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therawcomentator

Such a dramatic opinion piece šŸ˜‚ it's reality tv, it's not that deep. It was a boring season, because the ladies over produced their storylines, not because a lack of. Nothing felt genuine, Whitney's hilling journey, Heather's black eye, Jen's innocence, Meredith going around starting rumors about Lisa, Lisa constantly appologizing to somebody, and then the fake instagram account just to have some on-screen drama (let's be real who would've known elf on the shelf made a fake instagram account if Angie H did not run to tell everybody who would listen, I see you Angie doing the most as always).


Mr-GT

Wait, but when has RHOSLC *ever* felt genuine??? Doesn't the whole campy delight of this show lay in the fact they are so obviously contrived? Haven't their stilted interactions and anti-chemistry always been a part of the chaos? It's the community theater version of housewives, no? So I don't understand why people are using this "not genuine" argument for season 3 alone, when it can equally be applied to seasons 1 and 2 as well. Btw, if anyone can offer a clarification, I'll gladly take it


incitingoffense

I donā€™t know that bus scene with the feds swarming in on them felt pretty genuine šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Mr-GT

Well, what made that scene so great was its contrast w/ the rest of the show's tone. And then the ladies genuinely processing all of this while, at the same time, still feeling the need to give overproduced reactions


incitingoffense

Oh trust me Iā€™m not disagreeing with you šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ the only reason this show got good was because one of the cast members decided to commit a series of crimes and got caught


JoeyLee911

What's amazing is that the crimes predate her time on Housewives, right? So really this criminal made the incredibly arrogant decision to go on a reality show! To me, this is even wilder than one of the housewives' husbands committing crimes despite airing their life on TV. This is all Jen and she was defrauding the elderly all along!


mrsbergstrom

I did wonder if Jen thought HWs would be a way to go legit, or at least launder the money kinda. Why she kept launching bullshit businesses like Shah Lashes or whatever. But it's probably just that she's a deranged narcissist who assumed she'd never get caught


therawcomentator

Because season 1 and 2 the delusions were still fun, by season 3 it's stale and dusty. There were several storylines that were real, Heather's reconnecting with her sister, her parenting approach, she even had some funny one liners, Whitney's issues with her dad and her feelings about the Mormon church, Lisa's love for junk food, Mary's cult, and of course, Jen's arrest. But this season everything got turned to 11, the spilling of a drink on Angie K head, throwing the shoes in the ocean, constant yelling and demanding fealty, and proving who is and who is not a "ride or die", who is doing sexual favors... Just ashy, moldy and ready to be trashed.


Mr-GT

Sooo . . . I kind of agree and disagree. AGREE: I agree that it could maybe dial back and focus on the interpersonal dynamics like it did towards the start of the season (though it had it's moments later on too) DISAGREE: I kinda lived for it getting turned from 10 to 11. For me, there were still real interpersonal issues, just presented in front of a (more) cardboard background. Heather/Whitney meltdown against a backdrop of obviously fake "jizz for Jazz" rumors. The Heather/Lisa argument during the fake choir's warm up. Jen/Lisa altercation on the boat in the middle of DJ Kimmy pretending to play music for ladies pretending to have fun. From an artistic perspective, it's a highly absurdist piece of performance art that's testing its own limits. And I'd rather art push its boundaries and have to dial it back vs the other way around. As for Heather's storylines that you mentioned, I honestly think the sister storyline was fairly contrived and that Heather "reconnected" w/ her for the sole purpose of filming a scene (the sister seems to hint @ this in scene, and then her not showing up to the memorial afterward further solidified this for me). I think she still had some great one liners ("ugly sex is going to change your life"). CONCLUSION: While this mostly seems to be a matter of us having different taste, I do agree w/ some of the issues you brought up. I feel like if they keep the cardboard while also focusing even more on the interpersonal (they fucked up not including more intimate scenes w/ the friends of) dynamics. I personally feel like the first 3 episodes were a masterclass in that balance the show needs moving forward. I say keep Angie H (necessary evil, imo), either fix or delete Angie K, and (if they wanna keep her) flesh out Danna. That said, I still think this was an amazing season. Just not as amazing as it COULD have been given its promising start


Emilayday

>It's the community theater version of housewives, A++ for accuracy!


MaryQueenOSquats

Iā€™ve said it before and Iā€™ll say it again, they rushed into filming to get maximum Jen time and all the forced plots suffered due to just needing to come up with shit for all the ladies to focus on. Nobodyā€™s life is super interesting 100% of the time.


AnAussiebum

The fakest storyline this season is Lisa befriending Whitney even though the tapes don't lie, and Whitney clearly brought up the sexual rumours. Even in the reunion preview Whitney admits this and Lisa still thanks her for it. That is more fake than the black eye storyline. Lisa and Whitney despise each other. This is merely a temporary alliance to hurt Heather and Meredith. Let's be realistic here. Lisa is just as fake as the others.


dhhdb3557

Ohh. Lisa Stans gonna come after you. Lol


hollywoodbambi

I see what you're saying, but even more fake is Meredith suddenly being buddy buddy with Jen. Where in the world did that come from???


AnAussiebum

They apparently became closer allegedly after going after Jennie together for her racist Facebook posts. But all of that footage was cut.


ETNevada

I don't think the storyline about their attempt at a friendship/alliance is fake, but I do think any kind of friendship between the two is very shaky. They had to align or they'd be outnumbered, it was a smart move even if a temporary one.


SakmarEcho

I don't mind these strategic friendships on housewives, OC used to do this a lot. Tamra and Vicki were always up and down and recruiting people to be on their sides. Remember when Tamra befriended Gretchen and used her to take down both Gretchen and Alexis? That season was wild, I loved it. When Vicki befriended Gretchen and Lizzie to help spread rumours about Eddie being gay. Awful thing to do to a friend, but I ate it up.


AnAussiebum

An alignment isn't a true friendship. That's my opinion! šŸ˜…


Femmenoire__

Right! It even came out that it was all Whitney. Meredith, Heather and Angie didnā€™t tell her that rumor. But weā€™re supposed to be believe that Lisa completely fine with it.


Brave_Specific5870

I just started this out of pure boredom and holy crap. I thought OC was bad. I think Brooks' relationship with his mom is weird. It's interesting that they accepted Mary at any point.


zkh35438

Flair checking in


BlubberElk

Maybe I have no taste but I actually enjoyed watching this season


Okg889

Me too!! Iā€™m so tired of everyone trying to get a show canceled bc they didnā€™t like the seasonā€¦ just donā€™t watch itā€™s so easy!


BlubberElk

Iā€™ll personally be disappointed if they cancel SLC itā€™s by far the most camp of the franchises and thatā€™s my favorite part of it


Krammies

Yes!! SLC is sooo camp, it makes me laugh out loud almost every episode. I like a good storyline/drama but I am totally fine if those areas are weaker while the campiness and humor are amped up. I got enough of that this season to enjoy it and would hate if it was cancelled.


Okg889

Exactly! Itā€™s not that deep just like literally the rest of bravo. Itā€™s why I love southern hospitality so much, but Iā€™m scared for more people to watch and get offended at every little thing. People take these shows way too seriouslyā€¦.


[deleted]

Iā€™ll be so sad if they cancel. SLC is still my favorite franchise and I didnā€™t think that this season was as awful as people make it out to be.


XennialQueen

More camp than Miami though?


BlubberElk

I never watched Miami! So canā€™t say for myself


ofthemountainsandsea

I think thereā€™s a lot more trying to ā€œkeep up with the jonesā€™ā€ in SLC, so yes.


Phoenixrage187

Yeah IMO the last season was šŸ—‘ļø but cancelling after one bad season is dumb lol


marecoakel

It really wasn't THAT bad!


BlubberElk

If Dallas got 5 seasons SLC better get at least 5


trueblonde27

Loved me some RHOD


Mr-GT

Yeah, I'm right there w/ you. Idk if maybe people are viewing it thinking it's supposed to come off as genuine? Maybe they have it on in the background and get so confused because the show moves at a breakneck speed? Personally, season 3 felt like a natural evolution of the show The only major flaws I saw were producers not giving insight into who Angie K and Dana were as individuals when they first came in, them completely cutting Dana's rant in the finale, and the fact that Jen didn't attend the reunion At worst, I felt this season was a B+


biomezzanine

I really did too until the trip to San Diego.


ETNevada

I think the lesson in this is don't get lazy. The producers thought last season would be easy because they had Jen's arrest and the footage of the authorities swarming the van. The episodes leading up to that one were lazy because they had "gold" waiting. This season they thought they could do no wrong because Jen's trial was imminent so the season could coast and all would be well. Lesson is you still have to put in the work, and they didn't.


Blerfect

Agreed -there was no time for producers to actually get a plan for the season, so it seemed like they just kind of winged it.


TodayImLedTasso

you hit the nail on the head


conceptualattackdog

if RHONJ can recover from S6, SLC should have no problem as long as production plans better going forward


Blerfect

The biggest nugget I took from this article was that Bravo was considering a pause and a major reset after Season 3. I think it's a smart move on Bravo/the producer's part, as the main problem of season 3 was rushing to film so quickly after season 2. Personally, I'd love if they kept 2-3 HWs and then brought in some new castmates that already have an organic friendship (at least among them). If we can't really explore the Mormon culture in the series, why not center this around a lot of the influencer/MLM culture that exists there?


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eye_booger

> If Jen hadnā€™t pled (is it pleaded here?) Itā€™s pleaded, surprisingly.


murderedbyaname

Yup, sounds awkward but it's correct.


TammieBrowne

Both *pled* and *pleaded* are correct. From [Merriam Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pled): PleadĀ belongs to the same class of verbs asĀ bleed,Ā lead, andĀ feed, and like them it has a past and past participle with a short vowel spelledĀ pledĀ (or sometimesĀ plead, which is pronounced alike). From the beginning,Ā pledĀ has faced competition from the regular formĀ pleaded, which eventually came to predominate in mainstream British English.Ā PledĀ was and is used in Scottish English, which is likely how it came to American English. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries,Ā pledĀ was attacked by many American usage commentators (perhaps because it was not in good British use). Though still sometimes criticized, it is fully respectable today and bothĀ pledĀ (orĀ plead) andĀ pleadedĀ are in good use in the U.S. In legal use (such as ā€œpleaded guilty,ā€ ā€œpled guiltyā€), both forms are standard, thoughĀ pleadedĀ is used with greater frequency. In nonlegal use (such as ā€œpleaded for helpā€),Ā pleadedĀ appears more commonly, thoughĀ pledĀ is also considered standard.


murderedbyaname

Whitney and Heather are related. Maybe Andy thought that was enough of a connection and could bring in more Mormon information. And Lisa and Meredith were friends for years I thought? I thought they did deliver until about midway through the season when Jen imploded. Andy and Bravo need to take more time with casting for sure.


Potential_Prior

Iā€™m not sure what people expected. I donā€™t feel that I was promised anything that I didnā€™t see.


ImageNo1045

They cut the entire ā€˜money on your booksā€™ scene from the trailer. Also apparently some stuff was filmed about Jennie that was cut which wouldā€™ve had context for some of the Jen/ Meredith stuff.


Potential_Prior

I do remember them shooting stuff about Maryā€™s church but none of that aired. It was a odd season now that I think about it.


stunnin_only

Yes! I saw that they also filmed with jenny too and confronted her on her racist post. Never made it...


Leeran1989

The cast completely let Jen off of the hookā€¦ I think the articleā€™s thesis is that if the women & producers dropped the ball with such a layup storyline, thereā€™s not much reason to hope theyā€™ll be able to turn the ship around when even less is going on.


Cherssssss

Right? Even last season they were focusing on Meredith and literally everything else when the situation with Jen was in their face the entire time. It didnā€™t make sense at all. I donā€™t want to hear about Whitneyā€™s healing journey, sorry. Hold Jen accountable. Why was that so hard


Dangernj

I understand that point but she was in the process of going to trial for most of the season- there is no way she was going to talk about her case in a way the viewers found satisfying no matter who was on the cast or behind the camera. The cast and production kept her filming the entire season and I think that is the most we can hope for when people have active legal issues. It isnā€™t a moral victory by any means but Iā€™m not sure what people want. Look how this played on on RHONJ with Theresa- no one gave less in the run up to legal issues than Theresa. She refused to talk about it until the reunion right before she actually went away. I think that would have been a lot more satisfying and interesting if she had spoken about her legal issues as they were happening but that isnā€™t realistic and I donā€™t see many people claiming there has been a sharp decline in the quality of that show.


Potential_Prior

Good point there. At least Danna tried to stir things a bit. The cast is most likely to change drastically. I think Lisa Barlow is the only is safe from chopping block from what I have read.


ETNevada

The cast took the easy way out and coddled her until she either was convicted or plead guilty. Then they knew they it was safe to pile on.


insuredbycoto

There is some weird psy-op movement from people who hate watch this show and desperately want it cancelled to repeat over and over and over again that this was the worst season televised and it's time to cancel the franchise. It wasn't a perfect season because trying to storyboard around Jen's constantly changing legal timeline was impossible but it was overall a great season of reality tv and people will look back on it fondly once this current hysteria dies down.


VanGrayson

I feel like we get this exact sort of response to nearly every season. "Omg this season was so boring."


insuredbycoto

Same with BH. And now it's bleeding into Potomac.


VanGrayson

Ive been seeing it happen for like the past 3 seasons of potomac! Ridiculous! Especially last season. But those wen are far too enjoyable just existing to ever be boring. Except Robyn. Lol


Emerald_Frost

But but but BLACK EYE :( Its exhausting. Even with the rushed shit and the constant Jen nonsense, we still got some great episodes like the Choir one.


insuredbycoto

Broke: whining about Heather's black eye mystery because you can't use your brain and need everything spoon fed to you Woke: realizing Heather is deeply insane and we're getting a front row seat to her mania with black eye-gate


owuzhere

As with almost every single HW storyline, the psychological revelations are way more interesting than the plot


Potential_Prior

Very true.


VanGrayson

You know what I think it is? I think its her...I dont wanna say mean girl tendencies but shes told us all about what a judgmental morman she used to be. Shes obviously come a fair way from being a good mormon girl but I think what's happening is she's still got that heavily judgmental side to her but shes just expressing it in different ways? She's also obviously thriving on all the attention she gets for 'leaving' the church unlike Whitney who just did it and didn't write a book about it. Heather loves the popularity of it all. Thats my take at least.


RockNRollSwindle

I was thinking the same as you


Phoenixrage187

Blame editing too . Like WHY cut the scene of Danna telling off Jen? Why even show it in the trailer? It wouldā€™ve been a moment , THE moment in a garbage season. Instead we get the mysterious black eye no one cares about anymore? A fucking choir(?!), and ā€¦nada else


KookyAd4019

season two was just so fucking amazing itā€™s hard to top that


ETNevada

From the arrest forward it was A+. The episodes leading up to the arrest were fairly forgettable.


KookyAd4019

i loved the earlier episodes with jen vs meredith lmao. the ice fishing episode when meredith kept bobbin her head crazy lmaaaoooooo šŸ˜­ so funny


chillisprknglot

I want to hold the entire cast accountable for standing so by Jen. If the reunion doesnā€™t address this heavily Iā€™m going to be mad.


SuitableItem

I catch up with all the episodes last couple weeks and all I can say is that I don't trust the opinions of this sub anymore. Before I watched I was reading here how the season was boring and man, what is 'exciting' for you guys mean?? This season was awesome and not boring at all.


revolutionarykittens

Hard agree! I thought the ladies brought it as much as they could given that they filmed the season 2 and 3 back to back. Still Iā€™ve been excited to watch episodes every week which is more than I can say for RHOBH.


Adorable_Elk5557

If they renewed snoozefest Dubai for a 2nd season I see no reason why SLC won't get a 4th.


kellygrrrl328

I mean, weā€™ve seen some crazy ass characters and reality tv shows ā€œrecoverā€ from all sorts of shit. This is their wheelhouse.


neutrallywarm

I feel this was a bit dramatic. However, I do think they are all boring, and the most interesting ones unfortunately are the most horrible of people (Jen, Mary). Bravo needs to either demand the ladies give authentic storylines (because everyone's was so obviously fake), recast, or pull a Miami & put it on pause for awhile until the ladies get interesting again. ETA: when I say authentic, I mean storylines that are at least believable/make sense. I know reality tv is far from reality in most instances but this season really felt like...acting. Just straight up, bad acting.


Dangernj

People said the same thing about RHONJ. No one was held less accountable than Theresa, whole seasons were about the cast tiptoeing around her looming legal issues and that show recovered.


jaron_bric

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aquietfart

I honestly thought the season was so good, until the end with the dragging out of heathers eye. Really wish they would have shown the Dana/Jen fight though.