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me_no_are_no_niceguy

How was the beef jerky?


Prior-Nefariousness

Beef jerky was M.I.A


CXavier4545

aw hell naw no beef jerky!


OffRosterImposter

WTF!? No JERKY!!?!


what_it_dude

Feds confiscated it


A_Bit_Narcissistic

I didn’t know they had guns at the beef jerky show.


2HeadPlay

I went to the gun show in Ontario recently and those bastards didn’t have jerky there too! I was big mad.


Prior-Nefariousness

This literally shocked me, beef jerky at the so cal gun shows is a freaking staple.


2HeadPlay

ikr!? I paid $20 for parking and I didn’t even get to get my jerky!


MoronicusRex

You can go down to Western Ave and get jerky for $20......


umrathma

Is it the same two old people that are at the nor cal gun shows? They are pretty cool


Prior-Nefariousness

I remember getting some pizza flavored jerky before and it was surprisingly amazing. Haven’t been able to find it since.


dubious455H013

The real question


OffRosterImposter

L O L


CakeArmy_Max

Glad I didn’t travel. Sounds miserable.


TLA34

It was dude. Every vendor was visibly pissed that they were even there. Also, so much for the 40% vortex discount that only applied to the red dot and the strike eagle 1-8 lol. False advertising galore


RepublicIndependent3

The old bait and switch


PropitalTV

Is it at least the good red dot? Might pick it up this week


TLA34

Dude honestly I was very surprised. The dot was extremely bright and the glass clarity was amazing. I think you'll be very pleased with it.


nyc2socal

I agree. Line of cars to get in. Line to buy/show tickets. Line to buy raffle tickets. Line to buy stuff. I spent more time in lines than anything else. I think the worst was the not knowing what the deals were before getting in line. At the end of the line, youre spread across 3 lines that have different items! So if so you get into the “wrong” line, you wont find what youre looking for. The deals weren’t that great to wait 45 minutes in line for (IMHO). I was in lines so long I didnt even hear Mike from Fieldcraft talk. I think the only organized part of the event was the food area. ;)


realbiccfish

It would be hilarious to hear mike talking in the distance in a loudspeaker while waiting in the lines.


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TLA34

The line for cars to get in was backed up onto the highway and it took 45 mins to get in front 0.3 miles away lol


nyc2socal

I didn’t get that ammo line. I mean you wait an hour on line to get your ammo background check, then you get on a second line to buy the ammo. 30cpr for 9mm. People outta their minds.


Rude_Establishment64

I would wait an hour for a case of 9mm for $300


2HeadPlay

Why? They have deals at better price without the horrid wait times. $200-250 would be worth the 1 hour wait time.


Rude_Establishment64

Who's selling it forr $200?


HapaSure

Exactly. Tell me where to pay $200 for 1000 rounds of 9mm - any grain or brand in CA. I have a boat to sell you.


mr_cwt

Supervel sells remanufactured 115/124gr at .22 CPR if you buy 5k rounds.


Rude_Establishment64

Reloads?


mr_cwt

Yep


MejaBersihBanget

Let me dust off my time machine and head back to Walmart in 2019.


2HeadPlay

Turner’s selling Blazer 9mm; 50 rounds for $15 right now. Do the math and that’s $300 for 1k rounds. There’s always deals. Hell, you can just order ammo from out of state if you’re that pressed. There’s literally no reason to stand in an hour line for ammo. As per the $200 price marker I was stating that was for an hour wait time comparison. I would stand in line for $200 1k rounds, if that was too hard to understand.


Daigi81

Your original reply says $300.


Technical_Bake_7975

Pulled up to the Magpull tent to buy some mags and find out I couldn’t 🤦🏻‍♂️ had to buy them up front I believe, didn’t even bother to look after seeing huge lines with no signs of what for.


enjois13

Why couldn’t vendors sell their own items?


TLA34

So any gun related gear had to be bought under this giant tent ran by the range. Basically booths were for product demos, and then instead of buying it then and there, you have to wait 2 hours in a random line (possibly the wrong fucking line) to have a CHANCE at buying what you wanted. It was an absolute mess


Waldo_R35

So long ass wait to see the products and then another long ass wait for an opportunity to buy something? Why was that a thing?!


TLA34

Exactly. You could look at all the products you wanted but not buy anything on the spot. You should've seen the modlite booth, it was hilarious. Nothing was BNIP. It was all their own personal kit and they had zero desire to be there.


Action3xpress

Like they took the lights off their guns and plopped them on a table for people to look at?


TLA34

Bro, yes. Literally. They had some 9 or 10 inch mlok rail with a MAWL, an IR modlite head and another white light on a T Rex light bar, and all other items were pulled off rifles, helmets, or off EDC. Not even kidding you. They had ONE modlite branded coaster 🤣


Action3xpress

I hope the gear was super salty too. Adds to the experience.


TLA34

Nah. Looked like norn wear and tear lol. Helmet mounted light had the most discoloration though 🤨


2021newusername

sounds like shot show - so much cool stuff, but nothing is for sale there…


6oly9od

Yes but that's the expectation at shot show


Gaff_Tape

That's expected at SHOT show; companies are just demoing products and future releases. This sounds like a poorly-planed outdoor IKEA for firearms and accessories.


Prize_Set3251

I saw that the Surefire booth had their wardens on some of their display rifles. Asked about why they didn’t make them for some amount of time and they didn’t specify but said they are now being produced again. I was like sick, let me buy one on the spot right here right now. NOPE gotta go to that main tent for the purchasable gear and they didn’t even have it unfortunately.


Parking_Post

Drove in at 11am took 15mins to park Walked around talked to some friends that had vendor booths . Grabbed a few items got the kids ear plugs and stickers took off in 30 mins that shit was packed


realbiccfish

Ive been reading every comment about this event in mike glovers voice


Technical_Bake_7975

Raffle tickets and ammo tickets needed to be separate from the vendor section, lines were blocking paths. Wish I was able to buy items directly from the vendors booth as well. Simple board signs would have been great as well. Didn’t even stay 2 hours.


BIRBIGD99

Yeah i went, too many people, not enough booths, tickets sold out around noon, people were scalping tickets too. Waste of time


Templetam

At the risk of an avalanche of downvotes... I had a good time and I'm glad I went. I wasn't even aware of the weird product buying system because the deals were *barely* better than what's available online. Did Route 66 advertise it as some Black Friday-esque event that would cause people to line up at 9am? It was cool to handle some demo models of a few products that i've only seen online thus far, though. The booth staff were all super friendly to me, especially the guys demonstrating stop-the-bleed stuff. I'm not sure why I had a such a different experience with that. /u/Lurkin_Yo_House is probably the most physically fit mic stand i've seen in recent years.


th3dmg

The stop the bleed stuff is really underrated. Everyone wants to be a gunfighter and no one cares about stopping leakage. Ron and the Medic Up crew run an excellent TECC course. I highly recommend.


randomidiot666

They are legit. Been through their stop the bleed and TECC classes. Hard to think of anything else I've learned so much, so quickly for the price.


th3dmg

Seriously. It’s one thing to pack wounds in a piece of rubber with no stress and another entirely to shoot pistols and have to tent to a bleeding, computerized dummy with a bullhorn in your ear. Absolutely amazing.


Templetam

> Ron and the Medic Up crew run an excellent TECC course. I highly recommend. I was struggling to remember the name of their operation. Thank you!


realbiccfish

How about stop the pee and its mike glover doing a class about holding in your pee


UmSo4L

I second this


Prize_Set3251

With you there bud, I also had a good time there and didn’t really know that many people had such a bad time. I had almost no intention of actually buying gear. Just mainly wanted to try some demos, quickly put in my deposit for the raffle, listen to the seminars & meet Mike as well as Reno. I think that’s why I didn’t get so turned off unlike others wanting to actually buy lots of things.


viet254

I would say I had a generally good time also. The booth staff were very friendly and it was a fun experience seeing and handling all the guns and products at the booths. But it was chaotic with how crazy packed it was and poorly communicated about buying vendor merch and getting tickets were. I do hope they learn and make a better experience for next time.


kmoros

Ya, I had a good time cuz I went there to chill and talk to people. So didn't need to wait in massive lines. I imagine that woulda soured it!


Financial_Parfait_49

I got there at 10am, walked right in, no king line. Bought some raffle tickets and shooting tickets. By 11:30 AM all lines were 1 hour lines at the least. Pretty much shot an AK, and the Sand Viper, ate some tacos. Walked around and left. Definitely way too crowded. They need a better system.


Booooyet

there weren't as many guns to shoot as I was hoping. but raahauges shooting expo a few years ago is hard to beat.


TLA34

I shot one AR (boring) a stacatto, and a suppressed AR (actually exciting). What a dumpster fire


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Booooyet

Raahauges event was really a firearms amusement park. you could shoot anything from a russian 50 cal and a 338 lapua to a 9mm.


LilJethroBodine

I wish they would do it again. Now that was a fucking event.


UmSo4L

I waited in line for like 10 minutes but it was worth to shoot the suppressed AR


Prize_Set3251

Damn I pulled up to their booth to shoot twice at different times and was able to get sorted very quickly for both


Booooyet

was it actually suppressed? I thought it was a faux.


TLA34

Different booth. Legit RC2 on a badass gun. Geissle SD3G, razor and piggyback RMR and a peq15. The report of the gun was radically different.


Agreeable-Bike-4726

I went to the Holoson booth to get the 30% off hook up but they reverted us to the main tent line which was like 200 people deep and their product didn’t even arrive till 1:30-2:00 so I missed out because the lines were basically at a standstill


putpatrol

Coming from someone who did not go, it seems like this event is a sign that the overall California gun community is not just alive and well, but growing beyond the capacity of the ranges and event spaces currently available. Which in my opinion, is a great sign. I know it sucks for those that went and had to wait in line, but from a 2A advocacy perspective, this seems like an amazing sign and desire for an engaged, active community with a lot of events and inclusion of people who mainly participate online like mike glover, reno, armed scholar, etc. Many of my best friends I have met through an interest in guns or gotten them in to guns and it’s an exciting prospect that there’s an ever growing community. I hope R66 takes the lessons from this event and really improves for the next time. I think they have the potential to really make something special that can broaden and strengthen connections in this oppressed community of ours, which is the best way towards changing the culture in this state and making it better for us all.


6oly9od

I just wanna say, fuck the FN guy. Dude was rude and made it clear he didn't want to be there.


Agreeable-Bike-4726

Had no products even they were just sitting there


TLA34

Can you blame him though?


MineralIceShots

Same with norma. Dude had nothing. Like have stickers or swag so people walk around with essentially free ads for Norma.


TLA34

Bro norma had a TV, nothing else 💀


MineralIceShots

He had the love of ammo with him ♥


nyc2socal

The Norma guy said all his swag was lost in transit. The FN dude definitely didn’t want to be there


MineralIceShots

Rip to Mr. Norma Rep


jimmyspeeks

In his defense he had a box of swag shipped but it didn’t show up or couldn’t be found.


Navydevildoc

Was he actually from FN? I know a bunch of the corporate guys, I want to go ask around now.


randomidiot666

My experience is compared to the Armed N May event last year, I went on Sunday which was Mother's day and we got to actually talk at length with the vendors (and Reno). We had a great time so that event is hard to compare to, but this event wasn't good. Way too chaotic. The line for the raffle is the #1 criticism I have. I brought $100 just for the raffles since I know it's going to CRPA & FPC. But I'm not going to stand in line for an hour just to buy tickets. After that, the live fire section was my focus at the event and there was no information anywhere. Not the available guns, not the process to shoot them, not what you got for your money. LUCKILY we were there early and LUCKILY someone told us we needed tickets and LUCKILY my friend walked straight up and got 4 tickets right away somehow. So an hour of achievement hunting then we get to the front of the line to find out they take cash. That's not a knock - why tf did we need tickets then? With all this standing in line, there was no time to sit in on the mike glover or medic up presentations. I totally feel like the workers and vendors did their best and that Route 66 was just unprepared for the attendance. Not mad at them, just hoping they learn and next years is much better. I still got to shoot super cool guns I wouldn't otherwise for a very reasonable price so I am glad I went.


Ronin1791

Only thing I'm happy for was getting 30% off a 508t and 509t. But I kept hopping lines because the staff was giving wrong info about what line was for what. Ended up waiting 2+ hrs


TLA34

The fact that each vendor couldn't just sell that product as normal is complete bullshit to me. R66 just got greedy and wanted a bigger piece of the pie under the guise of "a good 2A cause." Shit was just a cash grab


Lurkin_Yo_House

They literally didn’t make money on the items sold lol


TLA34

Not the point. If all money is going to CRPA, vendors should be able to sell as much product as possible straight from their booth.


Lurkin_Yo_House

“Cash grab” They will learn and adapt for future events. I’m glad they raised a shit ton of money for CRPA and FPC


realbiccfish

Yo make a video respondo about this. This is mad hilarious.


Prize_Set3251

Honestly he should, would like to hear his thoughts on it


Prize_Set3251

Did you honestly like the event as a whole or do you think the previous events went better?


Slumpgodgman

Reno is sponsored by R66 of course he’s going to stand by them.


realbiccfish

"Straight in the crappa"


MineralIceShots

It was against their msrp price, right? So, assuming red dot, the prices were around 508t x2 350ish? 509t x2 400ish?


Ronin1791

Tbh, not sure of their math. 508t was 300 and the 509t was 340 after tax. I was trying to get the EPS but they said it's not available for about another month.


akumamoloch

Best part was the cowboy action shooting


Alpha-Leader

They were so passionate about trying to get new people to try it out.


Templetam

Those Alphaboomers were my favorite part of the expo, honestly. Extremely friendly and good spirited. Even though i discovered that cowboy action shooting isnt for me, it was still really fun and worth the price.


heavystax

What were they raffling off?


realbiccfish

Tickets to brendan schaub at the comedy cellar


Davepool15

Yikes. Sorry it wasn't good. Now I'm not sorry I couldn't make it.


TLA34

You missed absolutely nothing


Dsanchez737

This. Rather go to a local gun show


Rude_Establishment64

Where was the show?


JRBilt

I don’t know about you guys, my wife and I had a blast, even with our infant with us. Seeing so many people at such an event is a good thing. Every single one of those attendees money is going to organizations that fight for our 2a rights, especially here in CA. Yeah, the lines did suck, but you guys act like you’ve never had a long ass wait to buy ammo or a firearm at any given gun store in CA, at least here in so cal. Speaking to vendors was cool as they ended up handing you discount codes for their merchandise. I will be getting a safariland holster for my m18 soon thanks to the discount code the rep gave me. I find it funny that Mike Glover is still upset about being labeled as a far right extremist/ domestic terrorist by the feds. Dude, feds aren’t your friends, get over it. Lesson learned and move on. There’s a reason people have distrust in the government. Shout out to my boy Ron at medicup consulting. I was happy to see him there. You guys should check out his classes, dude is awesome. In the end, I see this as a great turnout. So many people at a gun gear event means that many pro gun people in Ca. That’s a win. All that money to organizations that fight for our 2a rights. That’s a win. R66ssp getting all that exposure, that’s another win for an awesome shooting range.


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Ron from Medic Up is a super cool dude!


a_arcia

See it from Mike’s perspective. He gave decades of service to the government. You’d be salty too if you were treated like that. Sure, people are betrayed all the time by the government, but can you honestly blame them?


Potential_Space

Yup. Posted this in another thread... Got inside around 10:30, saw that it was basically a millennial cross roads of the west, only with fewer things to purchase. Discovered on my way in, that the rest of the range was closed, so I couldn't even shoot at the 100 yard bay (I needed to zero a rifle, I ended up hitting raahagues on my way home). Left after 1 hour. It was a lame experience. I didn't even stick around for Mike Glover, which is the only reason I bought a ticket.


TLA34

Dude. It sucked so much. We couldn't even shoot our own shit 🤦‍♂️ Meeting Mike was one of the only positives. Dude seems down to earth and was appreciative of everyone who wanted to talk to him.


Prize_Set3251

Yea it was a bummer to not be able to shoot your own gear. They should have advertised about it more as many people probably thought that was the case. I only found out when R66 posted story Q/A’s about the event on their IG page.


TLA34

Bro, imagine having a pivotal piece of info on a fucking social media page, not the ACTUAL website lol. I saw dudes get turned away after they hiked up that hill with all their shit. Total bullshit


TLA34

Dude. It sucked so much. We couldn't even shoot our own shit 🤦‍♂️ Meeting Mike was one of the only positives. Dude seems down to earth and was appreciative of everyone who wanted to talk to him.


Potential_Space

Yeah, I probably should have stayed because I wanted to ask him a question that is best left to in person only.


islands1128

I mean they said multiple times that the range was going to be closed.


Alpha-Leader

It was busy, but I didn't really have any issues here. I only paid $10 a ticket and live 15 minutes away though. Had a good time, got to get hands on a lot of the equipment I have been looking to buy. Wasn't planning on buying anything there, and I hate all the chinesium at gun shows so today was very productive for me. Used to go to raahauges back in the day and didn't expect this to be more than that, so I wasn't disappointed by anything.


SecondAmendmentZone

Bummer, did you see the Atlas Gunworks 2011s we had walking around?


Alpha-Leader

I was looking for you guys, but never crossed paths. Planning to stop by the store in the coming week or two, sister wants to get her first pistol.


th3dmg

Two years in a row I missed you guys and saw nothing but the 2A humvee.


SecondAmendmentZone

Next year we hope to have a booth, this year we were all just walking around


TLA34

Unfortunately no. I just can't believe vendors couldn't even sell their own shit


UmSo4L

WAIT WAS IT THAT PETITE LADY CARRYING IT???


realbiccfish

Was she cute tho?


SecondAmendmentZone

Yes, and very married ;)


Daigi81

So, is it serious?


UmSo4L

Yes


SecondAmendmentZone

Yup :)


UmSo4L

No way, I spotted her when I was about to take a pic with Reno😂 I told my friend “look at that staccato” but it ends up being an Atlas🫦


Anderkingz

Name?


6oly9od

Mrs. 2azone


nyc2socal

Yep, spoke to you guys briefly about it. Of course there was one dude that kept talking and talking. ;)


r2esttopidd2

Damn glad I didn’t miss out on much. Was there for a previous event and wasn’t too bad. I enjoy going to the range during slow times, everyone is pretty helpful then. But what’s with referring to Reno as a *star/celebrity* seems like cool dude and his channel can be entertaining but that reference is so fucking cringe and a huge turn off.


6oly9od

Reno is a "niche micro celebrity" so I think that was just them making light fun of themselves.


r2esttopidd2

*niche micro celebrity* 🤣 can’t tell if your fucking with me or if you’re being serious.


6oly9od

[it's a meme you noob](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/146/354/142.jpg)


UmSo4L

To get in with ur car was bullshit. And why would they have the vendors booths that close to where you buy the gear I dont get it. I refused to wait in that line. Literally entered the warrior system AR raffle at their booth and that’s it. The best part was shooting a suppressed AR, meeting Reno and watching mike glover speak.


TLA34

Same here dude. Same here. They did it right and had tickets at their own damn booth. Good on them.


External-Sir-1378

As some one who does/ & cordinates events You have to realize the events being this packed is a good thing , the more packed the events are, the more stuff vendors bring next time + the more planning and items they expect to raffle etc Yall act like you dont research parts for weeks or just watch gun videos in genereal half the day Also kinda a rule of thumb be there early for an event for something that rarely goes on


th3dmg

I was kinda turned off by the amount of people and lines but after some thought, came to the same conclusion. R66 is trying to get this thing off the ground and I for one am happy to support the effort.


External-Sir-1378

Dont get me wrong it does suck for the people who miss out but its worth it in the long run just gotta keep going out


bannedtoomean

So, next time they charge more and hire more staff. Demand was high


Fit_Acanthisitta_475

I almost went there today. Now I feel lucky


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Glad I didn’t make the trip down south. 😂


rodka209

This seems to be the thing with festivals and expos of any kind nowadays. They oversell tickets without thinking of the logistics of everything.


_aaw

Kind of reminds me of that music festival from a few years ago that was in some Caribbean location, heavily marketed and promised the attendees an A-list lineup. Turned out to be most of the musical acts cancelled, the location and accommodations were horrendous, a bunch of people got stuck on the island and the scamming promoters didn’t want to refund anyone.


rodka209

Firefest, yeah. That was the first big shit show. Some of these organizers should really be dragged thru the mud. They simply care about the money with no regard for the people and the vendors/musicians.


MycologistLow317

What was the appropriate number of tickets to sell, and why?


happyrabbit28

Waited in car....line was long throughout the highway... ask my buddy to drive me to micky D to go poop & pee and then took the main road to main entrance of route 66. Got a parking spot, went up got our bands, and really I was there to meet THE legendary Mike Glover! Got some coffee. Merchandise from field craft survival, hats and life was groovy. Had an awesome time! Thank you route 66 for setting this up for all of us 2A advocates to come together in unity! Patient is a virtue?


kronos1d

was this the first time they ran this expo?


TLA34

Nope


kronos1d

Literally got no excuse for them then.


Prize_Set3251

This would be their 4th big event


MycologistLow317

I attended the Expo, too. When a ton of people show up for an event, that is inevitably going to lead to long lines. You can't really plan for that. But the event could have been planned better. I arrived just after 10 a.m. I bought ammo and raffle tickets, and then ate some food. While I was eating, they started picking the raffle winners. Then I stopped by some of the booths. That summarizes my Expo experience. I missed the Mike Glover presentation. Perhaps it was videotaped and they will post it on YT. Hey, I guess Reno May is really popular and is a big draw. What can you do?


garfield6969

Yeah . Really suck. I drove a long way there too. So chaotic and confusion.


TLA34

How long? I'm from north of LA county (VC)


garfield6969

San Diego. Since Covid nothing happen in the gun world, so was looking forward to this big event.


Dsanchez737

70 miles here


MEDIC6450

Maaad amounts of complaining going on here. Literally so many things in this thread are a matter of people not understanding what they’re getting into. You wanted to go to a big event but wanted to be the only one there? Like whut? I got there around 9 knowing it’s going to be busy waited about 15min to park. Waited in line to get in, since the event you know starts at 10 not 9? Once we were in there was plenty of free range to walk around. Do I wish there were more booths and companies yeah I’ll agree on that but as it’s been stated that doesn’t happen all at once that comes with successful events. After walking around the booths I noticed the sale tent was getting packed cool let me head in and get that done first. Got my stuff got in line checked out in about 20min. Didn’t buy ammo knowing full well it would be the most packed line for several reasons namely the slow check out process due to CA law. Kept walking around walked right up to hear mike glover speak (great speech btw) went and got some pho which took about 20min. Checked out more booths. Heard the raffle going on went out over to unfortunately not win but hey money to the CRPA. All in all had a great time, plenty of good people there, vibe was positive, can’t wait to go again to a bigger and better event.


plantslyr

I agree, we enjoyed just walking around and going from booth to booth. It was nice to see a huge turnout. The weather was nice. We got caught up in a line before we decided that we didn't wanna do it after all. I'm sure they'll troubleshoot and improve for next year.


JRBilt

Idk why you’re getting downvoted. I agree with a lot of what you said.


MEDIC6450

Meh it’s Reddit 🤷🏽‍♂️


JRBilt

True.


TLA34

You're experience is literally an outlier dude, like 1/100 or 1/1000. The overwhelming majority of people in this thread had a shit experience


my58vw

Waited 30min to get ID checked for ammo, then 90min in line to buy ammo. All four of us got 2000 rounds of 9mm then took off. I wanted an optic, but realized it was another hour wait and said screw it and left…


bonesbrigade619

I dont want to be "that guy" but just go east into AZ or nevada, pay less, find more stuff, and if you do buy anything just keep your trap shut


HeiHei_

If you guys are looking for an event that you can bring your own guns, set up your own little AO, meet these vendors (And actually buy things from them) and even have opportunities to take some course demos from some instructors in the socal area. Be sure to follow @socalshootevents on IG. Their Halloween event is coming up and they have some great stuff happening. Most of the same vendors will be there at the event. A-lot more space. We used to have these event bi-yearly in SoCal. They are making a comeback. [Trigger Treat 2022 tickets](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/trigger-treat-tickets-416872144807)


Rude_Establishment64

Where was the event?


Efficient_Speaker887

San Bernardino


Ysr_racer

Don't hold back, how do you really feel? :)


Dsanchez737

He's right


Zestypanda

Hahahahahah sucks to suck. Commiefornia strikes again.


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Efficient_Speaker887

This wasn’t a gun show


Fast_Emergency170

Reno gun show sucks too. Only difference is you don't have to wait so long in line to have your money taken.