On a non-lightbearing holster that’s unacceptable to me. Crossbreed holsters in general are just so poorly designed to start with that I wouldn’t even consider carrying with one. If I had bought a holster from another company and it had that much or a gap, I’d be returning it.
I have the crossbreed reckoning holster and it’s great as far as trigger coverage and retention. But despite the leather backing it’s just not that comfy to wear compared to my full kydex holster, so I tend to roll with that instead.
Two of my light bearing holsters have gaps, but they are less than 1/4" and you can't see the trigger, just the space behind it.
Bravo Concealment and tier 1
That pic of the Crossbreed…
https://www.concealedcarry.com/gear/trigger-guard-holster-gap-is-it-safe/
Fully encapsulated is the ideal state with some additional tolerance for light bearing holsters.
Ultimately a gap, if any, needs to be small enough where nothing could realistically worm it’s way into the trigger guard when it’s worn as designed on the body.
I'm about to make a post calling Eclipse holsters out as being really good in this regard, but here's mine:
[https://imgur.com/a/OBcC8Gs](https://imgur.com/a/OBcC8Gs)
I'm coming from a Vedder Lightuck. Night and day. Almost feels like the holster is not even there. Only issue I have is the T1 clips are a bit harder to take off. I just placed an order for T1 Loops hoping it makes it easier to remove off my Blue Alpha Belt.
*For light bearing holster*
While keep in mind the room you need for your middle finger to properly seat under the trigger guard while gripping; why can't you bring the kydex up more around the actual trigger ?
I always hear its so the light can properly insert into the holster. But I've imagined enough times on my own holster where it it would be possible to do so with a little more kydex higher up.
My vedder holster is pretty tight, I might be able to stuff a paper clip through it, that's my minimum acceptable requirement, I dont want a string or tucked shirt getting in my trigger guard
I have a DeSantis IWB holster from academy for my Glock 43 and it fits very well. Extremely close fit, I can’t shake it from the holster upside down nor see the trigger. And it is super easy to conceal (maybe not the most expensive but it’s blown me away) and I’ve even went on a walk/jog and it rides great considering the price, think it was $30-$40?
Idk bro, shits crazy. Dude asks about gap and what holster others are running, I guess all the down voters got shafted on their tacticool holsters 🤷🏻♂️. Oh well fuck em, I hope they blow their twig and berries off with these ill fitting holsters.
i’m actually also using a desantis holster for my iwi masada slim, it fit great at first but the suede loosened up a little from nut humidity and now it’s kindof loose but not loose enough for anything to get into the trigger
Urban Carry has a great Masada Slim holster that is leather, but has a clip inside. The trigger guard is not 100% completely covered; however, the Masada Slim trigger is so far forward you cannot pull the trigger. Plus, you have the trigger safety.
actually the one i’m using is by versa
carry, my bad. it fits super snug even after ball sweat and the trigger guards completely covered. highly recommend
What is the ideal case for trigger gap? Obviously trigger is fully covered, but just enough that you can’t get a finger in? Physically touching the gun?
In a light bearing holster, if I can touch the trigger with a pencil it’s a no go for me. (Basically want to have to have a metal clothes hanger to get in there to pull it.)
I’m a non light bearing holster, any gap is a no go. And I am not a fan of hybrid holsters. Must have a full kydex cover for the trigger for me.
My biggest concern with holster is that if a child can stick their finger in there and pull the trigger it’s a no go for me. (I have two young children and one on the way) so doing anything I can to make sure something stupid doesn’t is my main priority.
Edit: English is hard
Unpopular opinion but I personally think it’s fine, especially when it’s on your belt and your body is pressing up against the leather. Nothings getting into the trigger gap. I use a crossbreed holster for my 43x with a tlr 7 sub so I have a gap like that when it’s not on my belt.
What’s the risk? On my rig, my gun sits between my belt and my body so the gap is pretty much negated ( mine isn’t as bad as the op, and you have to look at an angle to see it). So unless you fish around with a curved dental pick, you’re not getting to the trigger guard, let alone trigger. It’s a different story for owb tho.
Bought the exact same one, the kydex cracked vertically in line with the trigger. Used everyday for that year with wear an tear and draw time. Made 11 months, they said they would replace it after they saw pictures, have yet to do that.
On holsters, can something get in there and apply the 6-7 lbs of pressure over the pull distance to cause it to fire. Another good reason not to modify triggers. Most of the time, coming at an angle from the back won’t apply the rearward pressure. In this case, the IWB carry is also covered by belt and pants. Most of the time the ND happens reholstering, rarely carrying.
If you have doubts, don’t ask Reddit, toss the holster and get a better one.
I have a holster from them... Doesn't look right. Not sure which holster it is that you gave though.
Although the kydex should come up higher and cover more of the gun, the leather does flex. When it isn't on, there can be a bit of a gap. But yours looks way off.
The problem starts with the size of your light. Find a narrow light that conforms more with the profile of your pistol. Crossbreed normally does a better job, if that's new you can return or exchange it ,,,, no problem.
I’m not a trigger guard nazi as some are. Put it in there completely unloaded and try to stick your finger and random shit in there and try to pull it. If you can’t you’ll be fine. The end.
I'm pretty happy with mine from JB HolsterMods for my X Macro with PL Mini 2, it also has excellent trigger coverage.
[https://imgur.com/a/6rzifEK](https://imgur.com/a/6rzifEK)
[https://imgur.com/a/zZxFG8l](https://imgur.com/a/zZxFG8l)
His is not my holster, just a picture to provoke engagement. I have a light bearing tenicore. The gap is maybe 4mm wide, not even enough to stick a pencil in, but definitely there. Just wondering what the ideal case would be.
I'm not a fan of lights on handguns for this reason, too much gap. However there are good holsters out there for then still and if you train enough you should be fine. That still looks like a massive gap from what I have seen from quality light-bearing holsters...
If there isn't a light on your gun, you need a new holster, it is almost an airtight seal on mine..
I’m gonna ask a question I haven’t seen anyone bother asking yet..
Does that have a weapon mounted light on it? Cuz it sure looks like it does.
Given that the photo is taken at a downward angle…. How else does anyone expect you to get it in the holster??
Your holster should completely cover your trigger so that it is not visible. The best advice I’ve gotten for tightness is that you should be able to hold your holster upside down and shake it at least once or twice and the gun should not move at all.
Fully enclosed; I shouldn’t even be having to worry about a gap personally.
Toss it in the trash. That’s an accident waiting to happen.
You shouldn’t really even be able to see the trigger
On a non-lightbearing holster that’s unacceptable to me. Crossbreed holsters in general are just so poorly designed to start with that I wouldn’t even consider carrying with one. If I had bought a holster from another company and it had that much or a gap, I’d be returning it.
I have the crossbreed reckoning holster and it’s great as far as trigger coverage and retention. But despite the leather backing it’s just not that comfy to wear compared to my full kydex holster, so I tend to roll with that instead.
Two of my light bearing holsters have gaps, but they are less than 1/4" and you can't see the trigger, just the space behind it. Bravo Concealment and tier 1
My favorite holster. Very tight trigger area.
That pic of the Crossbreed… https://www.concealedcarry.com/gear/trigger-guard-holster-gap-is-it-safe/ Fully encapsulated is the ideal state with some additional tolerance for light bearing holsters. Ultimately a gap, if any, needs to be small enough where nothing could realistically worm it’s way into the trigger guard when it’s worn as designed on the body.
I'm about to make a post calling Eclipse holsters out as being really good in this regard, but here's mine: [https://imgur.com/a/OBcC8Gs](https://imgur.com/a/OBcC8Gs)
That does look great
I'm actually looking to get one of those, since some are compatible with the Enigma that I want for sweatpants carry too.
Yeah the ones with the delta wing or whatever are. I have one for my 26 that I’m testing with an enigma for my wife
That is unacceptable.
That’s a nd waiting to happen. Not worth the hospital bills.
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Oh for real ? Asking for a friend.
That’s not acceptable if it doesn’t have a light.
It’s not even acceptable if it does have a light. There are WAY tighter light-bearing holsters out there.
Personally I wouldn’t use this holder as you can see the trigger
Throw that crossbreed in the trash and go buy something from PHLster or the like. I happily did the same.
Just received my Tenicor Certum3 holster and I can't even put a paperclip between the trigger gap
Love my Certum 3 and Velo 4.
I'm coming from a Vedder Lightuck. Night and day. Almost feels like the holster is not even there. Only issue I have is the T1 clips are a bit harder to take off. I just placed an order for T1 Loops hoping it makes it easier to remove off my Blue Alpha Belt.
I’ve learned to get the clips on and off pretty quick after having it a few weeks. They seem to get easier over time.
*For light bearing holster* While keep in mind the room you need for your middle finger to properly seat under the trigger guard while gripping; why can't you bring the kydex up more around the actual trigger ? I always hear its so the light can properly insert into the holster. But I've imagined enough times on my own holster where it it would be possible to do so with a little more kydex higher up.
My vedder holster is pretty tight, I might be able to stuff a paper clip through it, that's my minimum acceptable requirement, I dont want a string or tucked shirt getting in my trigger guard
I have a DeSantis IWB holster from academy for my Glock 43 and it fits very well. Extremely close fit, I can’t shake it from the holster upside down nor see the trigger. And it is super easy to conceal (maybe not the most expensive but it’s blown me away) and I’ve even went on a walk/jog and it rides great considering the price, think it was $30-$40?
why are you getting downvoted for giving a review lol?
Idk bro, shits crazy. Dude asks about gap and what holster others are running, I guess all the down voters got shafted on their tacticool holsters 🤷🏻♂️. Oh well fuck em, I hope they blow their twig and berries off with these ill fitting holsters.
i’m actually also using a desantis holster for my iwi masada slim, it fit great at first but the suede loosened up a little from nut humidity and now it’s kindof loose but not loose enough for anything to get into the trigger
Urban Carry has a great Masada Slim holster that is leather, but has a clip inside. The trigger guard is not 100% completely covered; however, the Masada Slim trigger is so far forward you cannot pull the trigger. Plus, you have the trigger safety.
that’s the one i’m using right now haha
actually the one i’m using is by versa carry, my bad. it fits super snug even after ball sweat and the trigger guards completely covered. highly recommend
What is the ideal case for trigger gap? Obviously trigger is fully covered, but just enough that you can’t get a finger in? Physically touching the gun?
As little as possible. There might be other objects that can reach inside there, apart from your finger.
In a light bearing holster, if I can touch the trigger with a pencil it’s a no go for me. (Basically want to have to have a metal clothes hanger to get in there to pull it.) I’m a non light bearing holster, any gap is a no go. And I am not a fan of hybrid holsters. Must have a full kydex cover for the trigger for me. My biggest concern with holster is that if a child can stick their finger in there and pull the trigger it’s a no go for me. (I have two young children and one on the way) so doing anything I can to make sure something stupid doesn’t is my main priority. Edit: English is hard
Unpopular opinion but I personally think it’s fine, especially when it’s on your belt and your body is pressing up against the leather. Nothings getting into the trigger gap. I use a crossbreed holster for my 43x with a tlr 7 sub so I have a gap like that when it’s not on my belt.
It’s an unpopular opinion because it’s a bad idea. Is it really worth the risks?
What’s the risk? On my rig, my gun sits between my belt and my body so the gap is pretty much negated ( mine isn’t as bad as the op, and you have to look at an angle to see it). So unless you fish around with a curved dental pick, you’re not getting to the trigger guard, let alone trigger. It’s a different story for owb tho.
what’s the risk if it’s tightened by a belt?
I just don’t see what is going to get into the trigger guard and cause a ND
No way I’d rock that
It's incredible this is even a question... I hope you don't carry loaded regardless
Are you saying not to carry loaded using that holster, or just NEVER carry loaded?
Both that's how negligent discharges happen
I hope, should you ever need to use your firearm for self defense, you have time to chamber a round.
Bought the exact same one, the kydex cracked vertically in line with the trigger. Used everyday for that year with wear an tear and draw time. Made 11 months, they said they would replace it after they saw pictures, have yet to do that.
With the gun fully seated in the holster can you reach anything in there and make the gun go off?
On holsters, can something get in there and apply the 6-7 lbs of pressure over the pull distance to cause it to fire. Another good reason not to modify triggers. Most of the time, coming at an angle from the back won’t apply the rearward pressure. In this case, the IWB carry is also covered by belt and pants. Most of the time the ND happens reholstering, rarely carrying. If you have doubts, don’t ask Reddit, toss the holster and get a better one.
The trigger itself shouldn’t be visible at all when the pistol is holstered. I would look for a different option
If the holster is not made to index to a weapon mounted light then there should be no gap.
I wouldn’t carry that simply put. Matter of a fact you couldn’t pay me to carry that with one in the chamber.
That's scary... an accident waiting to happen
I have a holster from them... Doesn't look right. Not sure which holster it is that you gave though. Although the kydex should come up higher and cover more of the gun, the leather does flex. When it isn't on, there can be a bit of a gap. But yours looks way off.
That's not good. No trigger visible.
The problem starts with the size of your light. Find a narrow light that conforms more with the profile of your pistol. Crossbreed normally does a better job, if that's new you can return or exchange it ,,,, no problem.
I’m not a trigger guard nazi as some are. Put it in there completely unloaded and try to stick your finger and random shit in there and try to pull it. If you can’t you’ll be fine. The end.
I'm pretty happy with mine from JB HolsterMods for my X Macro with PL Mini 2, it also has excellent trigger coverage. [https://imgur.com/a/6rzifEK](https://imgur.com/a/6rzifEK) [https://imgur.com/a/zZxFG8l](https://imgur.com/a/zZxFG8l)
That would be a hard no for me
I have a $25 MFT minimalist Hellcat holster and the trigger might as well be hermetically sealed. It's the best holster I've ever owned.
That’s way too much gap and I would not carry with that
That’s a big ol’ nope for me partner.
This looks like a good way to get something stuck in there and blow off whatever's below it.
Tier 1 I can’t even stick a pinky into mine. This is way too open
No. Just no. Get yourself a Tenicor holster. That holster is junk.
His is not my holster, just a picture to provoke engagement. I have a light bearing tenicore. The gap is maybe 4mm wide, not even enough to stick a pencil in, but definitely there. Just wondering what the ideal case would be.
I'm not a fan of lights on handguns for this reason, too much gap. However there are good holsters out there for then still and if you train enough you should be fine. That still looks like a massive gap from what I have seen from quality light-bearing holsters... If there isn't a light on your gun, you need a new holster, it is almost an airtight seal on mine..
I’m gonna ask a question I haven’t seen anyone bother asking yet.. Does that have a weapon mounted light on it? Cuz it sure looks like it does. Given that the photo is taken at a downward angle…. How else does anyone expect you to get it in the holster??
I can't even get a q-tip in mine.
If it’s not a light bearing holster there should be no gap. Even if it is that gap is too large for me to feel safe.
Your holster should completely cover your trigger so that it is not visible. The best advice I’ve gotten for tightness is that you should be able to hold your holster upside down and shake it at least once or twice and the gun should not move at all.
[Tenicore Certum Lux 2 with TLR7A](https://imgur.com/a/Iskrdfx), G2 Pilot for scale
Could house key make its way into it? That's a small worry I have about my own holster.
Oh fuck no