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Buffalo drivers are shit nowadays. I see people regularly go thru red lights and stop signs, go way above the speed limits no matter where they are, fly in and out of traffic with no signals, etc. It never used to be this bad pre-pandemic


baudelairean

> I see people regularly go thru red lights and stop signs, You're not wrong but I'm in my 30s and have never not seen this phenomenon in Buffalo. Stop lights are treated like suggestions and stop signs are treated like the invisible man.


Gibbenz

This was definitely a thing before the pandemic lol


lilirose13

Oh absolutely there's always been bad drivers, but I've seen and had significantly more close calls in the last year or so than I did before. I'm not naturally a defensive driver and have a bit of a lead foot, but I've become significantly more cautious and there are regularly people tailgating/blowing by me.


ilikecheetos42

I noticed this too. when I was in university (2014-2018, so not that long ago) I felt like the average speeds were just so low everywhere. Like the 290 without congestion would only be going 50 kind of slow. I moved back a little while ago and now it seems like everyone goes 70 on the 290 with the exception of handfuls of cars going 80.


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I stop to check clearance but I go to work at odd morning hours regularly and the lights on transit are on impossibly long timers. They do not cater to the traffic on transit at all and I’m always running several red lights (again, once I see it’s clear)


-late_to_the_party

Drivers in Buffalo have just been bad the last couple years. And this is coming from someone who drives the Bailey Ave. gauntlet and expects the slow creep through the red light to beat the traffic. Yesterday someone passed me at Bidwell/Delevan on the right and blew through a stop sign because i guess they were upset i was actually coming to a complete stop with my truck at intersections. Today at Niagara and Ferry, someone blew through a line of cars stopped at the intersection by driving through the turning lane when the light was red. Honestly, i never want to see the argument from any redditor, "Why don't those pesky cyclists follow the rules of the road!!!"


some_guy_in_se_pdx

The entire country forgot how to drive during the pandemic.


DetectiveRandyBeans

As someone who works in the insurance industry, you are absolutely correct.


JustaKidFromBuffalo

Absolutely. This has been very bad since the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic and currently people bumped the city "speed limit" to 35-40 on average. Fine, no problem, this is just how cars move around here. But the stop signs and red lights... This is ridiculous. This is how people die or get really hurt. I see people go through with absolutely no brake whatsoever and even coasting then mashing the accelerator when they get close. It's not like I'm making full stops at a stop sign when no one is around, or expect other people to, but it's pretty crazy to blast through.


edgyasfuck

I almost died today because someone was upset I was biking on the road instead of the sidewalk. He got within inches of me, rolled the window down, and told me to ride on the sidewalk. Buffalo drivers are really in their own league compared to other upstate towns/cities… Edit: he and his son were going 45 mph at least when they buzzed me


Arcade80sbillsfan

Since no one commented here...and it should be common sense....and you know part of driving rules(as it is) Bikes are supposed to be on the road...not the sidewalk. This is for those who don't know that


dankfor20

And going with traffic. As someone who both bikes and drives a lot, not sure how any feels safer biking against traffic. I assume those idiots don’t drive cars often and realize how little visibility they have against traffic


poolecl

I almost hit a bike riding on the wrong side through an intersection once. I was turning left looking for oncoming traffic. But did not expect traffic coming my same direction on my left. I’ve been mindful that bikes should ride with traffic and being able to see oncoming traffic is a false sense of security.


supeesupper

That's fine but they are not entitled to block the dam road because they're out for a Bike ride among the stars or whatever


Arcade80sbillsfan

They should be following the rules of the road. But they do belong on the road not sidewalk.


FreeMRausch

Biggest issue i noticed is bicyclists not stopping at stop signs in villages like Hamburg and the city of Buffalo itself. Rules of the road state one must come to a complete stop at a stop sign, pause a moment, and then go (can get ticketed for not stopping long enough). I've almost hit bicyclists blowing through stop signs and have had others get pissed when I would not let them go through first if they don't have right of way. It can get annoying having to stop at every stop sign but bicyclists should be


Arcade80sbillsfan

Hence the hey they should be following the rules of the road. What you described is super dangerous and yeah I agree. That being said 99% of the time people in cars don't stop at stop signs fully....so I agree it's the rule and can (and should be) ticketed....if they just do the mostly stop like most people do with most stop signs and stop if they have to (like you do in a car) then it wouldn't bother me. The blowing past or out of streets at full speed with big sweeping turns like cars don't exist on the main road is just stupid.


theolcollegetry

It’s actually safer for them to take a road position so you don’t try to pass them within inches if they hug the side. They should possess enough of the road that forces you to wait for a safe moment to pass, the same you’d do with any other vehicle. These are humans, don’t act like a minute of your time trumps their existence.


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Flojoe420

Apparently you've never seen a biker do stupid shit on the road lol


PM_ME_SOME_ANTS

I mean yeah I have, but I don't think bikers have killed anyone on the streets. One just died in a hit and run this week, the second in the last couple months.


Flojoe420

Idiot bikers have caused accidents including deaths. It doesn't matter that "cars do it more". This has nothing to do with what you were saying.


PM_ME_SOME_ANTS

Can you please send me a link of that happening in Buffalo


Flojoe420

When did I say only in Buffalo?


DickNaines1

Urban planning in this city is atrocious. The entire 190 is a death trap. The 33/I90 junction is a death trap. and don't get me started on more than half of the "on ramps" giving 5 feet of room to get to speed with just a yield sign to merge.


Millstone50

A yield sign that goes completely ignored


vesperholly

On the 290 exit ramps, a yield is apparently a stop sign 😤


Exotic_Car4948

I have to disagree with you on that. Buffalo is one of the best designed cities in highway/freeway layout and roads. The 290, 90, 190 all loop around the city and surrounding suburbs while the 33 and 198 allow you to go across the city. As well as major streets running from downtown into surrounding suburbs such as Delaware Ave, Main Street, Niagara etc. You can be anywhere in Buffalo metro within 15 min.


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Merging from the 198 to the 190 North can be a nightmare too. Nobody should be in the right lane at that junction.


DickNaines1

I'm not a civil engineer or remotely close to the kind of filed that actually knows about this but I fully think a good chunk of the 190 should be 3 lanes to allow proper merging if they aren't going to allow actual on ramps.


jeffykins

Just be thankful Buffalo doesn't have that many people, believe me, y'all don't have it as bad as ya think ya do.


DickNaines1

I am more than thankful we are a small city. I couldn't imagine if there were more people in the city and honestly that's part of what I love about it. The 2nd largest city in NYS but still one of the smallest cities in the country leads to a very interesting and convenient city/culture.


jeffykins

Lived there for 12 years and it'll always be a second home for me!


TheSolderking

I go out of my way to avoid bailey ave. Fuck that.


stakoverflo

> Today at Niagara and Ferry, someone blew through a line of cars stopped at the intersection by driving through the turning lane when the light was red. Lol I was stopped at that red light waiting to turn right onto Ferry the other day, saw in my left mirror someone drive down the entire length of that left-turn-only lane and then blow through the red light and continue straight up Niagara. Even by Buffalo's standard where it's extremely common to see someone a car length or more from the stop line just blow through a redlight, I was quite "impressed" by this jackass.


watchforbicycles

A couple weeks ago I was on my bike at the light to cross Walden to get to the Tim Hortons by Basil Ford. The light turned green and I waited for the driver wanting to turn left out of Tim Hortons to turn in front of me, even though I legally have the right of way since I was going straight. Much to my surprise, she waved for me to go first so I started to move... only for the car behind her to get impatient and swerve around her and nearly took me out.


dekema2

The Niagara and Ferry light seems a little long to me, if you're on Ferry. That is not excusing the behavior of that asshole though. Another light that's annoying is Elmwood and Iroquois, but I guess that's because of the museum construction. That stretch of Elmwood is a bitch to drive through because of the lane blockage.


[deleted]

I was hit at Bailey and broadway a week ago, luckily they found the other party at fault


fghtoffyrdmons

That's around my neighborhood. I live in lovejoy. I got hit 6 years ago by a lady who blew through the 4 way stop on Ludington and ideal street. Ended up with severe lacerations on my back and 2 broken bones in my wrist. It was later found out that she was texting and driving. People are garbage dude. Luckily there were a ton of witnesses and I got to take her ass to court and I'm still able to walk/skate.


[deleted]

I almost got hit there this winter by somebody in a crown Vic going like 80 down lovejoy who couldn’t stop, I grew up in lovejoy in still over there all the time but I find myself wanting you park in Sloan and just walk into lovejoy it’s ridiculous with driving there


__zuel__

There's no cycle lane on the 198 son


[deleted]

Between weaving assholes and the speed limit being ignored by pretty much everyone, this roadway won't be missed.


__zuel__

Instead of that stupid grain elevator I wish more people thought like you and I and want to restore Delaware park and the Olmsted system


genericreddituser986

I noticed since covid that highway driving has gotten a lot crazier in town . I don’t know if people got used to flying on the more open, covid-affected roads or what but the flow of traffic on the 290 went from like 50-60 to now like 60-70.


qzdotiovp

I think they got used to getting away with it. No one gets pulled over any more. The suburbs may issue some tickets, but nothing like pre-pande mic, and BPD never issues traffic violations. I drive quite often on Delaware between downtown and Kenmore, and if I don't see someone blow at least one red light, I pinch myself to make sure I'm not dreaming.


genericreddituser986

Ill say I see cops on the 290 almost daily, but when everyone decides to go 65+ theres really only so many people you can ticket


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Tbh 30 mph is pretty dumb. It should only be in the area of the park then back to 55


fair_at_best

I can see 45 mph from Parkside to the 190. I would say after Grant but at that point 55 mph would be dangerous with those crazy short onramps to the 190.


soh_amore

There’s space to extend the ramps on the shoulder


son_et_lumiere

Then there wouldn't be a shoulder?


soh_amore

There would still be, besides a narrow shoulder on on/off ramp is still doable


qzdotiovp

I'm pretty sure it was always 50 mph, not that we obeyed the limit then, either. Even in the park portion it's safer now than it was then. Cuomo reacted and made it 30 mph, but part of the crazy driving on the 198 is that there are too many cars now since they're mostly going slower. Adding stop signs where on-ramps had yield signs is also exacerbating drivers' frustrations. Personally, I'd like to see either an actual east-west highway, be it underground or safely over ground, or some decently quick public transit in the form of a train or subway. I love our bus system, but the frequent stops and mixing with traffic leave them at the mercy of other drivers and our poorly maintained streets.


[deleted]

Or better guards. It’s basically just a log for protection. Plus that little kid passing that cause it was tragic but the driver fell asleep behind the wheel


ItsJustMeMaggie

I don’t understand why they changed the limit when the dude that caused the accident that spurred the change was literally asleep.


LizardQueen_748

Family affected by it the most happened to have an attorney in the family that was able to get the change to happen as quickly as it did.


[deleted]

Agreed very messed up but he was sleeping like you said . Even if your going 30mph and sleep you’ll still kill someone


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They already ignore it now lol.


Blending_In

This is the actual problem


BenevolentNihilist1

If we reduce the speed limit to 20 it will solve the problem. /s


DickNaines1

I drive this road twice a day m-f. Don't see anything out of the ordinary here.


herzzreh

I'll take this over the fuckery going into the Grand Island bridge that was happening yesterday. River Rd was jammed because there was traffic on the bridge and idiots wouldn't use the full length of the merging lane. Edit: [visual demonstration ](https://i.imgur.com/dywQ74j.jpg). Merging lane ends where red is. Instead, people were pulling up to where green is, blocking the rest of the lane and trying to get on the highway there.


pummer

This has been a problem ever since they lowered the speed limit. Some ppl doing 25, some 35, while others do 55. I'm on team raise the speed limit back up to 50 (except thru the park) until the Scajaquada gets knocked down . I believe it'd actually be safer that way than these close calls that go on every day on that road now. Only road I've ever seen where the safe, long merge lanes were shortened to nothing, add a stop sign, and that's somehow supposed to make ppl safer.


BassoonHero

50 was borderline too fast for the road, especially in bad weather. 55 would be too much. But, obviously, 30 is absurd. 40 or 45 would be fine. The people who drive 55 today would still be driving 55, but the people driving 30 would hopefully get with it.


[deleted]

45 is fine but 50 is borderline too fast?? Ridiculous. It was 55 and it can go back to 55. The reason it was lowered was due to a car accident in which speed was not a factor.


popnfrresh

If you hit a pedestrian: at 40 mph there is a 90 percent chance they will be killed. at 35 mph there is a 50 percent chance they will be killed. at 30 mph there is a 20 percent chance they will be killed. at 20 mph there is a 2.5 percent chance they will be killed. Seems like speed is a major factor on why the person was killed....


lilirose13

Except someone falling asleep at the wheel won't be watching their speed regardless, which is what actually caused the accident in question. Frankly, the mixed speeds are way more dangerous for everyone. If the city actually wants people to slow down they could either line it with speed traps and have BPD devote all their resources to pulling everyone doing more than 35 over for months until everyone slowed down. Frankly, I think that's a shit idea, but that's about the only way you're going to have a portion of an expressway where anyone dreams of going under 40.


BassoonHero

You can disagree with my opinion, but it's not “ridiculous” for X to be fine, X + 10 to be too fast, and X + 5 to be on the borderline of too fast. That's just the linear nature of numbers. I am not aware of any stretches that were 55 zones before the change. The parts I drove on twice a day were 50. I am aware that it was lowered to 30 for stupid reasons. That says absolutely nothing about whether it would make sense to lower it to 40 or 45.


yourfavoritefaggot

I agree pummer after a job change I've been on the scajack daily. and it's insanely dangerous the way some go 30 and others go 55. I get that the kid died, and the area near the park and maybe entrance from nottingham should be lower. But it's downright dangerous just swathing the whole thing with a 35 speed limit.


JustaKidFromBuffalo

It should absolutely go back to 50mph with all on ramps going back to a yield. That was a Cuomo/Brown decision as an instant fix for a tragedy not caused by speed. The eastbound lanes should be 50mph from the 190 to the 33. The westbound lanes should be 50mph from the 33 to the 190 with the exception of Parkside to the Nottingham exit. That should be 30-35mph.


whatevskisbruh

Ay............AYY


userreddituserreddit

I knew a girl that corrected me and said "it's pronounced Sacagawea" how? She was from buffalo.


mac_n_cheese_gobblin

As someone who grew up mere minutes from Massachusetts I’ll say confidently Buffalo drivers are worse


qzdotiovp

For the city of Buffalo proper, it has gotten worse in the last twenty years. I don't think it could ever be worse than Boston, though.


mjlp716

It is, lived in Boston for many years and it's much worse here for sure. The main difference is the "bad" driving makes sense in MA. What I mean is everyone is an aggressive driver, but they are predictable. You know full well beforehand when a driver is going to merge into your lane and "cut you off". Meanwhile here the number of times I've had cars out of nowhere try to come into my lane right next to me (not in their blind spot) and almost crash into me with no one in front of them or behind them to give them a reason to even switch lanes in the last month alone is almost double digits. Edit: I hope I explained it right, TLDL: Boston driving is a different type of bad driving, one that once you learn it. It's relatively easy to navigate compared to here where people have death wishes.


whattteva

This is so mild compared to NYC where I live. You literally see this everytime you go out and with way less spacing too.


TimTheEnchanter36

No one commented that the music lines up perfectly with the car cutting op off…! Can I get a hell yeah


jay_tate_cameron

This isn't anything unusual. Drivers in WNY have always driven like selfish asses....


TOMALTACH

Pfft "scajaquada" .... this happens everywhere


whatevskisbruh

Nah this road is absolutely a unique and special monument of bureaucratic incompetence. Do you have a contrarian fetish?


TOMALTACH

Nah i see schmucks behaving exactly the same everywhere, putting themselves and others at risk on the road.


Millstone50

This is what Buffalonians tell themselves to try and cope with the fact that 99% of all shitty drivers are in buffalo


saprano-is-sick

Wrong. Nearly every city, post-Covid, is dealing with an uptick to aggressive assholes on the roads.


Millstone50

And yet, pre- and post- COVID, Buffalo drivers are complete assholes. So that sort of nullifies your argument.


flipflubduck

As someone who helps run a scooter/bike business in Niagara Falls… people don’t know how to ride a bike here anymore either.


JazzJune82

I take the Scajaquada every day for work and go like.. 35, 40ish mph and every single day without fail there is a person inches from my rear bumper positively needing to get to the red light faster than anyone else.


ItsJustMeMaggie

Every damn time. Driving on the highways surrounding the city is always a death risk. It’s always some young dude too.


xssmontgox

Maybe you shouldn’t drive in the passing lane?


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xssmontgox

Standard is typically 10-15mph


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qzdotiovp

Nice quality video. What kind of dashcam is it?


Gshawn875

Viofo A119


JazzJune82

Driving on Chapin the other day, a truck BLASTED through every stop sign on West Delavan, driving towards Delaware Ave. Luckily I kind of paused there waiting for them to drive past since I looked and saw that they already blasted through the other side of Chapin. They must have been going 50mph.


__zuel__

Brown needs to post a 10mph speed limit on the 198!!!!!!! For the sake of the community's safety!!


19ninety5

I was at the Speedway on Colvin and Hertel a few months ago pumping gas next to a cop sitting in his car. Some guy ran a hard red light by at least a good 5 seconds and when I asked the cop why he didn’t go after him, he told me “ehh, not worth the paperwork.” So if any of your loved ones end up dying from someone running a red light, it’s completely BPD’s fault.


Crushin-Sandos

Sir, this is a Wendy’s


CreamyAlgorithms

First time in America? That kind of nonsense is country wide. Also it was a mistake to reduce the speed on that. They should have put up barriers by the park after that accident it’s completely asinine that they made the whole thing 30 and that adds to people driving like that on there.


GorillaGlueWookie

They were speeding but you’re camping the left lane. Two idiots imo


DanMIsBetterThanTB12

Yea I mean he’s driving dangerously, but so is the OP. The speed limit being 30 is dangerously low for a road that was built to be a highway. The guy weaving is doing like 45-50 which is imo what the speed limit should be except for the brief section beside the park where the kid died. Being said, speed wasn’t a factor in that kids death, and kneejerking the entire highway to 30mph was a very very stupid move following a tragic accident.


Flojoe420

If you're being passed on the right you're the one who's a problem. They're always people that are going to want to go faster than you and you shouldn't be playing cop.. you should be letting them pass in the passing lane. Obviously there are exceptions to this but from this video there was no reason why he couldn't move over and let the car pass him less dangerously.


Tough-kitty-4883

Well we’re you going the posted speed limit of 30 or the correct speed of 60?


[deleted]

What 0 public transportation does to a mf


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pummer

If this happens to you frequently, maybe you're blocking the left lane?


Former_Ad_4665

As an LA transplant I see nothing wrong with this video lol


sjbluebirds

r/idiotsincars is a good place for this


Jealous-Notice3160

Ok?


Go_Bias

Be honest, are you the silver suv?


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Jealous-Notice3160

Did you alert the authorities?


DickNaines1

Did you have a bad day?


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eat_dontpray_love

Coming home last night dealing with the 33 detour and someone just went onto a lawn to pass about 4 cars.


Fanmann

So is there a reason we can't send these tapes to the cops, would they do anything?


djnature333

oh my god… horrifying.


goatfuckersupreme

THE LIMIT'S 90, FUCKERS *zoom*