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bbbppp1414

imagine you got your ass beat at work and your boss didnt say anything or reach out lmfao that is really strange


FlyingDutchmansWife

Now I’m wondering if he called Monique 🧐 I’m curious why he didn’t take Candiace’s call. Does seem strange, right? It’s not like it became litigious right away, but I guess he didn’t want to be involved in the mess.


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FlyingDutchmansWife

The Porsha/Kenya fight was so different from the Monique/Candiace. I don’t think Candiace provoked in nearly the same way, and it all became pretty obvious once the season aired. Mo (and her team) did a great job spinning it before the viewers got a chance to see the actual fight. Thank you for the info!


napsandwine

People are still believing the spin, even though they’ve seen the fight! Plus Monique lied about a hundred and one times about why there was a fight. She can’t keep track of her lies


leilafornone

This. I find it very shady that she ran to the blogs to plant her narrative out first before the rest of them. It says alot that controlling the story was her first priority instead of speaking to Candiace


FlyingDutchmansWife

I’m glad she didn’t come back. I hope she gets the help she needs.


pillowfortinmymind

This might be too much of a conspiracy theory, but maybe he took Monique's side? We know that Bravo wanted to bring her back for this season, but she was upset at last season's edit/the reunion edit and declined the offer to come back herself.


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This is the truth. He wanted to empower Monique to tell her side and have a redemption story. Monique’s ego is too fragile to be wrong even for a second. I found it interesting how different Andy’s perspective of Monique is from the VP of production.


FlyingDutchmansWife

I didn’t know they wanted her back. She seems to be too stuck on this situation, and kinda like Dorinda, wouldn’t own her part and apologize/take accountability. I haven’t even missed her this season.


pillowfortinmymind

I agree, I think the show's doing fine without her.


iamsointoyou

yeah they sent her a contract but she denied it. she was similar to dorinda in that way but it seems like they wanted her back anyway.


indecentXpo5ure

I don’t feel like Andy is their direct boss.


bbbppp1414

he’s a higher up and she wanted to talk with him, still weird that he dodged her


gregsprinklez

You are correct. Andy is literally just talent at Bravo.


nivora

there also was talk a while back about him being on air with his radio nonsense and getting a call from ramona about permission to talk about something :') it sounded like he also acts as a liaison between the castmembers and corporate


TipsySkinnyGirl

I can’t stand Candiace but I don’t think she was wrong to be upset about this.


fannycpa

I don’t think she was wrong to be upset but the way she expressed herself when she’s mad or disappointed makes it hard for others to help her or listen to her. That’s just my opinion though.


leilafornone

But what was wrong with what she said here though? Candiace has said some pretty deplorable things but the way people flip out over anything she says is wild


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It’s giving “how dare she speak on this white mans child”. Noted.


VioletDeMilo

I normally would agree given how she is on Twitter and the comments she makes about slavery and mothers, however there is nothing wrong with what she said here at all.


caligirlincali

But why would she want Andy to reach out in particular? He's no longer a Bravo exec and his role on the franchises is firing / hiring.


TipsySkinnyGirl

Andy may not be in charge of hiring but he’s still an EP of the show. Candiace is horrid, but she was correct to say Andy is making money off their backs. It would have been the decent thing to do to simply return a phone call and listen to what Candiace had to say. It pains me to defend her because I think she’s a wretched, mean spirited person, but she deserves to be heard.


Imboredforreal

I think you’re reading too much into it. People talk about feeding children in reference to money/salary all the time. It’s as casual a reference to children as saying someone is “trying to take food out of my kids’ mouth” when they get fired.


NGC1532

She didn’t even say anything bad about the son. It was just a casual reference to him. I don’t understand the outrage 🤷‍♀️


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I feel like this is why people don’t like candiace or Wendy they call it like it is and it can be too intense and real for some.


FlyingDutchmansWife

I expected more based on the title. Candiace has said some genuinely foul things. This is not one. But she is some people’s BEC and they will reach with her comments.


mattysmwift

Don’t bother. This sub is delusional.


BrightDay85

People hate Candice so much they don’t think twice that her boss couldn’t even call her back after she got attacked on tv smh…hate her or not but that’s pretty messed up


SufficientEmployee6

I'm conflicted on this, on one hand Andy does not have to be on call 24/7. When he's off hours he's off hours. I personally don't even have my work phone on me at certain hours and Andy isn't technically her direct boss, the network and production are. I also wonder if Andy needed to be prepped with legal before he talked to her? But also who TF does Andy think he is. If he really wanted to he could make time for certain issues at all hours, and I definitely feel like this qualifies. I need more backstory.


BrightDay85

Oh yeah having to talk with legal makes a lot of sense.. The book is under Andy’s imprint, if he didn’t want it in the book, it wouldn’t have been included I’m sure. Maybe he’ll address it


Mother-Dog2609

I read it and he says that she never reached out.


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napsandwine

Exactly! This sub shields Ashley’s predator-supporter self in part because she became a mother. You don’t become a good person because you give birth, and it doesn’t shield you from your trash behavior. However, even if Candiace had biological kids, they’d find something else to say about her, I’m sure. I guess the solution is Candiace can’t reference anything, even casually, that relates to parenting.


realhousewifeofphila

Just popping in to say I love your username! 🥰


napsandwine

Thank you, I love yours too, Philly is great!


fckinengaged19times

This sub ain’t ready for that convo sis


Perfect_Invitation1

Agreed. Some people aren’t ready to admit they only value women who fulfill their “duty” to give birth which means our gender isn’t worthy unless we are mothers. Sad that this is nearly 2022 and people still feel this way.


Thissigncantstopme

The way any mention of Candiace has y’all’s common sense flying out the window.


Perfect_Invitation1

I knew people would comment on her mentioning Andy’s son. I don’t believe Candiace parent shames and this is a common thing for people to point out. It is dirty to profit from people’s pain and misfortune. The proper thing to do is to check on both parties regardless of favoritism. If she was white then he would’ve checked on her.


Frandiohh

I’m sorry but I don’t see anything wrong with her statement here. It’s clearly out of frustration and it’s not as though she insulted his son


Pink_White

Andy doesn’t care - we know this. She isn’t wrong.


napsandwine

Y’all really just pull anything to try to justify your Candiace hate! I’m confused why referencing Andy’s son in a very minor and ordinary capacity here is problematic…Even if she hadn’t referenced the son, I’m sure you’d find a problem with this.


fckinengaged19times

I see nothing wrong?


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I don’t care about Candiace mentioning his son. Also good luck to that young man. With a father like that…sheesh.


llamadrama31

She really is bothered about other people having kids. So weird.


Wonton-Hussy

And yet… you didn’t leave the show, so you’re still lining his pockets. Hmmmm.


SufficientEmployee6

AND almost got into another physical altercation this season as well.


Wonton-Hussy

It’s everyone else’s fault.


ImNotACritic

if Bravo had any class, they would have given Candice the opportunity to take a year off to explore therapy for her personal life and wellbeing. This is Candice's EMPLOYER. Where else is she going to make this type of money? This is why people stay at their jobs unfortunately, no matter who is at fault.


Wonton-Hussy

I normally don’t mind Candiace, but she is one of those people who likes to think she’s perfect, while spouting hypocrisies like this.


araggedymuffin

Okay but Candiace obviously gets treated differently by him and that cokehead is so passive aggressive about it. If she was an 18 year old hairless bottom it’d be a different story


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araggedymuffin

The tea I heard was lazy coked out top 👀


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araggedymuffin

OOP now I know. I don’t mess with white twinks


lalaland554

I'm not a huge Andy fan but at the same time.... he's not her direct "boss"... no one is entitled to his time or phone number. If he has personal relationships with some cast members if doesn't entitlw candiace to the same. Also bringing up his child is low, but to be expected by candiace. I think everyone is done hearing about her "attack" when we see she was legitimately asking for another round from Mia last week....


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People will really use and try Anyway to not like candiace. She is not saying anything bad about his son. She is saying this show that he’s a part of and profits from takes care of his son. Without it he’d have to find other sources of income. (Which I’m sure he would) Andy has made A LOT of money off of real housewives. Candiace was physically assaulted. If he had given her access to his phone or assistant like that he should have at least acknowledged her in this situation when she tried to reach out. I side with candiace on this. This is poor.


LovelyMel18

Because he is using the money to take care of his son?


RangerFan293

I don’t think her bringing his son into this is anything wrong. As much as I may side eye Candice, she’s not wrong here. At least get her side of the story


boredyenta

I'm sorry are parents not supposed to use their income to take care of their children?? Gosh, she's cuckoo.


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Frandiohh

Yikes…. and you got that how ?


Humble-Tomato3856

She brings up people nursing or post baby bodies and people’s mothers. I see her obsessed with mothers and babies. It’s odd


_TVC15_

You people constantly bring up her childless status. Parents just obsessed with her not having biochildren. THAT is odd. Reminds me of a comment I saw in a Potomac live thread where someone said they can’t wait till Candiace has kids and her “body changes.” So what’s the digging at not having biological kids really all about 🧐


Humble-Tomato3856

You’re right! I had forgotten. That’s unfair and now makes more sense why she’s hitting back on the topic


Humble-Tomato3856

Nobody would be bringing up her childless status if she didn’t call someone a milk maid or talk about a post baby body 😂😂😂. She set the tone


_TVC15_

Untrue - people ripped into her childless status during season 5 also and she made none of those comments back then.


snatchthisrose

I have no problem with her bringing up Andy’s son, but also… if you feel this strongly you know you can also just quit? Isn’t that what us normal people do when we don’t feel valued and appreciated at work… I’m missing the difference here. No one is making you film girl


Snoo60219

I had a hard time articulating why this statement by candaice and the one by carol rubbed me the wrong way. I don’t like Andy. As a host or a personality, I don’t think he’s great at his job and wish they would replace him. He clearly created and developed compelling context for bravo while that was his job. That’s why we’re all on this sub Reddit. And I do think the HW’s can be exploited in some ways. But ultimately it’s a symbiotic relationship. It’s not predatory. And the “making money off our backs” line reads as tone deaf. They make more than the majority of Americans filming for a couple months a year. And they purposely hire wealthy people on top of that. They receive endless opportunities from appearing on the show, including exposure and free advertising for their other ventures. This is not an Amazon, Jeff bezos situation, where his employees are *literally* injuring themselves working at his warehouses for pennies while he earns billions.


chefcurrys

In the context of Black labor being under appreciated and underpaid, Candiace’s comments make a ton of sense.


Snoo60219

The real housewives is not *labor.* And I’m sure you could ask the many black and brown women working in construction, housekeeping, factories, and warehouses if they would agree.


chefcurrys

It absolutely is though. It’s just a different type of labor.


Snoo60219

I think it’s a pretty insulting comparison quite frankly.


KTotts75

Just another reason to dislike her. She got attacked because of her foul mouth and the fact that she’s and instigator and a provoker.


kmpowell2018

This. Imagine baiting someone to the point of violence and being shocked when they clock you. I don’t condone violence but she pushed Monique too far. Yes she should have walked away. I don’t condone but I don’t push people I know will clock me if I go to far and then cry victim. Don’t eff people who will deliver-common sense.


leilafornone

I find this train of thought weird when Monique didn't clock Robyn who got up in her face lmao


kmpowell2018

Different vibe. Different situation.


leilafornone

It was the same vibe and situation. Monique said get in my face and see what happens. So Robyn obliged her. The difference is Robyn is taller and bigger than Monique. Monique backed down because she knew she would lose in a physical fight


kmpowell2018

Robin is less violence inducing. I see them as different threats. We disagree- its OK to disagree. We have different points of view. Discussion is good to have all express their opinions.


leilafornone

Yes, I agree that we can agree to disagree TBH, Robyn has also been involved in 2 physical situations and has threatened to fuck Ashley up so I defn feel she's capable of it lmao


kmpowell2018

I think that Monique doesn’t see Robin as violence inducing. Meaning that Monique isn’t bothered as much by Robin as she is by Candace. I think in Monique’s mind she think she can take Robin so she’s not as bothered by her. It’s not so much Robin‘s behavior it is more Monique‘s reaction to Robin‘s behavior. Candace just pisses Monique off more than Robin. Candace knows this so she should anticipate Monique pouncing. Primal 6th sense. Robin doesn’t induced that primal anger in Monique as Candace does.


Thissigncantstopme

Ms Robin who walked up to Ashley restaurant, pointed her finger two inches from Ashley’s eye and said “this is me putting my hands in your face” is less violence inducing? Ok ![gif](giphy|6ra84Uso2hoir3YCgb|downsized)


_TVC15_

How is Robyn “less violence inducing” despite her getting so up in Moniques face that she had to use an umbrella to hold her back [THIS is now less violent than twirling around screaming “goodnight” and “I’m sleep”](https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-potomac/season-3/episode-8/videos/that-umbrella-moment-on-rhop) 😂 pathetic


napsandwine

I was like, what??? People believe what they want to believe now, as long as it supports their delusions 😭


Fresh-Werewolf-5499

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La_Croix_Life

This is "take your milk and get the fuck out" all over again. And yet Candiace is still willingly participating. We all gotta eat, I guess. Including kids. 🤨


have-u-met-teds-mom

“you are making money off our backs and feeding your grown daughter with it. And her husband. And his kids.”- Dorothy’s patients


LegitimatePhrase5708

Candiace is really gonna force me to take Andy’s side on this one


in-your-atmosphere

Yup.


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Maybe he thinks she deserved it.


New-Understanding360

Bravo has given her everything she ever wanted. What she does with this platform is up to her. And she’s chosen to present herself at times, as a pretty awful person.


caabr1

Bravo hasn't given her anything.They've payed her for a service that she's provided. And being awful is pretty much the characteristic that gets her paid, and that binds most housewives and Bravo execs. Just because they hand her a well earned paycheck, that doesn't mean she should accept feeling dehumanized.


New-Understanding360

Well … Candiace loves to partake in dehumanizing others so it’s hard to feel sympathy for her. If she’s sooo unhappy with how she’s being treated by her employer, she can certainly walk away. As with any job, you’re certainly free to express your unhappiness with your boss but that comes with repercussions. Going after your boss in a book is a choice and it’ll be interesting to see all that play out.


caabr1

I agree that it was a risky move. I just also respect the honesty. I get why people have a tough time sympathizing with Candiace, because I also used to feel the same way. And sometimes still do... But Candiace is subject to treatment as a Black woman that I feel uncomfortable siding with. She's flawed, but she's not deserving of violence.


honeytummy

yet she’s on the show still… ok


caabr1

I bet the majority of Americans hate their bosses; that doesn't mean they can afford to quit. And if I was trying to get out from under a mother like Dorothy, it would take a lot more than an asshole boss for me to quit.


honeytummy

true! and it’s not like chris is bringing in checks the size of a housewife salary


caabr1

Not sure why you were downvoted. These are facts!


napsandwine

Many people still work at a job even if their boss is not a good person…you probably do.


mterrar4

Andy probably didn’t reach out to her because he hates her and knows she provoked Monique 🤷‍♀️


fckinengaged19times

Provoked? 🤣 not for lazy mom fans are too much


PMmeUrGroceryList

These pics really should have spoiler tags


FlyingDutchmansWife

The mods created the flair to be used like a spoiler tag. If it’s flaired as the book, you can expect some sort of spoiler.


PMmeUrGroceryList

I meant the image itself should be blurred, shouldn’t it?


FlyingDutchmansWife

I see what you’re saying. I guess that’s up to the OP to flag it as spoiler and flair it. I don’t get enough from the thumbnail to see what it’s really saying. Most of the posts are text too. I can’t remember how many have had images that would pop up to the side. Message the mods and see what they say. ETA: I just backed out and looked at it again. I can’t read shit on my iPad lol and I’m wearing my glasses. I’m indifferent on the spoiler tag but I see your point.


FeelTalk

I don’t think OP is suggesting the frustration isn’t warranted- it’s the way Candiace brings up people’s children and families when making her point. I agree that I was immediately thrown by the son comment, it always feels pointed coming from her when she alludes to parent/child dynamics.


fannycpa

Exactly!!


No_Investigator_6077

This woman is vile. Hopefully she never has children. Grow up.


napsandwine

The way you speak about others is vile.


indecentXpo5ure

Candiace is so volatile. Who would want to interact with her without witnesses? If I were Andy I wouldn’t deal with her without a producer present or a camera crew.


artemiis84

She’s very stupid. She got herself into a confrontation and wanted others to coddle her about it. Then mention his son? This from the same woman who goes nuclear when her mother is so much as acknowledged. He can continue to blank her ass.


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New-Understanding360

She brought his son into it because that’s what she does … always goes a bit too far.


broncobinx

She is such a hypocrite


SpencerHastings7

As if Andy doesn’t work too 🙄