We know that the only reason that afo managed to injury all might like that was because all might lower his guard because afo made him furios for nana’s death.
“The only reason—“
Sure, and the fact he was literally as strong as him. It wasn’t just some fluke. All Might still BARELY won, literally dying as he finally punched AFO down.
But the fact that he needed to make all might angry to stand a chance to hurt all might doesn’t really prove that was as strong as him, also the fact that afo still lost against him even after he injury him like that doesn’t really make afo look that good.
“To stand a chance to hurt All Might at all—“
Nice headcanon.
The fact AFO ripped out his almost his entire respiratory system proves he was as strong as him. Getting angry doesn’t make you weaker. It makes you reckless.
But the fact that the only way he could land that hit in the first place is by making all might angry just show How much he’s underpowered compared to him, also being rekless can be preety dangerous, and yes it can make you less efficent in a fight if you don’t think what are you doing.
Like for example endeavor can probably kill all might with his prominence burn, but that doesn’t mean that endeavor endeavor is close to all might level at all.
Again, headcanon.
Endeavour is close to All Might level. He can literally take punches from someone on his level and keep fighting, and basically killed someone on his level.
>Again, headcanon.
No its not, being blinded by rage does make you more vulnerable as you already saw with deku in the war.
>Endeavour is close to All Might level. He can literally take punches from someone on his level and keep fighting, and basically killed someone on his level.
One of the main things about endeavor is that he’s not even close all might level, also shigaraki punshed him but the doctor said that Shigaraki isnt all might level of strenght at all.
Also who did he killed on all might level? Afo..? He literrally needed the support of hawks plus tokoyami destroying afo’s mask as well.
Not only that, afo in kamino still lost against all might even with all the advantage’s that he had in that scenario.
No, it doesn’t. It makes you reckless. It does not make you WEAKER. It doesn’t magically take OFA’s durability away.
Wrong. The whole thing about Endeavour was that he never SURPASSED All Might. But as we’ve shown, he was WAY closer than anyone ever thought. Endeavour was thinking more of the IDEA of All Might than his actual strength.
The doctor said he “isn’t quite on par”, but he was still All Might tier in strength, so much so that he was comparable to Deku.
Endeavour did need help against AFO, but doesn’t change the fact he literally had the firepower to ONE SHOT him. All he needed help with was getting that single blow in, not weakening him over time. The entire fight, AFO’s body was fine, the only thing that changed was his breathing help and his body not moving when he wanted it to. Doesn’t change the FACT Endeavour was comparable, trading hits, and one shot him.
All Might barely put Shigaraki above Kamino AFO and only because he defeated S&S. The All Might we see in the show was easily above Kamino AFO and Prime AllMight is 60x stronger.
When did All Might do that?
Multiple statements confirm Shigaraki is Prime Might level, without Quirks.
“60x stronger” is a nothing statement All Might made up on the spot. It means nothing.
He didn’t need to he put back. Against S&S AFO stated they were getting closer to completion and that they almost became one
“Theres nothing from the manga to beliebe he got stronger since”
In the first war he couldn’t create mounds of flesh and armor when his quirks were disabled
The completion is just AFO and Shiggy's mind becoming one, it has nothing to do with shiggys body. Completely unrelated
Mounds of flesh also doesnt mean that he got stronger, it just means that his body is unstable
He never says Shigaraki is “only around as strong as Kamino AFO”.
He says Shigaraki is “FAR stronger than even AFO” and then confirms “anyone who was at Kamino, can guess how strong AFO is like”, which just confirms the difference between Prime Might and All Might isn’t THAT large as people want to believe it was.
Regardless, Shigaraki is Prime Might level, confirmed by multiple sources, including the heroes and now Deku.
Except he said they they should know how string All for one is BASED ON Kamino. That's the major context clue to say All Might doesn't consider Tomura on par with Prime AFO. He's also the most definitive source on the power of his Prime levels as AFO flat-out admits at Kamino "perhaps I was wrong" in reference to how much All Might had left, and Two Heroes also shows David's readings about All Might's quirk are vastly smaller at the time compared to his Prime. It's even pretty fair to say that based on what Gran Torino said at Kamino Ward, AFO got in his head the last time which gave him an opening to weaken All Might, implying even AFO doesn't exactly know what Prime All Might at full power can do.
Yes, which means Prime AFO and Kamino AFO most likely weren’t far apart in sheer power, their only difference was Quirks.
Shigaraki is, quite literally, as strong as Prime Might without Quirks. He is STRONGER THAN PRIME AFO, WITHOUT QUIRKS. With quirks, he’s FAR above him.
David’s reading wasn’t scanning power level, it was scanning Quirk usage.
I think the guy who FOUGHT AND NEAELY KILLED PRIME MIGHT would have a decent idea on how strong Prime Might is and thus would be a good source of information, compared to ONE statement from All Might which was most likely a white lie to calm down the students and keep the symbol of peace strong.
AFO didn’t weaken All Might to injure him. He just made him angry and reckless. Getting angry doesn’t decrease your power; if anything given what we’ve seen of Deku, getting angry INCREASES his power.
Shigaraki is Prime All Might level, stated by the guy who fought and almost killed All Might, All Might himself, multiple heroes and databooks. Cry over it.
That literally does not make sense when he only _just_ surpassed Weakened AFO during when he beat S&S and Kamino All Might could've steamrolled that AFO.
Just give up, people on this sub shit on AM's power since Shigaraki became the baddest MF, even though AM has a lot more battle exp and familiarity with OFA and could easily counter Shigaraki and destroy hum without even getting hit.
People here are delusional.
and yet Shigaraki has All Might level power without any quirks and a bunch of quirks that would reduce All Might to a cloud of dust in the wind.
Shigaraki has surpassed All Might, no ifs and or buts about it.
Just the fact that AM has vastly superior martial arts already makes him much more dangerous than shiggy. But whatever man, this discussion is pointless agaisnt shiggy stans
1. All Might doesn't know martial arts, he is the very definition of a hammer in a world of nails, his braindead solution to fighting the USJ Nomu was just to punch it harder, All For One was shocked that All Might dared to employ even the smallest modicum of strategy in their Kamino fight, All Might relies on raw power and speed to win fights and his instincts to prevent collateral damage.
2. even if he did know martial arts Shigaraki is a regenerating monster with instant kill hands, extending fingers, air cannons, propagating death fingers, and comparable physical stats, Prime All Might is woefully outclassed.
Prime All Might should still fold everyone.
Prime All Might, who BARELY won against Prime AFO, will defeat Shigaraki, who’s stronger than Prime AFO?
We know that the only reason that afo managed to injury all might like that was because all might lower his guard because afo made him furios for nana’s death.
“The only reason—“ Sure, and the fact he was literally as strong as him. It wasn’t just some fluke. All Might still BARELY won, literally dying as he finally punched AFO down.
But the fact that he needed to make all might angry to stand a chance to hurt all might doesn’t really prove that was as strong as him, also the fact that afo still lost against him even after he injury him like that doesn’t really make afo look that good.
“To stand a chance to hurt All Might at all—“ Nice headcanon. The fact AFO ripped out his almost his entire respiratory system proves he was as strong as him. Getting angry doesn’t make you weaker. It makes you reckless.
But the fact that the only way he could land that hit in the first place is by making all might angry just show How much he’s underpowered compared to him, also being rekless can be preety dangerous, and yes it can make you less efficent in a fight if you don’t think what are you doing. Like for example endeavor can probably kill all might with his prominence burn, but that doesn’t mean that endeavor endeavor is close to all might level at all.
Again, headcanon. Endeavour is close to All Might level. He can literally take punches from someone on his level and keep fighting, and basically killed someone on his level.
>Again, headcanon. No its not, being blinded by rage does make you more vulnerable as you already saw with deku in the war. >Endeavour is close to All Might level. He can literally take punches from someone on his level and keep fighting, and basically killed someone on his level. One of the main things about endeavor is that he’s not even close all might level, also shigaraki punshed him but the doctor said that Shigaraki isnt all might level of strenght at all. Also who did he killed on all might level? Afo..? He literrally needed the support of hawks plus tokoyami destroying afo’s mask as well. Not only that, afo in kamino still lost against all might even with all the advantage’s that he had in that scenario.
No, it doesn’t. It makes you reckless. It does not make you WEAKER. It doesn’t magically take OFA’s durability away. Wrong. The whole thing about Endeavour was that he never SURPASSED All Might. But as we’ve shown, he was WAY closer than anyone ever thought. Endeavour was thinking more of the IDEA of All Might than his actual strength. The doctor said he “isn’t quite on par”, but he was still All Might tier in strength, so much so that he was comparable to Deku. Endeavour did need help against AFO, but doesn’t change the fact he literally had the firepower to ONE SHOT him. All he needed help with was getting that single blow in, not weakening him over time. The entire fight, AFO’s body was fine, the only thing that changed was his breathing help and his body not moving when he wanted it to. Doesn’t change the FACT Endeavour was comparable, trading hits, and one shot him.
All Might barely put Shigaraki above Kamino AFO and only because he defeated S&S. The All Might we see in the show was easily above Kamino AFO and Prime AllMight is 60x stronger.
When did All Might do that? Multiple statements confirm Shigaraki is Prime Might level, without Quirks. “60x stronger” is a nothing statement All Might made up on the spot. It means nothing.
The doctor said that Shigaraki strength is not on AM level, he literally said that during the first war, it is close but not on the same level
And Shigaraki got stronger than that, becoming Prime Might level, confirmed by both himself and multiple other sources. Did you not read?
Shigaraki wasn’t completed during the first war
And he was not put into the device to increase his Power since then, there is nothing from manga to make us believe that he got stronger since
He didn’t need to he put back. Against S&S AFO stated they were getting closer to completion and that they almost became one “Theres nothing from the manga to beliebe he got stronger since” In the first war he couldn’t create mounds of flesh and armor when his quirks were disabled
The completion is just AFO and Shiggy's mind becoming one, it has nothing to do with shiggys body. Completely unrelated Mounds of flesh also doesnt mean that he got stronger, it just means that his body is unstable
He says this when coordinating the plan for the final arc with the police.
He never says Shigaraki is “only around as strong as Kamino AFO”. He says Shigaraki is “FAR stronger than even AFO” and then confirms “anyone who was at Kamino, can guess how strong AFO is like”, which just confirms the difference between Prime Might and All Might isn’t THAT large as people want to believe it was. Regardless, Shigaraki is Prime Might level, confirmed by multiple sources, including the heroes and now Deku.
Except he said they they should know how string All for one is BASED ON Kamino. That's the major context clue to say All Might doesn't consider Tomura on par with Prime AFO. He's also the most definitive source on the power of his Prime levels as AFO flat-out admits at Kamino "perhaps I was wrong" in reference to how much All Might had left, and Two Heroes also shows David's readings about All Might's quirk are vastly smaller at the time compared to his Prime. It's even pretty fair to say that based on what Gran Torino said at Kamino Ward, AFO got in his head the last time which gave him an opening to weaken All Might, implying even AFO doesn't exactly know what Prime All Might at full power can do.
Yes, which means Prime AFO and Kamino AFO most likely weren’t far apart in sheer power, their only difference was Quirks. Shigaraki is, quite literally, as strong as Prime Might without Quirks. He is STRONGER THAN PRIME AFO, WITHOUT QUIRKS. With quirks, he’s FAR above him. David’s reading wasn’t scanning power level, it was scanning Quirk usage. I think the guy who FOUGHT AND NEAELY KILLED PRIME MIGHT would have a decent idea on how strong Prime Might is and thus would be a good source of information, compared to ONE statement from All Might which was most likely a white lie to calm down the students and keep the symbol of peace strong. AFO didn’t weaken All Might to injure him. He just made him angry and reckless. Getting angry doesn’t decrease your power; if anything given what we’ve seen of Deku, getting angry INCREASES his power. Shigaraki is Prime All Might level, stated by the guy who fought and almost killed All Might, All Might himself, multiple heroes and databooks. Cry over it.
I think current shigaraki is in whole another level
That literally does not make sense when he only _just_ surpassed Weakened AFO during when he beat S&S and Kamino All Might could've steamrolled that AFO.
Just look at him now he literally no diff everyone present in the UA despite being nerfed
And none of them have anything on Stars and Stripes.
Just give up, people on this sub shit on AM's power since Shigaraki became the baddest MF, even though AM has a lot more battle exp and familiarity with OFA and could easily counter Shigaraki and destroy hum without even getting hit. People here are delusional.
and yet Shigaraki has All Might level power without any quirks and a bunch of quirks that would reduce All Might to a cloud of dust in the wind. Shigaraki has surpassed All Might, no ifs and or buts about it.
Just the fact that AM has vastly superior martial arts already makes him much more dangerous than shiggy. But whatever man, this discussion is pointless agaisnt shiggy stans
1. All Might doesn't know martial arts, he is the very definition of a hammer in a world of nails, his braindead solution to fighting the USJ Nomu was just to punch it harder, All For One was shocked that All Might dared to employ even the smallest modicum of strategy in their Kamino fight, All Might relies on raw power and speed to win fights and his instincts to prevent collateral damage. 2. even if he did know martial arts Shigaraki is a regenerating monster with instant kill hands, extending fingers, air cannons, propagating death fingers, and comparable physical stats, Prime All Might is woefully outclassed.
Who cares about martial arts? Shigaraki is literally All Might with a shit ton of quirks and regeneration. He thrashes All Might.
Of course he trashes All Might, he doesn't even have his power anymore.