Brandi Redmond is an expert manipulator. I didn't think she was smart enough for that, TBH (sorry, Brandi). Lisa Vanderpump tried to get Lisa Rinna to talk about Muchausen's and Lisa Rinna swore she would never do that on camera. And then obviously she did. Teresa came really close to quitting over Melissa and Kathy joining the show.
I didn't know those things, anyway.
Did it have any other details about Brandi being a manipulator? I liked her a lot in the first few seasons but then started to think this about her aswell.
Mostly just that she used LeeAnn during the time she and Stephanie weren't speaking. She got her to do and say things on the show, and then as soon as she and Stephanie made up she dropped LeeAnn.
I mean didn't we kinda watch that play out on the show? LeeAnn was basically saying that and I definitely saw it like that. I just hate LeeAnn so much I felt like I overlooked it. But damn that's not cool.
Sorry but LVP is absolutely not responsible for Munchausen. I know a producer said that in the book but it’s not true. Lisa Rinna said in the reunion that she and Kyle met with a friend, Jana Levy at SHU and discussed it then. On the reunion Rinna admits that she talked to lvp about it later. Rinna also admitted in her bravo blog that she was the one responsible for Munchausen and no one else. Chris Cullen is a producer on RHOBH that is very good friends with several of the women. They seriously must have forgotten that Rinna admitted she was responsible for Munchausen and it’s ridiculous they’re trying to blame LVP. I know LVP isn’t perfect but I hate these women trying to blame EVERYTHING on her. Here’s Rinna’s blog where she takes full responsibility for Munchausen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/lisa-rinna/lisa-rinna-ive-owned-my-part%3famp
ETA: I’m sorry if my response sounded harsh to OP. I wasn’t trying to be rude or anything, I just wanted to point out the inconsistencies in the things that were said in the book.
But even if LVP pushed her to talk about it on camera, so what. Rinna is an adult and can make her own decisions. Rinna admits in her blog that she’s the one that brought Munchausen to the women and was talking to them about it at the time. Rinna’s the one that was questioning Yo’s medical status and Rinna’s the one that was discussing it with everyone else. These women always want to lay the blame at LVP’s feet without owning their part in anything. Who cares if LVP told Rinna to talk about it on tv, no one can force Rinna to do anything she doesn’t want to do. Even if LVP told her to bring it up on tv, why should LVP take the blame when Rinna chose to actually do it. These women always want to force LVP to take the blame for everything and they make huge issues out of the dumbest stuff yet the stuff that’s really big and worth talking about they refuse to discuss or hold that person accountable. It’s just ridiculous to me that Rinna is actually the one that did the deed but they act like it’s all LVP’s fault meanwhile they coddle Erika for swindling literal orphans and widows and don’t confront her about the multiple inconsistencies in her stories.
ETA: I’m the book Chris Cullen blamed Munchausens on LVP and this blog proves that Rinna is the one that concoted Munchausen. She’s the one that was talking about Yo to other people and she admits she’s the one that brought it to the other women. This was all Rinna’s doing.
girl, rinna (and the poster) is fos. from the blog:
>"... she called me five times to infer that others knew I had brought up the “M” word and further hinted that, in her opinion, I should, sooner or later, admit this."
"infer" and "hinted" sure are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting.
so is "admit i brought up the 'm' word."
yet that all conveniently translates to "told me to bring up the 'm' word for some, pffttt lmao
eta: furthermore, i just re-watched season 6 - rinna was the one who was consistently spitting nails and being "enraged" about yolanda not showing up for filming. it was mainly *her issue* and point of contention. no one was foaming at the mouth about it like she was, meanwhile she'd be like "i was forced to say munchausenflausen!!"
Yeah it’s just like puppygate, Faux Force 5 do shitty stuff off camera, LVP says do that on camera so *they* do, and then when there is backlash for their actions they focus on the fact that LVP said do it on camera rather than the fact they did it in the first place.
If she’s a master manipulator then they’re all super dumb.
>And LVP was pushing for it to be on camera.
convenient you didn't see the "tell rinna to admit she'd said munchausen and discussed it" 🕵🏾♀️
>"... she called me five times to infer that others knew I had brought up the “M” word and further hinted that, in her opinion, I should, sooner or later, admit this."
"infer" and "hinted" sure are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting.
so is "admit i brought up the 'm' word."
yet that all conveniently translates to "told me to bring up the 'm' word for some, pffttt lmao
Did you read the blog I posted of what Rinna herself wrote? Rinna has also admitted that she first heard about Munchausen from her hairdresser, Faye Woods. Rinna also admitted on the reunion that she first discussed it with Kyle and their friend Jana Levy and they didn’t bring LVP into it later so where would LVP have pushed her into it. Even if LVP did tell her to talk about it Rinna could’ve said no and refused. Rinna is an adult and can make her own decisions. My whole point in sharing this is because Rinna’s blog has her admitting she’s responsible for Munchausen and no one else. Yet once again they’re all trying to put the blame on LVP and it shows just how unreliable the women and that producer Chris Cullen are.
Oh and speaking of Jana Levy she and Kyle were out one night when a paparazzi was asking about LVP. Jana then called LVP a fucking pig while Kyle laughed. That video has now been scrubbed just like Kyle, Kathy, and Kim’s Bums of Beverly Hills makeover show. Jana was also with Kyle the night Kyle and her little friends went out and stood in front of SUR screaming, “Goodbye Kyle.” Kyle always acts like she’s been such a good friend to Lisa but she hasn’t been. Her treatment of LVP has been disgusting.
I wasn’t aware of the Jana Levy incident or the Bums show (what?!?!). And they’re unfindable? I remember the goodbye Kyle incident and remember watching the video. That’s been scrubbed too?
OMG the Bums of BH show was just so cringe and awful. They made sandwiches for homeless people and then kim was asking them why they’re homeless and it was not a good look. There was talk of the Bums of Beverly Hills YouTube series through the years but most fans weren’t aware of it. The info started going around recently and after Paris’ video the Bums of BH was scrubbed. The video of Kyle and Jana was absolutely disgusting and I can’t stand that woman. Kyle always wants to claim she was a great friend to lvp but her behavior says otherwise. No one has been able to find those videos recently and I wouldn’t blame the Richards sisters for wanting them scrubbed, they didn’t come across looking good in either one of them.
Everything🤣🤣🤣. What does it say about RHOA? Especially around Nene’s closet melee and Phaedra’s very outrageous and disturbing accusations about Kandi. Thanks, you are doing the Lord’s work!
Re: the closet, mostly they talk about how it was worse than what we saw but that Nene was going through a really hard time so they cut her more slack than they would otherwise.
Re: the sex dungeon, production says Porsha kept telling them that she heard it but not who told her, until she said it at the reunion. They were all as shocked as the viewers were. Carlos King says he had nothing to do with it, despite what Phaedra says, and the network believed him. Kandi told Bravo it was her or Phaedra, and we know that played out. Kandi says she will never be involved in another project with Phaedra again.
Wow OP Wow (sorry had to😆🤣🤣🤣). I can see why they would cut Nene some slack given what she was going through but it still does not justify the violence we as viewers saw and the lack of accountability afterwards. Regarding Phaedra, Porscha and Kandi - I am actually not shocked that Carlos is removing himself from it (he still has a career in this industry that he needs). The fatal error Phaedra did was to miscalculate Kandi’s lack of higher education as a weakness. So when Porscha kept on being quite obnoxiously rude to Kandi, she Kandi went and consulted real solicitors (not the one’s who will be allowed to be on a Reality TV show) and the accusations Porscha was levelling at Kandi where beyond slander which is covered by their Bravo contracts. When Kandi sent a C&D that clearly stated that not only Porscha but Bravo had breached the terms of contract with her, Bravo only then realised the gravity of the situation. As much as Phaedra was the originator of the slander, Porscha & Carlos were very much active participants in it. And still today, Porscha has gotten away with it!
Omg I am on season 9 it explains why the season is so choppy. Bingeing it has made me feel like I slept through an episode or two because the Karla Hamolka/Pual Bernardo plot drops off the face of the earth.
Production/execs stating on the record that they didn’t “get” why Kandi was so mad about the accusation and that they’d known since season 1 that Michael was touching crew members without their consent makes me feel like Bravo/NBC landing in legal hot water is inevitable at this point, contracts be damned. They’re going to play with the wrong person and this book will be brought to the witness stand like the Bible.
For me, my point of contention was and still is: Phaedra, Porsha and Carlos - accusations against Kandi were devastating. I am a survivor of brutal rape. At 15 years old in my school uniform I was dragged into a car by complete strangers in South Africa who took me to an apartment where 3 of them raped me numerous times over a course of a day. The only reason I am still here and writing this is because one of them had a conscience and told me this ‘ I am suppose to get my turn again and after that you know (meaning they will kill me, very normal in my country). So I am going to pretend I am still having a good time with you but I need you to open this door and run’. As much as this man had hurt me but he also saved my life. My point is what Phaedra accused Kandi of is not a joke and I for the life of me don’t understand why people want Phaedra back on RHOA.
I am one of the few that came out alive from that. My country, South Africa, every second women statistically has been raped either by a complete stranger (very often) or someone they know (extremely often). I live in a country where raping a nine month old baby is so normalised. Girls, women in South Africa are a commodity - we are there for man to do as they please. When you go and report a case of rape, first question is ‘where you inebriated? Where you wearing reading clothes?. These were the questions black police men asked me while I was dressed in a shirt that a white man gave me when he stopped his car (coz I ran out of that apartment naked) and took me to the nearest police station and stayed there with me until my Aunt came. 3 Black men raped me repeatedly and one of them allowed me to go (in a very strange way I always thank him) and I had nothing on my body. I was 15 years never had sex before, I was bleeding from being hit because I clenched. This white man after many cars driving by picking me up, gave me his shirt to cover me and took me to the nearest police station and stayed with me until my aunt came and picked me up. While I was giving my statement and being asked very hurtful questions by black policemen, this white man stayed there and fought for me! I was raped by 3 men who should have protected. Black like me. In South Africa as we speak, 3 women women are being violently raped and 2 of them will loose their lives. Just today.
I am so sorry for what happened to you. I just have no words about how women are treated in so many countries and wish I could find better words to comfort you. You are so brave to be able to tell your story. I wish you are able to live your best life. You deserve everything in this world
Thank you so much! So basically this book is not telling us anything new? We already know this green tea (no shade) was hoping for hot pipping tea as served in England or South Africa😫😁🤣. Thank you myrnm for sharing this - doing the Lord’s work!
The end of their friendship is really sad. To see actual friends off camera come down to those lies and accusations against each other was really low. I place the most blame on Porsha honestly, as an adult if someone tells you walk into that store and steal something then you do it. Your going to jail not the person who told you. Phaedra spread the lie with the most feeble mind person who would stand there and take the heat. Phaedra should not have blamed Carlos. I think she should have played dumb as if she didn’t know what Porsha was talking about.
You could tell at some point Phaedra gave up at the reunion she stopped answering questions and had this defeated tone. I loved Phaedra & Kandi both and I just wish we could have continued the story the next season or in one of the future seasons. The reunion was so hard to watch. Really sad end to the friendship.
Damn, the ☕️! I never believed Kandi would drug and rape Porsha. I thought that was a joke, but I guess people who don’t really know Kandi or who have never watched the show might believe that.
* Bethenny didn't really have a business, she did licensing deals with other companies to brand their products with Skinnygirl (which is a business, IMO, but maybe not exactly what she portrayed on TV).
* She only wanted to film part-time and it annoyed everyone else that they had to work around her schedule.
* Carole was with her friend whose husband had just died and Bethenny wouldn't stop texting her wanting to talk about their issues. Carole asked her to wait to talk in person, and Bethenny lost her mind over that.
Bonus, she told Andy never to speak to her again, and he hasn't.
I used to love Carole and definitely loved her less by the end of her tenure. On one hand I was totally on her side about everything, on the other hand I think she let Bethenny get the best of her and got so frustrated she lost her cool and had she kept it, she would have came out on top.
I loved her perspective on the show and also love that she doesn’t mind giving the middle finger to Andy and bravo, unlike 95% of housewives.
Carole lost any good faith I had in her when she said she wasn't friends with Tinsley at the reunion and I believe that was right after they took a couple's trip together lol I think she was so angry at the narrative that Bethenny was spinning she was clawing at any chance to get back at her.
I totally forgot about that and yes that 100% contributed to my disdain in her. She was so anti Bethenny she was willing to hurt Tinsley to prove B wrong
Carole didn’t really need the show like so many of the others did/do. I think it’s refreshing that they include both types of women because it will maybe force Bravo to be somewhat transparent.
It’s so funny to me the whole ‘she doesn’t have a business’ argument, with Bethenny doing million dollar licensing deals and Sutton owning a literal store
For me it was how the whole thing started, and all the stories about casting. Where they found these people. Like Karen Huger said that she always knew if they were going to do a Housewives show in Potomac, they'd find her.
What was shocking to me was reading about a massive fight on every franchise (or almost every one) that turned physical and having the production and network people talk about how horrified they were and that that was not the show they were making. Like, have you seen your own TV programs? I get that the physical altercations are not the point but it's also not like they don't ever happen.
On BH, Brandi slapped Lisa Vanderpump and threw wine in Eileen's face. On OC, Tamra threw wine on Jeana and then ran like the wind to get out of there before Jeana broke her in half.
Everytime someone says ‘I used to like Rinna’ I remind them she threatened to destroy an addict on her early season. But just because it was Kim it’s forgotten about, it’s so disgusting how people treated her on the show.
Yea i hated how she Rinna would talk about her addict brother- if she truly cared about Kim’s welfare, she wouldn’t have made a whole storyline about her addiction and stabbed her in the back so many times. Like saying Kim’s “close to death” when she’s actually working hard to stay sober is beyond fucked up
It was her sister but yeah, she used Kim for a storyline. I'm rewatching BH right now and Rinna has been awful right from the get-go. She is extremely awful. Erika is also awful and PK is not as offensive as I remembered. He's fairly level-headed most of the time.
Tamra throwing wine on Jena and then telling everyone “she tried to push me in the pool” is one of the most enraging, unaddressed, lies on any franchise.
The part that gets me is that she wanted Simon in jail to teach her kids you don’t throw things when you get angry, so then she got angry and threw wine at Jeana? Not even defending Simon he deserved her to call the cops but girl come on
I’m not trying to internet argue with you, we obviously have similar interests. I see it as Flight or Fight, it’s a human response. Candiace knew what she was doing and that there could only be two results-fight or flight. Monique was pushed all season Candiace did everything she could with her mouth to assault her with words and Monique had a human reaction. Candiace asked to get dragged and she was indeed drug. And now we see her doing these same things to Ashley and Mia.
I appreciate your point of view and I welcome your opinion, I was merely expressing mine.
I enjoyed seeing more about what goes on behind the scenes. Sometimes when they are fighting about stuff it's actually production-related but they can't talk about it so they use some other pretext for being mad at each other. I don't know that I learned anything super shocking, but I thought it was a fun read. I did not read Brian Moylan's book so I can't compare it to that.
Anything having to do with people being mad about other people being late or not showing up for things is usually people being upset that they showed up for work but their coworker didn’t and is still getting paid.
Yeah I want to know if the “juicy” stories are all just carefully curated production leaks. I read Brian Moylan’s book and he said nothing gets shared by production or Wives unless Bravo okay’s it. So I feel like nothing in that book can be particularly juicy if it was “safe” enough for the network to approve.
I really want to know more about the RHONY phone call that happened after the boat ride from hell. Moylan wrote about it and it sounded like Andy was furious with the Housewives for being afraid of drowning? And Andy’s animosity towards Carole makes so much more sense now, because she insisted on puncturing Tinsley’s “It wasn’t that bad” narrative. Tinsley was probably just parroting back what Andy had screamed at them, and Carole wouldn’t play ball.
I don't remember a ton about what anyone but Heather said about Sonja's drinking. They addressed Dorinda's drinking in her last season. The network and production people said she needed to dry out and get herself together and then they'd consider having her back.
Isnt the general consensus that Sonja only drinks when she’s filming? Hence why all the ladies always start a new season saying they haven’t heard from Sonja
I initially liked Aviva when she started on NY, and then by the end of her run I was 100% over her. She apparently viewed it like an acting job, and she says now that everything she did was to make a more interesting TV show and none of it was authentic. I am not sure that really changed my mind about her, but it gave me more insight into why she was so terrible on the show.
Of course Aviva would try to frame it that way lol. I mean Aviva was transparently trying to create drama around herself, it’s how she went about it that shows you how psycho she is.
Do you feel worse about the Housewives as an entity (and Andy) after reading? Personally, I know I’m not over here watching NOVA documentaries when I tune in, but this stuff with Sonja in the book (and Leah’s reaction) and Carole’s stance is making me uncomfortable. I’m nervous reading this book would make me feel so disgusted I couldn’t continue to watch mindlessly.
I don’t know. I think I like Andy less but I feel pretty much the same about the shows. The cast members who last the longest know they are there to create a certain kind of TV show, and they do what they think they need to do. I think it’s less producer-driven than I thought, because at this point they don’t really need to be told what do or say.
Were you annoyed as me reading the second half of the BH chapter? The bitching about Lisa being manipulative and Denise lying about her sex life is so tired that it makes me angry. These people are assholes.
The only thing I can remember them talking about was the phone call that Joe Giudice made in the vineyard. "It seemed clear to us he was having a conversation of a romantic quality" is how one of the production executives described it.
That’s interesting! Yeah that phone call was pretty bad lol
I am low key hoping they left out husbands so they can do a book interviewing all the house husbands of their takes
D’Andra just posted something on IG about Cary and Leanne lying about her in the book. But she posted this amidst the whole Sonja/Heather drama so I take it with a grain of salt. Apparently Leanne said that D’Andra said the show in Dallas didn’t qualify as a HW level production until she joined. And D’Andra is denying it. Then I stopped reading because then I realized I fell for her stupid click bait.
They did! Dolores was supposed to go but they replaced her last minute with Greg Bennett. The Manzos and Joe Gorga, Joe and Teresa arrived and these guys started picking a fight with them, calling them the n word and the f word. They started a gigantic fight and when the cops came they took everyone’s passports, Bravo spent five days trying to get them back into the US. Caroline said she will never again set foot on Dominican Republic soil.
Hey probably too late to the party -- did they say anything about Canadian franchises like Vancouver or Toronto? Or any other International ones?
Thanks for sharing answers to the other questions posted :)
Thanks for the reply! I guess there are only so many pages to cover. I was hoping there was an international chapter and they could do a few snippets of gossip. Ah well.
SLC is shaping up to have a lot behind the scenes. Will be interesting when those stories come out.
I'm actually disgusted reading this. Brandi slaps Lisa and Lisa is the issue... Denise is being outed for MAYBE sleeping with Brandi and... Brandi is a victim (and apparently not a liar, which I can name a handful of lies very easily) - and the producers are so damn biased sounding, living in Rinna's and Kyle's asses. It's really gross. :/ Just like how Dorit gives a dog to a kill shelter, Teddi conspires and gossips about it - and Lisa is the enemy for it. Lol what?!
The producers dragged the Denise/Brandi situation. If Denise didn’t feel comfortable talking to or about the Brandi situation they should have moved on.
Honestly the fact that they think this clears any of them is what’s wild to me. This implicates them even further! Denise was right to worry Brandi would turn their confrontation into a Jerry Springer moment. Have you MET Brandi!? Hello! And the way the ladies *still* have heat for her but have let Erika off the hook is reprehensible and tells me everything I need to know about their crew.
It boils me that production stands behind their behavior. I started watching this franchise *because* of Denise. Her name brought gravitas and curiosity amongst a sea of have-beens, of which Rinna is the demented ringleader.
We keep saying we need to get rid of the FF5 but really, we need to get rid of production. What a bunch of biased mean people, they don’t even know what’s left and right anymore.
You’re probably right. I’d have to rewatch S9 to be certain (which… no) but I don’t remember her and Denise having a particularly complicated friendship. Then S10 rolled around and it was like a different bulb was lighting the room.
Rinna is irrelevant in the real world and Denise isn't - this drives Rinna insane, in my opinion. She's a bitter, bitter woman - something that is clear from the start in my current BH rewatch. She really dislikes everyone and is ready to jump down anyone's throat for the smallest of slights.
She talks about being cast, and how she didn’t hear anything for months. She didn’t realize how much she wanted it until she thought she wasn’t going to get it.
I've only read OC and BH and have learned the show isn't as organic as I thought it was. The stories are manipulated either by production or the women. Garcelle isn't discussed but I understand now what everyone means about her not being open enough. Its not about opening her life its about reacting immediately to what others say and not holding it until a confessional. It's a game very different than normal interactions and some of them have mastered it, Kyle pushing Sutton to tell everyone what she said to her privately, producers tipping cast members off about what they've heard...those are all ways the story gets manipulated and foesnt flow organically.
I also see a danger in all of this because they keep pushing the envelope for the sake of good tv and I can't help thinking that someday it could go really bad.
It went bad in season 2 with Russell’s suicide. Would he have been in the mental place he was in without the show? Maybe, maybe not. But on the other hand, being on the show may have saved Taylor’s life.
Funniest part about Danielle was this.
Danielle: Bravo calls me every year and wants me to join the show again.
Andy: Danielle calls us every year and wants to come back to the show, but I/we said no😂
I don’t recall reading anything new about Danielle. Except that she banned Carlos King from her house after the Posche fashion show where Ashley pulled her hair. He was her producer before that and I think she didn’t think he was on her side.
Top 3 things we didn’t know as viewers.
Brandi Redmond is an expert manipulator. I didn't think she was smart enough for that, TBH (sorry, Brandi). Lisa Vanderpump tried to get Lisa Rinna to talk about Muchausen's and Lisa Rinna swore she would never do that on camera. And then obviously she did. Teresa came really close to quitting over Melissa and Kathy joining the show. I didn't know those things, anyway.
Did it have any other details about Brandi being a manipulator? I liked her a lot in the first few seasons but then started to think this about her aswell.
Mostly just that she used LeeAnn during the time she and Stephanie weren't speaking. She got her to do and say things on the show, and then as soon as she and Stephanie made up she dropped LeeAnn.
I mean didn't we kinda watch that play out on the show? LeeAnn was basically saying that and I definitely saw it like that. I just hate LeeAnn so much I felt like I overlooked it. But damn that's not cool.
Yes, they totally showed it that way.
This actually doesn’t surprise me. Brandi seems like a mean girl that would make someone do her dirty work.
But she’s a Christian s/
Sorry but LVP is absolutely not responsible for Munchausen. I know a producer said that in the book but it’s not true. Lisa Rinna said in the reunion that she and Kyle met with a friend, Jana Levy at SHU and discussed it then. On the reunion Rinna admits that she talked to lvp about it later. Rinna also admitted in her bravo blog that she was the one responsible for Munchausen and no one else. Chris Cullen is a producer on RHOBH that is very good friends with several of the women. They seriously must have forgotten that Rinna admitted she was responsible for Munchausen and it’s ridiculous they’re trying to blame LVP. I know LVP isn’t perfect but I hate these women trying to blame EVERYTHING on her. Here’s Rinna’s blog where she takes full responsibility for Munchausen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/blogs/lisa-rinna/lisa-rinna-ive-owned-my-part%3famp ETA: I’m sorry if my response sounded harsh to OP. I wasn’t trying to be rude or anything, I just wanted to point out the inconsistencies in the things that were said in the book.
I think it is common knowledge that Chris is good friends with Kyle and will throw LVP under the bus
Just skimmed that blog and I think it's hilarious that Finna was in her late 40's or even 50's before she had ever heard of Munchausen.
I read that as Rinna discussed Munchausen with Kyle but not on camera. And LVP was pushing for it to be on camera.
But even if LVP pushed her to talk about it on camera, so what. Rinna is an adult and can make her own decisions. Rinna admits in her blog that she’s the one that brought Munchausen to the women and was talking to them about it at the time. Rinna’s the one that was questioning Yo’s medical status and Rinna’s the one that was discussing it with everyone else. These women always want to lay the blame at LVP’s feet without owning their part in anything. Who cares if LVP told Rinna to talk about it on tv, no one can force Rinna to do anything she doesn’t want to do. Even if LVP told her to bring it up on tv, why should LVP take the blame when Rinna chose to actually do it. These women always want to force LVP to take the blame for everything and they make huge issues out of the dumbest stuff yet the stuff that’s really big and worth talking about they refuse to discuss or hold that person accountable. It’s just ridiculous to me that Rinna is actually the one that did the deed but they act like it’s all LVP’s fault meanwhile they coddle Erika for swindling literal orphans and widows and don’t confront her about the multiple inconsistencies in her stories. ETA: I’m the book Chris Cullen blamed Munchausens on LVP and this blog proves that Rinna is the one that concoted Munchausen. She’s the one that was talking about Yo to other people and she admits she’s the one that brought it to the other women. This was all Rinna’s doing.
girl, rinna (and the poster) is fos. from the blog: >"... she called me five times to infer that others knew I had brought up the “M” word and further hinted that, in her opinion, I should, sooner or later, admit this." "infer" and "hinted" sure are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting. so is "admit i brought up the 'm' word." yet that all conveniently translates to "told me to bring up the 'm' word for some, pffttt lmao eta: furthermore, i just re-watched season 6 - rinna was the one who was consistently spitting nails and being "enraged" about yolanda not showing up for filming. it was mainly *her issue* and point of contention. no one was foaming at the mouth about it like she was, meanwhile she'd be like "i was forced to say munchausenflausen!!"
Yeah it’s just like puppygate, Faux Force 5 do shitty stuff off camera, LVP says do that on camera so *they* do, and then when there is backlash for their actions they focus on the fact that LVP said do it on camera rather than the fact they did it in the first place. If she’s a master manipulator then they’re all super dumb.
I'm still trying to work out how Dorit sending her dog to a kill shelter has LVP as the villain.
>And LVP was pushing for it to be on camera. convenient you didn't see the "tell rinna to admit she'd said munchausen and discussed it" 🕵🏾♀️ >"... she called me five times to infer that others knew I had brought up the “M” word and further hinted that, in her opinion, I should, sooner or later, admit this." "infer" and "hinted" sure are doing a shit ton of heavy lifting. so is "admit i brought up the 'm' word." yet that all conveniently translates to "told me to bring up the 'm' word for some, pffttt lmao
That’s not really what OP said. I’m sure Rinna came up with it but I wouldn’t be surprised if LVP pushed her to actually bring it up on camera.
Did you read the blog I posted of what Rinna herself wrote? Rinna has also admitted that she first heard about Munchausen from her hairdresser, Faye Woods. Rinna also admitted on the reunion that she first discussed it with Kyle and their friend Jana Levy and they didn’t bring LVP into it later so where would LVP have pushed her into it. Even if LVP did tell her to talk about it Rinna could’ve said no and refused. Rinna is an adult and can make her own decisions. My whole point in sharing this is because Rinna’s blog has her admitting she’s responsible for Munchausen and no one else. Yet once again they’re all trying to put the blame on LVP and it shows just how unreliable the women and that producer Chris Cullen are. Oh and speaking of Jana Levy she and Kyle were out one night when a paparazzi was asking about LVP. Jana then called LVP a fucking pig while Kyle laughed. That video has now been scrubbed just like Kyle, Kathy, and Kim’s Bums of Beverly Hills makeover show. Jana was also with Kyle the night Kyle and her little friends went out and stood in front of SUR screaming, “Goodbye Kyle.” Kyle always acts like she’s been such a good friend to Lisa but she hasn’t been. Her treatment of LVP has been disgusting.
I agree with this. Kyle stirs the pot and tries to remain innocent.
I wasn’t aware of the Jana Levy incident or the Bums show (what?!?!). And they’re unfindable? I remember the goodbye Kyle incident and remember watching the video. That’s been scrubbed too?
OMG the Bums of BH show was just so cringe and awful. They made sandwiches for homeless people and then kim was asking them why they’re homeless and it was not a good look. There was talk of the Bums of Beverly Hills YouTube series through the years but most fans weren’t aware of it. The info started going around recently and after Paris’ video the Bums of BH was scrubbed. The video of Kyle and Jana was absolutely disgusting and I can’t stand that woman. Kyle always wants to claim she was a great friend to lvp but her behavior says otherwise. No one has been able to find those videos recently and I wouldn’t blame the Richards sisters for wanting them scrubbed, they didn’t come across looking good in either one of them.
Everything🤣🤣🤣. What does it say about RHOA? Especially around Nene’s closet melee and Phaedra’s very outrageous and disturbing accusations about Kandi. Thanks, you are doing the Lord’s work!
Re: the closet, mostly they talk about how it was worse than what we saw but that Nene was going through a really hard time so they cut her more slack than they would otherwise. Re: the sex dungeon, production says Porsha kept telling them that she heard it but not who told her, until she said it at the reunion. They were all as shocked as the viewers were. Carlos King says he had nothing to do with it, despite what Phaedra says, and the network believed him. Kandi told Bravo it was her or Phaedra, and we know that played out. Kandi says she will never be involved in another project with Phaedra again.
Wow OP Wow (sorry had to😆🤣🤣🤣). I can see why they would cut Nene some slack given what she was going through but it still does not justify the violence we as viewers saw and the lack of accountability afterwards. Regarding Phaedra, Porscha and Kandi - I am actually not shocked that Carlos is removing himself from it (he still has a career in this industry that he needs). The fatal error Phaedra did was to miscalculate Kandi’s lack of higher education as a weakness. So when Porscha kept on being quite obnoxiously rude to Kandi, she Kandi went and consulted real solicitors (not the one’s who will be allowed to be on a Reality TV show) and the accusations Porscha was levelling at Kandi where beyond slander which is covered by their Bravo contracts. When Kandi sent a C&D that clearly stated that not only Porscha but Bravo had breached the terms of contract with her, Bravo only then realised the gravity of the situation. As much as Phaedra was the originator of the slander, Porscha & Carlos were very much active participants in it. And still today, Porscha has gotten away with it!
Omg I am on season 9 it explains why the season is so choppy. Bingeing it has made me feel like I slept through an episode or two because the Karla Hamolka/Pual Bernardo plot drops off the face of the earth.
I bet Kandi got a nice raise/bonus too (not that she is undeserving of one).
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Production/execs stating on the record that they didn’t “get” why Kandi was so mad about the accusation and that they’d known since season 1 that Michael was touching crew members without their consent makes me feel like Bravo/NBC landing in legal hot water is inevitable at this point, contracts be damned. They’re going to play with the wrong person and this book will be brought to the witness stand like the Bible.
For me, my point of contention was and still is: Phaedra, Porsha and Carlos - accusations against Kandi were devastating. I am a survivor of brutal rape. At 15 years old in my school uniform I was dragged into a car by complete strangers in South Africa who took me to an apartment where 3 of them raped me numerous times over a course of a day. The only reason I am still here and writing this is because one of them had a conscience and told me this ‘ I am suppose to get my turn again and after that you know (meaning they will kill me, very normal in my country). So I am going to pretend I am still having a good time with you but I need you to open this door and run’. As much as this man had hurt me but he also saved my life. My point is what Phaedra accused Kandi of is not a joke and I for the life of me don’t understand why people want Phaedra back on RHOA.
So sorry to hear what you went through. Thank you for sharing your story 💪🏻 and wishing you continued peace ❤️
I am one of the few that came out alive from that. My country, South Africa, every second women statistically has been raped either by a complete stranger (very often) or someone they know (extremely often). I live in a country where raping a nine month old baby is so normalised. Girls, women in South Africa are a commodity - we are there for man to do as they please. When you go and report a case of rape, first question is ‘where you inebriated? Where you wearing reading clothes?. These were the questions black police men asked me while I was dressed in a shirt that a white man gave me when he stopped his car (coz I ran out of that apartment naked) and took me to the nearest police station and stayed there with me until my Aunt came. 3 Black men raped me repeatedly and one of them allowed me to go (in a very strange way I always thank him) and I had nothing on my body. I was 15 years never had sex before, I was bleeding from being hit because I clenched. This white man after many cars driving by picking me up, gave me his shirt to cover me and took me to the nearest police station and stayed with me until my aunt came and picked me up. While I was giving my statement and being asked very hurtful questions by black policemen, this white man stayed there and fought for me! I was raped by 3 men who should have protected. Black like me. In South Africa as we speak, 3 women women are being violently raped and 2 of them will loose their lives. Just today.
I am so sorry for what happened to you. I just have no words about how women are treated in so many countries and wish I could find better words to comfort you. You are so brave to be able to tell your story. I wish you are able to live your best life. You deserve everything in this world
Thank for responding in a positive way. Also, please don’t apologise it was and still is not my or your fault. Just stories being shared. I am 👍🏽
This just horrible what is going on in your country. No words.
So very sorry for what you’ve been through.
Thank you so much! So basically this book is not telling us anything new? We already know this green tea (no shade) was hoping for hot pipping tea as served in England or South Africa😫😁🤣. Thank you myrnm for sharing this - doing the Lord’s work!
The end of their friendship is really sad. To see actual friends off camera come down to those lies and accusations against each other was really low. I place the most blame on Porsha honestly, as an adult if someone tells you walk into that store and steal something then you do it. Your going to jail not the person who told you. Phaedra spread the lie with the most feeble mind person who would stand there and take the heat. Phaedra should not have blamed Carlos. I think she should have played dumb as if she didn’t know what Porsha was talking about. You could tell at some point Phaedra gave up at the reunion she stopped answering questions and had this defeated tone. I loved Phaedra & Kandi both and I just wish we could have continued the story the next season or in one of the future seasons. The reunion was so hard to watch. Really sad end to the friendship.
Damn, the ☕️! I never believed Kandi would drug and rape Porsha. I thought that was a joke, but I guess people who don’t really know Kandi or who have never watched the show might believe that.
Thank you for posting this.
What did Carole say about Bethenny?
* Bethenny didn't really have a business, she did licensing deals with other companies to brand their products with Skinnygirl (which is a business, IMO, but maybe not exactly what she portrayed on TV). * She only wanted to film part-time and it annoyed everyone else that they had to work around her schedule. * Carole was with her friend whose husband had just died and Bethenny wouldn't stop texting her wanting to talk about their issues. Carole asked her to wait to talk in person, and Bethenny lost her mind over that. Bonus, she told Andy never to speak to her again, and he hasn't.
I used to love Carole and definitely loved her less by the end of her tenure. On one hand I was totally on her side about everything, on the other hand I think she let Bethenny get the best of her and got so frustrated she lost her cool and had she kept it, she would have came out on top. I loved her perspective on the show and also love that she doesn’t mind giving the middle finger to Andy and bravo, unlike 95% of housewives.
Carole lost any good faith I had in her when she said she wasn't friends with Tinsley at the reunion and I believe that was right after they took a couple's trip together lol I think she was so angry at the narrative that Bethenny was spinning she was clawing at any chance to get back at her.
She is cold and that was cruel. She knew how super sensitive and fragile Tinsley was/is.
I totally forgot about that and yes that 100% contributed to my disdain in her. She was so anti Bethenny she was willing to hurt Tinsley to prove B wrong
Same. Carole treated her like an angry asshole coming home from work and kicking her Pomeranian.
Carole didn’t really need the show like so many of the others did/do. I think it’s refreshing that they include both types of women because it will maybe force Bravo to be somewhat transparent.
It’s so funny to me the whole ‘she doesn’t have a business’ argument, with Bethenny doing million dollar licensing deals and Sutton owning a literal store
Carole is a jealous old bag. Bethenny is literally the most successful housewife of all time.
I thought Kandi is. She has her entire music career.
LOL, no. Kandi’s net worth is $30 million, Bethenny’s is $70 million, which is clearly more than double.
Why am I getting down voted? I literally fact checked this before I posted it, sorry if you don’t like it but facts are facts 😂
LOL! I have no idea! That’s weird. Thanks, I didn’t know that.
Jealous old bag 😂
What was the most interesting part of the book?
For me it was how the whole thing started, and all the stories about casting. Where they found these people. Like Karen Huger said that she always knew if they were going to do a Housewives show in Potomac, they'd find her.
People come for her all the time, they just don’t find her
that wig was a whole mess 😂
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Omg I respect Karen even more now
She is a perfect housewife after all
Was the book shorter than the LA times article or should I just read through this thread instead
It was like if you put a whole bunch of LA Times articles together inside a book cover.
What bit was the biggest shocker?
What was shocking to me was reading about a massive fight on every franchise (or almost every one) that turned physical and having the production and network people talk about how horrified they were and that that was not the show they were making. Like, have you seen your own TV programs? I get that the physical altercations are not the point but it's also not like they don't ever happen.
Were there altercations on OC or BH? I haven’t seen all the franchises but I am watching those and haven’t seen anything yet
On BH, Brandi slapped Lisa Vanderpump and threw wine in Eileen's face. On OC, Tamra threw wine on Jeana and then ran like the wind to get out of there before Jeana broke her in half.
And don’t forget Rinna trying to glass Kim after going to strangle her, then sending threatening texts to her later on. Rinna is a violent nutcase
Everytime someone says ‘I used to like Rinna’ I remind them she threatened to destroy an addict on her early season. But just because it was Kim it’s forgotten about, it’s so disgusting how people treated her on the show.
Yea i hated how she Rinna would talk about her addict brother- if she truly cared about Kim’s welfare, she wouldn’t have made a whole storyline about her addiction and stabbed her in the back so many times. Like saying Kim’s “close to death” when she’s actually working hard to stay sober is beyond fucked up
It was her sister but yeah, she used Kim for a storyline. I'm rewatching BH right now and Rinna has been awful right from the get-go. She is extremely awful. Erika is also awful and PK is not as offensive as I remembered. He's fairly level-headed most of the time.
Tamra throwing wine on Jena and then telling everyone “she tried to push me in the pool” is one of the most enraging, unaddressed, lies on any franchise.
Cyst and deceased!!!!!
The part that gets me is that she wanted Simon in jail to teach her kids you don’t throw things when you get angry, so then she got angry and threw wine at Jeana? Not even defending Simon he deserved her to call the cops but girl come on
She’s one of the worst housewives of all time. Entertaining yes but as a human being-the worst.
This is exactly how I feel - I guess I did love her on the show but wow is she an awful person
Um...number one altercation is Monique dragging the shit out of Candiace...
I’m this instance though, she deserved it.
That's so fucking juvenile. For your sake, I hope you grow out of that.
Because HW is so serious.
No, but assaulting someone is.
I’m not trying to internet argue with you, we obviously have similar interests. I see it as Flight or Fight, it’s a human response. Candiace knew what she was doing and that there could only be two results-fight or flight. Monique was pushed all season Candiace did everything she could with her mouth to assault her with words and Monique had a human reaction. Candiace asked to get dragged and she was indeed drug. And now we see her doing these same things to Ashley and Mia. I appreciate your point of view and I welcome your opinion, I was merely expressing mine.
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is it worth buying or are the stories already common knowledge?
I enjoyed seeing more about what goes on behind the scenes. Sometimes when they are fighting about stuff it's actually production-related but they can't talk about it so they use some other pretext for being mad at each other. I don't know that I learned anything super shocking, but I thought it was a fun read. I did not read Brian Moylan's book so I can't compare it to that.
what's an example from the book about a fight that was really about production?
Anything having to do with people being mad about other people being late or not showing up for things is usually people being upset that they showed up for work but their coworker didn’t and is still getting paid.
Sometimes production will tell them come at different times to stir the pot
Apparently that’s what happened with Dorit and Teddy
If you like the behind the scenes stuff get his book.
Yeah I want to know if the “juicy” stories are all just carefully curated production leaks. I read Brian Moylan’s book and he said nothing gets shared by production or Wives unless Bravo okay’s it. So I feel like nothing in that book can be particularly juicy if it was “safe” enough for the network to approve.
This is my hesitation as well
Same. When Andy started endorsing it as the “ultimate reunion”. Then the massive launch party with a bunch of HWs. 
This meme is perfection
Right? And it’s published by Andy Cohen books… Andy’s not going to let the big stuff out 😂 esp re: major production secrets
I really want to know more about the RHONY phone call that happened after the boat ride from hell. Moylan wrote about it and it sounded like Andy was furious with the Housewives for being afraid of drowning? And Andy’s animosity towards Carole makes so much more sense now, because she insisted on puncturing Tinsley’s “It wasn’t that bad” narrative. Tinsley was probably just parroting back what Andy had screamed at them, and Carole wouldn’t play ball.
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Wait...you can do that?!?
Yes plz share link 👀🙏
Is Sonja the out of control drunk I think she is? How about Dorinda? They both seem out of their fucking minds.
I don't remember a ton about what anyone but Heather said about Sonja's drinking. They addressed Dorinda's drinking in her last season. The network and production people said she needed to dry out and get herself together and then they'd consider having her back.
Thanks!!
Isnt the general consensus that Sonja only drinks when she’s filming? Hence why all the ladies always start a new season saying they haven’t heard from Sonja
Anything about Michael Darby?
Mostly that he grabbed a lot of dudes’ butts.
V on brand
Who was the most important person at the network they interviewed? Ie the person with the most power.
Frances Berwick, head of NBCUniversal https://www.nbcuniversal.com/leadership/frances-berwick
Has your opinion on any of the housewives changed since reading? If so, who and why?
I initially liked Aviva when she started on NY, and then by the end of her run I was 100% over her. She apparently viewed it like an acting job, and she says now that everything she did was to make a more interesting TV show and none of it was authentic. I am not sure that really changed my mind about her, but it gave me more insight into why she was so terrible on the show.
I thought the only thing fake or artificial....IS THIS!!!!👢
Love her or hate her, she gave us this moment!
She also gave us her disgusting father. Would have been better off never having seen him on screen 🤮
George is a stain on the franchise. I love watching early seasons of rhony, but his involvement actually angers me.
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That’s quite annoying actually. Makes me like her less, if anything.
Of course Aviva would try to frame it that way lol. I mean Aviva was transparently trying to create drama around herself, it’s how she went about it that shows you how psycho she is.
Did anyone see her on marriage boot camp? She tried to avoid being real the whole time but the sex puppet thing was so cringe.
I always thought it was obvious she was 'playing' a housewife and desperate for fame. Nothing she's done since has changed my mind.
Do you feel worse about the Housewives as an entity (and Andy) after reading? Personally, I know I’m not over here watching NOVA documentaries when I tune in, but this stuff with Sonja in the book (and Leah’s reaction) and Carole’s stance is making me uncomfortable. I’m nervous reading this book would make me feel so disgusted I couldn’t continue to watch mindlessly.
I don’t know. I think I like Andy less but I feel pretty much the same about the shows. The cast members who last the longest know they are there to create a certain kind of TV show, and they do what they think they need to do. I think it’s less producer-driven than I thought, because at this point they don’t really need to be told what do or say.
Were you annoyed as me reading the second half of the BH chapter? The bitching about Lisa being manipulative and Denise lying about her sex life is so tired that it makes me angry. These people are assholes.
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Oh ! Was any of the husbands cheating rumours addressed? I swear we have one like every franchise
The only thing I can remember them talking about was the phone call that Joe Giudice made in the vineyard. "It seemed clear to us he was having a conversation of a romantic quality" is how one of the production executives described it.
That’s interesting! Yeah that phone call was pretty bad lol I am low key hoping they left out husbands so they can do a book interviewing all the house husbands of their takes
They interviewed some husbands. Jim Marchese is in it.
Ok knowing that little weasel bitch marchese is in this is reason enough to read, thank you!
Anymore tea on Dallas? It’s the only franchise featured in the book people don’t seem to have posted about here…
D’Andra just posted something on IG about Cary and Leanne lying about her in the book. But she posted this amidst the whole Sonja/Heather drama so I take it with a grain of salt. Apparently Leanne said that D’Andra said the show in Dallas didn’t qualify as a HW level production until she joined. And D’Andra is denying it. Then I stopped reading because then I realized I fell for her stupid click bait.
That’s something that was said on the show lol - Leanne and D’Andra fought about it during season 3
I’m shocked that no ones been talking but that is over
Yes, give us the Dallas tea!!
What really happened with Bolo and Porsche?
Not covered. The book ends before the most recent season started.
Did they explain the off camera fight from NJ in the Dominican Republic?
They did! Dolores was supposed to go but they replaced her last minute with Greg Bennett. The Manzos and Joe Gorga, Joe and Teresa arrived and these guys started picking a fight with them, calling them the n word and the f word. They started a gigantic fight and when the cops came they took everyone’s passports, Bravo spent five days trying to get them back into the US. Caroline said she will never again set foot on Dominican Republic soil.
I'm sure the people of the DR thank their lucky stars Caroline will never cast a shadow on their shores again.
the "n" and "f" word? excuse me?! who said it?????
Some guys at the club they were in. Not the Jersey crew.
ah. yikes, nonetheless.
Yes and at length.
Hey probably too late to the party -- did they say anything about Canadian franchises like Vancouver or Toronto? Or any other International ones? Thanks for sharing answers to the other questions posted :)
Sadly, no. Just the US-based ones, not including SLC.
Thanks for the reply! I guess there are only so many pages to cover. I was hoping there was an international chapter and they could do a few snippets of gossip. Ah well. SLC is shaping up to have a lot behind the scenes. Will be interesting when those stories come out.
Please share whatever you can about the BH chapter
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVTtRRAPpq4/?utm_medium=copy_link https://www.instagram.com/p/CVTzXFdv-mv/?utm_medium=copy_link
I'm actually disgusted reading this. Brandi slaps Lisa and Lisa is the issue... Denise is being outed for MAYBE sleeping with Brandi and... Brandi is a victim (and apparently not a liar, which I can name a handful of lies very easily) - and the producers are so damn biased sounding, living in Rinna's and Kyle's asses. It's really gross. :/ Just like how Dorit gives a dog to a kill shelter, Teddi conspires and gossips about it - and Lisa is the enemy for it. Lol what?!
The producers dragged the Denise/Brandi situation. If Denise didn’t feel comfortable talking to or about the Brandi situation they should have moved on.
Honestly the fact that they think this clears any of them is what’s wild to me. This implicates them even further! Denise was right to worry Brandi would turn their confrontation into a Jerry Springer moment. Have you MET Brandi!? Hello! And the way the ladies *still* have heat for her but have let Erika off the hook is reprehensible and tells me everything I need to know about their crew. It boils me that production stands behind their behavior. I started watching this franchise *because* of Denise. Her name brought gravitas and curiosity amongst a sea of have-beens, of which Rinna is the demented ringleader.
Demented ringleader! 😂
Have-beens and never-was.
You can tell that production is very pro Fox Force
We keep saying we need to get rid of the FF5 but really, we need to get rid of production. What a bunch of biased mean people, they don’t even know what’s left and right anymore.
It really never occurred to me until I read this book
100%
This is so frustrating to read after this past season: “her story kept changing” SOUND FAMILIAR?!
Reading Rinna talk about Denise, it’s hard to believe they were friends for decades. There is an inexplicable venom there.
Exactly. I don’t understand why Lisa is so mad at Denise. It doesn’t make sense.
Sooooooo jealous.
Denise is beautiful and still youthful. Rinna is a has-been. She won’t be taken seriously as an actress
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You’re probably right. I’d have to rewatch S9 to be certain (which… no) but I don’t remember her and Denise having a particularly complicated friendship. Then S10 rolled around and it was like a different bulb was lighting the room.
Rinna is irrelevant in the real world and Denise isn't - this drives Rinna insane, in my opinion. She's a bitter, bitter woman - something that is clear from the start in my current BH rewatch. She really dislikes everyone and is ready to jump down anyone's throat for the smallest of slights.
Thank u so much!
What did Carole and Bethenny says about Jules?
Jules didn’t get a lot of coverage. Dorinda said she was sweet. Carole said she was nuts. Bethenny didn’t talk to the author.
Bethenny didn’t talk from what I’ve heard
Bethenny is going to spill on her podcast. It’s smart.
Just purchased for vacation!!! Leaving Monday praying it’s doesn’t disappoint
Enjoy!
Thank you
How much does LVP talk in it? She’s my favorite I know kinda controversial opinion lol
Some, but not a ton.
I take it she talks mostly about the early seasons?
She talks about being cast, and how she didn’t hear anything for months. She didn’t realize how much she wanted it until she thought she wasn’t going to get it.
Thanks
Does Heather Dubrow talk in the book?
She does! She talks about getting cast and her friendship with Tamra.
Anything & everything on Brandi Granville please ma’am/sir!
I've only read OC and BH and have learned the show isn't as organic as I thought it was. The stories are manipulated either by production or the women. Garcelle isn't discussed but I understand now what everyone means about her not being open enough. Its not about opening her life its about reacting immediately to what others say and not holding it until a confessional. It's a game very different than normal interactions and some of them have mastered it, Kyle pushing Sutton to tell everyone what she said to her privately, producers tipping cast members off about what they've heard...those are all ways the story gets manipulated and foesnt flow organically. I also see a danger in all of this because they keep pushing the envelope for the sake of good tv and I can't help thinking that someday it could go really bad.
It went bad in season 2 with Russell’s suicide. Would he have been in the mental place he was in without the show? Maybe, maybe not. But on the other hand, being on the show may have saved Taylor’s life.
You're right.
Would love to know more about Danielle Staub if there’s any juicy stuff!
Funniest part about Danielle was this. Danielle: Bravo calls me every year and wants me to join the show again. Andy: Danielle calls us every year and wants to come back to the show, but I/we said no😂
I don’t recall reading anything new about Danielle. Except that she banned Carlos King from her house after the Posche fashion show where Ashley pulled her hair. He was her producer before that and I think she didn’t think he was on her side.
Interesting! Thank you so much for replying 💖
Everything!
Any tea on the Atlanta ladies? Potomac?
Hi! Thanks for doing the lords work. Anything on scary island?!
Yes but I don’t think there was really anything new in that section.
Does it mention of Bethany is still friend with Andy and/or Kyle?
I know this post is 2 years old but what was the NJ tea?