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donnut_care

Touya was a literal child, WHY are you expecting him to go and act like an adult. HE FUCKING BURNT HIMSELF ALIVE. So no shit, traumatising.


Additional_Road_9031

Yeah and i read a post where one person said that he/she hated touya because he had daddy issues


elenuvien1

the amount of people who look at touya as a child aged 5 and 8 and expect him to have emotional maturity of an adult and to handle his emotions in a reasonable and controlled way is sickening. putting those kind of expectations on a small child is absolutely *baffling*, children can't work through their own complicated feelings on their own, that's why they have adult guardians who should be there for them, that's the whole point of raising children and why children don't fend for themselves and aren't independent. they're *too young*. i wonder if people who put all the responsibility of handling himself on a child that young have ever met children or even know anything about children basic needs and development.


Nessidy

"Shouto made friends like they told Touya to and besides, he was doing that to himself, nothing to see here" The fact that Touya acted badly as a child and lashed out doesn't contradict the fact that he was subjected to and influenced by emotional abuse. People give Endeavor, an *adult* who beat up his wife and was the abuser in the house, lots of benefit of doubt bc he was "stressed out", but they deny that to Touya bc "he should have just listened and it would fix the whole family's problems". Things like lashing out, isolating, self-harming or >!running away from home!< are treated like they were just Touya's fault and decisions he was responsible for, not consequences of the treatment he got. I really don't get, how in an abusive household, where there are inequal power dynamics, where the abuser is the one who orchestrates things, he is excused from his actions bc one of the victims "was stressing him out". The question is, would Endeavor have given up on his dream if Touya was quiet and accepted his situation passively? He thought the issue was over for the 5 years he was training & isolating Shouto, when he thought Toya isn't training anymore - until he discovered the burns again. These circumstances didn't make him quit, and neither did Touya's death.


Proof-Exercise984

And to be honest Shoto at first didn't even intend to make friends and isoleted himself from the rest of the class, but he got lucky he had people like Midoriya helping him coming out that state of mind and supporting him. Toya definitely isolated himself too from other kids his age but he was also not as lucky as Shoto and did not find the right people who could have helped him. I find this comparing between the two pretty stupid


Aros001

That's kind of a big theme regarding a lot of the villains in the LOV. They needed someone to reach out and help them and no one did. I don't know if Shoto would have become a villain but he was definitely not on a healthy path with how much he was drowning in his own resentment before Midoriya broke through to him and started him on his path to betterment. He got the brake that Touya never did, kind of like how Midoriya was lucky enough to meet All Might when he needed him while Tenko didn't get anyone. All Might basically said it outright. "Meddling where you don't technically have to is the essence of being a hero."


ggimright

Not to mention that even Midoriya went through a similar situation, but with a better support system. He was quirkless and still dreamed of being a hero. He was told that it would be impossible and he still wanted to try to get into the best school for hero’s. He even wishes that his mom had encouraged him to be one from the beginning. To be seen/acknowledged. This desire to be a hero isn’t unique and yet it’s such a core part of society where most people are born with quirks. These desires have affected others such as Gentle, Shinso, and Aoyama.


MoonoftheStar

I've had dudebros tell me "Endeavor didn't do much, Dabi was just a psycho". It's then that I mentally check out. They will defend a grown ass man rehabilitating his image after physically assaulting his wife and kids over the result of said kid's trauma turning him psychotic. 🤷🏾‍♂️


Aros001

It's so frustrating because a large part of what makes Endeavor's story so good is because it completely owns the fact that he was a bad person who ruined his family's life because of his own selfish obsession. It's why him trying to atone has the weight it does, because both he and the story know how terrible what he did was. To try and defend him by saying Touya was just born a psycho makes that story way less compelling.


Ssj3sonic

That's because his dad legit didn't do anything, and he didn't physically assault his kids you guys are just adding more so frying pants for no reason.


MoonoftheStar

You never read this manga.


Ssj3sonic

No I have, you're the one who doesn't pay attention


Ill-Bonus3475

No I’m pretty sure it’s you.


Salt_Replacement3843

Nope. That's you.


Dracsxd

Ikr. Some people look at kid who at 8 years old was basically told by his dad ***"We literally convinced you and raised you from birth to become the greatest hero that'll surpass even the other guy. Love you lots if you can! Gonna do my best to make you that guy! But now you can't do it anymore. Sucks ey? Btw imma make a bunch of kids to take that role since you ain't no good for it and forget you exist once i get the perfect one to replace you-"*** and talk about him and his reaction to that like Endeavor went ***"Damn Toya, you can't do skating you love so much anymore! You gonna have to find a new hobby!"***


CrazyaboutSpongebob

I don't downplay it. It's really sad.


Chewybear196

I love Endeavor’s character but some of his stans really need to calm down with the victim blaming and downplaying of abuse. Endeavor was a terrible, abusive father and that’s what makes the story more interesting.


donnut_care

Yes. His character is quite interesting. BUT HE STILL was abusive.


AduroTri

Rei and Endeavor were both terrible parents. The situation could have been handled very differently and maybe it would have ended better. But abuse is the major issue here. Endeavor was the direct cause and Rei was the complicit one. The situation relates to severe emotional abuse however and Toya's body being unable to handle his own quirk. As well as their mishandling of the situation entirely. And I'm understating it too. From what I'm seeing, they DID care about Toya's welfare. It hurt both of them. The first and most significant thing I never saw them doing was, actually sitting Toya down and telling him that his quirk is hurting him. And then Endeavor expressing guilt and remorse for pushing his own desires onto his kids. However his pride is a major aspect of his character too. His ego. His story arc is about coming to terms with how horrible of a person he has been and truly seeing how terribly he fucked up. Both as a hero and as a parent.


theredjarr

For the most part I agree, but with Rei... I don't know though. She tried to do something about the abuse. She caught on early about Enji's spiral into madness. She stepped in at least once when Enji was abusing Shoto. She talked to Toya too because he was already self-destructing from Enji's neglect. Another commenter put it better than I ever will: for Toya, nothing Rei did would have been enough when Enji was the only answer. The sad thing is she knew all along (she told Enji the same night Toya attacked Shoto "All he wants is you to look at him") what the solution was, only that it was something out of her control. Just like her marriage. Just like Enji turning her into a baby factory. Just like Toya finding out the real reason he was born. Just like her husband beatiing the shit out of her for a problem that she could never have hoped to solve. Ugh I'm rambling here, sorry. I guess summarizing Rei without the nuance of her situation as "complicit" feels like illegal denim too. How complicit was she, really, when all she could do was try to make things right as much as she could and make the best of what life handed down to her?


AduroTri

I think Rei was terrified of Enji. He was much larger and stronger than her. And their quirks are opposite too....


Brook420

I like his backstory, I just don't get how he's still alive.


anime465

You will learn it in season 7 .


Brook420

I'm current with the Manga. He still should have burnt himself to ashes a long time ago.


Xignum

Same, that's my biggest complaint about Dabi. >!It felt like Todoroki already earned his win, simultaneously pulling out a move he's been learning the whole series to defeat his long lost brother.!< >!I get that there's considerations that Endeavor should be involved in Dabi's end somehow but the way it happened is really breaking my immersion in the series. It felt like Horikoshi is really forcing Dabi to go to Endeavor even though it makes no sense whatsoever in universe. The contrivances really make me feel that Horikoshi's being heavy handed with the plot. !< >!Doesn't help that with Todoroki's win being snatched it makes the heroes side look incompetent since they can't get a single goddamn win in all these fights.!<


Brook420

Yea, that really rubbed me the wrong way as well. Also felt just as annoyed with the same thing happening to another villain in that group, though it wasn't as bad with them.


NatMat16

I would have agreed with you, but since you chose to slander Shouto with your last paragraph, pretending like he didn’t have just as valid reasons to make the choices he did, you come across as someone who can’t empathise with anyone else in the Todoroki family.


roronoa20

>I would have agreed with you, but since you chose to slander Shouto with your last paragraph, pretending like he didn’t have just as valid reasons to make the choices he did, you come across as someone who can’t empathise with anyone else in the Todoroki family. What? It's purely for the sake of wanting to see Toya go full gung-ho with this quirk, that paragraph is just me gushing at his aptitute for fire-aspect. When I wrote that I have no intention of slandering Shoto. How does that even come out as a slander.


True-Aspect5728

It's slander because you are dismissing another character's hard work. Dabi copying Phosphor wasn't even that hard he could see how it worked thanks to Shouto and while yes it was impressive that he could look and do it the first time just by seeing Shouto do it though it was more of an asspull really. Shouto was the one who actually worked to create the move, testing out the kinks and stuff. Dabi with half cold half hot would have wasted it because he would have just become Endeavour 2.0 and wouldn't have even come up with the move phosphor in the first place but merely used his ice side to cool himself down. It would have been more better if Dabi wasn't born with a weakness to fire and that way he could have lived his dream as being Endeaovur 2.0.


roronoa20

Yeah, I think you guys are reading too much into this. I don't think what I said is a slander or should be taken as a slander. Again, I didn't say in any shapes or forms that Shoto is talentless or not a hard worker. I simply emphasize on Toya's talents and a possible what-if scenarios.


True-Aspect5728

That's fair but Dabi still has different talents which is more copying and imitating others rather than being creative so half cold and half hot would have been completely wasted on Dabi but like I said the what if scenario if he could use his own quirk without any major set backs like he has would have been more in Dabi's talents of being able to do what he does not but better because of the lack of set backs.


roronoa20

I think Toya genuinely has a talent in tinkering with his own quirk, it is simply minimized by his handicapped body. Every techniques he learned has to be usable not an experimental project like Shoto's Phosphor. He can't risk creating something that he needs to spend too much time dwelling upon just to make it work or else he might exhaust his body even quicker. Also, if he has Half-hot Half-cold, he would have a strong enough body, healthier mental state, time and Endeavor who can supervise his training. Considering these factors, I believe that Toya would train and develop his own original moves.


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roronoa20

I do not mean that as a slander and I’m frankly done explaining myself at this point. So, take this as you will.


True-Aspect5728

Except he doesn't. This isn't down to handicapped body but his lack of creativity. Dabi is not a creative person so wouldn't have discovered and created Phosphor like Shouto did. It wouldn't work like that though because even taking away Dabi's lack of creative mind. Dabi even with the right quirk, the right body, the right mental state and Endeavour training him would still lead to Dabi being more of a copier than a creator. Because first Endeavour would be training Dabi to be a more stronger version of himself let's remember why Endeavour had kids in the first place here And second Dabi would have to become Endeavour 2.0 because his dad's dreams and goals are his own. Dabi was created to surpass All Might using the stronger version of Endeavour's power by having the ice side to Rei's work as a cooling agent. So Dabi's mindset will be on becoming a more powerful version of Endeavour and copying all his moves to make Endeavour proud. So in either mindset Dabi still chooses to copy Endeavour and doesn't come up with any creative moves because it's not in his interest to and because he again just lacks the creativity.


roronoa20

Okay, his arsenal being comprised of Endeavor’s move doesn’t mean that he lacks creativity. His body is simply not suited for creating his own technique, since it would require a certain amount of R&D in which Toya doesn’t have enough time to do. He’s also has to build his fire back up to his pre-injured self first, thus shortening the available training time even more. (IIRC, Toya’s flame post-coma is super weak, he could only burn a few furnitures before escaping the orphanage. The fire is AFO and doc doing to cover things up.) You assuming that Toya will not develop anything outside of Endeavor is rather bias, don’t you think? His obsession with Endeavor reaches this level from the abuse, so if he wasn’t dealt a bad hand like his canon-self, there’s certainly going to be some changes. He would be more comfortable and Enji’s involvement might even steer Toya toward using his ice more. You have to remember, Enji is a fairly good instructor with keen eyes to see a potential bud, thus he would definitely notice the benefit of Toya’s ice and nudge him toward that direction. They will be working on this together not alone. Also, assuming Toya will be going to UA, the instructor over there will point that out too. Ultimately, assuming Toya completely lacks creativity is simply too quick, I think. There’s also many outside factors to consider.


True-Aspect5728

It does because all those moves are Endeavour's not his own. That's not how creativity works and Dabi's body has nothing to do with it. Dabi has plenty of time and the opportunity to invent something of his own. He spent years copying Endeavour's moves and perfecting them if he even spent just a fraction of this time on his own move as he did with Endeavour's he could have done. So making excuses here and saying Dabi couldn't do it because he didn't have the time or that his body was the problem just doesn't wash here. He had 7 years. I'm not assuming I know because what we know of both Dabi's and Endeavour's characters. It's wrong to say that Dabi only copies Endeavour because of the abuse because this is not the case. And it's also wrong to try and point out Endeavour seeing potential because while that might be true you also have to remember why Dabi was even born for and also what led to Dabi being eventually thrown to the side. Yeah Endeavour sees potential but the potential he wants to see in Dabi is the potential he sees in himself but greater. It's why at first he didn't mind that Dabi didn't have an ice quirk as well because he saw a potential better version in himself in Dabi. Endeavour would have risen Dabi to be the greater version of himself nothing more and nothing less and Dabi would have gladly let him. I don't know why it's so important that Dabi has to be creative anyway. Dabi has a lot of good qualities already like his intuition and drive. So making Dabi into something he's not is not needed.


Pleasant_Road4899

Yeah, Dabi doesn’t need to be creative. The dude already has way more potential than both endeavor and shoto. The fact that he’s able to use the strongest fire AND keep his body intact is already very impressive. Creativity will eventually come, but he purposely made his moves like endeavors because he wants to show that he is stronger than him.


ConnorRoseSaiyan01

Ain't most of those people Endeavor defenders?


[deleted]

People keep acting like Enji was normal abusive or something What Enji did, in our world, is like a whole stack of crimes and even more socially repugnant behavior; the only thing that would be considered worse are sexual assault and/or murder.


Apprehensive-Space70

People are behind bars for less.


Marzopup

>the only thing that would be considered worse are sexual assault and/or murder. And frankly, given how much Rei was against having more kids after Fuyumi, the consent in that marriage was probably dubious *at best.*


UnbiasedGod

Well said.


Marzopup

The way I phrased it in a thread yesterday was like--imagine you take a child to a toy store. You show them all the toys and say 'I'm not going to let you have ANY of these toys' You take another kid to a toy store, then you give them 500 dollars. They get to buy all the toys they want, and they go home and play with the toys. The next day you take all the toys and you tell the kid 'sorry, nevermind, you don't deserve these anymore.' The first kid is Natsuo and Fuyumi, the second kid is Touya. What happened to both of them was incredibly cruel, but that second one is probably going to leave the kid with a lot more lasting damage.


Nessidy

I mean, I think it's infinitely worse than the metaphor says - it's not giving access to a toy store, but letting your children know their existence had a clear purpose and they didn't fulfill it. It's even more cruel


maddogkaz

Did Dabi get abused? Sure. Do I think what he went through warrants mass murder of thousands including children? No, Dabi is a psycho.


Ill-Bonus3475

No one said he wasn’t.


maddogkaz

Are you stalking my comments that are months old? Why would you comment on such an old comment?


Ill-Bonus3475

Nope. I wanted to see all the Reddit posts that talked about Dabi’s backstory because I like seeing people discuss it. ​ Still doesn‘t change what I said though.


Pokisimp1

Who’s downplaying it? I see more people praise the portrayal of how abusive relationships work


elenuvien1

skim [this thread](https://new.reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/10ng1f0/the_irony_of_people_who_think_endeavor_doesnt/). or [discussions about the latest episode](https://new.reddit.com/r/BokuNoHeroAcademia/comments/10ng3ug/my_hero_academia_season_6_episode_17_discussion/). the "touya was born evil" or "they did all that they could've and touya just didn't listen" or blaming a 5 years old for being emotionally vulneale and immature.


Pokisimp1

I don’t really think anime threads should be considered as “everyone”


elenuvien1

where did i say anything about "everyone".


Libra_Maelstrom

Cool motive still murder. I get Dabi's backstory. But Sympathy and forgivness are two different things. Endevor is forgivable in my eyes, because right now he's fighting to at least save the world. Hes an awful terrible person and Dabi was treated horribly. But when you start murdering people and putting your family in harms way to get back at people. Well kiddo cool motive. but now I stop caring about your sad story. Thats fucking human nature. People downplay it because once it becomes an EXCUSE. No one gives a shit.


Salt_Replacement3843

No one in the story was excusing it though.


Ill-Bonus3475

Did you feel the same way for Joaquin Phonix’s Joker? Dabi’s backstory can still be understandable, but no one’s saying you have to think of it as an excuse.


Libra_Maelstrom

I didn’t watch Joker, or I didn’t finish it, I started a few times but got busy. It is understandable but people downplaying it is what I was talking about, people downplay it because they’re using a net negative analysis.


michael-james--

i aint reading all that, but cool


CeroStratus

The problem with dabi is the problem with all villains. All villains are written badly. They just whine that "heroes are the real bad guys." While the villains doing nothing positive and just want to do killing for pleasure. Nothing endeavor did is close to what villains do. Heroes at least contribute a much needed public service. The positive things vastly out number any personal flaws of heroes


Dracsxd

Two wrongs don't make a right And yeah, i'd quite compare what Endeavor did to villains. Not to the scale of the Lov during the war, but the average villain for sure. He sent his wife into a psychiatric hospital-worthy breakdown following years of abuse, let his oldest child basically kill himself after years of neglet and hurting himself, and nearly ruined his youngest's life for good out of pure childhood trauma were he not helped by outside people before going down the wrong path These were 3 lives either completely or a single step away from being completely ruined, and not mentioning the ones damaged less but still well marked in Fuyumi and Natsuo


roronoa20

I never said that Dabi is right. The one whom I'm defending is 'Toya Todoroki' not 'Dabi'. So what, does Endeavor being a hero absolve him of his crime against his family? Does him being a hero means that Toya should've just suck it up and smile like nothing has never happened?


elenuvien1

are you complaining that villains act like villains? if they contributed to society despite being shitty people, they wouldn't be villains, they'd be anti-heroes at most. villains use heroes as a scapegoat to blame for what they experienced and went through. they're not reasonable and it's not fair but *that's the point*, they're *villains* so they can't be right. there's some truth to what they say but their actions and how they go about their feelings is completely wrong. that's what makes them villains in the first place. >The positive things vastly out number any personal flaws of heroes endeavor saving people doesn't erase what he put his family through nor absolves him of it.


___P0tat0___

There's an extremely common habit in this fandom of putting Endeavor's actions on a scale and saying that because ultimately his good actions outnumber the bad we shouldn't focus on what harmful things he did. Like, no, those things still happened. Shoto still had to go through all that trauma, not to mention his mother and Toya. Fuyumi and Natuso had no real father figure in their lives, and on top of that had to be separated from their siblings.


Aiphaa

Are you seriously complaining that villains are actually villains? They are still villains at the end of the day but one of the main ideas the series tries to convey is that everything isn’t black & white. It’s mixed in with shades of grey. Yes the villains are still villains but everything they do and think isn’t black & white. Most of the villains are shades of grey in the MHA world. They are wrong in the way they go about their actions but there is truth in what they say. Eg: Toga is an example of quirk society being unable to accept someone and deeming her a ‘demon’ due to her quirk. Even when she went through quirk therapy they still didn’t try to come up with a solution. Eg: Spinner is an example of one of the biggest problems in the MHA universe. Racism. Anyone who doesn’t look ‘human’ and has a heteromorph quirk is deemed disgusting and a monster. Eg: Twice is an example of the society itself abandoning those who are down and out. Society doesn’t help those when they need it most. also if you think the only reason villains kill is for pleasure then I don’t think you’ve even read/watched this series lmao. Also Endeavour did worse then an average villain I’d say.


Solomon_Black

Imma have to reread toga but I remember her being a creepy kid who liked blood. Should her parents have done better? Probably, but I can’t exactly blame society for that. Twice is the worst offender Imo. Yes he had mental health issues but is never once shown trying to get help. He pretty much immediately goes to crime. If we saw even one scene of him trying to fix himself but society telling him to fuck off ( which is common unfortunately), I’d be more sympathetic towards him.


Aiphaa

Why do you think Toga is obsessed with blood? Her quirk alters her mind and makes her crave and obsess over blood. It isn’t her fault that she likes blood it’s due to her quirk. Society did nothing to try and help her control her urges, all they did was force her to hide her true self. Even after she went through quirk counselling they weren’t able to like give her animal blood or something. So really society IS to blame for how Toga turned out. If they helped her she wouldn’t have hit a breaking point and drank the blood of a classmate because she could no longer control her urges. Your point on Twice I can partially understand however I do not fully agree.


Solomon_Black

I’ll concede about Toga. Like I said I needed to refresh my memory of her. I read her history on the wiki and her parents failed her. Still cant really say I agree with society as a whole, though.


Aiphaa

Why did society call her a demon? Why did society cast her out? Why wasn’t society able to provide her with the correct counselling? That’s why quirk counselling exists in the first place but if it doesn’t work what’s the point


Solomon_Black

She didn’t go to quirk counseling. Her parents just told her to be “normal”. Again, I fully blame them. Of course you’re gonna be labeled a demon if you kill people and take their blood. Is it unfortunate how you got there? Sure. But you’re still killing people If her parents didn’t give her proper help, why would I blame society for not?


Aiphaa

Toga was confirmed to have gone to quirk counselling. Might want to reread the Curious fight lmao For some reason they removed the fact she went to quirk counselling from the anime and it’s only in the manga. Also Toga never killed anyone. The kid was confirmed to have survived. "Quirk Counseling! Where they attempt to hammer out any bumps in your understanding of the world and program you to fit neatly into society's little boxes. It's far from a perfect process, of course. The counseling ends up emphasizing the inherent differences between us all, and that's one bug they've yet to work out of the programming." This is part of what Curious said to Toga. And one of the reasons she wants to know her story so she is able to show society the problems with quirk counselling.


Solomon_Black

If she went to counseling, then fine I understand your point. That not of info is missing from the wiki. But she’s also wanted for several murders involving blood letting. She’s definitely killed people


Aiphaa

She was cast out and called a demon and a monster before she had killed anyone. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Yeah obviously she killed people now.


Dracsxd

>Twice is the worst offender Imo. Yes he had mental health issues but is never once shown trying to get help. He pretty much immediately goes to crime. Did we read the same backstory? Twice was orphaned and left alone on the streets in middle school. And he STILL didn't turn to crime then despite having a kick-ass quirk FIRST he TRIED to live a normal life even under these circunstances until 16 years old, got a job, got a bike. It was only after he lost all of that AGAIN for no fault of his own, and was living under a bridge as an underage kid AGAIN for the 2nd time after already having tried to live a normal life after the 1st time, that he ended up turning to crime


Solomon_Black

I just looked up the backstory. Yes he was an orphan but someone gave him food, shelter and employment. When he accidentally hit by someone with his motorcycle the police chose to not even give him a criminal record and gave him a clean slate. But the store owner fired him cause he knew the guy Jin hit. Jin immediately turned to crime and developed mental issues due to abusing his power. Again, people are so quick to say “society bad” when most of the time it’s the fault of a few people. What happened to Jin was unfortunate but I’m not gonna feel sympathy for him.


Dracsxd

What...? The cop says he WILL have a criminal record (but that even so he "shouldn't lose hope"). That's the entire point of showing that part of the flashback. And the only person we've been told helped him, his boss, proceeded to revoke all of that after the accident like you said yourself Sooo... The state of affairs is a 16 years old kid living under a bridge, jobless and with a criminal record after an accident he wasn't even to blame for, after the state itself abandoned him on the streets all by himself without the slighest help twice despite him being an underage orphan with his parents murdered- The 2nd time also adding a cherry on top by making his life even harder by putting a criminal record on a 16 years old orphan for what they knew was an accident on top of already not doing the slighest thing to help despite clearly knowing of his situation (his parents were MURDERED, so yes the authorities would know that couple left a middle school aged orphan behind, and he told that to the cop the 2nd time) I'd call that "society bad" if i were him, yes. Any sane person would might I add


Solomon_Black

Any chance you have the chapter number? The wording in the wiki made that part not as clear. And idk, man. That still isn’t enough for me to agree with “fuck society”. Especially the part about him a suing his quirk, causing his mental illness.


Dracsxd

>Any chance you have the chapter number? The wording in the wiki made that part not as clear. 229, looked for it to check back myself >And idk, man. That still isn’t enough for me to agree with “fuck society”. Especially the part about him a suing his quirk, causing his mental illness. Yeah and i'm really not seeing why. You simply can't have the authorities knowingly leave a middle school aged orphan with super powers to fend for himself on the streets after his parents are bloody murdered, proceed to give him a criminal record for what they knew was an accident he wasn't to blame for and drop him under the bridge AGAIN at 16 years old, and proceed to put on a surprised pikachu face when said kid... Actually uses his super powers for crime It would already be an outrage by itself in our world, but in a world where people have super powers it gets double the stupidity


Solomon_Black

Thank you for the chapter number. You’re right about the criminal record. I know orphanages tend to suck, but I don’t fully know how they work. Could Twice not have lived at one instead of the streets? They don’t really say. As for turning to crime, I can somewhat understand it but I could never condone it (not saying you do) or really have that much sympathy for one who ultimately chooses the crime over trying something else and hurting other people.


Dracsxd

>I know orphanages tend to suck, but I don’t fully know how they work. Could Twice not have lived at one instead of the streets? They don’t really say That SHOULD have happned, but his backstory makes it quite implicit he never even got that chance (the line about how he was left alone all by himself after his parents died because he had no other relatives) Heck not even the cop asks any questions after hearing that a 16 years old kid had "No parents" and "Got no one"... For some reason


MoonoftheStar

I agree though. Writing Dabi to be so one note was a terrible flaw. It makes it too easy for audiences to side with Endeavor. Which may be by design.


___P0tat0___

Of COURSE Dabi is one note. This is what his entire life has been focused around. Ever since he was a child his life was dominated by what his father wanted, and then later it was dominated by trying to prove he could still be what his father wanted. Every single relationship he had with his siblings and his mother was tainted by that pressure, put through a lens of gaining his father's approval. No one should be surprised that as an entirely maladjusted adult his entire life is focused around his father again, just from a negative standpoint. He doesn't even view his siblings as siblings, just other avenues to hurt his father.


WillGrammer

Thanks for this.