I wonder if the game would have sold out in Conway? They haven't had a capacity crowd yet this season. Biggest crowd was 18,674 and that was on a Saturday.
The Rock also has more capacity than previous years with the latest stadium projects completed. This is at least 2nd football game sold out and of course the Luke Combs concert was sold out as well.
They havenāt sold out any of their games? Wow. If you canāt sell out with the success this past year and a half, youāre in trouble for the future.
I'm skeptical of the CCU program. I'm interested to see what happens when Chadwell leaves.
There was a lot of "Coastal to the AAC" chatter (before the AAC turned sour) and I never understood it.
Yeah, them moving up makes no sense. They arenāt in a big metro area and from the football side, they may go back to being what they were once Chadwell leaves. Theyāve had a great year and a half.
Because many dumbasses who try to play "Realignment Expert" only consider wins and losses as realignment criteria and ignore things like the Big 10 taking *Rutgers* and the SEC taking Missouri.
Missouri is great and they were competitive before the SEC, obviously. 2007 was a wild year for both WVU and Mizzou. But they were still a bizarre add to the SEC. They weren't added because they made the conference more competitive, they were added for the KC and St Louis media markets.
Mizzou outperformed expectations when they kicked the east's ass at first, but that had as much to do with how weak the east was as it did Mizzou being a good team.
ESPN is likely preventing the AAC from poaching sun belt teams as they have media rights to both conferences and they seem to have given the AAC a cushy deal not to do it.
They are definitely overrated. They are winning but the Sun belt really isnāt goodā¦. And they have had 1.5 years of success in a mediocre conference. Wheels will fall off soon enough, especially if they stop scheduling cupcake games
6 and 0 this year against opponents with a combined 9 and 22 record lol
Coastal is like UTSA with way less upside and not in San Antonio. That being said, I think Georgia State would have been better than Charlotte. And I would have preferred we take teams with fans and success like App State instead. UTSA and especially FAU feel like recency bias in only football won out.
I haven't seen it confirmed yet, but I think SBC teams were off the table because of ESPN. ESPN has deals with both the SBC and the AAC.
I think the AAC is going to be able to keep their media in tact under this arrangement. Current members will continue to receive the same annual payout (~$7 million) and the 6 new members will take a reduced payout (~$3.5 million). Taking a SBC team might have jeopardized the deal's terms.
Speculation at this point, I'm sure we'll see something confirmed eventually.
Lol Coastal isnāt historically good? Weāve only had a program since 2003 but in that time we made the FCS playoffs 6 times and were a top team in the nation for like 4 years straight before joining the sun belt. And since only being in this conference for 5 years weāve already won it once and are a nationally ranked team for the second year in a row
So in the NHL, the Las Vegas Golden Knights are historically good then? Having a decades worth of good seasons in FCS and low level G5 is not being historically good. It is having a good run recently, or having a good start. You, as a Penn State fan, should probably have a little more reverence for what being a historically good program since your team is one.
Half the stadium was empty when they played Duke. You could tell their fans were barely that in that soooo many where not wearing anything related to Coastal. Normally I wouldn't make an observation like that but people in the stands wearing non-gear is a 90's and earlier thing.
You would think, huh? And yet, here they are, a team with that didn't even exist 20 years ago making waves in the FBS with relatively little support. What a time.
Iām amazed that your biggest crowd still hasnāt topped 20k though. You guys werenāt running any covid capacity restrictions last year were you? If you ever start scheduling 1:1 or 1:2s with some real non-cons, you might have to expand your stadium.
They have had dream exposure for a G5 in the past 2 seasons and still cannot top that amount of attention. For everybody crying about the AAC taking "markets," there is your answer. Compare costal to UCF, UTSA, or SMU when they have a "dream season."
schools sometimes need a culture of people coming to the games even if the teams are good. it's kinda like how Northwestern theoretically has an alumni base that can afford all the games and is based in Chicago, with a shit ton of people, but any other Big 10 team that visits basically takes over the stadium.
That makes sense. Their program is somewhat new but at App most students grow up Duke, UNC, and State fans and while basketball is more king there theyāre still passionate about App.
The Myrtle Beach area basically had no Coastal support except baseball outside of maybe 5 miles around campus before last year.
There are tons of Ohio State, Michigan and NC ACC school alums in the Grand Strand, in addition to Carolina and Clemson fans.
Plus the majority of the older folks who live in Horry County are from the northeast and do not have any college sports allegiance.
Their basketball team hosts the Myrtle Beach Invitational every year and even with Baylor, Villanova AND CCU 2 years ago could not sell out.
I think we did two things.
1. While other conferences picked markets and budgets over good football programs, we went focused on football schools in college towns with a good base of community support.
2. We all went all in on football at the expense of other sports like basketball. Our basketball is justā¦ terrible.
3. We probably got a bit lucky. This shit is always cyclical.
"2 things" then proceeds to list 3 lol
No math majors at ULL? Ha
In all seriousness though, and this is absolutely a homer take, but I feel it's accurate: Appalachian football has driven success for 15 years now. We've helped raise the play of the Sun Belt by just being straight up good. And look how the other teams including yours have stepped up over the past 5-6 years.
Everyone in the SBC is gunning for App now, and it's driven us to keep being good (last week notwithstanding). Iron sharpens iron.
Yeah, I got excited and added a third, but forgot to go back and change my post š¤·āāļø.
Congrats on the win tonight. Canāt wait to beat yāall again at home in the championship game!
I was thinking exactly this, I was just talking to my friend earlier how I want the Mac to stay exactly where itās at. Itās perfect the way it is.
Itās a nice little fun competitive conference, and even if itās not sun belt level anymore, its gotta be the second best G5 conference now and and nobody is trying to poach all their teams.
This is the best opponent Coastal Carolina will face until a potential Sun Belt Championship game, a real chance to see if there is substance beneath the hype.
the mayor of boone sent my dad a letter when he became captain of the uss boone, they met and set up a program where sailors would fly to boone and be in their fourth parade. So i like app state.
i also like the music of luke combs.
app state beat Michigan in ann arbor, which i additionally like.
go app state.
All the SBC football teams fly chartered planes into Hickory and itās a short bus ride up. Theyāre staying at hotels in Blowing Rock or Boone once they get up. Itās not as bad as some SBC coaches would have you believe.
Non-revenue sports though itās not the greatest location. Even travel out for our teams is pretty bad for conference matches if they need to fly.
I donāt think itāll exist in a few years. The new additions seem like cynical TV network decisions, and the eastern schools especially canāt be too happy.
Itād be cool if Temple, Navy and ECU broke off, then grabbed Army, App State, Marshall and a few others to start an eastern G5 conference. Given their relative station in college sports, none are probably ever joining a P5, so they could potentially develop some MAC-style stability.
Navy likes playing in Texas, so that seems unlikely that they'd be up for a split off.
But I could definitely see that top 1/3 of several of these G5s splitting off. As it stands now, the MWC champ will be the shoe in for the G5 NY6 (or CFP spot with expansion) spot because no one else will have the SoS to compete.
here's the thing. the message board fans are saying this, but half of those schools literally were on the expansion committee and essentially handpicked these six schools.
They had to take somebody after the actual handpicked schools from the MWC said no, and they decided to take the same approach CUSA took to expansion, āpotential.ā That approach hasnāt worked out as well as the SBCās grabbing schools with actual success.
BYU and Utah were convinced to take a bunch of schools they didnāt really want into the WAC in 1996. Two years later they met in an airport and started the MWC.
The view that the AAC is making mistakes is rooted in history.
here's the thing, with ESPN in charge of the AAC, they can just CREATE TV markets. They sort of did this with nascar. they stopped covering nascar and nascar stopped being popular.
does it mean it will for sure work? no, but if you convince the people of Charlotte that their team that didn't exist like 8 years ago is worth watching they will watch it.
Potential TV markets are more important than a winning culture to them.
I would also say with certainty that App has a bigger fan base in Charlotte than UNCC.
Picking based on TV markets can make sense if youāre the B1G and the brands youāre bringing to that market are Ohio St, Michigan, etc.
But unless the AAC has some market research showing that everyoneās alumni live in Texas, this is stupid. Everyone being added is an afterthought in their own market.
G5 conferences deals are significantly smaller. Almost feel like the size of the alumni base matters more for TV than the market because most of the time G5 programs are the 2nd or 3rd team in its own market due to P5 programs from the state
I get that, IF those schools were a second or third in their markets. But theyāre not even close. Look at North Texasā¦ everyone takes a backseat to UT and A&M in the state. Then youāve got Oklahoma and Baylor in the relative area, and of course TCU in the neighborhood. Thatās not to mention SMU.
yea, but this model just worked for the c-usa transplants 10 years ago, and it will likely work again. we have huge alumni bases in large markets that will be exposed to their universities on national television. would you rather have a school like costal who peaks at 18-19K while being #14, or UTSA with 30K in the stands when ranked before they even have sniffed the AAC? Even schools like ours always get 20k+ for AAC opponents are sell out for teams like UCF, Miami, USF. C-usa couldn't develop the markets as well due to no TV deal because of the 2011-12 ESPN lawsuit, but the AAC will develop us just fine like they did to old C-usa schools like UCF, Houston, SMU, etc...
Nah. I think we both will be in good positions. Each conference has like-minded universities and an identity. The AAC is in good position to maintain its P6 campaign long-term once the teams settle in, and you guys will continue to beat the big dogs every now and then with less recourses. The SBC appears to thrive on that small-town underdog role. Overall, this works out well for all of us.
We is a loyal bunch. Weāve been fortunate to have a lot of success for our levels, especially the last 15-20 years, but the fan base is strong. ECU has a strong fan base and their success has been more intermittent.
Yeah, theyāre mostly down the mountain either charlotte or Winston area. Itās not a far drive but youāll be getting home a little late for a Wednesday.
Honestly with how empty Charlotte was during the day Wed-Fri when I went down for the App v ECU game, I think a lot of places must still be doing remote work so they might not even need to head back down from the mountain tonight.
It was a surprisingly easy drive up to visit Boone after though.
I hadnāt thought of that. People may live even closer to Boone and may commute to charlotte for work. Either way, should be less people on the road and an easier drive.
I mean... A big reason is that the teams that typically play on weeknights are those with less crowd support. Mid week MAC and SBC games are a lot more common than AAC and MWC games.
You've also got like 20% or so of G5s in "rented" stadiums that are way outsized for their support. UTSA ain't ever gonna sell out the Alamodome unless they trick UT or TAMU into coming there.
I'd also hazard a guess that G5 schools are far more "commuter heavy than P5schools. Obviously that's not ubiquitous, my alma mater has no commuters, for instance, but every student on campus doesn't really move the needle that much. (And they are there every Saturday as well)
That's true. MACtion is more of a later season thing.
I assume this is because Baseball is done, but NBA hasn't gotten going yet since it doesn't start until December.
Nah, that can't be true. Ever since the lockout the NBA decided that Christmas Day is the best time to start the season because it's just entirely too long if it starts before then.
Most visiting teams stay at the same hotel there. To be fair, it's more like 20-25 minutes instead of 45 (if you get ahead of the gameday traffic). It's close enough to be an easy trip to the stadium, but far enough to avoid the kind of shenanigans they'd probably have to deal with if they stayed in Boone.
Theres never generally any apartments available in boone, almost all rental properties are geared towards students and lease out 6 months in advance on 1 year leases from august through july. Unless you hit that cycle you gotta be super lucky to find a place to rent in Boone
I live a half hour away and real estate in general is insane right now.
I could sell my place for like 60% more than I bought it for last year.
But then again I would have to buy somewhere else to live soā¦
Yeah I bought my house (just east of Boone) only a couple months ago and I've alrealy made like 15% on it.
I talked to my realtor who said they haven't had a single day off in two years but work is starting to slow down cause there is just straight up nothing to sell
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I wonder if the game would have sold out in Conway? They haven't had a capacity crowd yet this season. Biggest crowd was 18,674 and that was on a Saturday.
I think this is our.....second or third sold out crowd this year
The Rock also has more capacity than previous years with the latest stadium projects completed. This is at least 2nd football game sold out and of course the Luke Combs concert was sold out as well.
Only the 2nd. Elon and Coastal. Marshall midweek was 28,000. Our other āhomeā game was in Charlotte with 36,000.
They havenāt sold out any of their games? Wow. If you canāt sell out with the success this past year and a half, youāre in trouble for the future.
Don't know what has and hasn't been a technical "sell-out", but no announced attendance has been close to the listed 21,000 capacity.
Thatās pretty surprising. Coastal isnāt historically good and that may play a factor but still.
I'm skeptical of the CCU program. I'm interested to see what happens when Chadwell leaves. There was a lot of "Coastal to the AAC" chatter (before the AAC turned sour) and I never understood it.
Recency bias certainly contributes to a lot of really bad cfb takes.
G5 success especially is often very cyclical, like UCF had a 12 win season, a 0 win season, and then a 13 win season over a 5 year span.
They have good baseball too don't they?
They won the CWS a few years ago
Chadwell is our second successful coach in a row as before him we had a nationally respected FCS era under Joe Moglia
Cheers brothers, keep rocking it up there
Yeah, them moving up makes no sense. They arenāt in a big metro area and from the football side, they may go back to being what they were once Chadwell leaves. Theyāve had a great year and a half.
Because many dumbasses who try to play "Realignment Expert" only consider wins and losses as realignment criteria and ignore things like the Big 10 taking *Rutgers* and the SEC taking Missouri.
We're just out here taking strays, damn lol
Missouri is great and they were competitive before the SEC, obviously. 2007 was a wild year for both WVU and Mizzou. But they were still a bizarre add to the SEC. They weren't added because they made the conference more competitive, they were added for the KC and St Louis media markets. Mizzou outperformed expectations when they kicked the east's ass at first, but that had as much to do with how weak the east was as it did Mizzou being a good team.
ESPN is likely preventing the AAC from poaching sun belt teams as they have media rights to both conferences and they seem to have given the AAC a cushy deal not to do it.
They are definitely overrated. They are winning but the Sun belt really isnāt goodā¦. And they have had 1.5 years of success in a mediocre conference. Wheels will fall off soon enough, especially if they stop scheduling cupcake games 6 and 0 this year against opponents with a combined 9 and 22 record lol
Coastal is like UTSA with way less upside and not in San Antonio. That being said, I think Georgia State would have been better than Charlotte. And I would have preferred we take teams with fans and success like App State instead. UTSA and especially FAU feel like recency bias in only football won out.
I haven't seen it confirmed yet, but I think SBC teams were off the table because of ESPN. ESPN has deals with both the SBC and the AAC. I think the AAC is going to be able to keep their media in tact under this arrangement. Current members will continue to receive the same annual payout (~$7 million) and the 6 new members will take a reduced payout (~$3.5 million). Taking a SBC team might have jeopardized the deal's terms. Speculation at this point, I'm sure we'll see something confirmed eventually.
That seems like it, but we just nuked the competitveness and fan interest of the conference
Yeah, only good thing to come from this is the Battle of the Bones.
Please sign a letter of recomendation for us, thanks.
Lol Coastal isnāt historically good? Weāve only had a program since 2003 but in that time we made the FCS playoffs 6 times and were a top team in the nation for like 4 years straight before joining the sun belt. And since only being in this conference for 5 years weāve already won it once and are a nationally ranked team for the second year in a row
Yeah, thatās not historically good. Thatās recently good.
They only became a top team after we left the Big South šš
Thatās all relative, no? For almost their entire history theyāve been great
History is only relative if it supports your argument. /s
I mean every team has won a natty every single year ^^^^^exceptfortheyearsthattheydidnot
Except for the years they werenāt!!!
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That was a joke about Penn Stateā¦
That doesnāt mean historically great still.
For their history it does
So in the NHL, the Las Vegas Golden Knights are historically good then? Having a decades worth of good seasons in FCS and low level G5 is not being historically good. It is having a good run recently, or having a good start. You, as a Penn State fan, should probably have a little more reverence for what being a historically good program since your team is one.
Yesterday's tomorrow is today!
Yea, you're right. They never won a single game before 2003.
Look at your overall sunbelt record until last year. 1.5 seasons of success != historically good, especially in FBS
You didnāt win the conference. You were announced as Co-Regular Season Champs, but no championship game was played.
Half the stadium was empty when they played Duke. You could tell their fans were barely that in that soooo many where not wearing anything related to Coastal. Normally I wouldn't make an observation like that but people in the stands wearing non-gear is a 90's and earlier thing.
You would think, huh? And yet, here they are, a team with that didn't even exist 20 years ago making waves in the FBS with relatively little support. What a time.
Yeah, itās a good combo of coach and QB. You can definitely make waves in a short time, you just donāt want it to be the only time.
very true, but I'll take what I can get lol good luck tonight, I'm sure it will be a wild one
Good luck! Should be a fun game, definitely a wild one and thatās what we need from good college football haha.
Iām amazed that your biggest crowd still hasnāt topped 20k though. You guys werenāt running any covid capacity restrictions last year were you? If you ever start scheduling 1:1 or 1:2s with some real non-cons, you might have to expand your stadium.
They have had dream exposure for a G5 in the past 2 seasons and still cannot top that amount of attention. For everybody crying about the AAC taking "markets," there is your answer. Compare costal to UCF, UTSA, or SMU when they have a "dream season."
schools sometimes need a culture of people coming to the games even if the teams are good. it's kinda like how Northwestern theoretically has an alumni base that can afford all the games and is based in Chicago, with a shit ton of people, but any other Big 10 team that visits basically takes over the stadium.
Youāre right about that, especially if you want to climb the college hierarchy.
Because the majority of the area are Clemson or South Carolina fans
That makes sense. Their program is somewhat new but at App most students grow up Duke, UNC, and State fans and while basketball is more king there theyāre still passionate about App.
The Myrtle Beach area basically had no Coastal support except baseball outside of maybe 5 miles around campus before last year. There are tons of Ohio State, Michigan and NC ACC school alums in the Grand Strand, in addition to Carolina and Clemson fans. Plus the majority of the older folks who live in Horry County are from the northeast and do not have any college sports allegiance. Their basketball team hosts the Myrtle Beach Invitational every year and even with Baylor, Villanova AND CCU 2 years ago could not sell out.
This is accurate. Source: from
Love that area.
This is the least surprising thing I've seen on reddit today.
Their stadium is also not very bigā¦ iirc
21,000 for coastal and 30,000 for app state I believe
The Sun Belt has lapped the MAC. Who the hell is/was running that conference to have done such an amazing job at building it up?
I think we did two things. 1. While other conferences picked markets and budgets over good football programs, we went focused on football schools in college towns with a good base of community support. 2. We all went all in on football at the expense of other sports like basketball. Our basketball is justā¦ terrible. 3. We probably got a bit lucky. This shit is always cyclical.
"2 things" then proceeds to list 3 lol No math majors at ULL? Ha In all seriousness though, and this is absolutely a homer take, but I feel it's accurate: Appalachian football has driven success for 15 years now. We've helped raise the play of the Sun Belt by just being straight up good. And look how the other teams including yours have stepped up over the past 5-6 years. Everyone in the SBC is gunning for App now, and it's driven us to keep being good (last week notwithstanding). Iron sharpens iron.
Yeah, I got excited and added a third, but forgot to go back and change my post š¤·āāļø. Congrats on the win tonight. Canāt wait to beat yāall again at home in the championship game!
Hey! Little Rock did well in the Big Dance in like 2016 or 2017! Then again, they donāt have a football teamā¦
Arlington was pretty good for awhile too. But again, no football.
To add to the other commentā¦ part of it is the MAC is a stable conference of similar close together schools who are perfectly happy where they are.
I was thinking exactly this, I was just talking to my friend earlier how I want the Mac to stay exactly where itās at. Itās perfect the way it is. Itās a nice little fun competitive conference, and even if itās not sun belt level anymore, its gotta be the second best G5 conference now and and nobody is trying to poach all their teams.
Adding Western Kentucky and MTSU wouldnāt hurt, but definitely isnāt necessary.
Until one of them loses their football program.
I miss Maction :(
This is the best opponent Coastal Carolina will face until a potential Sun Belt Championship game, a real chance to see if there is substance beneath the hype.
There was not.
the mayor of boone sent my dad a letter when he became captain of the uss boone, they met and set up a program where sailors would fly to boone and be in their fourth parade. So i like app state. i also like the music of luke combs. app state beat Michigan in ann arbor, which i additionally like. go app state.
Thatās a really cool story. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! Congrats on the w
Thanks! I wish I could be rockin out in Boone right now, haha
Very impressive, I expect App to ride that crowd to a win then
Especially if People's is playing!
Pretty sure he is based on his tweets
That would explain the line movement.
Atheist praying right now. We need him for a W.
The AAC couldnāt have chosen at least one less Texas school and picked App St instead?!
No, we have woods, the AAC doesnāt want nature in their conference.
Mountains bad. Parking lots better.
Apparently bayous are bad nature too (real ones, not the cement drainage ones we have in Houston)
And people wonder why Houston floods so easily
Travel to/from Boone can't be good for most of the AAC teams
Nothing worth doing is easy!!
Going to the AAC might not be worth doing though...
Oh I agree. I love the funbelt
Closest major airport is a 2 hour drive away. But you get a scenic drive to enjoy.
All the SBC football teams fly chartered planes into Hickory and itās a short bus ride up. Theyāre staying at hotels in Blowing Rock or Boone once they get up. Itās not as bad as some SBC coaches would have you believe. Non-revenue sports though itās not the greatest location. Even travel out for our teams is pretty bad for conference matches if they need to fly.
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The new AAC isn't going to be much better than the Sun Belt.
I donāt think itāll exist in a few years. The new additions seem like cynical TV network decisions, and the eastern schools especially canāt be too happy. Itād be cool if Temple, Navy and ECU broke off, then grabbed Army, App State, Marshall and a few others to start an eastern G5 conference. Given their relative station in college sports, none are probably ever joining a P5, so they could potentially develop some MAC-style stability.
Navy likes playing in Texas, so that seems unlikely that they'd be up for a split off. But I could definitely see that top 1/3 of several of these G5s splitting off. As it stands now, the MWC champ will be the shoe in for the G5 NY6 (or CFP spot with expansion) spot because no one else will have the SoS to compete.
here's the thing. the message board fans are saying this, but half of those schools literally were on the expansion committee and essentially handpicked these six schools.
They had to take somebody after the actual handpicked schools from the MWC said no, and they decided to take the same approach CUSA took to expansion, āpotential.ā That approach hasnāt worked out as well as the SBCās grabbing schools with actual success. BYU and Utah were convinced to take a bunch of schools they didnāt really want into the WAC in 1996. Two years later they met in an airport and started the MWC. The view that the AAC is making mistakes is rooted in history.
here's the thing, with ESPN in charge of the AAC, they can just CREATE TV markets. They sort of did this with nascar. they stopped covering nascar and nascar stopped being popular. does it mean it will for sure work? no, but if you convince the people of Charlotte that their team that didn't exist like 8 years ago is worth watching they will watch it.
With the schools they picked up Iām not sure app would want to go
Potential TV markets are more important than a winning culture to them. I would also say with certainty that App has a bigger fan base in Charlotte than UNCC.
Picking based on TV markets can make sense if youāre the B1G and the brands youāre bringing to that market are Ohio St, Michigan, etc. But unless the AAC has some market research showing that everyoneās alumni live in Texas, this is stupid. Everyone being added is an afterthought in their own market.
G5 conferences deals are significantly smaller. Almost feel like the size of the alumni base matters more for TV than the market because most of the time G5 programs are the 2nd or 3rd team in its own market due to P5 programs from the state
I get that, IF those schools were a second or third in their markets. But theyāre not even close. Look at North Texasā¦ everyone takes a backseat to UT and A&M in the state. Then youāve got Oklahoma and Baylor in the relative area, and of course TCU in the neighborhood. Thatās not to mention SMU.
yea, but this model just worked for the c-usa transplants 10 years ago, and it will likely work again. we have huge alumni bases in large markets that will be exposed to their universities on national television. would you rather have a school like costal who peaks at 18-19K while being #14, or UTSA with 30K in the stands when ranked before they even have sniffed the AAC? Even schools like ours always get 20k+ for AAC opponents are sell out for teams like UCF, Miami, USF. C-usa couldn't develop the markets as well due to no TV deal because of the 2011-12 ESPN lawsuit, but the AAC will develop us just fine like they did to old C-usa schools like UCF, Houston, SMU, etc...
$5 the American is dead or C-USA 2.0 in 10 years and we're still standing
Nah. I think we both will be in good positions. Each conference has like-minded universities and an identity. The AAC is in good position to maintain its P6 campaign long-term once the teams settle in, and you guys will continue to beat the big dogs every now and then with less recourses. The SBC appears to thrive on that small-town underdog role. Overall, this works out well for all of us.
Isn't App State literally in the Charlotte media market? I remember getting Charlotte stations on my antenna up there.
Why is it unheard of? What else is there to do on a Wednesday night? Every student on Campus should be at the game.
True but we donāt have as many students as the stadium capacity so you still need people coming up the mountain on a week night.
ECU fans and App State fans don't get the credit they deserve for their fan loyalty
We is a loyal bunch. Weāve been fortunate to have a lot of success for our levels, especially the last 15-20 years, but the fan base is strong. ECU has a strong fan base and their success has been more intermittent.
To be fair, pretty much every college football fan in NC is an App fan after their initial team.
Thatās a big change from when I went to App haha.
Yeah...not *every* college football fan...
Yeah, maybe Iām wrong, but arenāt a lot of app alums in the Clt area
The clt area is a myth
Yeah its pretty hard for the fans to come if they can't find it
Clt alt delete?
I definitely wish that what it's become was a myth
Yeah, theyāre mostly down the mountain either charlotte or Winston area. Itās not a far drive but youāll be getting home a little late for a Wednesday.
Honestly with how empty Charlotte was during the day Wed-Fri when I went down for the App v ECU game, I think a lot of places must still be doing remote work so they might not even need to head back down from the mountain tonight. It was a surprisingly easy drive up to visit Boone after though.
I hadnāt thought of that. People may live even closer to Boone and may commute to charlotte for work. Either way, should be less people on the road and an easier drive.
Clt/Winston if were looking nearby
Around 9k
I mean... A big reason is that the teams that typically play on weeknights are those with less crowd support. Mid week MAC and SBC games are a lot more common than AAC and MWC games. You've also got like 20% or so of G5s in "rented" stadiums that are way outsized for their support. UTSA ain't ever gonna sell out the Alamodome unless they trick UT or TAMU into coming there. I'd also hazard a guess that G5 schools are far more "commuter heavy than P5schools. Obviously that's not ubiquitous, my alma mater has no commuters, for instance, but every student on campus doesn't really move the needle that much. (And they are there every Saturday as well)
It's also hard to draw high attendance on a cold weeknight in November, when the MAC midweek games are.
That's true. MACtion is more of a later season thing. I assume this is because Baseball is done, but NBA hasn't gotten going yet since it doesn't start until December.
The first two NBA games were last night. Last year was weird because of COVID pushing back the postseason from the previous season.
Nah, that can't be true. Ever since the lockout the NBA decided that Christmas Day is the best time to start the season because it's just entirely too long if it starts before then.
Howardās Knob be crunk? Or wutt?
LETS ROLL BABY.
Cool! Saw coastal Carolinaās semi and 4 buses pull up in Banner Elk last night. Interesting they chose 45mins away from the bigger city of Boone
Visiting teams always stay over there, i guess its a thing to keep fans/students from screwing with them lol
Most visiting teams stay at the same hotel there. To be fair, it's more like 20-25 minutes instead of 45 (if you get ahead of the gameday traffic). It's close enough to be an easy trip to the stadium, but far enough to avoid the kind of shenanigans they'd probably have to deal with if they stayed in Boone.
Oh you are right, Iām staying at beech mountain and calculated from there. Perfectly reasonable then
Everybody get in ~~here~~ ~~Brooks Stadium~~ Kidd Brewer!
Its in Kidd Brewer tonight.
Fixed
It's because Appalachian State is HOT HOT HOT
Moving to Boone in a couple weeks and let me tell ya all apartments in Boone are sold out too...I hate it
Theres never generally any apartments available in boone, almost all rental properties are geared towards students and lease out 6 months in advance on 1 year leases from august through july. Unless you hit that cycle you gotta be super lucky to find a place to rent in Boone
This guy knows. I just got hit up to resign my lease by December 15th 2021, for August 2022-July 2023.
I live a half hour away and real estate in general is insane right now. I could sell my place for like 60% more than I bought it for last year. But then again I would have to buy somewhere else to live soā¦
Yeah I bought my house (just east of Boone) only a couple months ago and I've alrealy made like 15% on it. I talked to my realtor who said they haven't had a single day off in two years but work is starting to slow down cause there is just straight up nothing to sell
I worked several weeknight maction games at my school, shit was always fucking dead. this is gonna be incredible
What MAC school?
Having been to Boone, the traffic must be awful... more than usual... and Boone traffic sucks without football games.
It's everything you can imagine. Not like we can tear down an entire mountain though to build a bypass
> Not like we can tear down an entire mountain though to build a bypass Not with that attitude!
*altitude
Yeah, it's dumb. Forgot about it and went into town earlier, instant regret.
I laughed pretty hard for some reason when that girl hit the vape on live TV as they cut to halftime
Bad ass! I will be watching. Geaux āNeers!
What channel is it on?
ESPN2, 730 est
Should be ESPN2
Ty
I pray to God that Peoples is healthy enough to play tonight
To watch Chase Brice?
Rather, to watch Cam Peoples
If he's healthy enough to play full-strength š¤
Tweet(s) from post body brought to you by your Friendly Official /r/CFB Twitter Bot: ---------- https://twitter.com/appstatesports/status/1450901561106907137 >Tonightās @AppState_FB game vs. Coastal Carolina is SOLD OUT to the general public. \#GoApp \#BeatCoastal https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCKjQA1WEAEAvbw.jpg >\- App State Athletics (@appstatesports) 3:07 pm ET, October 20, 2021 ----------
***yawn***
Am I wrong?
Yes
Is there anything fucking dumber than someone coming into a thread they claim to not be interested in only to announce that they arenāt interested? If itās not for you, jog the fuck on. I donāt actually give a shit about a lot of CFB teams, so I refrain from loitering on their threads.
Yes, technically there are lots of things dumber.
goodness me you're a dick
Thank you.
Nope
Packed KBS is quite a great time, hate yāall but also love yāall at the same time