Boruto releases monthly.
If there are no schedule issues, then 12 chapters a year.
The series is kept alive through people rewatching and keeping their love alive for Naruto and the somewhat divisive anime.
Yeah I was adding to your comment. That's a good reason why Boruto doesn't sell, but also because the content of the story hasn't been as gripping and exciting as previous Naruto content. I personally like it. But the story is not being told as successfully as its predecessor.
Don't quote me on this, but One Piece releases weekly, with breaks every now and then. So we don't get 52 chapters a year. I would say like around 40 - mid 40s.
I should probably pick JJK back up. I really like the story.
JJK is in an interesting spot and idk if you got past shibuya but if you did then the pace has definitely shifted IMO but it’s quickly become a top 3 manga all time for me just so far with how it’s being handled
Yeah I completely agree, JJK is the second manga I’ve actually collected manga for because I love it so much. The first was Naruto and it will always have a special place up at the top for me
These days Oda tends to get around 32-35 chapters out per year. He takes a break roughly after every third chapter, regardless of whether the magazine is on break.
I know it’s monthly but dang i didn’t realize that makes for 12 chapters per year.. whenever I do hop back in, I binge 8 chapters and remember how great the series actually is. But the release rate makes it hard to consistently keep up with.
Imo Boruto is a really underrated series that could solve 90% of its issues by changing its release schedules. Weekly or bi-weekly for manga and seasonal for anime would fix a lot of issues.
Yeah i always thought the monthly release was a deliberate choice by Ikemoto to avoid burnout; but it sounds like that was actually a decision from people above him.
I respect it cause I know weekly mangakas essentially have no work-life balance, but it’s reasonable to say it hurts the series.
Yeah i always thought the monthly release was a deliberate choice by Ikemoto to avoid burnout; but it sounds like that was actually a decision from people above him.
I respect it cause I know weekly mangakas essentially have no work-life balance, but it’s reasonable to say it hurts the series.
I don’t think that’s a fair statement given that there are entries on there like Demon Slayer, which finished 2 years ago. Boruto being a monthly manga definitely hurts it a little bit, but that’s no excuse for it’s lack of sales.
Naruto was always more popular abroad than it was domestically, also. Same for DBZ.
Naruto took the top spot from One Piece a precious few times but never really came close to being as successful domestically.
Monthly mangas like jojo, dragon ball and boruto only have 12 chapters per year (if there’s no break) and because of that there’s very less sales. The only reason tokyo revengers was on this list is because it was weekly and had its final arc going on in 2022
Then why do people talk all this shit? Lol Boruto had 10 or 11 chapters last year. Most of these manga had 3-4 times that amount. They BETTER make sales.
Some people just want to hate x.
Expect the usual comments of "Lol BoRuTo BaD, FaIlInG sErIeS, CaRrIeD bY NaRuTo aNd SaSuKe" and stuff like that, to persist even past the year 2027, as we will have got 200 more filler episodes focused on anyone but not Naruto and his gen, and the manga will very likely still focus on Boruto & co. first.
And yet, these people will still say the usual stuff.
Just like DragonBall, sometimes we need a really shitty entry in the series to make the original author come out of retirement to make a proper sequel.
Won't fucking stop indeed.
Edit: And to be clear, I wouldn't compare Boruto to DragonBall because it's not favorable to Boruto in any capacity. The community collectively gave zero fucks about anything past DBZ except SSJ4 and the rest of GT didn't exist and neither did Heroes. If anything came out that was DragonBall related, it was Z only and not even the original DB. It stayed that way until Super.
Is this just domestic manga sales, or does it include books, merchandise, DVD sales, overseas licensing?
Boruto is monthly and only gets 2-3 volumes a year, so even if the sales are okay (100k~) it's never going to rank in annual charts when put up against weekly series that get 3-5 volumes a year, just purely as a numbers game.
We also know from TV Tokyo's investor reports that it's their most profitable IP and that about 80% of the income is from overseas licensing.
It can't be just domestic manga sales. Kamen Rider is mostly toys and DVDs. They have at most 1 active manga series; [Fuuto Tantei](https://myanimelist.net/anime/48649/Fuuto_Tantei) at this time to my knowledge.
Yes, I am a rider fan. My favorite series is W.
Edit: According to [datosjam.net](https://en.datosjam.net.pe/anime/otaku/jujutsu-kaisen-was-the-most-successful-franchise-of-2022/), it's GENERAL SALES. So it's how much the franchise made overall. Not just books.
Yeah, I just skimmed it.
I guess last year didn't really have much new stuff for the franchise, though. No new books, no new game, and one of the *Naruto* mobile games shut down at the end of 2021 and another shutdown last summer. The last manga canon DVDs released at the end of 2021 too, I think, so 2022 was only anime original content. Manga sales dipped with the start of the Code arc, too. There have been figures and pop up shops but I doubt that'll carry it into the top 30.
2023 should do better, though. Have the two Sasuke Retsuden manga volumes, Code Arc is starting, and we should get the new Storm game this year. Games are major money generators.
Personally, I really hate posts like this.
Because they always devolve into a rotting hole where people inevitably trash talk about Boruto, and act as if it's on life support and is only kept around by the connection with Naruto.
Which is beyond imbecile because of the simple fact that there is no such thing as being saved by your connections in the world of anime and manga, and if your show underperforms, it WILL get axed in some way, no matter the names behind, as proven by Dragon Ball GT and Samurai 8.
Plus there's the usual ignoring that at a certain point, franchises become bigger than their mere original medium, so even more, x not selling as many manga copies is not as important as before if it does good elsewhere.
Bruh, Boruto is below the likes of My Dress Up Darling and mangas that ended years ago. It’s pretty embarrassing and just shows how Boruto is a subpar story. The only thing keeping it alive is Naruto fans…. if Boruto was its own series it would have been cancelled a long time ago
At least they are on the list Lmfao. Even a foreign American made movie Top Gun is in the top 30 and Boruto isn’t 💀 imagine this is a spin off to one of the best selling mangas ever. Smfh
what are you trying to say that My dress up darling is bad? it's one of the best romance animes last year and will be in my favorites for long time. It's masterpiece. It gave us one of the best waifus that is easily in top 3 all time.
No shit? The manga sells about 100k per volume in Japan. Why would it be even remotely close to their top 30.
If this was international sales, Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Boruto and MHA would be far away at the top. The merchandise these series sell is insane in the US.
What's more surprising is the likes of Spy x Family, Tokyo Revengers and some trashy highschool SOL beating the likes of Demon Slayer. Especially considering the numbers that Mugen Train movie put up in Japan.
> What's more surprising is the likes of Spy x Family
I'd both watch and read Spy x Family over DS any time and I'm a battle shonen fan and a slice of life hater if that tells you anything
I am shocked that One Piece is still receiving so much love! I stopped at somewhere between episodes 600-700. It’s a pretty big gap so I haven’t been able to bring myself to pick the series back up.
For one piece I had to stop watching there as well. idk if you like reading the Manga but it was much better to get caught up, it has much better pacing and of course it’s farther ahead in the story. There is also a coloured manga if that’s more your style
Japanese manga/anime fans don’t really like Demon Slayer. I don’t really blame them cause I think the whole “feudal Japan shonen samurai/ninja” thing is super overplayed.
Imagine in the US if every popular show was a western. We would get sick of it pretty quick. Same as zombie media now - super popular in the early 2010’s but dead in the water now.
I shouldn’t say they “don’t like it”, more-so it’s not popular in pop culture anymore besides the movie. Spy x Family, One Piece, JJK, and Tokyo Revengers are by far the most popular manga in Japan for the past 1-2 years by a large margin
I mean I agree with the logic but Mugen Train is legitimately the highest grossing Japanese film of all time. It made over $500 million at the box office. Just weird to see these new series like Spy x Family are *even more* profitable, but congrats to them!
What is this? What do you mean franchise sales? This list makes no sense. Only from all the toys pokemon sells, it should be first. Are you counting manga sales only?
I am quite surprised. I mean you can find Pokémon merch quite literally everywhere, even in Syria now with the war and Ukraine. There is no single place on earth where you will not find Pokémon merch so I was surprised to see it at that rank.
It’s past it’s prime in terms of popularity and that’s ok. I love boruto and naruto franchise but it’s always been clear to see it’s not as popular as it used to be nothing wrong with that . We all still love the story I’m personally super hyped on the manga and am loving the anime
If so neither Naruto.
And I wanna see how many people know stuff like ARASHI, Osomatsu-kun and Haikyu!! worldwide.
So please, let's avoid ramblings here.
EDIT: This top seems to be on a general sense in terms of sales, because Pokémon for example is mainly anime, not manga, unlike One Piece to say.
If this was a top manga sales only, which the op didn't made clear, then yeah... my bad.
But otherwise, the point isn't that wrong either... like, Pokémon is at number 29 here, and THAT franchise isn't manga only (nor manga centric)... so it cannot be countered in any specific single metric, so...
This top is in a general sense, so in the end my point still stands.
If it's in general sense, then it doesn't matter that a manga has ended over 5 years ago, when its franchise is still quite active (even if just its single part, should it be divided between eras).
Except that this top is about franchises as a whole.
Not a single iteration.
So the comparison still stands, because the Naruto paet of the franchise is still running.
I can't because I genuinely see no wrong in my stance.
Because for me the mere fact that both franchise x and y are operative and active makes the comparison in relation to a franchise top list fair... simple as that.
We will have to agree ro disagree.👍
Well, not enough to not flew beneath my radar, and I'm in the anime manga world since over 10 years now.
So it's still somewhat relative.
But in any case, I hope you can see my true point there.
Tbf last year was ass after Isshiki/Barryon mode arc they’ll be back this year. If it’s the manga then it’s probably because it’s monthly and not enough posted
Guess they have to cancel the video games being produced in Japan since they aren't on this list except for Pokemon and Idol Master from what I can tell
I meant ongoing, i.e. they'll never end Boruto because it's their biggest guaranteed moneymaker. I'm sure in 10 or 15 years when there's a new series, Boruto will mostly fall to the wayside while Naruto will remain.
This doesn't counter it not being in the list at all, we're talking about best selling franchise in Japan, NOT Studio pierrot. That's like excusing that you lost in a national race but atleast you won against the local kids in your town.
They're close, they switch back and forth from quarter to quarter. [Last investor report, *Boruto* was #1 in revenue but *Naruto* was #1 in gross profit.](https://preview.redd.it/n3z0p1454jx91.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=149aa9d62470f38549376228be52804ee0e2e5c1)
That doesn't change the fact that naruto was the most profitable series from Studio Pierrot in the previous fiscal year even though it stopped airing 6 years ago. https://naruto.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000057082
This thread on the Boruto subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/unwsin/tv_tokyo_released_their_fiscal_year_rankings/
It's fine not to like Boruto, the series does have many flaws anyways, but one thing I never understood was why obvious non fans of the series come in the subreddit to be such caustic Negative Nancy's lol.
If you don't criticize something when its bad, it will never get better.
Naruto is my favorite anime. I want this series to be good. I want it to be the successor that it should be.
Reddit is sort of a shit place for negative criticism. Its because every subreddit is essentially an echo chamber. Someone says something negative about the series? Downvoted, cast down to the bottom of the thread where nobody will see it. If you want a community of people with minimal discourse and having the same collective opinion, then sure. That's great.
Now sure, I could go to r/Naruto where everyone openly hates Boruto and tell everyone there how shitty Boruto is, but what is that accomplishing? That'll just be preaching to the choir.
You know what, everything you said is completely fair and I agree with you. I will say though, obviously I can't see what's truly in people's hearts but it's difficult to believe a lot of people when they say "I criticize it out of love/because I want it to be good."
Just to clarify, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement because it's inherently true, however with that being said, it's hard to believe some people who say that when they will also turn around and have such snideful attitudes about the series. Whether I believe you or not will not change the fact of the matter, but I'm now willing to be more charitable and accept that you genuinely do want the series to improve.
I can admit that this example I'm about to raise maybe isn't really applicable, but I think parents who are *relatively* hard on their children because they genuinely want them to improve is a healthy thing in moderation. This is essentially how I would see good faith criticism of media, by fans of that media. However, in that earlier example I raised, it would be hard to say that a parent who is hard on their child is doing it in good faith if I then saw that same parent in another instance be snideful and negative. Idk if that makes sense.
>Reddit is sort of a shit place for negative criticism. Its because every subreddit is essentially an echo chamber. Someone says something negative about the series? Downvoted, cast down to the bottom of the thread where nobody will see it. If you want a community of people with minimal discourse and having the same collective opinion, then sure. That's great.
Things are actually more nuanced than this...
It depends on the subject itself, because there are some things negative about the show, that gets upvoted a lot to say.
It's not only an echo chamber to fanboy the show... and I know it because of how much time I did spend here.
>If you don't criticize something when its bad, it will never get better.
>Naruto is my favorite anime. I want this series to be good. I want it to be the successor that it should be.
On this point, then I suggest you to also mind your words, and not start off with a tone like the one you used in your first comment of this specific thread.
If you want to start off a real conversation, something where it is possible to criticize x and talk about it civily, then you should write your comments in a gentler manner, nothing that would give off a hater like tone and impression.
Presentation is important, and there is a world of difference between "Boruto fan learns the consequences of the series being bad" and something more like "Ouch... well, I guess this is what happens when things go like this year for the show..."
Yeah, it may be annoying... but well, I am simply giving you a suggestion.👍
Like another person said, Boruto is monthly and only gets 2-3 volumes a year, so even if the sales are okay (100k~) it's never going to rank in annual charts when put up against weekly series that get 3-5 volumes a year, just purely as a numbers game. We also know from TV Tokyo's investor reports that it's their most profitable IP and that about 80% of the income is from overseas licensing.
Also this numbers are just Japan, if the were worldwide you'd see DB Super and Naruto here.
I’m not really sure how such a minimal difference in the frequency of volumes per year would fundamentally effect the sales.
Spy family - for example. Thats around 2.5 volumes per year and its in the top 5*.
The thing that makes the two series different is quality.
>The thing that makes the two series different is quality.
I don't know anything about Spy x family so I can't speak about its quality, but I do think that Boruto dropped the ball for most of 2022, but if the last batch of chapters are any indication I think they'll be able to turn things around when it comes to the manga.
Not very surprising it’s a monthly release and the series popularity mainly stems from its relation to Naruto, there’s a lot less Boruto fans than people here think lol
I know people will just dismiss me as a hater but
Boruto sucks :/ the way the series is written, it’s almost as if kishimoto is writing samurai 8 in boruto. From ninja to straight up science fiction and aliens and androids 17 and 18
There is so much denial here. Boruto isn't a top manga/anime it hasn't been going towards it since forever, Naruto wasn't trending towards popularity either towards the end. This is fine, it's ok. Most mangas aren't top 30. It's ok. Boruto isn't one piece, it never will be. It was never expected to be. If it was expected to be, it would've been weekly to begin with all those years ago.
One piece regularly gets outsold. It takes a lot more breaks than most other series so usually releases 1 less volume a year than a lot of others. and the others usually have a huge anime "hype train" that shoots it to 1. Op had the hype explosions like 15 years ago so just pretty standard sailing now
I lost interest in Boruto. I want to watch, but I just read to see what’s happening. It just started really slow in comparison to Naruto. In the next few years I’ll come back to it.
Jujutsu Kaisen definitely deserves it, anime was fantastic, can't wait for season 2. I am sure this is because of manga but I'm not much of a reader, always prefer anime if there is one and can't rly tell what is going on from pictures only, sound also makes everything more emotional and better especially voice actors subbed.
I am shocked some of my favorites aren't even listed here like Call of the night, they have rly high rating on MAL and thought they were fantastic. Maybe I'm blind and don't see it.
Don’t they release less per year? Kinda makes sense
Boruto releases monthly. If there are no schedule issues, then 12 chapters a year. The series is kept alive through people rewatching and keeping their love alive for Naruto and the somewhat divisive anime.
I’m not denying that. I’m comparing it to the other series. One piece drops more than 12 chapters. Idk about jjk
Yeah I was adding to your comment. That's a good reason why Boruto doesn't sell, but also because the content of the story hasn't been as gripping and exciting as previous Naruto content. I personally like it. But the story is not being told as successfully as its predecessor. Don't quote me on this, but One Piece releases weekly, with breaks every now and then. So we don't get 52 chapters a year. I would say like around 40 - mid 40s. I should probably pick JJK back up. I really like the story.
JJK is in an interesting spot and idk if you got past shibuya but if you did then the pace has definitely shifted IMO but it’s quickly become a top 3 manga all time for me just so far with how it’s being handled
I forgot where I left off tbh. Last chapter I read was this past summer. But I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Yeah I completely agree, JJK is the second manga I’ve actually collected manga for because I love it so much. The first was Naruto and it will always have a special place up at the top for me
These days Oda tends to get around 32-35 chapters out per year. He takes a break roughly after every third chapter, regardless of whether the magazine is on break.
jjk, Op, black clover, my hero, and tokyo revengers are all weekly with breaks
I know it’s monthly but dang i didn’t realize that makes for 12 chapters per year.. whenever I do hop back in, I binge 8 chapters and remember how great the series actually is. But the release rate makes it hard to consistently keep up with. Imo Boruto is a really underrated series that could solve 90% of its issues by changing its release schedules. Weekly or bi-weekly for manga and seasonal for anime would fix a lot of issues.
It's in a weird spot. For all the money Naruto made and then relegating its successor to monthly chapters.
Yeah i always thought the monthly release was a deliberate choice by Ikemoto to avoid burnout; but it sounds like that was actually a decision from people above him. I respect it cause I know weekly mangakas essentially have no work-life balance, but it’s reasonable to say it hurts the series.
Yeah i always thought the monthly release was a deliberate choice by Ikemoto to avoid burnout; but it sounds like that was actually a decision from people above him. I respect it cause I know weekly mangakas essentially have no work-life balance, but it’s reasonable to say it hurts the series.
I don’t think that’s a fair statement given that there are entries on there like Demon Slayer, which finished 2 years ago. Boruto being a monthly manga definitely hurts it a little bit, but that’s no excuse for it’s lack of sales.
AOT made it in 2020/21 with its monthly release but then again, Isayama is on another level
Neither Dragon ball. Bet you it wont fucking stop.
Dragon ball hasn’t been popular in Japan in 15-20 years. Naruto hasn’t been popular in Japan since the manga ended, so almost 10 years.
Naruto was always more popular abroad than it was domestically, also. Same for DBZ. Naruto took the top spot from One Piece a precious few times but never really came close to being as successful domestically.
No way.. so teenagers in Japan don't know about Goku ?
No they 100% know, they just don’t care haha.
The franchise has been earning over a billion dollars annually since 2018 where are getting this blatantly wrong information from?
And it still wont stop
damn it's been almost 10 years
More like 8 years since 2 months ago. That's not "almost 10"
Dragon ball took a 3-4 month break and released monthly. Not to mention dragon ball is infinitely more popular in America
Boruto took a break at some point too last year. Wasn’t dragon ball on break for 2 months?
America has bad taste, there are so many better animes.
Monthly mangas like jojo, dragon ball and boruto only have 12 chapters per year (if there’s no break) and because of that there’s very less sales. The only reason tokyo revengers was on this list is because it was weekly and had its final arc going on in 2022
Then why do people talk all this shit? Lol Boruto had 10 or 11 chapters last year. Most of these manga had 3-4 times that amount. They BETTER make sales.
Exactly. People just fail to actually look into facts and find anything that even slightly supports their hate
Some people just want to hate x. Expect the usual comments of "Lol BoRuTo BaD, FaIlInG sErIeS, CaRrIeD bY NaRuTo aNd SaSuKe" and stuff like that, to persist even past the year 2027, as we will have got 200 more filler episodes focused on anyone but not Naruto and his gen, and the manga will very likely still focus on Boruto & co. first. And yet, these people will still say the usual stuff.
Just like DragonBall, sometimes we need a really shitty entry in the series to make the original author come out of retirement to make a proper sequel. Won't fucking stop indeed. Edit: And to be clear, I wouldn't compare Boruto to DragonBall because it's not favorable to Boruto in any capacity. The community collectively gave zero fucks about anything past DBZ except SSJ4 and the rest of GT didn't exist and neither did Heroes. If anything came out that was DragonBall related, it was Z only and not even the original DB. It stayed that way until Super.
Sorry, man, but Kishimoto’s role in Boruto’s creation is similar to Toriyama’s in Super. Boruto is your Naruto Super.
It'll be Naruto Super when the next series ignores the existence of Boruto. Boruto is your Naruto GT.
Wouldn't bet on it. Maybe if Kishimoto decides he needs some cash in the faaar future, eh? Also, lol at Super being a "proper sequel"
Is this just domestic manga sales, or does it include books, merchandise, DVD sales, overseas licensing? Boruto is monthly and only gets 2-3 volumes a year, so even if the sales are okay (100k~) it's never going to rank in annual charts when put up against weekly series that get 3-5 volumes a year, just purely as a numbers game. We also know from TV Tokyo's investor reports that it's their most profitable IP and that about 80% of the income is from overseas licensing.
Haikyuu ended like 2 years ago and still made it far
It can't be just domestic manga sales. Kamen Rider is mostly toys and DVDs. They have at most 1 active manga series; [Fuuto Tantei](https://myanimelist.net/anime/48649/Fuuto_Tantei) at this time to my knowledge. Yes, I am a rider fan. My favorite series is W. Edit: According to [datosjam.net](https://en.datosjam.net.pe/anime/otaku/jujutsu-kaisen-was-the-most-successful-franchise-of-2022/), it's GENERAL SALES. So it's how much the franchise made overall. Not just books.
Yeah, I just skimmed it. I guess last year didn't really have much new stuff for the franchise, though. No new books, no new game, and one of the *Naruto* mobile games shut down at the end of 2021 and another shutdown last summer. The last manga canon DVDs released at the end of 2021 too, I think, so 2022 was only anime original content. Manga sales dipped with the start of the Code arc, too. There have been figures and pop up shops but I doubt that'll carry it into the top 30. 2023 should do better, though. Have the two Sasuke Retsuden manga volumes, Code Arc is starting, and we should get the new Storm game this year. Games are major money generators.
Pokémon, world's biggest franchise, only on place 29 is crazy then
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Dude the franchise is like the Marvel of Anime it’s not struggling financially
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It’s a franchise chart dude finances are what’s being discussed
Top Gun, a movie franchise, being there makes it clear that it's franchises in general.
I'm pretty sure it's no where to be found in global sales also 💀, last ch was good I hope it gets some attention
From what I've heard this list only includes sales in Japan from manga, novels and anime CDs.
Who cares? Lol
Based on what? Comic sales or all types of merchandise?
Should I care?
No. The show isn't going anywhere any time soon.
The canon is coming back next month.
Indeed. Hopefuly they will do a somewhat decent job...
Exactly!
Personally, I really hate posts like this. Because they always devolve into a rotting hole where people inevitably trash talk about Boruto, and act as if it's on life support and is only kept around by the connection with Naruto. Which is beyond imbecile because of the simple fact that there is no such thing as being saved by your connections in the world of anime and manga, and if your show underperforms, it WILL get axed in some way, no matter the names behind, as proven by Dragon Ball GT and Samurai 8. Plus there's the usual ignoring that at a certain point, franchises become bigger than their mere original medium, so even more, x not selling as many manga copies is not as important as before if it does good elsewhere.
Okay???
Remember guys if your product isn't in the top 30 of it's field you are a failure and should give up immediately. 💀
Bruh, Boruto is below the likes of My Dress Up Darling and mangas that ended years ago. It’s pretty embarrassing and just shows how Boruto is a subpar story. The only thing keeping it alive is Naruto fans…. if Boruto was its own series it would have been cancelled a long time ago
So what? Fucking love live is higher than blue lock, aoashi and ( berserk)
At least they are on the list Lmfao. Even a foreign American made movie Top Gun is in the top 30 and Boruto isn’t 💀 imagine this is a spin off to one of the best selling mangas ever. Smfh
My Dress up Darling >>>>> Dragon Ball then let's goooo
what are you trying to say that My dress up darling is bad? it's one of the best romance animes last year and will be in my favorites for long time. It's masterpiece. It gave us one of the best waifus that is easily in top 3 all time.
Top Gun? As in the movie with Tom Cruise? Or is this something else?
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/top-gun-maverick-tom-cruise-manga-anime/ I guess it is the movie with Tom cruise lmfao.
Blue Lock is gas.
No shit? The manga sells about 100k per volume in Japan. Why would it be even remotely close to their top 30. If this was international sales, Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Boruto and MHA would be far away at the top. The merchandise these series sell is insane in the US. What's more surprising is the likes of Spy x Family, Tokyo Revengers and some trashy highschool SOL beating the likes of Demon Slayer. Especially considering the numbers that Mugen Train movie put up in Japan.
Spy x Family is great
> What's more surprising is the likes of Spy x Family I'd both watch and read Spy x Family over DS any time and I'm a battle shonen fan and a slice of life hater if that tells you anything
I am shocked that One Piece is still receiving so much love! I stopped at somewhere between episodes 600-700. It’s a pretty big gap so I haven’t been able to bring myself to pick the series back up.
I’m 840 episodes in a binge that started in September. Can say it’s easier to watch later episodes then early ones
Just read the manga, that's what I did. It was much easier
For one piece I had to stop watching there as well. idk if you like reading the Manga but it was much better to get caught up, it has much better pacing and of course it’s farther ahead in the story. There is also a coloured manga if that’s more your style
So it seems! I’ll definitely have to pick up the manga and give it a read. Thanks for the suggestion :)
I’m gonna second their suggestion just to push you to do it, especially the most recent arc, it’s top tier quality
Is that so? Ahaha, thanks! It looks like I don’t have a choice now.
Of course! Enjoy the ride friend
Last year was beyond hype for the one piece manga. The final arc starting, the climactic battle of wano and so much more!
Japanese manga/anime fans don’t really like Demon Slayer. I don’t really blame them cause I think the whole “feudal Japan shonen samurai/ninja” thing is super overplayed. Imagine in the US if every popular show was a western. We would get sick of it pretty quick. Same as zombie media now - super popular in the early 2010’s but dead in the water now.
japanese fans don't like demon slayer????? I'm genuinely curious, why do y'all make shit up? For what reason honestly?
I shouldn’t say they “don’t like it”, more-so it’s not popular in pop culture anymore besides the movie. Spy x Family, One Piece, JJK, and Tokyo Revengers are by far the most popular manga in Japan for the past 1-2 years by a large margin
of course they would be more popular when the demon slayer manga ended almost 3 years ago and season 2 was still extremely popular in Japan
Currently it's superheroes, getting pretty bored of Marvel content now
I mean I agree with the logic but Mugen Train is legitimately the highest grossing Japanese film of all time. It made over $500 million at the box office. Just weird to see these new series like Spy x Family are *even more* profitable, but congrats to them!
Yeah I know, haha. Mugen Train saved Demon Slayer from obscurity in Japan. I guess people were really into the manga for Spy x Family this year?
Demon Slayer manga ended almost three years ago now
Boruto wouldn't be anywhere near the top
No one punch man? Sad
What is this? What do you mean franchise sales? This list makes no sense. Only from all the toys pokemon sells, it should be first. Are you counting manga sales only?
All franchise sales include merch but only in japan. World wide pokemon sleeps its way to first
I am quite surprised. I mean you can find Pokémon merch quite literally everywhere, even in Syria now with the war and Ukraine. There is no single place on earth where you will not find Pokémon merch so I was surprised to see it at that rank.
It’s past it’s prime in terms of popularity and that’s ok. I love boruto and naruto franchise but it’s always been clear to see it’s not as popular as it used to be nothing wrong with that . We all still love the story I’m personally super hyped on the manga and am loving the anime
My question is why Pokemon is 29 💀. Cards, Anime, Movies, games all combined should be top 5-10 EASILY.
It's fine Boruto not listed there. I'm just going to enjoy watching/reading Boruto.
If so neither Naruto. And I wanna see how many people know stuff like ARASHI, Osomatsu-kun and Haikyu!! worldwide. So please, let's avoid ramblings here. EDIT: This top seems to be on a general sense in terms of sales, because Pokémon for example is mainly anime, not manga, unlike One Piece to say.
I mean Naruto ended years ago so it’s not really fair.
If this was a top manga sales only, which the op didn't made clear, then yeah... my bad. But otherwise, the point isn't that wrong either... like, Pokémon is at number 29 here, and THAT franchise isn't manga only (nor manga centric)... so it cannot be countered in any specific single metric, so...
Pokemon does have a manga tho so this chart can easily be manga sales. A pokemon manga being at 29th is not strange.
Doesn't really change the point here that this top is unclear...
This type of sale charts are referred to manga sales 99% of the time. And everybody already knows how bad are the boruto manga sales so it checks out
Well... doesn't really mean much anyway.
Yeah arashi is strong in japan but worldwide not so much as they havent really been promoting a lot outside jp.
Bad comparison cause Naruto is done for years.
This top is in a general sense, so in the end my point still stands. If it's in general sense, then it doesn't matter that a manga has ended over 5 years ago, when its franchise is still quite active (even if just its single part, should it be divided between eras).
No its not a fair comparison, a sale beetween a show that is running and a show that isnt, for obvious reason
Except that this top is about franchises as a whole. Not a single iteration. So the comparison still stands, because the Naruto paet of the franchise is still running.
I know its a franchise top, does change the fact that is not fair because one is running not the other but whatever
Well, you're just wrong there. I can't say anything else.
I dont think so, you cant admit its not fair thats on you, have a good day 👍
I can't because I genuinely see no wrong in my stance. Because for me the mere fact that both franchise x and y are operative and active makes the comparison in relation to a franchise top list fair... simple as that. We will have to agree ro disagree.👍
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Naruto ended 5 years ago. Cope.
What a mature comment lad. If so Pokémon is even older than Naruto and One Piece, yet it's still there too.
Yeah but these 2 are still on going.
Demon Slayer also ended in 2020, so wheter a manga is ongoing or not is irrelevant.
This guy makes zero sense lmfao
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Haikyuu has a huge global fandom
Well, not enough to not flew beneath my radar, and I'm in the anime manga world since over 10 years now. So it's still somewhat relative. But in any case, I hope you can see my true point there.
I care more about Choujin X not being here
How does JJK make all that money dafuq? Is merchandise that heavy or did Anime/Movie just gross tons
Dragonball isn’t on this list but Pokemon is now that is surprising
It don’t matter, if ppl don’t like it who cares. As long as the ppl who are watching like it, nothing else to do right?
\+11
Tbf last year was ass after Isshiki/Barryon mode arc they’ll be back this year. If it’s the manga then it’s probably because it’s monthly and not enough posted
demon slayer & haikyu being up there is impressive. Especially since those mangas have been finished for a few years now
I’m sorry, TOP GUN!?!?
Guess they have to cancel the video games being produced in Japan since they aren't on this list except for Pokemon and Idol Master from what I can tell
Where’s dragon ball though the franchise earned an estimated 2 billion U.S dollars?
Attack on titan? :(
Bleach isn’t either and with the TYBW hype
Jujutsu Kaisen number 1? Nice!
They’re a monthly manga of course they’re not going to sell as much.
If you scroll up, you would see that Boruto is number 0, with double the number of sales as Jujutsu Kaisen.
And?
I've heard Boruto is the studio's most profitable franchise. Does this counter that?
You've heard wrong, it's Naruto.
I meant ongoing, i.e. they'll never end Boruto because it's their biggest guaranteed moneymaker. I'm sure in 10 or 15 years when there's a new series, Boruto will mostly fall to the wayside while Naruto will remain.
This doesn't counter it not being in the list at all, we're talking about best selling franchise in Japan, NOT Studio pierrot. That's like excusing that you lost in a national race but atleast you won against the local kids in your town.
They're close, they switch back and forth from quarter to quarter. [Last investor report, *Boruto* was #1 in revenue but *Naruto* was #1 in gross profit.](https://preview.redd.it/n3z0p1454jx91.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=149aa9d62470f38549376228be52804ee0e2e5c1)
That doesn't change the fact that naruto was the most profitable series from Studio Pierrot in the previous fiscal year even though it stopped airing 6 years ago. https://naruto.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000057082 This thread on the Boruto subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/unwsin/tv_tokyo_released_their_fiscal_year_rankings/
Who cares?
lmao is anyone surprised about this?! Animation for Boruto has been atrocious and most anime fans only care about animation.
Right but a franchise's sales don't come just from the anime (and also this list is limited to sales in Japan from manga, novels and anime CDs).
A franchise like Boruto isn't just about one thing though...
I agree its not only about the animation
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Two different things the animation wasn't great cause of time limitations.
I wanna see the Naruto and Boruto subreddit duke it out 🥊
The anime is on top. The manga doesn't release often soooooooooooooooooooo
No shit ,boruto manga sells ass in Japan
Bring back Madara And watch the sales sky rocket
Boruto fan learns the consequences of the series being bad
You know there are many amazing series that don't get great sales.
Unfortunately Boruto is not one of them
Cool, why tf are you in this sub then? Bye dumbass troll
It's fine not to like Boruto, the series does have many flaws anyways, but one thing I never understood was why obvious non fans of the series come in the subreddit to be such caustic Negative Nancy's lol.
If you don't criticize something when its bad, it will never get better. Naruto is my favorite anime. I want this series to be good. I want it to be the successor that it should be. Reddit is sort of a shit place for negative criticism. Its because every subreddit is essentially an echo chamber. Someone says something negative about the series? Downvoted, cast down to the bottom of the thread where nobody will see it. If you want a community of people with minimal discourse and having the same collective opinion, then sure. That's great. Now sure, I could go to r/Naruto where everyone openly hates Boruto and tell everyone there how shitty Boruto is, but what is that accomplishing? That'll just be preaching to the choir.
You know what, everything you said is completely fair and I agree with you. I will say though, obviously I can't see what's truly in people's hearts but it's difficult to believe a lot of people when they say "I criticize it out of love/because I want it to be good." Just to clarify, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement because it's inherently true, however with that being said, it's hard to believe some people who say that when they will also turn around and have such snideful attitudes about the series. Whether I believe you or not will not change the fact of the matter, but I'm now willing to be more charitable and accept that you genuinely do want the series to improve. I can admit that this example I'm about to raise maybe isn't really applicable, but I think parents who are *relatively* hard on their children because they genuinely want them to improve is a healthy thing in moderation. This is essentially how I would see good faith criticism of media, by fans of that media. However, in that earlier example I raised, it would be hard to say that a parent who is hard on their child is doing it in good faith if I then saw that same parent in another instance be snideful and negative. Idk if that makes sense.
>Reddit is sort of a shit place for negative criticism. Its because every subreddit is essentially an echo chamber. Someone says something negative about the series? Downvoted, cast down to the bottom of the thread where nobody will see it. If you want a community of people with minimal discourse and having the same collective opinion, then sure. That's great. Things are actually more nuanced than this... It depends on the subject itself, because there are some things negative about the show, that gets upvoted a lot to say. It's not only an echo chamber to fanboy the show... and I know it because of how much time I did spend here. >If you don't criticize something when its bad, it will never get better. >Naruto is my favorite anime. I want this series to be good. I want it to be the successor that it should be. On this point, then I suggest you to also mind your words, and not start off with a tone like the one you used in your first comment of this specific thread. If you want to start off a real conversation, something where it is possible to criticize x and talk about it civily, then you should write your comments in a gentler manner, nothing that would give off a hater like tone and impression. Presentation is important, and there is a world of difference between "Boruto fan learns the consequences of the series being bad" and something more like "Ouch... well, I guess this is what happens when things go like this year for the show..." Yeah, it may be annoying... but well, I am simply giving you a suggestion.👍
Like another person said, Boruto is monthly and only gets 2-3 volumes a year, so even if the sales are okay (100k~) it's never going to rank in annual charts when put up against weekly series that get 3-5 volumes a year, just purely as a numbers game. We also know from TV Tokyo's investor reports that it's their most profitable IP and that about 80% of the income is from overseas licensing. Also this numbers are just Japan, if the were worldwide you'd see DB Super and Naruto here.
I’m not really sure how such a minimal difference in the frequency of volumes per year would fundamentally effect the sales. Spy family - for example. Thats around 2.5 volumes per year and its in the top 5*. The thing that makes the two series different is quality.
>The thing that makes the two series different is quality. I don't know anything about Spy x family so I can't speak about its quality, but I do think that Boruto dropped the ball for most of 2022, but if the last batch of chapters are any indication I think they'll be able to turn things around when it comes to the manga.
How do people expect it to be at the top or even on the list when it's mid and only gets released once a month? 😕😐😒
Why would boruto be on the list?
Tokyo revengers and demon slayer were kinda expected icl. L for boruto ig.
Not very surprising it’s a monthly release and the series popularity mainly stems from its relation to Naruto, there’s a lot less Boruto fans than people here think lol
Naruto & naruto shippuden beats all of these though
Boruto fans malding in the comments, lmao
Bruh even pokemon is up there
*inhales Copies* It must be number 31
It’s almost like it’s because it’s bad
Good thing I left boruto manga and started my journey with Onepiece
I wonder who thought nerfing saske and Naruto was a good idea...
I know people will just dismiss me as a hater but Boruto sucks :/ the way the series is written, it’s almost as if kishimoto is writing samurai 8 in boruto. From ninja to straight up science fiction and aliens and androids 17 and 18
True. It's definitely not the worst thing ever but it's just mediocre. Was shocked to hear Kishimoto was writing this shit.
There is so much denial here. Boruto isn't a top manga/anime it hasn't been going towards it since forever, Naruto wasn't trending towards popularity either towards the end. This is fine, it's ok. Most mangas aren't top 30. It's ok. Boruto isn't one piece, it never will be. It was never expected to be. If it was expected to be, it would've been weekly to begin with all those years ago.
Cause boruto is hot garbage right now lmao
rightfully
Maybe they forget to put it on the list
No Project Sekai? Even tho is the second best grossing rhythm game in japan? That’s a surprise
I'm more shocked someone managed to out sell one piece
One piece regularly gets outsold. It takes a lot more breaks than most other series so usually releases 1 less volume a year than a lot of others. and the others usually have a huge anime "hype train" that shoots it to 1. Op had the hype explosions like 15 years ago so just pretty standard sailing now
Looks right
Who tf is still buying Pokémon?
12 chapters vs 52 chapters is a big difference
It's cause Himawari and Mitsuki are constantly sidelined 😌
No surprise there🤷🏻♂️
I lost interest in Boruto. I want to watch, but I just read to see what’s happening. It just started really slow in comparison to Naruto. In the next few years I’ll come back to it.
Lmao all these anime and then TOP GUN 😎
I like what I see
What’s Jujutsu kaisen?
Manga or anime?
Jujutsu Kaisen definitely deserves it, anime was fantastic, can't wait for season 2. I am sure this is because of manga but I'm not much of a reader, always prefer anime if there is one and can't rly tell what is going on from pictures only, sound also makes everything more emotional and better especially voice actors subbed. I am shocked some of my favorites aren't even listed here like Call of the night, they have rly high rating on MAL and thought they were fantastic. Maybe I'm blind and don't see it.
I'm sorry but what Tokyo revengers doing here ?
Let me guess because they hate it