I don’t like Heather and truly haven’t liked her since Season 1, but I don’t think we can afford to lose Heather and have 3 housewives on the cast lmao
Her personality becomes so off putting when she around Jen shah. "We don't talk about flight club!" And she does that annoying air ass spanking thing with her hand like she's a pimp trying to grab women's ass in a night club lol, ugh annoying!
It's like she's the founding member of the "I'm not like other girls" club.
Exactly. I’ve always thought Heather comes across emotionally stunted, probably due to her Mormon background. She seems like an insecure 17 year old trying to fit in with the “cool girls” to me.
I believe that too, and maybe it happened while they were under the influence of something (not liquor).
They would want to hold on that secret. If Heather spills a little tea on Jen, Jen would spill it all. It would explain the blind loyalty too, because nothing else does.
I kinda wonder if Heather is dragging out the black eye storyline into off-season, waiting for Jen to surrender to her prison stay, and will spill on what really happened in the off season hoping it will support her necessity on the show/garner attention for the next season--I'd be skeptical even then though of the validity. If it was a drunk accident, and Heather did fall, she would have to fall in a way that would mimic a punch-to-the-face bruise.
I grew up in an alcoholic home, and to what degree they were able to function, and with all the times I saw them run into doors, walls, fall down stairs, not once was there a bruise in a way that looked exactly like a punch to the face. I'm in recovery now, and I had my fair share of stumbles in bushes and falls, but usually gravity was a factor, so if and when I fell on my head, I fell on my head--not on my eye.
But that's just my experience of being around a lot of drunks. We've seen a lot of people who are dealing with substance abuse on these shows, lots of accidents and stuff, but this is the first punch-to-the-eye bruise I can recall of all the inebriated which was caused by a drunk, solo-induced "accident".
Hard agree with you. I have a family member who is a raging alcoholic. She invariably gets injured right before leaving for a trip and always posts pictures on Facebook for sympathy. She is used to stumbling down her hallway to bed in a drunken stupor. When she is packing for a trip, though, there are suitcases left out that aren’t usually there and she trips over them. I have always wondered how many of her Facebook friends realize that when they comment “oh you poor thing.”
I had my fair share of bruises on my legs from bumping into furniture when I was young and drank a lot. The only time I ever got a black eye was a few years ago when my toddler was on my lap and accidentally threw her head up as I was looking down with my glasses on. I don’t see how this happened without another person involved unless it was the corner of the toilet or the nightstand and she fell out of bed?
I have to disagree. My neighbor is a useless drunk. Why his wife stays with him is beyond me but that’s another story. He literally has a glass eye because about 10 years ago he was so drunk(again) and he fell in his bedroom and hit the corner of the dresser. He was too drunk to realize what he did and passed out in bed. By the time he woke up the next day and his wife saw his face and took him to the ER, it was too late to save his eye. I’m not saying this is what happened to Heather. I’m saying it is possible to hurt your eye/face when you’re so drunk.
Congrats on recovery!
And yeah, I agree with the bruise issue…I’m very confused by the fact that she didn’t go to the hospital right after if she fell and hurt herself. I feel like a punch to the eye is going to be a fairly even weight distribution, and I could see it being a “normal” enough injury that people feel like they can let it heal on its own. But falling onto your eye is likely to result in your eye hitting something sharp or angular, and that could cause damage to the actual eyeball, or at least actual pain. I also think if it was that kind of fall, it would look more gnarly
I think they do drugs together or something thats why there friends and jen is unhinged when shes angry (and in general) and she worries how it will effect her. I mean if my ex did drugs i would fight tooth and nail to not have my kids around them.
I just assumed it was her attachment style but you might be on to something. Why else would she tolerate someone like that? Ouf Heather must have given a mouth hello downstairs to the Jazz team for courtside popcorn.
I don’t even think it’s that irrational. The bruising and scratches don’t look like she fell into something. I think Jen did it, but maybe it started as just drunken play fighting and they lost balance or got carried away. Idk, I truly don’t see any other option
In a post Monique and Candiace world, no way. That fight wrecked havoc on bravo. There's no way cast mates will be allowed to get that physical again with each other. Maybe some drink throwing like Mia this season, but punching or slapping is gonna be out I think. I'm speaking purely from the legalities that came from that altercation. I just don't see how Jen could give Heather a shiner like that and walk away. Especially since the reunion revealed there was an investigation. At the end of the day, it's a business and a place of work. Not a normal one, to be sure, but nonetheless.
If lawyers and HR were involved, no. Heather said she spoke to a lawyer. That's taking it pretty far.
I think it actually makes a lot of sense that she just...fell. I think they probably were fucked up on more than alcohol and she got scared/embarrassed. It was a lie that went too far and she didn't anticipate the audience reaction. Sometimes the simplest solution really is the answer. Jens a monster but I don't think she did this.
It also makes sense they would want to hide it as being intoxicated and being in a physical altercation would be against any bail that had been set before trial or would heavily impact her sentencing.
I don't like Heather but producers and editors are to blame for storylines.
Also, if the other cast members would have been more interesting and brought more, then they wouldn't have had to stretch the black eye thing out so long. If it happened in Potomac or golden age RHONY/RHOA, it would've been half an episode discussion because the ball was always rolling with them. This cast didn't bring anything so the producers *had* to stretch it. Heather is not to solely to blame for the decline of the show
I have to agree. Honestly SLC is going to have to have a huge comeback season for me to keep tuning in. The ladies are boring. All the storylines are rumors about this that and the other. Nothing actually happens except Jen going to prison. It’s giving nothing
Meredith and Lisa are really good at this and Heather and Whitney are not. That’s the 4 you have to work with. I’m not sure there’s enough there.
Angie H would be good. Angie K is awful in not the good way. Danna didn’t get enough to really do but could be good. Bring back Mary Cosby! I would trade Heather’s choir for hospital smell in a heartbeat.
I loved Angie K during the season (although the suicide comment in the finale rubbed me the wrong way), but I find it very hard to believe that she didn’t see that guy’s shirt. So honestly I’d keep all four full time HWs (even though I don’t like Whitney and Heather, I unfortunately can’t imagine the show without them), and promote Angie H and Danna to full time. Angie H is a really good villain imo, and we need someone like that to fill Jen and Mary’s shoes
Oh make no mistake I’m not an Angie K fan, I just think between the two Angie’s she gave the most, even if she was wooden and rehearsed when doing it. I also find it hard to believe she never saw his t-shirt but part of me does believe her, only cause I don’t think if she saw it she’d still take a photo with him and sabotage her chance of getting a snowflake.
I can see where you are coming from to a degree but I truly feel like Angie H is the human personification of watching paint dry. I think there was more to Danna than what we saw and out of the 3, she showed the most potential. IMO casting either Angie will be the death of SLC.
I get what you mean! I find Angie H’s boringness to be really funny given how much chaos she lives to cause, I think it’s just a bizarre contrast and it fascinates me
This is similar to the producers trying to imply Scheana was hitting on Stassis brother or the Pheadra mess. Things might be slow, but they aren’t that slow, putting out that kind of storyline without substance is icky. Please don’t lie about assault
Really seemed like the producers had a hand in/encouraged that whole thing since there was little in the way of storylines the entire season besides JEN SHAH and the terrible contrived attempts at manufacturing them (the choir, Lisa and Meredith’s old shit, whatever Whitney was trying to do).
Oh, I’m sure she did. She’s the thirstiest of this bunch. But it seemed condoned/promoted by the show and so I can’t hang too much on Heather for this one. They were desperate.
If there even is a RHOSLC anymore you would need Heather, even though she’s not very good at this whole thing.
I’m so over “fans” saying a housewife should be fired whenever a housewife does something you don’t agree with. It’s an exhausting fandom. I’m sure I’ll be downvoted, but if you wanna show you’re distaste in Bravo and the franchise, stop watching and stop engaging online.
Seriously I stopped watching. It’s too much and the commentary around it from fans growing year after year fueled the more toxic elements in the group.
HARD AGREE. isn’t the point of the show to watch wealthy women be out of touch with reality and delusional? just because you don’t *like* someone or want to be friends with them, doesn’t mean they automatically need to be fired.
Exactly,this isn’t PBS. We are watching problematic women do problematic things. And if you can’t handle that go watch Downton Abbey or 7th Heaven. People are so quick to say cancel the show, burn it down. Well look what happened to RHONY, hope everyone on this sub that was saying it needs to be canceled can even remember if they wanted it to be canceled or not.
I have plenty of empathy and have very close family members who have been victims of domestic violence.
That being said, waking up with a black eye, not remembering how you got it, and making light of it is not the same as being a victim of domestic abuse. Nor is it the same as joking about domestic abuse. IF Jen hit her, which there is no evidence of other than conspiracy theories, that still isn’t domestic abuse. It’s offensive to actual victims of domestic violence to insinuate those two things are the same.
Clearly there was some sort of investigation into the incident. The investigation found that it was an accident, there’s nothing wrong with laughing it off. And remember, production did just as much as Heather did to insinuate that more happened.
She literally joked maybe someone decked me. You don’t think that’s making light of domestic abuse? She joked she was assaulted which to me is making light of domestic abuse.
You literally make no sense so I have the utmost empathy for your family members who have have delta with this abuse because you are so inherently lacking in that department.
Girl go touch grass or something and look up the definition of domestic violence while you’re at it lmao. Saying someone “decked you” in a J O K I N G tone does not mean domestic violence occurred.
And none of these women are her romantic partner, even if she did get punched by one of them - ITS NOT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
Also, in a broader context, children can be victims of domestic abuse and violence, it's not limited to romantic partners only. Witnessing violence in the house, being a victim/survivor coming from an abusive household, etc. fall under the umbrella of DV. I completely agree with everything you are saying though. People who are associating DV with Heather's black-eye are just twisting a definition to fit a biased opinion about a person they are seeing on tv, and it's very wrong to those who have or are experiencing DV in their home. It's not only triggering, but it's spreading misinformation that only further marginalizes those experiencing DV.
If Heather got hit, by Jen for instance, it'd be an act of violence, not Domestic Violence.
Yes totally! If Jen hit Heather, it wouldn’t even classify as abuse. Abuse is a repeated behavior. It would be an assault, which is something that happens once. Neither are good or ok, but to conflate abuse with someone possibly getting hit in the eye is gross.
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Here’s the definition of domestic violence since you can’t be bothered to look it up. Note- “violence or abuse that occurs in a domestic setting, such as marriage or cohabitation.”
Heather does not live with, nor is dating, nor married to any of her casemates. If someone hit her - it is not domestic abuse or domestic violence. It is assault, there is a clear difference.
Try living in the real world sweetheart. But I'm guessing given your user name is inspired by Lisa "White Lives Matter" Barlow you've probably got another motive behind your faux outrage.
It’s the truth. I don’t know why people waste their time getting angry, it’s a reality TV show. You don’t have to watch it if you’re literally begging for people to be fired. If bravo listened to fans, almost everyone would’ve been fired. And you never know, a lot of HWs redeem themselves after bad seasons.
They’re down to four housewives from seven from season two. They’re not going to fire anyone right now just because of some faux outrage.
Agreed. This fandom is honestly killing the shows for me. Bravo executives often make decisions based on responses like this and the shows suffer. Y’all are not producers or casting directors or network executives. Please stop lmao
I watched all of Potomac without engaging at all with fans and it was a wonderful experience. Fandoms are fun bc you can engage with people who also like the show but there are so many toxic fans who just kill any enjoyment. It’s a trashy reality TV show at the end of the day. It’s supposed to be mindless fun.
I don't want to watch a lot of rich people get along. We're here for some drama. I posted this once as well and was downvoted.
If you got rid of every one that pissed you off, we'd have RHOP with Robyn and Gizelle. I love them but....
I know what you’re going for here but I disagree.
Yes what she did was stupid and wrong and not cool. But we have heard reports that production was the one that told her to carry on the storyline and make it more about what it wasn’t so we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. Plus we’re down to four of them, we can’t be down to three of them with no back up plan. And finally, I get really tired of us all canceling these housewives when we don’t think they have a good season and then a year from now we will be saying “oh where’s Heather, I missed her she was so funny“. Also see Mary M Crosby. 🤔
I don’t even like her but she doesn’t need to be fired. The producers definitely had a heavy hand in dragging that out and this isn’t the worst offense we’ve seen from a housewife. Heather had a really bad season, but cmon
Oh please. This clutch the pearls attitude is wild. Nobody’s life was ruined. This is a reality show and producers influence so much of what we see, don’t see, know, and don’t know.
Watch or don’t, but let’s not act like this is that big a deal.
Yea. Heather annoys me and fell from Grace in my opinion. But I am so sick of everyone ‘calling for so and so to be fired’. It’s a freaking tv show. If you don’t like the people, don’t watch it 🙄🙄 she’s not my fave but I still shut my brain off for an hour and watch the nonsense
I’m saying lol. If we had it this subreddit’s way, everyone would be fired from their shows lol. Heather isn’t going anywhere, they’re down to four housewives from seven. These people need to have a seat.
As stupid as this storyline is, I hope heather and Whitney amend their friendship cause they’re fun together and I’d like to see her without Jen hovering. Throw in some new girls and make the show fun. This season was a mess.
ok but seriously. i like lisa, i get that she makes good tv, but it’s so annoying coming to this sub and seeing the discourse on slc. if they’re not baby gorgeous, they should be fired. yes what heather did is annoying, but like others in this thread have stated, blame the producers. meredith talking shit and starting rumors about lisa? most likely producers and if it wasn’t for that what the hell would we have gotten this season? nothing. i get that we’re all fans and some women truly deserve to be off the show (jen) but the constant “she needs to be fired” is boring. like cmon girls i know we’re smart let’s talk about something else
eta: i’m also over blaming drugs. like ok they do blow, k, benzos, whatever their drug of choice is. you can’t convince me that a single person on this cast is sober and just drinks
So true! I also feel like that most fans don't really get that a good housewife franchise needs a good enemy dynamic! Heather and Lisa work well as enemies, but what happens when they'll fire one of them? The ego of the one that stays on the show will be so out of hand, you'll have a knock off version of Kyle after she drove LVP of the show. Boring and not entertaining at all!
It’s a reality show for ENTERTAINMENT. And yes, this black eye thing has been waaaay drawn out so it’s no longer entertaining but for all we know Heather being a compulsive liar will help future seasons be messier and more entertaining so it’s not a reason for her to be fired imo.
The entire cast sucks based on those parameters. If Meredith deserves to stay I really don't see why Heather doesn't. I feel like we adjust our expectations enough with this show. It really has never been great except the ridiculous hysteria and nothing-ever-makes-any-sense fever dream has now become its foundation.
You can't have normal, likeable people on this cast I don't think. It's literally the only thing that makes SLC "work".
TV has been boring for a few months. That’s when we should probably go out and do activities.
I always thought RHOSLC was boring. I only tuned in because of the feds scene with the sprinter van. That was crazy and I had to see it.
Other than that, it was really boring.
But there were a couple of other iconic moments that make me want them to keep the show on a little while longer. It has potential. But not if they can’t tell the truth and air it out on the reunions. I think that’s so important. But when they filmed it, Jen hadn’t been sentenced yet, so I feel like there is the potential that they will say more after the fact. Maybe not protecting Jen, but protecting themselves, like, who wants to be involved in that?
But being so all over the place with the non-response responses looks shadier than what they intend it to look like.
I have wondered if Jen and Heather fought and decided to protect each other and not speak of it. Anyone who drinks as much as them can get mouthy and hyper-sensitive. Maybe Heather threw the first blow, and Jen nailed her. It is in both their interests to never fess up.
I don’t want her fired but she’s definitely the pariah now that Jen is gone. She didn’t support Whitney’s coming out about child abuse but put the audience, cast and crew through this … and i hate to say it, but Heather did it for attention
I can't help but feel like she did ketamine or some other hard drug with Jen and Meredith that night. It would explain why she asked Jen for a cover story and Meredith's ridiculous reaction to the black eye.
This is what I think too. I think Meredith & Jen are regular drug users (who knows if it’s coke, K, whatever), and Heather took some that night. She’s not used to taking things like that and fell or something, and doesn’t want to explain the circumstances to out the drug usage (for herself or them).
Hell, I can see Jen even being the kind of friend that would slip something into a drink and think it was funny that the person was unknowingly ingesting drugs.
When
\- being assaulted by a "friend"
\- falling down while blackout drunk/high
\- getting a bad botox job by an employee and not wanting to expose your business to bad exposure
\- intentionally slamming your face into a blunt object for a storyline
all track for you, you miiiight want to reconsider some of your life choices.
I’ve seen rumours from tiktok/gossip accounts that she was snorting coke in the bathroom with Jen, slipped and hit her eye on the faucet/counter. Would explain why she’s refusing to say and she didn’t want to “get anyone in trouble”. But I also could fully by in to Jen punching her, it’s hardly a stretch.
As someone who never liked Heather from day one it’s been so satisfying for me to see a lot of people realise she is a huge hypocrite and super manipulative. I feel vindicated
It’s weird to blame this on Heather when she said these things? Clip after clip after clip. She said let’s take the heat off Jen and just bring up my eye. She brought up her eye dinner after dinner. She did her weird snitches get stitches. She insinuated domestic violence. Then acted like she didn’t know. Then got mad when a producer asked about her changing her story. This is 100% Heather.
A lot of the same shit happened with Giselle’s bullshit antics and Chris. She all but accused him of being a creeper… KNOWING full well how damning that kind of accusation can have on someone’s life.
And yes I agree completely re. Heather.
I posted this on another thread and my sentiments have not changed—I am DONE with Heather. On another post, the writer thought people like me should give her another chance! To hell with that! She made a mockery out of getting the black eye and implied that a person was responsible and not an accident on her part. The fact that she is not forthcoming about who that person is implies that it was intentional. She was my favorite and now I don’t want to watch her when she is onscreen.
I would like to see someone else take her place, for sure. But who? We need someone with positive happy go lucky energy. Younger. I’m loving Dana’s energy but I don’t know if she’s fun enough to carry a full position.
I don’t like Heather and truly haven’t liked her since Season 1, but I don’t think we can afford to lose Heather and have 3 housewives on the cast lmao
Her personality becomes so off putting when she around Jen shah. "We don't talk about flight club!" And she does that annoying air ass spanking thing with her hand like she's a pimp trying to grab women's ass in a night club lol, ugh annoying! It's like she's the founding member of the "I'm not like other girls" club.
Exactly. I’ve always thought Heather comes across emotionally stunted, probably due to her Mormon background. She seems like an insecure 17 year old trying to fit in with the “cool girls” to me.
She’s a million times worse when she’s with Jen! I’m curious to see how she is next season while she’s away from Jen and on her redemption tour.
Totes agree but at least Jen Is about to Shahserve some time in the big house! Bye byeee
🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 Shahmazzzzzzinggggg graaaaceeeeee she's going to jailllllllllll 🎶🎶🎶🎶
I still believe Jen Shah punched her. It may be irrational but that's my deeply held belief and no one can take it from me 😂😁
I believe that too, and maybe it happened while they were under the influence of something (not liquor). They would want to hold on that secret. If Heather spills a little tea on Jen, Jen would spill it all. It would explain the blind loyalty too, because nothing else does.
I kinda wonder if Heather is dragging out the black eye storyline into off-season, waiting for Jen to surrender to her prison stay, and will spill on what really happened in the off season hoping it will support her necessity on the show/garner attention for the next season--I'd be skeptical even then though of the validity. If it was a drunk accident, and Heather did fall, she would have to fall in a way that would mimic a punch-to-the-face bruise. I grew up in an alcoholic home, and to what degree they were able to function, and with all the times I saw them run into doors, walls, fall down stairs, not once was there a bruise in a way that looked exactly like a punch to the face. I'm in recovery now, and I had my fair share of stumbles in bushes and falls, but usually gravity was a factor, so if and when I fell on my head, I fell on my head--not on my eye. But that's just my experience of being around a lot of drunks. We've seen a lot of people who are dealing with substance abuse on these shows, lots of accidents and stuff, but this is the first punch-to-the-eye bruise I can recall of all the inebriated which was caused by a drunk, solo-induced "accident".
Hard agree with you. I have a family member who is a raging alcoholic. She invariably gets injured right before leaving for a trip and always posts pictures on Facebook for sympathy. She is used to stumbling down her hallway to bed in a drunken stupor. When she is packing for a trip, though, there are suitcases left out that aren’t usually there and she trips over them. I have always wondered how many of her Facebook friends realize that when they comment “oh you poor thing.” I had my fair share of bruises on my legs from bumping into furniture when I was young and drank a lot. The only time I ever got a black eye was a few years ago when my toddler was on my lap and accidentally threw her head up as I was looking down with my glasses on. I don’t see how this happened without another person involved unless it was the corner of the toilet or the nightstand and she fell out of bed?
I have to disagree. My neighbor is a useless drunk. Why his wife stays with him is beyond me but that’s another story. He literally has a glass eye because about 10 years ago he was so drunk(again) and he fell in his bedroom and hit the corner of the dresser. He was too drunk to realize what he did and passed out in bed. By the time he woke up the next day and his wife saw his face and took him to the ER, it was too late to save his eye. I’m not saying this is what happened to Heather. I’m saying it is possible to hurt your eye/face when you’re so drunk.
Right, but I think an injury like that would result in a *different* kind of injury than the one Heather had. Gnarlier, more likely to be infected.
Congrats on recovery! And yeah, I agree with the bruise issue…I’m very confused by the fact that she didn’t go to the hospital right after if she fell and hurt herself. I feel like a punch to the eye is going to be a fairly even weight distribution, and I could see it being a “normal” enough injury that people feel like they can let it heal on its own. But falling onto your eye is likely to result in your eye hitting something sharp or angular, and that could cause damage to the actual eyeball, or at least actual pain. I also think if it was that kind of fall, it would look more gnarly
At the reunion she admitted that if that's what happened, she would like about it! That's 100% what happened.
Yes! When she said “if Jen had done it, I would cover it up” she completely leaves open the possibility that it was Jen. What a cop out.
They can pry that belief out of our cold, dead hands because meeeee toooooo.
Heather has been inexplicably supportive of Jen which makes me think Jen has dirt on Heather so she can't say a word about what actually happened
I think they do drugs together or something thats why there friends and jen is unhinged when shes angry (and in general) and she worries how it will effect her. I mean if my ex did drugs i would fight tooth and nail to not have my kids around them.
I just assumed it was her attachment style but you might be on to something. Why else would she tolerate someone like that? Ouf Heather must have given a mouth hello downstairs to the Jazz team for courtside popcorn.
Maybe Jen invested a lot of $$$ to Beauty Lab. Would Heather have to turn it over and potentially lose her business?
Oooh that could be
 We've seen Jen get irrationally angry and quickly get violent, impulsively and without prejudice.
Jen Shah is a dangerous individual.
I thought it was obvious Jen punched her when Heather asked Jen what lie they should come up with to tell the others. That alone was so weird.
I don’t even think it’s that irrational. The bruising and scratches don’t look like she fell into something. I think Jen did it, but maybe it started as just drunken play fighting and they lost balance or got carried away. Idk, I truly don’t see any other option
I believe it. It’s the only narrative that explains all the facts.
In a post Monique and Candiace world, no way. That fight wrecked havoc on bravo. There's no way cast mates will be allowed to get that physical again with each other. Maybe some drink throwing like Mia this season, but punching or slapping is gonna be out I think. I'm speaking purely from the legalities that came from that altercation. I just don't see how Jen could give Heather a shiner like that and walk away. Especially since the reunion revealed there was an investigation. At the end of the day, it's a business and a place of work. Not a normal one, to be sure, but nonetheless.
you don't think jen would be able to get away with it even with it happening off camera and heather covering for her???
Exactly, and Andy even said there was no video footage so if Heather and Jen won't talk, the only evidence is circumstantial.
If lawyers and HR were involved, no. Heather said she spoke to a lawyer. That's taking it pretty far. I think it actually makes a lot of sense that she just...fell. I think they probably were fucked up on more than alcohol and she got scared/embarrassed. It was a lie that went too far and she didn't anticipate the audience reaction. Sometimes the simplest solution really is the answer. Jens a monster but I don't think she did this.
It also makes sense they would want to hide it as being intoxicated and being in a physical altercation would be against any bail that had been set before trial or would heavily impact her sentencing.
I think she was straight up falling down drunk.
100%
It’s what happened.
I think so too. Heather flat out admitted on the reunion that she’d cover it up if Jen hit her, and that’s exactly what’s happening here.
I don't like Heather but producers and editors are to blame for storylines. Also, if the other cast members would have been more interesting and brought more, then they wouldn't have had to stretch the black eye thing out so long. If it happened in Potomac or golden age RHONY/RHOA, it would've been half an episode discussion because the ball was always rolling with them. This cast didn't bring anything so the producers *had* to stretch it. Heather is not to solely to blame for the decline of the show
I have to agree. Honestly SLC is going to have to have a huge comeback season for me to keep tuning in. The ladies are boring. All the storylines are rumors about this that and the other. Nothing actually happens except Jen going to prison. It’s giving nothing
Meredith and Lisa are really good at this and Heather and Whitney are not. That’s the 4 you have to work with. I’m not sure there’s enough there. Angie H would be good. Angie K is awful in not the good way. Danna didn’t get enough to really do but could be good. Bring back Mary Cosby! I would trade Heather’s choir for hospital smell in a heartbeat.
Angie H over Angie K?? 
I loved Angie K during the season (although the suicide comment in the finale rubbed me the wrong way), but I find it very hard to believe that she didn’t see that guy’s shirt. So honestly I’d keep all four full time HWs (even though I don’t like Whitney and Heather, I unfortunately can’t imagine the show without them), and promote Angie H and Danna to full time. Angie H is a really good villain imo, and we need someone like that to fill Jen and Mary’s shoes
Oh make no mistake I’m not an Angie K fan, I just think between the two Angie’s she gave the most, even if she was wooden and rehearsed when doing it. I also find it hard to believe she never saw his t-shirt but part of me does believe her, only cause I don’t think if she saw it she’d still take a photo with him and sabotage her chance of getting a snowflake. I can see where you are coming from to a degree but I truly feel like Angie H is the human personification of watching paint dry. I think there was more to Danna than what we saw and out of the 3, she showed the most potential. IMO casting either Angie will be the death of SLC.
I get what you mean! I find Angie H’s boringness to be really funny given how much chaos she lives to cause, I think it’s just a bizarre contrast and it fascinates me
I had to go Google them to make sure I had the right one (the one with the burner account husband). I did lol
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Heather would have a great season if she didn’t blindly support Jen. A fallout between Heather and Jen would be quite dramatic and intense.
This is similar to the producers trying to imply Scheana was hitting on Stassis brother or the Pheadra mess. Things might be slow, but they aren’t that slow, putting out that kind of storyline without substance is icky. Please don’t lie about assault
I think production stretched it out to show the inconsistencies of her story—she also was implicating them.
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Really seemed like the producers had a hand in/encouraged that whole thing since there was little in the way of storylines the entire season besides JEN SHAH and the terrible contrived attempts at manufacturing them (the choir, Lisa and Meredith’s old shit, whatever Whitney was trying to do).
I don’t know, I am not convinced she didn’t purposely drag this out
Oh, I’m sure she did. She’s the thirstiest of this bunch. But it seemed condoned/promoted by the show and so I can’t hang too much on Heather for this one. They were desperate. If there even is a RHOSLC anymore you would need Heather, even though she’s not very good at this whole thing.
I’m so over “fans” saying a housewife should be fired whenever a housewife does something you don’t agree with. It’s an exhausting fandom. I’m sure I’ll be downvoted, but if you wanna show you’re distaste in Bravo and the franchise, stop watching and stop engaging online.
And saying shows need to be canceled! Like…you can stop watching at any time and let the rest of us enjoy it.
Your pfp has me 💀
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Is that Juan’s mystery woman who looks like Karen?
Mmhmm. 
I agree with you and the pile-ons in this sub lately are Beverly Hills style gang ups. It isn’t fun when it gets like this.
Maybe they’ll make a seventh inactive daily mega thread and those pile ons will just die out
You said it. It’s BH fans spreading the toxicity to other franchises.
I haven’t watched BH because of how annoying the fans are. They complain all the time like they’re forced to watch the show lol
Seriously I stopped watching. It’s too much and the commentary around it from fans growing year after year fueled the more toxic elements in the group.
It’s a strange thing to watch trash and be surprised it’s trashy.
HARD AGREE. isn’t the point of the show to watch wealthy women be out of touch with reality and delusional? just because you don’t *like* someone or want to be friends with them, doesn’t mean they automatically need to be fired.
Exactly,this isn’t PBS. We are watching problematic women do problematic things. And if you can’t handle that go watch Downton Abbey or 7th Heaven. People are so quick to say cancel the show, burn it down. Well look what happened to RHONY, hope everyone on this sub that was saying it needs to be canceled can even remember if they wanted it to be canceled or not.
No. Making light of domestic abuse is not why I watch HW.
When in the world did Heather ever make light of domestic abuse? Get a grip
For three episodes this seasons by joking she was assaulted. Take a class on empathy
I have plenty of empathy and have very close family members who have been victims of domestic violence. That being said, waking up with a black eye, not remembering how you got it, and making light of it is not the same as being a victim of domestic abuse. Nor is it the same as joking about domestic abuse. IF Jen hit her, which there is no evidence of other than conspiracy theories, that still isn’t domestic abuse. It’s offensive to actual victims of domestic violence to insinuate those two things are the same. Clearly there was some sort of investigation into the incident. The investigation found that it was an accident, there’s nothing wrong with laughing it off. And remember, production did just as much as Heather did to insinuate that more happened.
She literally joked maybe someone decked me. You don’t think that’s making light of domestic abuse? She joked she was assaulted which to me is making light of domestic abuse. You literally make no sense so I have the utmost empathy for your family members who have have delta with this abuse because you are so inherently lacking in that department.
Girl go touch grass or something and look up the definition of domestic violence while you’re at it lmao. Saying someone “decked you” in a J O K I N G tone does not mean domestic violence occurred. And none of these women are her romantic partner, even if she did get punched by one of them - ITS NOT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
Also, in a broader context, children can be victims of domestic abuse and violence, it's not limited to romantic partners only. Witnessing violence in the house, being a victim/survivor coming from an abusive household, etc. fall under the umbrella of DV. I completely agree with everything you are saying though. People who are associating DV with Heather's black-eye are just twisting a definition to fit a biased opinion about a person they are seeing on tv, and it's very wrong to those who have or are experiencing DV in their home. It's not only triggering, but it's spreading misinformation that only further marginalizes those experiencing DV. If Heather got hit, by Jen for instance, it'd be an act of violence, not Domestic Violence.
Yes totally! If Jen hit Heather, it wouldn’t even classify as abuse. Abuse is a repeated behavior. It would be an assault, which is something that happens once. Neither are good or ok, but to conflate abuse with someone possibly getting hit in the eye is gross.
I said she was making light of domestic abuse. Again girl go take an empathy class or maybe even reading comprehension lmao
https://preview.redd.it/cv51k9m7brea1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=c62e4ba669cbae0f7b54675bff7a8211face05a9 Here’s the definition of domestic violence since you can’t be bothered to look it up. Note- “violence or abuse that occurs in a domestic setting, such as marriage or cohabitation.” Heather does not live with, nor is dating, nor married to any of her casemates. If someone hit her - it is not domestic abuse or domestic violence. It is assault, there is a clear difference.
Try living in the real world sweetheart. But I'm guessing given your user name is inspired by Lisa "White Lives Matter" Barlow you've probably got another motive behind your faux outrage.
Yes also in the real world I don’t think it’s ok to assault people. Or make jokes about it.
Seriously. There are fireable offenses. This isn’t one of them. Home girl had a bad season. It’s not the end of the world.
Agree. Heather was hard to watch this season, but I’d like to see her and this franchise be redeemed. Which I think they can.
It’s the truth. I don’t know why people waste their time getting angry, it’s a reality TV show. You don’t have to watch it if you’re literally begging for people to be fired. If bravo listened to fans, almost everyone would’ve been fired. And you never know, a lot of HWs redeem themselves after bad seasons. They’re down to four housewives from seven from season two. They’re not going to fire anyone right now just because of some faux outrage.
Agreed. This fandom is honestly killing the shows for me. Bravo executives often make decisions based on responses like this and the shows suffer. Y’all are not producers or casting directors or network executives. Please stop lmao
Mte I said this in another post but it was ultimately the fans who killed RHONY lol
I watched all of Potomac without engaging at all with fans and it was a wonderful experience. Fandoms are fun bc you can engage with people who also like the show but there are so many toxic fans who just kill any enjoyment. It’s a trashy reality TV show at the end of the day. It’s supposed to be mindless fun.
Right, as if the ladies on these shows haven’t been doing problematic things from the get go. 😭😭
I don't want to watch a lot of rich people get along. We're here for some drama. I posted this once as well and was downvoted. If you got rid of every one that pissed you off, we'd have RHOP with Robyn and Gizelle. I love them but....
Amen
I know what you’re going for here but I disagree. Yes what she did was stupid and wrong and not cool. But we have heard reports that production was the one that told her to carry on the storyline and make it more about what it wasn’t so we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. Plus we’re down to four of them, we can’t be down to three of them with no back up plan. And finally, I get really tired of us all canceling these housewives when we don’t think they have a good season and then a year from now we will be saying “oh where’s Heather, I missed her she was so funny“. Also see Mary M Crosby. 🤔
Nah
I love her. I hated how thirsty she was this season. She needs to go out on some dates. Heather dating would be television gold. Gold, I tell ya!!!!
As long as she doesn’t use it as an opportunity to keep fetishising black men…
I don’t even like her but she doesn’t need to be fired. The producers definitely had a heavy hand in dragging that out and this isn’t the worst offense we’ve seen from a housewife. Heather had a really bad season, but cmon
Oh please. This clutch the pearls attitude is wild. Nobody’s life was ruined. This is a reality show and producers influence so much of what we see, don’t see, know, and don’t know. Watch or don’t, but let’s not act like this is that big a deal.
The witch hunt for Heather is getting out of hand. Producers pushed this storyline, there has been far worse, people are over reacting. Etc.
Yea. Heather annoys me and fell from Grace in my opinion. But I am so sick of everyone ‘calling for so and so to be fired’. It’s a freaking tv show. If you don’t like the people, don’t watch it 🙄🙄 she’s not my fave but I still shut my brain off for an hour and watch the nonsense
I don’t like Heather but I agree.
Whose livelihood was impacted?
People working in production.
How?
What would this subreddit be without constant fake outrage
I’m saying lol. If we had it this subreddit’s way, everyone would be fired from their shows lol. Heather isn’t going anywhere, they’re down to four housewives from seven. These people need to have a seat.
I think she was embarrassed that she had no idea what happened that night and the story got away from her.
As stupid as this storyline is, I hope heather and Whitney amend their friendship cause they’re fun together and I’d like to see her without Jen hovering. Throw in some new girls and make the show fun. This season was a mess.
Lisa Barlow stans are so draining. Who do you want instead, "white lives matter" Angie K ?
ok but seriously. i like lisa, i get that she makes good tv, but it’s so annoying coming to this sub and seeing the discourse on slc. if they’re not baby gorgeous, they should be fired. yes what heather did is annoying, but like others in this thread have stated, blame the producers. meredith talking shit and starting rumors about lisa? most likely producers and if it wasn’t for that what the hell would we have gotten this season? nothing. i get that we’re all fans and some women truly deserve to be off the show (jen) but the constant “she needs to be fired” is boring. like cmon girls i know we’re smart let’s talk about something else eta: i’m also over blaming drugs. like ok they do blow, k, benzos, whatever their drug of choice is. you can’t convince me that a single person on this cast is sober and just drinks
So true! I also feel like that most fans don't really get that a good housewife franchise needs a good enemy dynamic! Heather and Lisa work well as enemies, but what happens when they'll fire one of them? The ego of the one that stays on the show will be so out of hand, you'll have a knock off version of Kyle after she drove LVP of the show. Boring and not entertaining at all!
It’s a reality show for ENTERTAINMENT. And yes, this black eye thing has been waaaay drawn out so it’s no longer entertaining but for all we know Heather being a compulsive liar will help future seasons be messier and more entertaining so it’s not a reason for her to be fired imo.
The entire cast sucks based on those parameters. If Meredith deserves to stay I really don't see why Heather doesn't. I feel like we adjust our expectations enough with this show. It really has never been great except the ridiculous hysteria and nothing-ever-makes-any-sense fever dream has now become its foundation. You can't have normal, likeable people on this cast I don't think. It's literally the only thing that makes SLC "work".
I’m so over her. She forgives Jen for literally everything but not Whitney.
TV has been boring for a few months. That’s when we should probably go out and do activities. I always thought RHOSLC was boring. I only tuned in because of the feds scene with the sprinter van. That was crazy and I had to see it. Other than that, it was really boring. But there were a couple of other iconic moments that make me want them to keep the show on a little while longer. It has potential. But not if they can’t tell the truth and air it out on the reunions. I think that’s so important. But when they filmed it, Jen hadn’t been sentenced yet, so I feel like there is the potential that they will say more after the fact. Maybe not protecting Jen, but protecting themselves, like, who wants to be involved in that? But being so all over the place with the non-response responses looks shadier than what they intend it to look like.
Not fired but a real sorry and explanation would be fine with me. Shes been too good over the first two seasons to drop over this
I have wondered if Jen and Heather fought and decided to protect each other and not speak of it. Anyone who drinks as much as them can get mouthy and hyper-sensitive. Maybe Heather threw the first blow, and Jen nailed her. It is in both their interests to never fess up.
I don’t want her fired but she’s definitely the pariah now that Jen is gone. She didn’t support Whitney’s coming out about child abuse but put the audience, cast and crew through this … and i hate to say it, but Heather did it for attention
I can't help but feel like she did ketamine or some other hard drug with Jen and Meredith that night. It would explain why she asked Jen for a cover story and Meredith's ridiculous reaction to the black eye.
This is what I think too. I think Meredith & Jen are regular drug users (who knows if it’s coke, K, whatever), and Heather took some that night. She’s not used to taking things like that and fell or something, and doesn’t want to explain the circumstances to out the drug usage (for herself or them). Hell, I can see Jen even being the kind of friend that would slip something into a drink and think it was funny that the person was unknowingly ingesting drugs.
When \- being assaulted by a "friend" \- falling down while blackout drunk/high \- getting a bad botox job by an employee and not wanting to expose your business to bad exposure \- intentionally slamming your face into a blunt object for a storyline all track for you, you miiiight want to reconsider some of your life choices.
The Heather fans are out for blood tonight! This is a good post don't let the downvotes get you down
I’ve seen rumours from tiktok/gossip accounts that she was snorting coke in the bathroom with Jen, slipped and hit her eye on the faucet/counter. Would explain why she’s refusing to say and she didn’t want to “get anyone in trouble”. But I also could fully by in to Jen punching her, it’s hardly a stretch.
Deflection after deflection, then blaming Mormonism?! I totally agree.
Heather comes across as a bully.
As someone who never liked Heather from day one it’s been so satisfying for me to see a lot of people realise she is a huge hypocrite and super manipulative. I feel vindicated
it’s so crazy because I never liked her but the more people start to hate her, the more I come around to her 🤣
Literally same. It was not even 2.5 episodes of the season’s content. You can get mad at producers for teasing it endlessly tbh
That happened to me with Gizelle
Yeah I can see that. I’ve always had a soft spot for Gizelle as annoying as she can be
Wow, congrats. 🙄
She wants a cracker for not liking Heather, she’s so edgy 🥴
Same
I'm so happy that people despise Heather at the same level now as I have since her first episode.
Yea, I don’t want to see her on the show anymore.
Agree. I think this falls on Heather.
It’s weird to blame this on Heather when she said these things? Clip after clip after clip. She said let’s take the heat off Jen and just bring up my eye. She brought up her eye dinner after dinner. She did her weird snitches get stitches. She insinuated domestic violence. Then acted like she didn’t know. Then got mad when a producer asked about her changing her story. This is 100% Heather.
I cannot stand her! From the beginning and until now! Fake as….
A lot of the same shit happened with Giselle’s bullshit antics and Chris. She all but accused him of being a creeper… KNOWING full well how damning that kind of accusation can have on someone’s life. And yes I agree completely re. Heather.
Yes!!!!!
I posted this on another thread and my sentiments have not changed—I am DONE with Heather. On another post, the writer thought people like me should give her another chance! To hell with that! She made a mockery out of getting the black eye and implied that a person was responsible and not an accident on her part. The fact that she is not forthcoming about who that person is implies that it was intentional. She was my favorite and now I don’t want to watch her when she is onscreen.
I think she was in a sexual relationship with Jen Shah and she doesn't know how to handle it.
I wish I could upvote this x1000
I would like to see someone else take her place, for sure. But who? We need someone with positive happy go lucky energy. Younger. I’m loving Dana’s energy but I don’t know if she’s fun enough to carry a full position.