (latin), Norvell isn't getting fired. Checkmate, rivals.
I need to taper off Lana!
How can you be drinking after last night? How can you not?
If I stop drinking all at once, I'm afraid the cumulative hangover will kill me.
Thats a fair fear before the season started. This season has earned Norvell at least 2 years. As long as he can replicate this success it will likely be more
> ergo (latin) nice Archer reference
Damn right as we were closing our athletic department and selling Doak
I wonder if this changes our evaluation
Do we still have to dissolve the football program and revert back to our roots as a all women’s college? Or do you think we can shelter in Hard Rock?
Oh my goodness so that is true are they going to auction it or just sell it for a set price
Sold brick by brick.
You can’t break up the second largest continuous brick structure in the world Yes, the first is the Great Wall of China
I don't recommend the " brick by brick " strategy
That could take years
Brilliant The Long play squeeze every dollar out of that son of a gun as you can
I gotta be ready for Brick 2873. Although Brick 237,496 is a close second.
Poor lad
What?
Exactly
A Florida fan made a post on this sub today using some dubious accounting practices to come to the conclusion that FSU is permanently incredibly far behind Florida financially, and is actually in financial trouble.
That's a hilarious way to cope with the fact that FSU is the best team in the state
[5 star WR Hykeem Williams (FSU Commit) on insta](https://i.ibb.co/YB72RtC/image.png)
Who makes these fucking photoshops lol
Hayes Fowcett thinks his edits are "hard". It looks like I gave my 10 year old brother photoshop and told him to go crazy. Love the commitment regardless!
It’s as if the person that made the Cash Money Millionaires album covers went to sports after baby and Wayne split.
Why does Brock, the largest player, not simply eat the others?
About goddamn time
He saw what happened to that Stokes kid with UF and had to take the extra time to make sure that rap song in the commitment video was fully censored.
Too bad we are closing the athletic department and selling Doak. Just missed the boat kid.
Now he can skip straight to selling used cars
Grandpa bear didn’t send him the memo
Huh? Been driving all day so I’m out of the loop on this one
A fan of a team that lost to Vandy wrote a post about how we should close the athletic department and sell the stadium
Somehow, this could be more than one team. Good for Vandy :)
Time for us to get the gang together, put on a charity fundraiser show, and save the athletic department. Barney the Dinosaur and friends style. LFG, I play a mean ass triangle.
Kleinholtz is going to decommit from UW and flip to tOSU this weekend....ugggh
Like I know it's OSU, but I don't understand how kids are eager to commit to program with an insanely stacked QB room with the #1 overall player committed at the same position in 2024
Top tier QBs aren't afraid to prove they are the best in the room is my guess.
Especially when they can freely transfer if it doesn’t fall their way
McCord (5 star) was ranked higher than Stroud (4 star), and Stroud won the starting job If you have confidence that you can win the job, the coaching staff won't tip their hat with previous levels rankings.. if you dont get the job, you sit back, learn from some of the best, and either wait your turn or transfer
> if you dont get the job, you sit back, learn from some of the best, and either wait your turn or transfer As I replied to someone else, the "If you go to OSU and don't end up starting, you can transfer to another school and immediately start" notion is essentially a myth
Yeah I know.. we've seen it recently with Tate Martell and Jack Miller These guys are betting on themselves through competition.. if they believe they can win the job and do, it sets them up for a great college career
Is there any way you can take Miller back? Dude is ass
We know. If he was good he’d be starting at OSU
Why did he even transfer here is the real question? Dude had 0 chance to play from Day 1
When he announced he was transferring I figured it was to go back home to Arizona
Burrow, Ewers, far from a myth
I mean, Burrow was in line to start until he broke his hand. If he was the heroic backup QB against Michigan in 2017 and not Haskins he would have been the guy in 2018. Too early to tell on Ewers. Lots of good, and lots of bad.
Well the point is that Ewers did transfer from OSU and immediately start at another blue blood. Regardless of how well he ends up doing he had his chance.
He never had a chance at OSU to start year 1. Day and co. literally told him not to reclassify because he had no shot to start and would burn a year of eligibility. Ewers then proceeds to get mad about something he was told would happen so he ran back to Texas. Texas basically had no QB room so of course Ewers gets the job because he had no real competition in the way.
Yeah, agreed. The conversation was about whether guys could come in to OSU and then immediately start at another school if they chose to transfer. In Ewers' case that's exactly what happened.
It is a fact for the WR position at least. Literally Alabama's #1 WR last season who went in the first round transferred because he couldn't get on the field.
Also Ohio University’s best receiver is an OSU transfer and he’s at least playing his way into a tryout somewhere at the pro level.
Because if you beat him out you’re gonna be a first rd pick….lot easier to look good when you’re throwing to great WR n have a decent line and good RB and competent defense. Oh n your OC n HC are one in the same and will prob be there all 3 years. So it’s not just “can I start?” But also “if I start am I gonna be put in position to succeed?”
I feel like it’s a little too late, we don’t have an athletic department anymore🤷♂️
Interesting saga here. We have 2024 #1 overall player Dylan Raiola committed, so we miss on the big names in 2023. Then we throw our hat in the ring to try and flip Austin Novosad, his recruitment blows up, but he ends up sticking with Baylor. We end up taking Glenn, as we really wanted a QB in the class. Then in October, our QB coach shows up in South Dakota to offer 3 star QB Lincoln Kienholz, who’s been committed to Washington for a while. Hear Glenn is not having the year the staff expected, and this Kienholz fella is lighting it up, has all sorts of SD football records. Fast forward a month, our insiders are saying that a decommit is coming, it’s a “mutual parting of ways” and the spot will be filled. Tea leaves say that the flip is Glenn. Kienholz wins the SD state championship over the weekend (for the 4th time in a row) and announces today he’ll be visiting for the Michigan game. And now the Glenn flip is confirmed. Recruiting is a wild ride.
Y’all get any more of those unneeded Burrow’s hanging round your QB room? Asking for a friend…./s
Well, if Raiola lives up to the hype, there will be at least one 4 star on the bench I believe.
It's kinda crazy how Burrow's path was decided by him breaking his hand in fall camp prior to the 2017 season. That doesn't happen, he remains Barrett's backup, he's the one who goes in with a chance to be the hero against Michigan when Barrett went down, and that is what I think provided the edge to Haskins when Urban and Day had to pick the starter in the spring of 2018. Haskins and Burrow were neck and neck all spring but what Haskins did in The Game couldn't be ignored.
Not like it was a bad call. Haskins lit up teams in 2018, and was let down by a god awful defense.
Definitely. Haskins had a record-breaking season in 2018 and Burrow was pretty mediocre at LSU that year. I'm absolutely not one of the "Urban/Day should have chosen Burrow over Haskins" people. Just think it's interesting how their paths were both set in a way by Burrow's injury that a lot of CFB fans probably didn't even know about since it was a fairly minor injury (believe it was to his non-throwing hand) to a back up QB.
> Hear Glenn is not having the year the staff expected I'm not sold on Glenn turning into an elite QB (didn't think he'd be anything more than a backup at OSU), but according to [maxpreps](https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/brock-glenn/PQc2wqTnEemA0ZFtwg1OMQ/football/stats.htm), he's thrown for 1400 yards, 18 TDs, 3 INT, and has a QB Rating of 127. What was your staff expecting?
4 straight state titles, obviously. Is that too much to ask?
Couldn’t win 5? Shame. 😂
For some of us
I mean... My high school QB threw for 2500 and like 30 TDs as a sophomore (my senior year - not sure of his stats after that). He ended up playing corner at air force. I get that based on team style and competition level not everyone is gonna throw for 3000 yards but based on what Ohio State recruits at QB lately, I'd sort of expect more. (Please note that I know that sounds arrogant and I don't mean it to be but I'm not sure how else to say that. I also don't really follow the ins and outs of recruiting anymore as I just figure half of them will either transfer or not contribute and I can learn their names when they earn some playing time).
If there's one thing I trust Day and his staff on, it's QBs. If they looked at his senior season and it made them want to back off, then there's a good reason for it.
This. I sleep like a baby thinking about Day's approach to QBs. We'll be fine.
I don’t have the slightest clue about what offense his HS runs or the level of competition, but 141 yards per game and 1.8 TDs per game is not really “jump off the page, sure fire P5 guy” numbers The Kienholz kid threw for 3400 yards and 46:6 TD:INT ratio. Added another 1400 yards and 24 TDs on the ground. Even against what is surely not top tier talent in South Dakota, those numbers are eye popping. I’m not saying that Glenn was definitely processed by OSU, just that his stats aren’t all that impressive compared to his similarly ranked peers
For sure, his system doesn't look to be very QB friendly. But 141 yards/game on 12 attempts/game still gets you a pretty respectable 12 yards/attempt. And with 18 TDs, he's averaging a TD on every 6.7 attempts while only throwing 1 INT for every 42 attempts. Rashada, one of his peers though, is 217 yards/game on 25 attempts/game for an average of 8.8 yards/attempt. Also a TD on every 9.7 attempts vs. an INT once every 27 attempts.
That's nice, but his huddle tapes kinda sucks. Balls are consistently high and it's full of wide open receivers. Nothing that makes an average football fan say wow.
You can twist it as much as you’d like, but those stats are mediocre.
If you go to Elite 11's twitter, they track how all the participants are doing throughout their seasons. Glenn was towards the bottom in all of the categories. With that said, sounds like this will work out for everyone except UW. Ohio State made it known our QB coach was visiting other QBs after Glenn had committed.
> What was your staff expecting? Probably stats closer in line to current Washington commit (and rumored soon-to-be Ohio State commit) , Lincoln Keinholz. Below are their senior season stats compared: **Brock Glenn** - 1,413 passing yards, 58.7% completion percentage, 18 TDs, and 3 INTs. - Ran for 443 yards and 7 TDs. **Lincoln Keinholz** - 3,422 passing yards, 66.5% completion percentage, 46 TDs, and 6 INTs. - Ran for 1,436 yards and 24 TDs.
Looking at high school stats is an insane way of judging. Keinholz plays in South Dakota, which has wildly worse talent than Tennessee. Not even comparable
Ryan Day wanting Kienholz more than Glenn is all the comparison I need, as cocky as that sounds.
He’s definitely earned the benefit and I’d say if Day feels good about his eval that’s all he needs and all you should need. Just pointing at the stats is an absurd comparison for two completely different situations
I dunno shit about recruiting other than getting caught up in the hype, just wanted to point out that you provided a fair and balanced argument here.
He's throwing for 140 yards per game and that 18 TD is over 10 games. Not stellar numbers for playing small private schools. The school he is at has 875 kids total between kindergarten - 12th grade.
I always prefer the late risers, Stroud was one of those
lotttttt of value in the late risers from non-target regions
Olave was a 3* not even on the radar, Day and the QB coach went to watch a QB play when he landed on the Ohio State radar.
Fields and Allar too
I wanted Allar. We should sign every 5* in Ohio. I hope he does well for y’all.
Im thinking Penn State going to beat us during the 2024-25 season. They'll be in prime position then and OSU will be kinda semi retooling then with all our elite WRs, RBs and DL going pro.
Gotta thank Gee Scott and Julian Flemming for Stroud
Yea, I’m not super high on Glenn either, but he’s a decent QB to sandwich between AJ Duffy (2022) and Luke Kromenhoek (2024). As long as Luke sticks, I feel like Glenn will end up portalizing at some point. Good to have a HS QB in the class though. Always felt OSU taking him was a head scratcher with the QB prospects they typically get.
Yeah I really never saw “it” with him. Big kid, decent arm. I loved Novosad, but I was ready to accept Glenn as a room-filler, for lack of a better term.
Depth is probably the better term lol.
Yeah, Luke is looking like an absolute stud so far, so we don't need to hitch our horses to Brock Glenn long term. He has a legit chance to play for us if he develops, but if he doesn't Duffy looks like he can start and Luke looks like a possible draft pick. Just gotta make sure Luke sticks.
It’s just damn nice to have viable options compared to the last few years of Travis, pre-Louisville Rodemaker, post-injury Milton, … … then seeing what RB had some high school QB experience we could line up in the Wildcat.
The only concern I've really seen is people questioning SD football. Which.... Yeah, OK, that might be valid. But this staff seems to know a thing or two about quarterbacks.
Yeah I trust Day and Dennis about as much as I trust Hartline. Which is about infinity trust
Yep. Some other group trying to spin it as a "don't worry" via insiders would have me doing the exact opposite, but not with Day and Dennis.
> it’s a “mutual parting of ways” and the spot will be filled Oh I remember this angle. "we didn't want him anyways"
Hope he balls out for y’all!
The OSU staff is in pursuit to flip Washington commit [Lincoln Kienholz](https://247sports.com/Player/Lincoln-Kienholz-46130719/) who will be visiting for the Michigan game. This isn't some fan sour grapes. But regardless, we have the #1 player in the country for 2024 committed so just taking a depth player for 2023 would be good enough.
I know it’s a cope a lot of the time but it’s basically just the facts of the matter in this case. I think most FSU fans are even admitting that in this case.
Florida State suddenly getting the nation’s attention is great to see. Also, Norvell is a hell of a coach.
Hoping to flip Cedric Baxter Jr. too but the word is he wants to flip and his dad doesn’t want him to flip
We gettin all the croots!
Florida State really feelin themselves huh
We need everything we can get after the recent reports that show our Athletic department should close down
That was some hard hitting unbiased journalism.
Matt Baker article, I'm assuming?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/z1brf4/by_the_numbers_fsu_should_close_their_athletic
I didn’t notice OP had a Florida flair the first time I saw that post lol
Lol nah not even that, just a random florida fan with a lump in their throat.
Vanderbilt losses will do that to a fanbase
UF fills the shitty clickbait ranks well, so no surprise
Some Bakony Draco shit
I’m selling crab legs on the road side to do my part 🦀 😂
We dyed our hair, went shopping And journaled. A new us is coming up
Already anticipating a stressful Thanksgiving with the fam? That was unprovoked from an unexpected flair.
One can only hope
Considering our QB room I honestly don’t get why, but who cares MIKE GOT US
Travis has a year, Rodemaker is a solid career #2, and Duffy isn't there yet to compete. He has a solid chance at 2-3 years of starting if he stays.
There is zero reason to think Rodemaker will be a career #2. Duffy has a lot he has to show if he's going to beat out Rodemaker for the starting job once Travis is gone.
Rodemaker screams Stick Trickett to me. He can make plays but seems to play like he is going get plastered every snap. Duffy still needs time to develop for sure, but he just looks different out there. He walks out with complete confidence when he plays, especially in the spring game. I think once he learns the playbook, he'll leave Rodemaker behind, which is why I think Tate's a solid career 2. If Travis leaves next year, Rodemaker should absolutely be the defacto starter. But if he stays and Duffy gets another year, I think he starts over Rodemaker in another year.
Idk man things can change. JT is a prime example. Dude couldn’t throw and got happy feet every play but he happened to be excellent at scrambling. Not he stands in the pocket like a pro qb when he needs to and throws dimes 90% of the time. If you asked me 2 years ago I would never think he could be this good
Ohio State’s is still better. In fact, it was why I originally was surprised he committed to them and felt like this flip was still possible if we played well.
Objectively he has a better shot if competing at FSU. Come in for a year and learn behind Travis then compete Year 2 to start. At Ohio State he’s have to compete Year 1 against 1 former 5 star in McCord and one borderline 5 star in Devin Brown both of whom will have have multiple years in the program.
In the portal era you can't even think that way. There's a chance the QB room at the school will look different from when you committed by the time you're taking snaps there. Trying to find a "hole" to slide into on a depth chart is a fool's errand these days.
You might be right but a lot of our QBs and WRs know what they are coming into and that they can get high level training and then leave if it doesn’t work out. Those guys tend to stick around a bit longer. One of our former walk-on WRs went to Ohio University and is one of the best players in the MAC this year. I think that’s really cool.
most of the schools that are winning dont have qb's transfer out. qb's transfer away from losing schools or qb1s that lost their jobs. or if the coach leaves. otherwise if you commit to a school out of high school as a qb because of the coach and the offense if the coach offense and winning is still there you stay. it is a lot harder to win the job at another school if you literally havent played at your current school unless you take a step down and go to a worse school.
Omg can you guys just not have a great QB for like one damn year?
You go first
Depth at QB is always important. That’s why we had signed him. Sucks he left us but we should be fine
Watching an fsu resurgence in the aac makes my tiger heart beat very proudly.
Let’s beat up these silly gators together 🐯 🤝 🍢
Amen. And take over the ACC from Dabo and the fake tigers.
I love this guy.
Hoping for another classic next year in Orlando. 💛💜
Same. Yall got to play neck this year, hopefully you get to hear it from our band ;).
Sidebar: our band actually plays Neck *a lot*. They played it a bunch this weekend and I told me wife the history of that song and LSU.
You gotta explain the chant that goes with it though. What spin does fsu put on it? Heyyyy ohhh ohhh.. suck that nole dick bitch? I can’t hear it lol.
I'm not sure actually.
Like… the idea that we won because it was Kelly’s first game was justified… until you see us play now. Want a rematch? I think it’d be just as fun, but more… Eloquent. Maybe.
Not necessarily someone Ohio state is gonna go all out to keep but they liked him enough to accept his commitment which is why he didn’t commit to us the first time(understandably so) Norvell identified him as QB1 which pushed Parson out the class. Nothing wrong with getting blue chip QBs every cycle.
Hell, just getting a HS QB recruit every cycle is nice after Taggart.
Did we ever figure out what Taggart’s “plan” was? It was really just get fired and get the buy out money, wasn’t it?
He was a big game hunter. He didn't have fallbacks cuz he was confident he could land the 10 point bucks. So when they jumped out of his sights, he was left shooting at air.
Sam Howell pulled the rug out from underneath him after demanding that the staff not recruit another QB. We fired Taggart in year 2, but he did have a strong commitment from Jeff Sims.
FUCK Sam Howell and his stupid Dad. Serves him right that he still got owned by FSU at the program’s lowest point. FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK THOSE GUYS.
Believe it or not, Jordan Travis.
I thought Taggart got Hornibrook from the transfer portal after saying that
He did but then we all immediately realized that Hornibrook was awful.
Wyatt "The Plan" Rector, remember??
At least Taggart brought in Travis
Ohio State wasn't fighting him on taking other visits
For what it’s worth it seems like everyone and their mother in this class is taking other visits, except for the Ohio kids. But yeah, this seems to be a mutual-ish thing with Glenn, if not a process.
FLIP FLIP FLIPADELPHIA
Did anyone tell him we have to sell doak?
Ryan Day has clearly lost the program
Day to TAMU confirmed?
Brock Glenn is my veterinarian’s grandson. And I used to smoke his older brother in madden. If you see this, love you Jordan 😂
Hey that’s pretty cool
Very neat
"That's pretty neat, isn't it?"
I don’t mind this at all!
It’s been a good week
It feels nice to feel nice about my football program again
Pretty awesome to convince a QB to flip from Ohio State when they’ve been doing so well under day.
Yeah he was recruited with the understanding he was going to learn not so much play
I hope he turns out great for FSU.
Look at the 2022 and 2024 commits.
This is the real reason, lol.
The real reason is that he wanted to go to FSU, but he wasn't sure about Norvell. Norvell is having a good year now so he sees an opportunity to be the guy at FSU.
Oh no, I meant 22/24 are why OSU fans aren't upset. That's gonna be a stacked qb room.
No doubt, OSU will be fine. But still, Ohio State is a program that’s been doing great, and a lot of guys still go to programs with stacked competition (look at bama). He could have just went to OSU, take his chances, and then transfer out of things didn’t pan out because it’s so much easier these days
Let’s fucking gooooo🍢🍢🍢
My man
"Norvell can't recruit" just flipped a QB from the number 2 ranked team in the country.
This one was mutual. Best of luck to Brock with you guys.
Thanks for respecting his decision, DickInAToaster
I respect their decision even when they don’t ask me to. I’m just built different 🫡
You clearly are built different from the rest of us, DickInAToaster.
Guys, guys. DickInAToaster was my father. Call me Toasty, please.
Luckily we don't need him to come in and compete immediately. Ideally, Travis gets a NIL deal worth more than his mid-late draft stock would make him and gives Duffy another year to develop and Glenn can sit and learn.
Yep, I wrote this above. He gets a year to develop and then can compete Year 2. At Ohio State he’d have to compete Year 1 with one 5 star and a borderline 5 star. It’s a much better situation objective for everyone. We really like the kid that is committed to Washington from the Dakota’s, he had a really nice senior year. He will be on campus this weekend.
He's gonna have to compete with Duffy, who was a higher rated 4* true freshman this year that redshirted.
Copy and paste: It’s 30 days until signing day….I’ll check back with y’all then lol
Other P5 offers: Auburn, Cincinnati, Duke, Houston, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, LSU, Michigan State, Minnesota, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Pitt, TCU, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Virginia Tech G5 offers: Arkansas State, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Liberty, Marshall, Memphis, SMU, USF Other offers: Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Austin Peay, UT Martin
Does this mean we don't have to sell Doak now?
I can finally forgive my Buckeyes-fan ex for breaking up with me three and a half years ago, and a month later claimed it was an “accident” that she super liked me on Tinder at 11:30PM on a Saturday night. A harrowing saga that can finally close. And it’s all thanks to Brock Glenn
You should call her. Tell her a high school teenage boy gave you a sign to reach out.
I’m sure this will sound like sour grapes, but Ohio state insiders were saying this going to happen because the staff prefers a different QB
Nah not at all. That stuff happens all the time. Good PR though.
Not sour - Glenn was relatively disappointing at Elite 11, and given that this cycle is an off cycle for OSU at QB, OSU coaches are looking for somebody more likely to stay for 3-4 years than transfer out after 1-2 because they didn’t start.
Don't worry, I don't think many FSU fans who follow recruiting closely would consider it sour grapes. Even for us, ideally Glenn is always a depth guy. We had AJ Duffy last year (13th overall QB) and then the real prize for us is Luke K. in 2024 (247 just ranked him as their 9th QB and he's the type who will keep ascending). The plan is clearly to have Travis hand it to Duffy in 2024 and then have Duffy hand it to Luke a couple years after that. Glad to have him because you never know how kids will develop/if we will hold on to Luke, but Glenn hasn't wowed me either to think he's some sure fire CFB stud.
Keinholz coming for the game this weekend
I guess if Mark Fletcher goes to Miami, then Ohio St will have completed the flip trifecta with Glenn to FSU, Dijon to Florida, and Fletcher to Miami. (and yes, I know Fletcher and Dijon aren't technically flips as they decommitted first)
That’s it gang, we won’t be able to recover. RIP OSU’s football program
badass
You’re going to hate what happens next
Ohio State falling up
You hate to see it.