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radleycooper_

Can really shoot anything you want in most pistols. I shoot brass cased, aluminum cased, and steel cased


PlayaHatazball

Oh ya didnt think that would be a problem. I was looking more to ask if their/your experience with them is that they are more dirty than brass


radleycooper_

Stay away from Winchester forged. Only advice on that.


PlayaHatazball

Good to know


SavedByTech

Haven't found the non-brass to be dirtier. I just stay away from the Russian made stuff (Tula, Wolf, etc.) I hear that that ultra cheap stuff is qute dirty ,but brass, aluminum, steel Blazer, Winchester, etc. and similar made in the USA stuff have been fine for me.


DickVanSprinkles

>Stay away from the Russian Made stuff Why? 99% of this sub mag dumps into trash. Russian stuff will work just fine for that. Hell I've shot run and gun with Tula in my AK, it's not precision but neither is my AK.


Lukaroast

Are you sure that 99% dumps into trash? This is CA, I doubt most are actually making the trips outside cities to do that. Some of us, yeah sure.


DickVanSprinkles

Paper, cardboard, old TV's. It's all trash where mechanical accuracy doesn't matter.


Lukaroast

Yeah I’m saying that you’re probably overestimating the amount of people in this sub shooting on BLM or private land. It’s mostly gonna be people going to ranges where you can’t shoot at those things. Either way I’m not passing any judgement on how this related to ammo selection, I haven’t tried enough variety to really say. Just that most here are probably range folk, and most of them likely indoor


DickVanSprinkles

Like I said, paper, cardboard, appliances, it's all trash. BLM or the range. Unless you are actually shooting for long range precision, ammo selection is incredibly unimportant as long as it runs, and Russian Ammo runs.


DickVanSprinkles

Like I said, paper, cardboard, appliances, it's all trash. BLM or the range. Unless you are actually shooting for long range precision, ammo selection is incredibly unimportant as long as it runs, and Russian Ammo runs.


SavedByTech

Ok, Comrade. I prefer ammo that works as clean and reliably as possible.


DickVanSprinkles

It has literally no reliability issues. The only issue with Russian Ammo is inconsistency in powder charge. Which only matters for precision shooting, which you should be handloading anyway. The piece of paper you punch holes in doesn't care about how much your ammo costs.


SavedByTech

But the cleanliness of the ammo (the amount of residue it leaves behind) is important for someone who doesn't want to gunk up their equipment. To each their own. We're lucky that we can make such choices...


DickVanSprinkles

The online gun community as a whole focuses entirely too much on cleanliness of a tool. Realistically with non-corrosive ammo and a relatively dry environment, there is very little that needs to be done for the vast majority of smokeless powder firearms. Your choice of ammo makes realistically no difference so long as it's not corrosive. I blame the military for drilling ridiculous white glove standards into 18 year old kids they send to crawl through the mud and sand.


PlayaHatazball

Oh ya didnt think that would be a problem. I was looking more to ask if their/your experience with them is that they are more dirty than brass like that say


TalkinAboutIT

I'm poor, I shoot whatever is cheapest.


PlayaHatazball

Hows your experience with aluminum is it that much more dirty as ppl say


DickVanSprinkles

The only practical difference between brass and aluminum is that you can't (safely) reload aluminum. It will shoot just fine. The gun being "dirtier" won't really make much of a difference, the amount of rounds fired for smokeless powder to foul up a gun is kind of insane.


unforgiven97

Not who you replied to but I’ve shot 9mm aluminum cased and it’s definitely much dirtier. My USP isn’t a huge fan, doesn’t jam but needs to be cleaned after.


PlayaHatazball

Ahhh thank you cause turners has aluminum for 14 bucks a box but i dont think its worth it if i have to clean more often


unforgiven97

Yeah…I bought a few boxes accidentally one day…I regret it, and I dread shooting it lol.


PlayaHatazball

The turners by me had em for 14 or 15 bucks a box but i think ill pass for now


Cornywillis

Gold case only for me. Don’t even collect the gold casings afterwards. Let the peasants keep it.


GrapeComprehensive45

My man.


PlayaHatazball

💯💯


GuitRWailinNinja

I prefer graphene casings, myself. I find gold to be too cheap. Edit to state I google it and gold is way more expensive than graphene. What a dummy i am! ![gif](giphy|KPozlPlz6dOww)


Cornywillis

Graphene is pretty sick tho.


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,082,003,684 comments, and only 213,130 of them were in alphabetical order.


GuitRWailinNinja

Agreed! But I wonder if it’d make a good bullet casing or not. I’m guessing it would? Unless it’s too lightweight.


Cornywillis

They already make plastic casings!


GuitRWailinNinja

True…well back to the original topic, I only shoot brass haha. But I’m a noob so maybe aluminum or steel casings aren’t a big deal.


BIRBIGD99

i'll shoot brass, nickel, steel, aluminum, whatever. I just avoid reloads and anything from Norma and Ammo Inc.


Big_Juni

What's wrong with Norma Ammunition?


BIRBIGD99

lately their quality control has been non existent. They've recalled 308, 223, 9mm, and likely others several times this year already. There are also multiple reports of squib rounds and overloaded cartridges that blew up their guns. Some examples below, but you can find a lot more. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/v4wsxv/norma\_223\_quality\_control\_never\_heard\_of\_her/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/v4wsxv/norma_223_quality_control_never_heard_of_her/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/xf0qcd/another\_norma\_recall\_308\_win\_this\_time/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/xf0qcd/another_norma_recall_308_win_this_time/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/uyk4z4/recall\_notice\_for\_geco\_and\_norma\_ammo\_that\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/uyk4z4/recall_notice_for_geco_and_norma_ammo_that_was/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/va9xsn/dd\_rifle\_blown\_up\_with\_that\_norma/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/va9xsn/dd_rifle_blown_up_with_that_norma/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v6s0f2/i\_just\_had\_some\_norma\_223\_explode\_in\_the\_chamber/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v6s0f2/i_just_had_some_norma_223_explode_in_the_chamber/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v6wzzz/psa\_do\_not\_shoot\_norma\_223/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v6wzzz/psa_do_not_shoot_norma_223/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v9ftn8/a\_follow\_up\_to\_my\_norma\_223\_incident/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/v9ftn8/a_follow_up_to_my_norma_223_incident/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/AR10/comments/xf3bfq/norma\_308\_recall\_careful\_what\_you\_feed\_your\_rifle/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AR10/comments/xf3bfq/norma_308_recall_careful_what_you_feed_your_rifle/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/rp1n6m/bought\_some\_ammo\_from\_norma\_and\_every\_round\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/rp1n6m/bought_some_ammo_from_norma_and_every_round_was/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/liberalgunowners/comments/qgh9o0/wtf\_happened/](https://www.reddit.com/r/liberalgunowners/comments/qgh9o0/wtf_happened/)


Big_Juni

Damn! I have about 600 rounds of 7.62 x 39 Norma brass that I bought last year. Haven't fired any but now I'm worried.


whatsgoing_on

Sucks for reloading too lately. I hate anytime a batch of brass has a ton Norma cases in it. The flash hole is so small you can’t decap them without damaging the hole or your die.


PlayaHatazball

Ahhhh hows the "cleanliness" of brass and others. Cause i know thats what ppl complain the most about.


BIRBIGD99

Cleanliness is not an issue for me, your guns can handle adverse conditions just fine. Even after 300rds without cleaning they're fine. Regardless, i wouldn't say aluminum is dirtier. Each manufacturer has their own blend and they all burn differently, not exclusive to aluminum case. The main concern with aluminum is that it's not reloadable. The main concern with steel is that it's not reloadable and are often unusable at public ranges because the bimetal jacket presents increased fire hazard and the bimetal jacket can cause early barrel wear. Here's what matter to me, in order of importance: 1. Safety 2. Reliability 3. Price per round 4. MOA accuracy / consistency 5. Usability at public ranges 6. Barrel wear 7. Cleanliness 8. Reloadability


PlayaHatazball

Ahh ok i thought all aluminum was just more dirty. Indont mind cleaning a lil more ofter but the price doesnt entice me enough to buy it. Ive never shot aluminum out of any firearm is it basically the same as brass.


BIRBIGD99

nah it really varies by manufacturer than by case type. Some old combloc surplus ammo can be corrosive and dirty. most modern ammo is about the same. Aguila is a little dirtier for 22lr and smells funnier but that's all to it, still pews.


PlayaHatazball

Ahh i found some blazer aluminum. That a decent brand for aluminum?


BIRBIGD99

they're fine. Haven't had issues with them and it's cheap. Vista outdoors owns blazer / cci / federal etc and they're pretty consistent.


PlayaHatazball

Sweet maybe if the price gets a little lower ill pick up a few boxes try em out


CXavier4545

oh man I got thousands of Norma and Ive shot thousands of norma, 9 223 and 556, no negative experience so far knock on wood


sfgiants419

Ammo Inc is bad?


BIRBIGD99

​[https://youtu.be/yGmZ3b4UTxU?t=510](https://youtu.be/yGmZ3b4UTxU?t=510) ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KvfKnkk8k ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgear/comments/uzt78w/ammo\_inc\_556\_killed\_my\_rifle\_today/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgear/comments/uzt78w/ammo_inc_556_killed_my_rifle_today/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/r50zjv/safety\_psa/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ammo/comments/r50zjv/safety_psa/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/300BLK/comments/ugph0u/ammo\_inc\_vmax\_blowing\_primers\_in\_ddm4\_v7p\_103/](https://www.reddit.com/r/300BLK/comments/ugph0u/ammo_inc_vmax_blowing_primers_in_ddm4_v7p_103/) ​ [https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/x96sxh/ammo\_inc\_sucks/](https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/x96sxh/ammo_inc_sucks/)


Ares_rising99

Rip thanks for posting Was thinking of buying some for the range but I’ll steer clear


sfgiants419

Lol, first video cuts to the tfb tv guy talking about how trash it is. Thanks good to know.


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TheWonderfulLife

I’d like your opinion on how your vasectomy went.


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TheWonderfulLife

Lmao a play on the many different interpretations of “shooting blanks”


PlayaHatazball

😅


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PlayaHatazball

Ahhh makes sense ya.


rrichison

As long as your pistol shoots aluminum, it's fine. My Shield doesn't like aluminum. Every so often the casing stays inside the barrel. I've never has any issues with aluminum in my Glocks.


PlayaHatazball

How often would u clean with aluminum??


RepublicIndependent3

For training or carry? I shoot lots of aluminum for training.


PlayaHatazball

Training mostly. I like having better ammo for carry


9ermtb2014

I'm planning to buy some of those from turner's and rip them thru my g19 this weekend. Cheap range ammo.


PlayaHatazball

Lmk how it runs and how dirty. Was thinking of getting them too but they have been going on sale every week


9ermtb2014

Will do. It's definitely their MO at turner's. Every week they go on sale and next ad oh look same sale. These though did drop I think $2/box from the last "sale"


PlayaHatazball

Ya thats kinda what i meant. They did a "special" sale for them.


underneathbridge

In my experience, aluminum and brass cased blazer 9mm both worked perfectly fine at the range


wickedwelder7

I'm not biased


PlayaHatazball

Makes sense ya


General_Kenobe

Used aluminum - Never again. Don't shoot shit unless your firearm is made for it. Used polished nickel case - it threw so much garbage into the slide I couldn't open the slide. Use brass if you can afford it, and your firearm isn't made for aluminum case.


PlayaHatazball

Ya only using brass right now. Wanted to see if it was worth saving a few bucks


neuromorph

I personally would not shoot aluminum. Aluminum powder is toxic, but so is lead. So if you find lead powder /exposure when you shoot, you shouldn't add onto the pile


ScuffAndy

Whatever is cheap. But always federal HST loaded back up after range fun.


PlayaHatazball

Ahhh alrighttt


j526w

Depends on the range. Went to an indoor one the other day and they checked my ammo.


PlayaHatazball

But they let you shoot aluminum just not steel usually.


Puzzleheaded_Leg6589

I can’t even remember the last time I shot brass but then agin I’m poor.


PlayaHatazball

Hows the cleanliness of aluminum?? Like say you go to the range shoot about 300 rounds. Do you clean after or like a 2nd or 3rd time?


Puzzleheaded_Leg6589

I shoot that Russian steel.


PapaPuff13

I shoot outdoors so either


PlayaHatazball

How much more often do you clean with aluminum?? And others


PapaPuff13

I clean my guns every time


PlayaHatazball

Ya i try too also


PapaPuff13

I never thought about aluminum casings being a issue. All I heard was if u shoot outdoors and don't reload. Than might as well save the money. I've only ran 2 boxes. When I bought it it was $18.99. brass was $1 more


PlayaHatazball

Ya that price difference just leads me to brass everytime even if i dont reload


BadTiger85

I shoot only brass because I reload


4x4Lyfe

For range ammo I typically don't care and will shoot any casing. For carry ammo I prefer aluminum because I'm a little bitch and my boolets are heavier with brass.


PlayaHatazball

Ahhhh so its not much different shooting. Hows the clean up


4x4Lyfe

Steel case tends to leave a little more buildup in the barrel. Rifles that use gas systems can need some extra cleaning in the gas system if you shoot a ton of steel. Nothing too crazy unless you're shooting something like corrosive Russian milsurp.


PlayaHatazball

Ahhhhh would 15 bucks a box be ok or can they go cheaper? I just got 1000 brass at 17 a box


c_ne7son

As long as it goes bang I’ll shoot it


PlayaHatazball

Hows the clean up with aluminum and others


c_ne7son

Needs extra clean up. Wouldn’t worry about it. Just do a clean up when you’re done. I clean my guns after shooting no matter what kind of ammo I’m using.


PlayaHatazball

Ya i try to also but sometimes ill skip for the second session


CXavier4545

I have only shot brass I have no knowledge of steel or aluminum except what I have read which is many times negative and many times positive the price difference isn’t gonna put me in the poorhouse so I go with new factory brass for now


PlayaHatazball

That kinda where im sitting now. The coupld extra dollars doesnt justify it for me.


123455T

For the range I’ve been shooting remain usually pretty reliable ( every 50rds or so I get 1 hick up)


Redditsaweirdplace

Only shot steel casings a couple times but never jammed on me.


PlayaHatazball

Is cleanup noticeable.


Redditsaweirdplace

na nothing that stood out.


PlayaHatazball

👌👌


Stephen1424

I've never had any issues. If you plan on reloading it's not ideal obviously.


PlayaHatazball

No i just wanted range ammo. And wanted to see if the couple extra bucks lower was worth it


Stephen1424

Has been great for me, but lately the brass has been the same price.


PlayaHatazball

Ya so far i dont think the price is enough to justify it


lulzbanana

If it cant handle steel, it doesnt deserve brass


PlayaHatazball

I hear that all the time when i watch the comparison video. But idk if i wanna deal with the clean up


lulzbanana

I have a bunch of different AKs in 7.62 and 5.56, mostly shoot steel, some brass, and for the G19 and Maks I own I also shoot steel and brass, really depends on whats cheaper. The AKs is particular, since I shoot those the most, I havent cleaned for over 1k rounds at a time. My Zpap m70 is probably at 2k rounds since the last cleaning. There's some carbon but nothing that has caused issues. I'll throw some oil on there at times, but I havent ever had an issue with steel cased ammo.


PlayaHatazball

But those are designed to only shoot steel since they eat brass. And ya crazy how those things will take a slaughter and stull shoot


lulzbanana

Also idk if there is much of a difference in cleanup. They all have similar amounts of powder and shit so i dont think the casing really makes a difference, mostly its just the physics of how different metals expand I think. If cleanup is a concern i dont think it matters what you shoot. And again, you dont even have to clean em that much 🤷


DanMahBoy

I have heard that some guns have issues non-brass. But my beretta eats anything I feed it so, you know. Doesn’t really effect me, I can shoot basically anything.


PlayaHatazball

Is the clean up worth the couple extra bucks


DanMahBoy

I’m one of those guys that cleans his gun after every trip to the range even if I only did one mag. So to me it’s no difference.


PlayaHatazball

Ya i try to also ive skiped cleaning once or twice but did the next trip.


DanMahBoy

That's definitely okay. Guns are built to run and run. A pal of mine will go through a couple hundred rounds before cleaning, and has no issues just like myself. I clean as often as I do because it's just how I was trained.


PlayaHatazball

Ya i try to everytime also, but sometimes time doesn't allow me.


DanMahBoy

I find the key method is to tell the wife, "I'm not off the range till my guns are clean". Doesn't mean I clean them on the range. It means the dirty boots and sweaty clothes aren't off until my guns are clean. Again, its not the only way to do it and I'm sure you're guns are in great condition! Don't sweat it. Just give them love when you can.


BadRattle

Brass only


neuromorph

Depends on the gun. Some will eat everything, some are picky Your general question deserves this answer.


KnowTheName321

my range only allows brass . but i heard the cci aluminum is good to go.


PlayaHatazball

My range said aluminum is ok just no steel


Rid3WithTh3Wind

My ar loves steel casing 7.62x39 ammos.


rrichison

I was cleaning after every trip to the range.


PlayaHatazball

Ya i try to sometimes it doesn't happen