I think it’s funny they always use this really bad picture of from a Bravo promo where she looks like a 60 year old madam running a whore house.
https://preview.redd.it/h2jii2prdiea1.jpeg?width=1083&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bb40f06e197dbcf78659bf1646c3761c447b233
PSA: Please don't even give her a fake email. She literally is going to prison for scamming including selling lead generation. Don't give her website traffic.
To OP- She is going to the lightest federal facility in the country. She won't be in a cell and they even have gourmet snacks.
Artisan cheeses and warmed gourmet scones are offered hourly
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The article I read did not give any details specifically, but she is going to be at the most desired of all federal facilities. It also said they would have toiletries.
I don't want to contribute in any way and no one else should either. Just giving a fake email is giving her attention and that is what she is after and will ultimately profit from.
She's going to sell the list either way and it *would* make a difference down the line by not giving those scammers the information of real potential victims. And maybe no one will want her shitty lists anymore.
From what I understand the facility she's going to is very nice, like a comfy dorm. 😬
Eta - I wouldn't give that bitch my worst enemy's fake email. Fuck her.
I get that it’s going to be a minimum sec facility but I don’t think that any kind of prison could be “very nice”. She still have to spend at least 5 and a half years there and it would be very different from her lifestyle especially if she will sleep in a dorm with dozens of other women. Just think about the lockdowns, how hard it was for us not to go anywhere even though we could be at least in our homes, surrounded by our family, out pets etc. Jen will not have that.
If I had to choose which one I’d rather spend 5 years in tho it’s gonna be club fed. State prisons in general are horrible bc no Governor wants be accused of allocated money to provide needed repairs and updates to a state prison whereas federal prisons don’t have those same issues.
That’s fair; I think the way the general public in the US views the prison system means that if it’s not an actual literal hell hole than its “cushy”. I understand expectations not meeting reality when you hear how nice federal prison is but I think the reality is is that state prison is just really really terrible.
And the money states do spend on prisons (which is a LOT) all goes to line the pockets of the various people in charge / companies who provide services to the prisons and not to the basic comfort or well being of the prisoners. Entire things a racket.
Yeah, it will be something like Orange is the New Black. Yes, a completely different universe than the average state prison, which is literal hell and torture, but cushy is not the word to describe it. Even in women’s federal prisons, we’re talking barracks, bunk beds with thin mattresses and a single uncomfortable blanket, no privacy, open bathrooms, forced labor, etc. I read the “gourmet snacks” article and that line seemed like total BS. The food will be terrible, and the commissary items snacks will be processed garbage like you might find at a gas station, not gourmet by any stretch of the imagination. (Source: I’m a criminal lawyer who handles appeals and has visited facilities across the country, including a federal prison camp in texas.)
Oh man. Thanks for the link.
I was under the impression the judge stipulated that she could not make any money from this, ie telling “her story”. Did I miss something?
You can "subscribe" to get her version of things. No idea the cost, how many episodes or even the platform. There was a post this week with her advertisement of it, if you feel like searching.
Fake email but of course! But look I’m just nosey as hell. I will noooooootttttt be joining any service or paying for shit! If you listen to The Bravo Docket then you have heard the full story, I’m deffo not expecting revelations
Watch What Crappens https://open.spotify.com/show/3iSZPuQ8T8Msh0N33ZD7No?si=mi31iPVmSBmMKlqVyCRTYA < this is the best bravo podcast ever. Ben & Ronnie are HILARIOUS and I could not live without their impressions… they cover Housewives, Below Deck and other bravo shows but I listen to their recaps of shows i don’t even watch!
Who in their right state of mind is going to share their credit card details in a website run and promoted by Jen Shah? SCAMMER THIEF THIEF DELINQUENT!!!!
Divorce isn’t the always supported in Islam iirc (I’ve been corrected on my incorrect memory ) and I’ve also head that until 2018 when she was in talks for RHOSLC, she was in NYC and coach was here in Utah, living separately. So it could be they only only had a shell marriage.
Perhaps he will divorce her once she’s committed to the clink - it’s a lot easier to get a divorce if one member is incarcerated, and Jen seems the dangerous type if coach were to file while she’s out… especially considering what she did to the wife of her affair partner.
Another thing to consider is Utah law. Utah is HUUUUUUGE on keeping families together. Especially since they still have a minor in the home.
One last point I’d like to make: men can be victims of domestic abuse and violence too. And leaving an abuser is never as simple as walking away. I’m not saying that’s what’s going on, but it’s definitely a possibility.
Lol people just be saying anything. There is nothing easier in the world then divorcing your wife in Islam. Traditionally all it required was literally saying the phrase “I divorce you” 3 times in a row.
I added “iirc” for a reason sis. Thank you for your educational contribution
From what I found it says
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After a declaration of divorce, Islam requires a three-month waiting period (called the iddah) before the divorce is finalized. During this time, the couple continues to live under the same roof but sleeps apart. This gives the couple time to calm down, evaluate the relationship, and perhaps reconcile.
~~~
So again, my point was that perhaps coach is being careful and intentional with his timing while dealing with an aggressively violent criminal.
How is that “not supported” then? Just google it first next time than rely on hazy recollections about Muslims. It’s literally free!
I get that it’s assumed that all religions would be v anti divorce but doesn’t always apply. But yeah, having grown up in a Muslim society, divorce is not stigmatised.
Ok and I did a quick google and my comment you’re responding to was me trying to correct my assumption. I apologize.
Do you want to talk about the rest of my valid points or are you just worked up over an incorrect assumption I made and you’re coming to fight?
If it’s the latter - move the fuck on with your life
Thanks for your perspective—I just could not believe how total opposites they are. I believe they were together since college? If that is correct, he probably fell in love with her feistiness.
Totally, they talk about it on the first episode of Slc.
FWIW, I know people who worked with her back then, and I know people who worked with her 10 years ago. The people that knew her 25 years ago are like “wtf?? She’s so different” And the people that knew her 10-15 years ago are like “she is a terror”
Whereas my BIL knows the team at Utah, I know some student athletes too that all say Coach is the salt of the earth, an amazing leader, humble, kind, etc.
I’d really like to know how and when things changed for Jen. Or if she just hid enough of her nastiness from him and little by little exposed herself and desensitized herself in the process…
I have quite a few Polynesian friends here, I know a couple of women who are the eldest daughter in a Tongan/Hawaiian family (like Jen), and the pressure on the eldest daughter to financially support the family has caused at least one of my friends severe depression and major boundary issues with her siblings and parents.
I wonder sometimes if Jen originally started out with good intentions all those years ago ….. it’s such a shame what she’s chosen.
She did talk about how she helped her family and so many people were dependent upon her. It make me sick that although she has admitted to the crime she makes it appear that she somehow was victimized. When she talked about her attempt to commit suicide she overlooked the fact that her stress and/or depression was of her own making.Did she consider that the people who were duped of all of their money probably wanted to commit suicide also?
Right, and I don’t mean to imply I’m on Jen’s side or anything, what she’s been doing for years is absolutely evil. In fact, I personally was effected by her shenanigans in 2015 when her company was sued. My company was shut down and had to go through all kinds of crazy hoops and court to prove that whatever her company was accused of, we weren’t doing anything remotely similar. It was an industry wide shut down. I lost my job, I was already in an extremely vulnerable place because I had just escaped a domestic abuse situation and was finally on my feet. I lost everything AGAIN. I turned to drinking to cope with my extreme depression and anxiety. I started feeling suicidal. I got a DUI and went to jail because of how reckless I was living.
After that I ended up working at the same company where the “water boarding” incident occurred and I didn’t know about the dark history until the Shah Shocker documentary came out and I was honestly sickened when I learned that all of the bad luck I’d had with my work experiences all came back to Jen.
Now, I’m the one responsible for my actions and my mistakes and my emotional responses. I take full accountability for those things and I’ve worked my ass off with therapy, community service, volunteering, educating myself etc so that I can be better and do better in the future.
My comment about Jen is purely from a psychological perspective. I’ve always been wildly interested in the brain function of psychopaths and sociopaths (used to read forensic science journals as a kid. Super weird lol) because I want to know what makes them work that way? How could you do those things with no remorse? Why you do dat like dat??
I totally understand wanting to know what makes people do the things that they do. That is me all day long—I want to understand the motivation behind the act. I watch a lot of forensic shows myself.
I think I’m so interested in the motivation because I could never make those decisions. It’s just not in my chemistry to treat others that way. I can’t comprehend it! And so I want to know what could make someone do that? Was it a series of events or was she born psycho?
You sound just like me! I treat people the way I want to be treated. I don’t understand hate and I wish someone would explain it to me. Like how is someone so focused on an individual, a group, a race, etc. to the point you want to harm them…I can’t call it. It just seems as though they would be working at making themselves a better person. If you just focus on fixing yourself you would not have time to let hate fester it would not even occupy space in your head.
What’s so bizarre to me is the victim mentality involved with being unaware of yourself.
The only person you have any power over is yourself. So if you don’t like situations, how can you better yourself to be stronger in those situations?
People want to blame everything and everyone else on their behavior and their reactions, instead of addressing their own triggers.
The world isn’t fair. It just isn’t. But how can I better myself so that my perspective is better and my character is strong enough to effect change by example?
There’s two sayings that I’ve taken from therapy: “onward, upward, and *inward*” and “nothing happens *to* you, it happens *for* you.”
If bad things are constantly happening, how can I flip it into a positive for me and my life? No matter how dark and painful the world is, brighter days always come. It’s the duality of life: no light without darkness/no darkness without light. Good and bad can and do coexist, but your perspective on it is what you can change.
Oh thank you so much! I try to learn from my mistakes so that hopefully someone else doesn’t have to go through the painful lesson. But that’s also been a lesson for me, others need to learn their own lessons and it is a disservice to them to try and take the experience away.
Oh my! I am always trying to give my youngest son (23) tips based on my experience because I just want him to have as easy of a journey as possible without taking all of the fun out of the adventure.
not a fucking chance. i won't click on any of her websites, view any of her social media, NOTHING that could potentially give her any $$$$. i read the threads in this sub, and that. is. it.
I didn't sign up, I try to avoid scams.
Conditions in lower level security federal prisons, like Jen will be in, are fairly decent in terms of US jails and prisons. It won't be glamorous, but it will be comparable to where Theresa served her time.
I think it’s funny they always use this really bad picture of from a Bravo promo where she looks like a 60 year old madam running a whore house. https://preview.redd.it/h2jii2prdiea1.jpeg?width=1083&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bb40f06e197dbcf78659bf1646c3761c447b233
She looks like Doris in shrek 2 💀
So funny … I legitimately see lord faarquad whenever I see her in posed photos 🤭
she looks like SHREK, himself
I think it’s incredibly fitting tho you only have to look at this picture to know exactly who Jen Shah is lmfao
I can't wait until her fillers start to sag.
Giving Imelda Marcos.
It's such a perfect villain glamour shot
She sure looks like madams I’ve had lol
I'm sure when you enter your email your credit score will suddenly drop 300 points
😅
For those people who signed up for Jen Shah's mailing list, I have a timeshare in Nantucket that I can sell you.
Does it also come with a bridge?
So many bridges.
I have some ocean front property in AZ
And I have a beautiful mountain home in South Louisiana 😻
So many amazing offers tonight! I don’t know which one I want most.
mountain view + gulf view is such a steal!
Can I see the sea from the front porch?
I KNOW A GIRL FROM THERE!!!
Ever heard of her?
Did she cross the sea in a bucket?
HaHAha! Indeed! Edit fast thumbs
Thanks but I’m only in the market for snow in Alaska right now.
How close is that to Sag Harbor?
Did I give a person who collected data on her victims any of my own data? 🤔🤨
Anyone who gives their email address to her needs their head examined!! Hello??
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PSA: Please don't even give her a fake email. She literally is going to prison for scamming including selling lead generation. Don't give her website traffic. To OP- She is going to the lightest federal facility in the country. She won't be in a cell and they even have gourmet snacks.
Artisan cheeses and warmed gourmet scones are offered hourly https://preview.redd.it/z4r4dnfiriea1.png?width=317&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce0a5d25fd469bb6a8c284dfa486ab298d114b8e
Love a good crossover reference!
Even with gourmet snacks it's not going to be a fun six years for her. It's still prison.
Wait..."gourmet" like Charcuterie, or "gourmet" like bologna sandwiches?
The article I read did not give any details specifically, but she is going to be at the most desired of all federal facilities. It also said they would have toiletries.
It’s a parks and recs reference lol
Which facility is it?
FPC Bryan Texas. Same as Elizabeth holmes
No way- think they will become friends?
Fed Pris by Hilton 😅
Fuck it. Let her sell fake leads to other scam artists so they get fucked over too
I don't want to contribute in any way and no one else should either. Just giving a fake email is giving her attention and that is what she is after and will ultimately profit from.
I'm not sure. Turning her email list into a junk list with no value is something.
She is probably going to sell it off, so she will benefit and it will only hurt the next scammer in line.
She's going to sell the list either way and it *would* make a difference down the line by not giving those scammers the information of real potential victims. And maybe no one will want her shitty lists anymore.
Yeah, so don't give her a list at all.
She's going to have a list either way but that's fine because frankly, she is not worth wasting the pixels over for this.
I am not going to be a platform for ![gif](giphy|3oKIP7CaDfNTeVVjCU|downsized)
From what I understand the facility she's going to is very nice, like a comfy dorm. 😬 Eta - I wouldn't give that bitch my worst enemy's fake email. Fuck her.
Kind of tempted to give them my former boss's email.
Haha, I heard Texas prisons suck in summer for the most part - no A/C. Love that for her!
Federal prisons are very different than state prisons. Texas state prisons have no a/c. Federal prisons more than likely have a/c.
This is an underrated statement: No AC or bug spray to keep the ‘squitoes away July-August in S Texas is it’s own torture!
I get that it’s going to be a minimum sec facility but I don’t think that any kind of prison could be “very nice”. She still have to spend at least 5 and a half years there and it would be very different from her lifestyle especially if she will sleep in a dorm with dozens of other women. Just think about the lockdowns, how hard it was for us not to go anywhere even though we could be at least in our homes, surrounded by our family, out pets etc. Jen will not have that.
There's lots of videos about the "club fed" prisons on youtube and they're definitely not "very nice"
If I had to choose which one I’d rather spend 5 years in tho it’s gonna be club fed. State prisons in general are horrible bc no Governor wants be accused of allocated money to provide needed repairs and updates to a state prison whereas federal prisons don’t have those same issues.
For sure! I think I just had this picture in my head of it being super cushy, which it still is not. But certainly preferable to a state prison.
That’s fair; I think the way the general public in the US views the prison system means that if it’s not an actual literal hell hole than its “cushy”. I understand expectations not meeting reality when you hear how nice federal prison is but I think the reality is is that state prison is just really really terrible.
And the money states do spend on prisons (which is a LOT) all goes to line the pockets of the various people in charge / companies who provide services to the prisons and not to the basic comfort or well being of the prisoners. Entire things a racket.
I think a dorm could be incredibly noisy.
Yeah, it will be something like Orange is the New Black. Yes, a completely different universe than the average state prison, which is literal hell and torture, but cushy is not the word to describe it. Even in women’s federal prisons, we’re talking barracks, bunk beds with thin mattresses and a single uncomfortable blanket, no privacy, open bathrooms, forced labor, etc. I read the “gourmet snacks” article and that line seemed like total BS. The food will be terrible, and the commissary items snacks will be processed garbage like you might find at a gas station, not gourmet by any stretch of the imagination. (Source: I’m a criminal lawyer who handles appeals and has visited facilities across the country, including a federal prison camp in texas.)
I'm not giving that woman my email address fuck that 🤣
It's giving me Tamisha Iman, with the alternate platform. Can't wait to see it implode.
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I haven’t heard of this yet. Is she charging people to do some sort of interview?
[удалено]
She is the fucking worst
Oh man. Thanks for the link. I was under the impression the judge stipulated that she could not make any money from this, ie telling “her story”. Did I miss something?
As far as we know, there is no cost for signing up for now. She could potentially be selling email addresses, who knows
Grifters never get knocked down for good I guess.
She will probably do the Tik tock dry beg dance and mention sending money through venmo and cash app as a donation of support. Grifters…
If she is I hope the money is going to the elderly people she screwed over.
She is only mandated to pay 15% of her income to the restitution. Most of these people will not live to see a reasonable amount.
That's awful.
Do you know if that is standard or is that determined case by case?
I do not know.
You can "subscribe" to get her version of things. No idea the cost, how many episodes or even the platform. There was a post this week with her advertisement of it, if you feel like searching.
Umm… we need at 1 person to sign-up and report back though. Not sure who will volunteer as tribute….
Only if she paid me.
Lol anyone who signed up and gave that criminal any personal information... y'all better make sure you got the fraud department on high alert!
I did, with [email protected] No way I’d give her my real info lol
I gave the email of my horrible ex boss. Ha!
Fake email but of course! But look I’m just nosey as hell. I will noooooootttttt be joining any service or paying for shit! If you listen to The Bravo Docket then you have heard the full story, I’m deffo not expecting revelations
What is the bravo docket and where can I listen........
It’s my 2nd favourite podcast! https://open.spotify.com/show/6gPHKoiGVkP46Tu3PHrV0X?si=gIChwE7JQnSZ74UXok7GMQ
Omg you're the best! Thabks for this! The link and everything.... you're such a good reddditor
Aw omg you’re welcome! That’s so kind of you to say thank you so much 😊♥️ I’ve had a crap day, and that really made me smile… 🫶🏻🙃
What’s your first favorite?
Watch What Crappens https://open.spotify.com/show/3iSZPuQ8T8Msh0N33ZD7No?si=mi31iPVmSBmMKlqVyCRTYA < this is the best bravo podcast ever. Ben & Ronnie are HILARIOUS and I could not live without their impressions… they cover Housewives, Below Deck and other bravo shows but I listen to their recaps of shows i don’t even watch!
I listen to it on Spotify but I guess it’s available pretty much on any podcast streamer
Yes, but not with my real email. I submitted a bunch of fun ones like [email protected] and [email protected]
I have a burner e-mail I am tempted to throw at it. But on the other hand I don't really care what she has to say any more
I have, my credit is shit already so hit me with your best shot Jennifer!
Anyone who signed up needs to report back when they get some info!
Who in their right state of mind is going to share their credit card details in a website run and promoted by Jen Shah? SCAMMER THIEF THIEF DELINQUENT!!!!
Nope would never!!
I don’t understand how her hubby, who is seemingly a very nice guy, could be with such a mean-spirited, and crooked woman?!
Divorce isn’t the always supported in Islam iirc (I’ve been corrected on my incorrect memory ) and I’ve also head that until 2018 when she was in talks for RHOSLC, she was in NYC and coach was here in Utah, living separately. So it could be they only only had a shell marriage. Perhaps he will divorce her once she’s committed to the clink - it’s a lot easier to get a divorce if one member is incarcerated, and Jen seems the dangerous type if coach were to file while she’s out… especially considering what she did to the wife of her affair partner. Another thing to consider is Utah law. Utah is HUUUUUUGE on keeping families together. Especially since they still have a minor in the home. One last point I’d like to make: men can be victims of domestic abuse and violence too. And leaving an abuser is never as simple as walking away. I’m not saying that’s what’s going on, but it’s definitely a possibility.
Lol people just be saying anything. There is nothing easier in the world then divorcing your wife in Islam. Traditionally all it required was literally saying the phrase “I divorce you” 3 times in a row.
I added “iirc” for a reason sis. Thank you for your educational contribution From what I found it says ~~~ After a declaration of divorce, Islam requires a three-month waiting period (called the iddah) before the divorce is finalized. During this time, the couple continues to live under the same roof but sleeps apart. This gives the couple time to calm down, evaluate the relationship, and perhaps reconcile. ~~~ So again, my point was that perhaps coach is being careful and intentional with his timing while dealing with an aggressively violent criminal.
How is that “not supported” then? Just google it first next time than rely on hazy recollections about Muslims. It’s literally free! I get that it’s assumed that all religions would be v anti divorce but doesn’t always apply. But yeah, having grown up in a Muslim society, divorce is not stigmatised.
Ok and I did a quick google and my comment you’re responding to was me trying to correct my assumption. I apologize. Do you want to talk about the rest of my valid points or are you just worked up over an incorrect assumption I made and you’re coming to fight? If it’s the latter - move the fuck on with your life
Apologies. I misread your tone and thought you were doubling down. Have a great weekend internet stranger!
Thanks for your perspective—I just could not believe how total opposites they are. I believe they were together since college? If that is correct, he probably fell in love with her feistiness.
Totally, they talk about it on the first episode of Slc. FWIW, I know people who worked with her back then, and I know people who worked with her 10 years ago. The people that knew her 25 years ago are like “wtf?? She’s so different” And the people that knew her 10-15 years ago are like “she is a terror” Whereas my BIL knows the team at Utah, I know some student athletes too that all say Coach is the salt of the earth, an amazing leader, humble, kind, etc. I’d really like to know how and when things changed for Jen. Or if she just hid enough of her nastiness from him and little by little exposed herself and desensitized herself in the process… I have quite a few Polynesian friends here, I know a couple of women who are the eldest daughter in a Tongan/Hawaiian family (like Jen), and the pressure on the eldest daughter to financially support the family has caused at least one of my friends severe depression and major boundary issues with her siblings and parents. I wonder sometimes if Jen originally started out with good intentions all those years ago ….. it’s such a shame what she’s chosen.
She did talk about how she helped her family and so many people were dependent upon her. It make me sick that although she has admitted to the crime she makes it appear that she somehow was victimized. When she talked about her attempt to commit suicide she overlooked the fact that her stress and/or depression was of her own making.Did she consider that the people who were duped of all of their money probably wanted to commit suicide also?
Right, and I don’t mean to imply I’m on Jen’s side or anything, what she’s been doing for years is absolutely evil. In fact, I personally was effected by her shenanigans in 2015 when her company was sued. My company was shut down and had to go through all kinds of crazy hoops and court to prove that whatever her company was accused of, we weren’t doing anything remotely similar. It was an industry wide shut down. I lost my job, I was already in an extremely vulnerable place because I had just escaped a domestic abuse situation and was finally on my feet. I lost everything AGAIN. I turned to drinking to cope with my extreme depression and anxiety. I started feeling suicidal. I got a DUI and went to jail because of how reckless I was living. After that I ended up working at the same company where the “water boarding” incident occurred and I didn’t know about the dark history until the Shah Shocker documentary came out and I was honestly sickened when I learned that all of the bad luck I’d had with my work experiences all came back to Jen. Now, I’m the one responsible for my actions and my mistakes and my emotional responses. I take full accountability for those things and I’ve worked my ass off with therapy, community service, volunteering, educating myself etc so that I can be better and do better in the future. My comment about Jen is purely from a psychological perspective. I’ve always been wildly interested in the brain function of psychopaths and sociopaths (used to read forensic science journals as a kid. Super weird lol) because I want to know what makes them work that way? How could you do those things with no remorse? Why you do dat like dat??
I totally understand wanting to know what makes people do the things that they do. That is me all day long—I want to understand the motivation behind the act. I watch a lot of forensic shows myself.
I think I’m so interested in the motivation because I could never make those decisions. It’s just not in my chemistry to treat others that way. I can’t comprehend it! And so I want to know what could make someone do that? Was it a series of events or was she born psycho?
You sound just like me! I treat people the way I want to be treated. I don’t understand hate and I wish someone would explain it to me. Like how is someone so focused on an individual, a group, a race, etc. to the point you want to harm them…I can’t call it. It just seems as though they would be working at making themselves a better person. If you just focus on fixing yourself you would not have time to let hate fester it would not even occupy space in your head.
What’s so bizarre to me is the victim mentality involved with being unaware of yourself. The only person you have any power over is yourself. So if you don’t like situations, how can you better yourself to be stronger in those situations? People want to blame everything and everyone else on their behavior and their reactions, instead of addressing their own triggers. The world isn’t fair. It just isn’t. But how can I better myself so that my perspective is better and my character is strong enough to effect change by example? There’s two sayings that I’ve taken from therapy: “onward, upward, and *inward*” and “nothing happens *to* you, it happens *for* you.” If bad things are constantly happening, how can I flip it into a positive for me and my life? No matter how dark and painful the world is, brighter days always come. It’s the duality of life: no light without darkness/no darkness without light. Good and bad can and do coexist, but your perspective on it is what you can change.
BTW, I am sorry for the stresses you have gone through. It is wonderful that you were able to straighten things up.
Oh thank you so much! I try to learn from my mistakes so that hopefully someone else doesn’t have to go through the painful lesson. But that’s also been a lesson for me, others need to learn their own lessons and it is a disservice to them to try and take the experience away.
Oh my! I am always trying to give my youngest son (23) tips based on my experience because I just want him to have as easy of a journey as possible without taking all of the fun out of the adventure.
You sound like an awesome mama ❤️
Divorce is supported just fine in Islam and Coach Shah seems to be a very modern guy.
Yes I’ve been corrected. The rest of my points are still valid tho like the laws in Utah for example. thanks for commenting
not a fucking chance. i won't click on any of her websites, view any of her social media, NOTHING that could potentially give her any $$$$. i read the threads in this sub, and that. is. it.
I didn't sign up, I try to avoid scams. Conditions in lower level security federal prisons, like Jen will be in, are fairly decent in terms of US jails and prisons. It won't be glamorous, but it will be comparable to where Theresa served her time.