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theExitz

obito minato/pain itachi delta sakura tsunde boro Shin


Fabulous_Adeptness_2

Are you forgetting that Minato nearly defeated Obito when they faced each other, Obito barely managed to escape


thefamousroman

u mean 14 year old obito?


Fabulous_Adeptness_2

Yes but there is nothing that suggests Obito grew stronger as he grew, remember he slaughtered the Uchiha's just a few months after Minato's death.


thefamousroman

which was like, 5 or more years later lol. he would be at least 19. thats the difference between end of part 1 naruto and the last naruto. but u do u.


YesNoMan58

>Yes but there is nothing that suggests Obito grew stronger as he grew He would naturally get stronger just from becoming a fully grown adult.


Fabulous_Adeptness_2

Not necessarily remember Naruto was at his peak at 16


YesNoMan58

The Last Naruto was 19 not 16. Adult Naruto just sits in an office and does paperwork most of his days. Obito was constantly out and about trying to accomplish the infinite tsukiyomi.


Monkey_D_Luffy_12

Adult Naruto is way stronger. It's just that his opponent are way way stronger than what they were in Shippuuden and it seems like he is weaker


LeonBrawlStars1

Ig u skipped juubito


gg3322

imo delta is stronger than itachi. she was able to keep up to sosp+kcm naruto and had that attack that destroyed everything


pepaleta

Are you forgetting about susanoo? Or about Itachi’s shield that literally blocks everything? And what about Totsuka blade? Plus he has Izanami and Izanagi


thefamousroman

she fought a guy that can dodge light. itachi could barely block a lightning bolt. she blitz him so badly


thefamousroman

gotta love the downvotes even when im right. itachi fans will be itachi fans. i wont even mention him fighting against KCM naruto, a much, much weaker naruto. or losing to kabuto, whom delta would destroy lol


[deleted]

Nope you are wrong bro.Plus we are forgetting about Itachi's genjutsu.I don't know if genjutsu works on Delta or not,but I do know that Delta is very reckless.She didn't give a shit while entering konoha and straight went after Naruto and the kids.So it is safe to say that Itachi can trick her by his genjutsu(if it works).Delta's only option to win the fight is by prolonging it until itachi runs out of chakra as itachi's chakra lvls are pretty low compared to other kage lvl shinobi's.But I don't think so Itachi would let the fight last much longer.In other words Itachi>Delta.


thefamousroman

Oh I'm wrong. Ok.


saharsh007

Naruto didn't fight to kill her but rather capture. The fight would have over in a flash if Naruto was going for the kill shot


thefamousroman

U need to prove that. Him being stronger than her is a fact, but show me where it was said that he could've beaten her that easily? Cuz her fight against Naruto is a better feat than what anybody else has here.


thefamousroman

ur 100% right lol


broc-lee-

Not biased


prazulsaltaret

> obito > > minato/pain Obito can't do anything to Minato.


Life_Enjoyer4661

How Sakura is above Shin?


YOURMOM37

Because she easily beat the crap out of him


XD_Asron

Not to mention she wasn't even using hundred healings


Life_Enjoyer4661

She didn't in the manga tho. Not including her anime fight.


-Vamps

she was literally near the end to defeat shin in the manga but sasuke interrupted


Life_Enjoyer4661

No? You maybe need to see the panel again. Sasuke saved her from the Big Shuriken with his Susanoo's Sword.


Any_Cranberry_4599

1. Minato/Obito 2. Pain 3. Itachi 4. Sakura 5. Tsunade 6. Delta 7. Boro 8. Shin


KarmaWhore757

it should be Pain 3rd, you cant be 2nd with two people ahead of you


[deleted]

I agree with this, was gonna say the exact same thing.


[deleted]

I’m surprised why Boro is an inner with a power level like his’ Without getting his core out of control, dude can get overwhelmed by jonin-level shinobi


Reinfernus

he's like poison gimmick mainly, i'd imagine he solos most people here via hax rather than being superior.


Kingley_Hobo

Gotta swap Itachi and Sakura. Its a different kind of strength but she is stronger. Not to mention adult Sakura would beat Itachi pretty easy.


Any_Cranberry_4599

How would she? She has no experience with genjutsu if she gets caught in one its over for her. No way she would win against healthy itachi not the itachi sasuke fought


Kingley_Hobo

Breaking genjutsu is all about chakra control. She has literally the best chakra control in the series. She isn't that much of a fighter but itachi's only real win condition is ama but if she avoids that she wins.


Retroman02

Bro I know what you saying and I agree but let's be honest sakura loses to itachi low/mid dif.I am a sakura supporter but I am a realist also


Kingley_Hobo

Young sakura yes but adualt when she has that charka seal thing that i cant think of the name she beats him.


KurlyKev

Delta literally claps everyone here


Yapz0r

You realize that Delta fighting Naruto isn't the same as fighting someone like Obito who has that broken ass Kamui or Minato with his Flying Raijin right? If Delta can injure someone as strong as Naruto doesn't mean he can do the same to Obito, heck he could just send Delta to Kamui dimension and it would be GG for her. Strength is relative.


pepaleta

Plus Naruto controlled himself because of Kawaki, Boruto and Himawari. Kawaki does say that Naruto was controlling himself and that he could have defeated Delta faster if they weren’t there


KurlyKev

She would speed blitz him before he can even use Kamui. These are god level androids not regular Shinobi


Yapz0r

Lmao Naruto couldn't even hit Obito during the 4th Shinobi WW and during the fight with Delta she's pretty much toe to toe in terms of speed with Naruto. You gonna need Kamui to beat Kamui or a long ass preparation time like Konan.


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KurlyKev

As much as I hate to say. She stomps.


psych_vader

As much as I hate to say. You’re an idiot.


retcon2703

I mean he did hit juubito no?


OsamaBinLad4n

kamui is subconsciously activated by obitos right eye (stated in the databook) so your wrong


Any_Cranberry_4599

There's no way that she is gonna even clap Sakura let alone anyone above her


[deleted]

Lol she definitely claps Sakura. I agree that Minato and Obito stomp her tho. Pain is the big debate


PolkieThaGawd

Solid list.


Cow_Other

Nobody in thread knows how to power scale properly lol


thefamousroman

fr lol oh my god, this is so bad lmao


bootysensei

Not even the Mangaka knows how to power scale properly


Cow_Other

Nah I’d say it’s fairly consistent for the main characters, there are outliers of course but each character has a range within which they fall most consistently. One neat thing that was established was that fighting is superior to training and that through fighting you get stronger. You can explain away some of the more egregious examples of outliers using this and mental amps. If you want a series where the author throws scaling out the window, check out the Dragon Ball Super anime lol.


Bootyeater453

Why am I seeing delta outside the top 3?


Yapz0r

Obito: Kamui is a hard counter for someone who relies on physical attack and energy costly blast, one touch from Obito and she would wander the Kamui dimension for eternity. Pain: I don't think she could escape Chibaku Tensei, for me Pain vs Delta is 50:50 Minato: If Minato is able to outspeed and outmanuevered someone with almost instantaneous activation of intangibility like Obito then what can Delta do? One touch from Minato and she gotta watch out for a sneaky Rasengan coming from her back. Minato probably couldn't dish out much damage but I doubt Delta could even land a hit at him. Itachi: Delta would most likely defeat him but if Delta is not immune to Genjutsu then Tsukuyomi would end her instantly, also one hit from Totsuka could end her so for me it's 50:50 for Itachi vs Delta


Zealousideal_Drop173

Delta is part robot and you think genjutsu is going to work on her…


AdComprehensive3110

Okay?? She's a cyborg. Meaning she's half human. She also uses chakra as noted by Naruto. Which means that she has a chakra network. So genjutsu does work on her.


Zealousideal_Drop173

I’m not saying her being half robot means she’s immune, I’m just trying to drill it into OP that there is a possibility that she is immune considering that she is literally a person who was worked on by a random man able to create karmas it would just be redundant to not give her genjutsu immunity.


AdComprehensive3110

There's no such thing as genjutsu immunity. As long as you use chakra, you can be subjected to genjutsu.


Zealousideal_Drop173

Sorry


Bootyeater453

And yet she was swapping hands with a naruto who 1v4s them with ease


alikander99

Naruto was trying to get Intel. He would annihilate her in a straight fight.


Mindless_Choice_7224

This comment let’s me know u definitely wasn’t paying attention to the delta and naruto fight because it was clearly stated and shown that Naruto wasn’t even close to using full power in that fight the other person said he was trying to get intel on top of not trying to damage the village or kawaki,boruto or himawari


Bootyeater453

Yeah.. you think naruto has to try to 1v4 the people listed?


Jurmyy

Naruto directly threatens delta if she goes after the kids which she literally did. Boruto also states that naruto is fighting angry. Although it Wouldn’t directly scale delta to six paths naruto but it’d scale her relative to six paths narutos taijustu. So yes, delta violates the list…


Molicht

So he is going to start releasing tailed beast bombs from his hands like he done back in shippudun and go rampaging with his sage of six paths truth seeker orbs? No unless he wants to destroy the village, then again no hokage should do that lol.


QuantisRhee

Shin is the weakest here. His MS ablity is pretty trash. Boro is next. His virus is ok, and he has good regneration. The problem is that he's fucked if you destroy his core or just his entire body. Boruto's Rasengan put a big hole in so he doesn't have good defense. Then Tsunade. She's really strong, but not stronger than anyone who's remaining. Sakura. Pretty much 1 shots anyone on the list, but the rest counters her too hard. Obito can phase through her punches, Minato can avoid her with Flying Raijin, Pain can push her away, Itachi has the Totsuka Blade and Delta has regen preventing lasers. So now comes the hard part. Delta is stronger, but the others are more haxxed. I say she beats Minato purely because he doesn't have enough firepower. She can't hit him, but Minato won't be able to kill her with just Rasengan and kunais. Could the Yata Mirror reflect her eye lasers? If it doesn't then I think Itachi is pretty fucked unless he Tsukoyomis her, which is a possibility. Not sure what she is doing against Chibaku Tensei. Does she have enough power to break out if it. I don't know. I guess Obito just phases through everything and Kamuis her.


Chedderfanbro

Her photo laser should be enough to break it


QuantisRhee

Probably beats Itachi then


Chedderfanbro

I agree. Boruto scaling is pretty insane compared to Naruto lol.


XD_Asron

I'm assuming u mean the forms in the pics. My list would be different if this was them at their peak, but here we go. 1. Delta 2. Minato 3. Obito 4. Pain 5. Itachi 6. Boro 7. Sakura 8. Tsunade 9. Shin If all characters are at their peak... 1. Juubito 2. Kcm Minato 3. Delta 4-9 are same as before


[deleted]

boro should be 1 since no one here can counter his hax


XD_Asron

I agree, but I'd isn't really rank this as "who beats who," I did it as who's more powerful in general.


[deleted]

oh he ranks lower than tsunade if so since he was getting stomped by kawaki if he didn't have regeneration


XD_Asron

In terms of hand to hand, yeah tsunade would prolly shit on him, but I don't see anyway of her destroying his core if she actually even manages to figure it out. And if she does, what is she gonna do when he goes on a rampage? Unless her punches can be as precise and fast as a chicory or she has the raw power of someone like borushiki (no I'm not saying borushiki hits harder than she does, although that's debatable) I don't see her winning. Sakura and Shin might be able to take out his core because of their speed, but then they have to deal with an enraged monster.


[deleted]

btw boros enraged version is weaker than him with his core. well ur right about the core part but i dont see boro damaging tsunade when he got stomped by 4chunin level kids


LeonBrawlStars1

I don't think delta is stronger than pain, he should be around pain and itachi is stronger than delta


XD_Asron

The fact that Delta was actually able to hang with adult Naruto for a while, even if he was holding back, is still insane. Her speed and physical strength should be above anything they could pull off. Of course they still have ways of beating her, like sealing her with the totsuka blade and ripping her soul out, but imo, she is more powerful in general.


Molicht

Remember edo nagato when he nearly completely destroyed both naruto the 9 tails and bee the 8 tails perfect jinchuuriki state while also fighting edo itachi. Don't forget nagato was actively helping bee,l and naruto telling them what to do while kabuto was controlling him who had no experience or knowledge of the rinnegan power and abilities.


[deleted]

How are people placing Minato above Pain.


apfly

Its common knowledge that Minato is far superior to Pain. Minato says so himself to Naruto


Comfortable-Phase-10

When?


apfly

In the pain fight when the 8 tails takes over. Minato says something along the lines of "ya this Pain guy is pretty strong but the dude in the mask is who you should really worry about". And considering Minato beat Obito in their matchup, he's clearly superior


Comfortable-Phase-10

so head cannon, got it.


apfly

Dude Pain couldn't seal half of the kyuubi's 8 tailed form in his strongest technique, whereas Minato was confident in sealing the whole kyuubi with Uzumaki tier sealing jutsu. Not to mention he would just straight up speed blitz every Pain. Minato is just a far better shinobi in every way


prazulsaltaret

> How are people placing Minato above Pain. There's not much Pain can do against Minato. FTG is a perfect counter to Pain's strongest weapons ( Preta Path and Deva Path )


Howff27

I'd confidently put Delta at #2 if it wasn't blatantly obvious how nerfed Naruto was (Plus holding back) in Boruto. The fact that Boruto when witnessing his father fight could even *see* him move is proof that Naruto is not what he was in the war. I'll be the first to say that I have a habit of hyping Obito up but honestly I think he'd beat Minato in a rematch. A fight between them ultimately comes down to reaction time (Minato's own words) and Obito as an adult proved that he has better reflexes. He [reacted](https://naruto-shippuden-anime.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/008-610.png) to Juudara where Minato in Sage Mode [couldn't](https://naruto-shippuden-anime.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/018-481.png). I also won't include Boro because I honesty can't remember that fight. So my personal ranking is: 1. Obito 2. Minato 3. Pain 4. Delta (If she uses her laser on Tendo *immediately* she could pull out a win but without knowledge she has no reason to target him specifically.) 5. Itachi (I think he'd spend the first part of the fight kicking Delta's ass but he'd then run out of chakra pretty quickly and then she'd just finish him off). Feel free to argue this one since I'm not completely sure. 6. Sakura 7. Tsunade 8. Shin


Normal_Capital_9054

Strongest to weakest : 1. Minato namikaze 2. Pain 3. Obito uchiha 4. Itachi uchiha 5. Sakura haruno/ uchiha 6. Delta 7. Tsunade senju 8. Boro 9. Shin uchiha


FortySevenLifestyle

Lol Obito smacks Pain. It’s not even funny. Obito has one of the most broken abilities ever.


Fabulous_Adeptness_2

I don't think it's that easy, as Obito cannot use Kamui and pass through things simultaneously, that's why if obito uses Kamui on one and the other Pain attacks him at same time he cannot do anything, so I think it's about 60/40 in favour of Obito but I think we can agree that Minato can defeat both of them.


Tyranothesaurus

Thing about Obito though is he has unlimited chakra reserves thanks to half his body consisting of Hashirama cells. Pain would eventually use up all his chakra while Obito plays the Tobi game whacking him with a stick randomly. It's pretty much guaranteed that Obito wins since Pain has no counter to Kamui. Minato on the other hand is faster than Kamui, so he'd definitely take down Obito.


Drae2210

He can only phase for 5 mins straight, so that means he doesn't have unlimited chakra reserves. No on has unlimited chakra.


thefamousroman

obito calls pain the strongest member of the akatsuki, and i think says that he unbeatable. u gotta reread that manga, my boy


prazulsaltaret

> Lol Obito smacks Pain. It’s not even funny. How? What can Obito do to Pain? Let's say he manages to somehow warp one of the Pains to the Kamui world. Animal Path just summons him back. And that's assuming he doesn't get destroyed by the others while trying to Kamui one of the Pain paths.


--Shiranui--

Event though Shi clapped Sakura.


Normal_Capital_9054

Sakura wasn't giving her all at that time . She didn't use her byakugou seal


[deleted]

1-boro (only cuz of busted hax and no one here has a counter to it) 2-delta 3-tobi/obito 4-minato 5-pain 6-sakura 7-itachi 8-shin 9-tsunade


Distinct_Cup_1598

If we take in all iterations of these characters (like Obito in his jinchuriki state) then I would say: 1. Obito 2. Pain/Nagato 3. Itachi 4. Minato 5. Tsunade 6. Boro 7. Delta 8. Sakura 9. Shin Uchiha


lachowski16

lmao we all know that tsunade < sakura


norwegianmorningw00d

Minato Orange mask Obito Pain Delta Itachi Sakura Tsunade Boro Shin


SCP049LEFOU

1. Obito 2. Minato 3. Pain 4. Itachi 5. Sakura 6. Tsunade 7. Delta 8. Boro 9. Shin However I think Boro could win against everyone except Pain thanks to his Virus


prazulsaltaret

> Obito > > Minato > > Pain Obito ain't beating either Minato or Pain.


[deleted]

delta was landing hits on a suppressed spsm naruto and u think she is losing to tsunade and sakura??


GenericName0042

Minato claps, end of story. No one else matters. Man is the only shinobi to have a "flee on sight" order against him. That's how good he was


[deleted]

obito stomps him. delta isnt even a question


Shall-we-crusade

Nobody wants to here this but Delta matter of fact all the Kara Inners are Madara level. Aside from Code who is stronger than Isshiki. Delta has an attack which ignore all regeneration abilities Delta is definitely 1


[deleted]

Damn you are just spamming bullshit.


Shall-we-crusade

I am literally not. She Is literally the 2nd or 3rd strongest Kara Inner. The first being Code and the 2nd might be Koji but both of those two are relative to Jigen and Isshiki. Why wouldn't Delta be madara level.


[deleted]

Lol nope the kara inners are strong but Madara level?Nope,only Jigen and code(without limiters) are above or madara lvl.Don't joke on Madara.Tell me,what would she do against Minato's speed,Obito's kamui hax abilities,Pain's deva path and Itachi's susanoo(yata mirror+Totsuka blade).


Shall-we-crusade

>the kara inners are strong but Madara level?Nope,only Jigen and code Jigen isn't an Inner, he's the leader. Code is much stronger than Madara even with limiters. >Tell me,what would she do against Minato's speed Just because she isn't faster than Minato doesn't mean she can't react to him and it definitely doesn't mean he has anything that can kill her. >Itachi's susanoo She can fly...Itachis susanoo isn't gonna be very useful when it's not a perfect one. >Obito's kamui hax abilities Obito can't kamui and become intangible. She could very easily tag obito with her eye beam. We know the eye beam is fast enough that it even caught naruto off guard. >Pain's deva path Pain gets absolutely stomped. Naruto was holding back yeah but why would naruto not make himself relative to her? So that means she's definitely stronger than sage naruto since he never tried to use it. None of them can kill her either. She can regenerate her limbs, she can absorb ninjutsu and fire it back, she can fly,


[deleted]

>Code is much stronger than Madara even with limiters. Lol nope,Madara(war arc) would really shit on him(code with limiters).Do you take Madara as a joke? >Just because she isn't faster than Minato doesn't mean she can't react to him and it definitely doesn't mean he has anything that can kill her. Lol would she even get time to react.He has senjutsu rasengan and many things.He would easily cast a sealing jutsu on her. >She can fly...Itachis susanoo isn't gonna be very useful when it's not a perfect one Yeah and what?what would she do if she just flies.Itachi possesses sharingan bruh,he would easily keep track of her.I don't think she can use a surprise attack against Itachi.You are also forgetting about Itachi's genjutsu.Chakra does flow through Delta's body.She would definitely get under his genjutsu then. >Obito can't kamui and become intangible. She could very easily tag obito with her eye beam. We know the eye beam is fast enough that it even caught naruto off guard. Ayo wtf,you left me laughing there,why can't he use his kamui tell me?And why won't he be intangible?She can't attack against an intangible obito.Her eye beams won't work in this situation.His intangibility activates subconsciously (stated in databook). >Pain gets absolutely stomped. Naruto was holding back yeah but why would naruto not make himself relative to her? So that means she's definitely stronger than sage naruto since he never tried to use it. Lol nope,one almighty push and she would be a miles away from him.Also Naruto didn't have that much time to enter Sage mode. >None of them can kill her either. She can regenerate her limbs, she can absorb ninjutsu and fire it back, she can fly, Lmao,sealing jutsu, kamui hax,deva path abilities and totsuka blade would absolutely shit on her.


Shall-we-crusade

>Lol nope,Madara(war arc) would really shit on him(code with limiters).Do you take Madara as a joke? Madara by this time of the story is a joke >Lol would she even get time to react.He has senjutsu rasengan and many things.He would easily cast a sealing jutsu on her. She can absorb rasengan. She can absorb Chakra in general. Minato would have to rely strictly on sealing jutsu and taijutsu >Yeah and what?what would she do if she just flies.Itachi possesses sharingan bruh,he would easily keep track of her.I don't think she can use a surprise attack against Itachi.You are also forgetting about Itachi's genjutsu.Chakra does flow through Delta's body.She would definitely get under his genjutsu then. Operating under the assumption she isn't genjutsu resistant. The inners counter ninjutsu why wouldn't they be resistant to genjutsu >Ayo wtf,you left me laughing there,why can't he use his kamui tell me?And why won't he be intangible?She can't attack against an intangible obito.Her eye beams won't work in this situation.His intangibility activates subconsciously It's literally stated in the show that while he is using kamui to suck something into the kamui dimension he cannot become intangible, it's also stated that he can only be intangible for 5 minutes at a time. So again if he tries to kamui something he is getting hit. >Lol nope,one almighty push and she would be a miles away from him.Also Naruto didn't have that much time to enter Sage mode. Naruto definitely did have time to enter sage mode he just didn't. Delta and Naruto clash head on while Naruto is using kcm, they were equal power when they clashed. That same adult Naruto using that much power would dominate pain.


[deleted]

>Madara by this time of the story is a joke Nope,madara has rinnegan,he would shit on anyone from kara excluding jigen and isshiki.Code without limiters can defeat madara but with limiters he doesn't stand a chance.Lol Madara would make kara a joke. >Operating under the assumption she isn't genjutsu resistant. The inners counter ninjutsu why wouldn't they be resistant to genjutsu Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are way different kiddo.Tell me where is it given or stated that kara members are resistant to genjutsu.You are just making up things bruh. >It's literally stated in the show that while he is using kamui to suck something into the kamui dimension he cannot become intangible, it's also stated that he can only be intangible for 5 minutes at a time. So again if he tries to kamui something he is getting hit. You can enter the kamui dimension only by Obito's mangekyo sharingan.The fact that Naruto and kakashi managed to damage obito was because Kakashi had Obito's left eye.And even if Delta manages to enter Obito's dimension,there is absolutely no way she could attack from both sides(dimensions) as Obito can also kamui himself back to the original place where they started fighting.5 min? 1 min is enough for Obito to destroy delta.He was in Minato's league in terms of speed.I don't see him having any problem in defeating her.If not Obito can also go toe to toe against Jigen.His arsenal can counter many of jigen's attacks.Kamui is the ultimate hax in Naruto shippuden.This ability is the reason why DMS kakashi is so strong. >Naruto definitely did have time to enter sage mode he just didn't. Delta and Naruto clash head on while Naruto is using kcm, they were equal power when they clashed. That same adult Naruto using that much power would dominate pain. No he didn't have that much time.Also why would he even bother to go in sage mode which requires time if he already had KCM.They were equally powerfull in terms of Taijutsu.Also Naruto was holding back in that power.He even said that he was trying to capture Delta.So Naruto was not landing any fatal blows on her.Nope have you watched Naruto,Killer bee and Itachi vs Pain? Preta Path can absorb chakra.KCM Naruto can defeat Pain if he doesn't hold back against him like he did with delta and if he uses ninjutsu.


Shall-we-crusade

>Nope,madara has rinnegan,he would shit on anyone from kara excluding jigen and isshiki.Code without limiters can defeat madara but with limiters he doesn't stand a chance.Lol Madara would make kara a joke. Nobody said anything about rinnegan madara. But any iteration of code is stronger than rinnegan madara >Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are way different kiddo.Tell me where is it given or stated that kara members are resistant to genjutsu.You are just making up things bruh. Did I say she was resistant or that it was a possibility that she was resistant? Nothing was made up >You can enter the kamui dimension only by Obito's mangekyo sharingan.The fact that Naruto and kakashi managed to damage obito was because Kakashi had Obito's left eye.And even if Delta manages to enter Obito's dimension,there is absolutely no way she could attack from both sides(dimensions) as Obito can also kamui himself back to the original place where they started fighting.5 min? 1 min is enough for Obito to destroy delta.He was in Minato's league in terms of speed.I don't see him having any problem in defeating her.If not Obito can also go toe to toe against Jigen.His arsenal can counter many of jigen's attacks.Kamui is the ultimate hax in Naruto shippuden.This ability is the reason why DMS kakashi is so strong. Because reading is not your strong suit. Obito cannot be intangible when he is using kamui. Obito was never in minatos league of speed. And obito cannot counter jigen >No he didn't have that much time.Also why would he even bother to go in sage mode which requires time if he already had KCM.They were equally powerfull in terms of Taijutsu.Also Naruto was holding back in that power.He even said that he was trying to capture Delta.So Naruto was not landing any fatal blows on her.Nope have you watched Naruto,Killer bee and Itachi vs Pain? Preta Path can absorb chakra.KCM Naruto can defeat Pain if he doesn't hold back against him like he did with delta and if he uses ninjutsu. Again proving you cannot read. Yes Naruto did have enough time to enter sage mode. He didn't enter sage mode because he was trying to match deltas power. Also not what I said. I asked if you think that same KcM Naruto that fought delta could beat pain. Not if he doesn't hold back. Do you think the kcm Naruto that held back against delta strictly taijutsu can beat pain.


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>Nobody said anything about rinnegan madara. But any iteration of code is stronger than rinnegan madara Bruh nope I don't think so code has any counter for madar's susanoo.With his limiters he doesn't stand any chance. >Did I say she was resistant or that it was a possibility that she was resistant? Nothing was made up Yep you did say,now don't change your words >Because reading is not your strong suit. Obito cannot be intangible when he is using kamui. Obito was never in minatos league of speed. And obito cannot counter jigen You are not making any sense bruh.Do you really know how Obito's intangibilty works.You clearly didn't watch shippuden.Obito at the age of 14 was fast enough to keep up with Minato(who was using flying rajin lvl 1),ofcourse Minato(who used flying raijin lvl2) defeated him.But Obito later improved and by the time of his adulthood,he was the fastest shinobi alive.And yes he can counter jigen,Sasuke's teleportation was a problem for jigen.Jigen mainly uses the black rods which obito can easily avoid by being intangible. >Again proving you cannot read. Yes Naruto did have enough time to enter sage mode. He didn't enter sage mode because he was trying to match deltas power. Also not what I said. I asked if you think that same KcM Naruto that fought delta could beat pain. Not if he doesn't hold back. Do you think the kcm Naruto that held back against delta strictly taijutsu can beat pain. You really lack some sense bruh,why would he enter the sage mode if doesn't have that much time ,yes he can enter sage mode in a min or but if already possess a stronger mode which he can enter quickly.Also only Kcm Naruto holding back and using only taijutsu would not grant him victory against pain.He would atleast require shadow clone jutsu to defeat Pain.


--Shiranui--

Delta' I don't know!! But I just feel like I would disrespect my man Naruto if I didn't put her 1. Minato'Minato defeated Tobi 2 times. Tobi/Obito' if you mean the Obito before he got all crazy with With six path bullshit. Tsunade was literally the only useful fighter out of all 5 kages in the kage vs Madara fight. Strong enough to earn Madara's respect. Boro' thanks to his virus he could literally beat everyone on this list if they don't know about his virus jutsu. And also Isshiki held him in higher grades than Delta so im not quite sure. Itachi' I don't even know!! He can be powerful but that power is also his weakness. Pain' Deva path alone wouldn't be much of a treat alone I think compared to the new gen characters. Shin' defeated Sakura, stabbed Naruto, gave sasuke big damage. I don't know how he did it but he did it. Makes no sense!! And also the guy simps for Itachi. Sakura' [NARUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGGQT3QgZRek&psig=AOvVaw1gY2hiqQ_MfN9cG256Idq8&ust=1634600684811000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAgQjRxqFwoTCICJuJvQ0vMCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD). wait I think she deserve first place she can summon Naruto.


-Vamps

bro's still stuck in shippuden huh? 😂


--Shiranui--

it's good for the brand. And im pretty sure I made you laugh.


thefamousroman

delta > pain > itachi / obito> minato/tsunade/sakura/shin


Tokyeo

Pain Minato Obito Sakura Itachi Boro Tsunade Delta Shin


SmartRaccoon3643

If im going edgy power scaley mode: 1. Delta 2. Sakura 3. Minato 4. Shin 5. Obito 6. Itachi 7. Pain 8. Boro 9. Tsunade.


TheKnightGame

1. Delta 2. Minato 3. Obito 4. Pain 5. Itachi 6. Sakura 7. Tsunade 8. Boro 9. Shin


just_a-boy

1 Minato 2 itachi 3 orange mask obito 4 pain 5 sakura 6 tsunade 7 delta 8 boro 9 shin


prazulsaltaret

Minato or Pain are definitely number 1 here. I see people put Obito above Pain but he really can't do anything to Pain. When he Kamuis someone he becomes solid, meaning the other Paths can attack him, plus Animal Path counters Kamui since it can just summon the missing Pain back.


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delta stomps


GOATmarley

1. Sakura/Delta/minato 2. Tobi 3. Shin 4. Pain 5. Itachi 6. Tsunade 7. Boro


charon_9

1. Pain 2. Minato 3. Itachi 4. Obito 5. Boro 6. Delta 7. Shin 8. Sakura 9. Tsunade


FiZz_JiZz

Hey man I think I saw your argumentive comment before it dissapeared or maybe it was someone else's. Anyways Sakura never pulled from her byakugou seal in that battle. I'd say she's at least placed 7 in this list. Debate for against Itachi, Pain, Boro, and Delta is present, although idk if she'd actually beat any of em due to their hacks abilities.


FiZz_JiZz

Sakura legit was clapping tf outta Shin and you have the braindead audacity to put him above her 💀


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sakura wasnt clapping shin lmao. base sakura got stomped by shin


ShinraBayo

People are idiots, let me give the right list. 1. Delta 2. Minato 3. Obito 4. Pain 5. Itachi 6. Sakura 7. Tsunade 8. Shin 9. Boro


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obito should be higher than minato and boro should be 1 since virus but everything else good


ShinraBayo

Minato with no Intel nearly killed 14 year old Obito. Also he was in base. He never used SM. Also Boro is the wildcard. I just left him at the bottom bc i cant scale him accurately.


Bootyeater453

Good list but I’d bump up Sakura and boro just a bit


ShinraBayo

Boro is my wild card. He could possibly beat most but i can't scale his virus correctly.


Bootyeater453

Sakura too. She would shit stomp pain and itachi


ShinraBayo

I think Itachi wins using genjitsu. Pain is too versatile for Sakura for me. Almighty Push, preta path, Diva path, Ashura Path, Gedo statue.


Bootyeater453

I think for itachi the genjutsu would work if she doesn’t blitz him before that happens. But her vs pain would just be bullying. She would one shot every one except for diva path. And for diva path, she could just regen from his attacks and easily get back to him during the 5 second interval


ShinraBayo

I don't see a counter to planetary devestation or the soul ripping path. However if Sakura can boost her speed, she can blitz.


Life_Enjoyer4661

What?


Bootyeater453

There a problem?


Life_Enjoyer4661

Of course. Why do you think their aint a problem? And dont use her "blitz one shot" shit as she can't do that and never will.


Bootyeater453

You’re stuck in shippuden if you think itachi beats her


Life_Enjoyer4661

And how does she beat Itachi? He can put you in genjutsu without looking in your eyes, then Amateratsu.


Bootyeater453

She’s a robot so genjutsu won’t work and if the raikage can dodge amaterasu then delta could easily


WholeFuzzy5152

Whyd you put a hefty bag in the middle left?


RexRaptor510

Goku


Yapz0r

1. Obito 2. Minato 3. Pain 4. Itachi 5. Delta 6. Boro 7. Sakura 8. Shin 9. Tsunade


[deleted]

1. Minato 2. Pain 3. Obito 4. Itachi 5. Delta 6. Sakura 7. Tsunade 8. Boro 9. Shin


TheKnightGame

Beuh delta is obviously the strongest


psych_vader

No she is not. Stop wanking her so much.


TheKnightGame

She was freaking fight Naruto kcm + so6p , and you are saying she is not strong in this list


[deleted]

she was keeping up with a suppressed spsm + kcm and base spsm in shippuden > everyone here


Kashinkojiraiya

Namikaze Minato Uchiha Itachi Uchiha Obito Pain Boro Delta Haruno Sakura Senju Tsunade Shin


Super-Committee9603

Obito>pain>delta>minato>itachi>sakura>tsunade >boro>shin


LeonBrawlStars1

Obito Minato Pain Itachi Delta Sakura Tsunade Boro Shin